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Culture

The Ernie Kovacs of the Avant Garde

Jesse Walker | 12.31.2010 4:50 PM

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Since I invoked John Cage in my column yesterday, I thought I'd celebrate New Year's Eve with this wonderfully odd TV moment from 1960, in which the experimental composer appeared on I've Got a Secret:

You know what makes America great? The fact that this happened on a game show.

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Jesse Walker is books editor at Reason and the author of Rebels on the Air and The United States of Paranoia.

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  1. Terry Michael   15 years ago

    Jesse, the dispute between two unions about who had the right to plug in the five radios was precious! Despite the encroachments of various central authorities on our lives today, the restraints on free markets and free minds 50 years ago, when I watched I've Got a Secret as a 13-year-old, were mind boggling. Thanks for that trip down memory lane. And I would suggest another I've Got a Secret clip, from 1965, with Ray Kurzweil:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Neivqp2K4

    1. Fatty Bolger   15 years ago

      I've experienced a similar "union jurisdiction" problem trying to get a booth set up for a trade show in Vegas. Some things haven't changed all that much.

      1. Sam Grove   15 years ago

        How much are the electricians charging to plug in your extension cord at the Vegas convention center these days?

        The whole enterprise is affected by union restrictions, hence the development of collapsible displays.

  2. Max   15 years ago

    Thanks, Jesse, for the final idiocy of 2010. You're not posting anything else, are you? Happy New year!

    1. Warty   15 years ago

      Edward, what's your new year's resolution? It's to finally succeed at autobukkakke, isn't it?

      1. Jeffersonian   15 years ago

        I doubt that, Warty. Getting it from the local chapter of the Vice Lords is just too delicious for Maxie to turn inward.

        1. Furthermore   15 years ago

          We bring the year to close on a classy note.

    2. EJM   15 years ago

      Would Professor Price be more to your liking?

    3. Fatty Bolger   15 years ago

      Cheer up, Max. Maybe this is the year your balls finally drop.

  3. Ayn Rand   15 years ago

    That's immoral!

    1. Rather   15 years ago

      Immorality? Sins are forgiven when you read my newest post. Happy New Year you little bastard.

    2. Rather   15 years ago

      Immorality? Sins are forgiven when you read my newest post. Happy New Year you little bastard.

      1. heller   15 years ago

        Your begging and attention seeking is delightfully pathetic. When are you going to grow up?

  4. dbcooper   15 years ago

    John Cale was on that show too:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHIqMmtS-0

  5. not this unknown blogger   15 years ago

    Wolk is also seeking the identities of these unknown bloggers who have charged him with child molestation and bestiality.

    http://volokh.com/2010/12/31/l.....f-banking-"it-is-of-stunning-coincidence"/

  6. Ken Shultz   15 years ago

    I've heard him described as an anarchist...

    I heard that a performance of his music once started with an otherwise empty stage except for a gong in the middle of it. His piece was written so that it couldn't begin until someone from the audience became so fed up with waiting for the performance to start, the he or she would finally walk up onto the stage and strike the gong.

    1. Jerry   15 years ago

      A perfect place for the CIA to recruit some assassins!

  7. todd.fletcher@gmail.com   15 years ago

    The other great thing about America is that a big fat musical ZERO like Cage could become famous.

    Wait, did I say that was good thing?

    1. Furthermore   15 years ago

      He isn't famous. Never was. Infamous, perhaps.

  8. BlueBook   15 years ago

    This (and the 4'33" piece on the other article) are really... good. Nice find!

  9. cmace   15 years ago

    SO is there anyone (other than me)old enough to remember this show? Or the host?

    (Garry Moore)

    1. The Bearded Hobbit   15 years ago

      I remember both.

      Happy 57th birthday to me (Dec 31).

      ... Hobbit

      1. Libberabble   15 years ago

        Kill the Boomer! It's all your fault!

      2. Rather   15 years ago

        Is Viagra covered under Medicare? Happy Birthday sweetheart.;-)

  10. crazyfish   15 years ago

    I don't understand why the audience were cracking up. The music was ok. If you imagine a murderer entering a house, with the owner busy in the kitchen then the music made sense. It seemed to me that Cage went to extremes to get the sound he wanted. Today we use a noise generator.

  11. Warty   15 years ago

    Let's hear your stupid new year's resolutions. Mine is not to get Reason sued by Arthur Allan Wolk this year.

    1. A.A.W.   15 years ago

      Too late.

      Just "kidding." Happy New Year, Reasonoids!

  12. Ken Shultz   15 years ago

    Mine is to decry the profoundly stupid policies of the Obama Administration--without necessarily implicating the personal ignorance of Barack Obama.

    So, before that predilection of mine turns into a pumpkin in a couple of hours here? Your garden variety fast food restaurant manager knows more about the economy than he does. Barack Obama really is an ignoramus.

  13. Rather   15 years ago

    Happy New Year.
    Mine is to finish my novel or just move to a cabin in the woods to type "redrum, redrum" repeatedly but with spelling errors.

    1. Hugh Akston   15 years ago

      I think we all look forward to you finishing your novel, so that you can spend your time endlessly whoring that instead of your blog.

      1. Rather   15 years ago

        What's wrong with whoring? We can't all be a "versatile and talented writer with a focus on brevity, clarity, and consistency... committed to better communications whether I am writing it from scratch or just polishing your existing material."

        1. the right does it too   15 years ago

          I just love how bloggers include "About Me" sections...shouldn't your writing tell us about you? If not, why should we bother to read your screeds?

  14. Rather   15 years ago

    I changed my mind, my New Year's resolution is to get over the fact that my parents sexually exploited me, leading to a life of compulsive attention seeking. I know you loved me Dad I don't need your approval anymore!

  15. Rather   15 years ago

    me

  16. Rather   15 years ago

    Dammit, just like last year (still above 400 pounds), I've failed my New Year's resolution.

    LOVE ME DADDY!

  17. Rather   15 years ago

    Heller if you're going to spoof me, use my blog link

    1. Rather   15 years ago

      Heller if you're going to spoof me, use my blog link

      1. Rather   15 years ago

        Heller if you're going to spoof me, use my blog link

        1. Rather   15 years ago

          Heller if you're going to spoof me, use my blog link

          1. Rather   15 years ago

            Heller if you're going to spoof me, use my blog link

            1. Rather   15 years ago

              Heller if you're going to spoof me, use my blog link

  18. gao xia en   15 years ago

    Similar to 2,000 Light Years from Home intro.

  19. P Brooks   15 years ago

    Dude, the date- it's, like, all ones!

    Whoaaa..

  20. Phil   15 years ago

    Does anyone out there remember the great Ernie Kovacs (dorf)?

  21. Almanian   15 years ago

    I resolve to go for another motorcycle ride today, since it's still above freezing. Went out yesterday - face froze, the rest was fine. Biking is good for the soul. Biking in Michigan in Jan/Feb/Mar is...dicy.

    Keep the shiny side up. Merry New Year!

  22. malletdiction   15 years ago

    Cage was important not because he was a great composer of experimental music (he was hit and miss, although that may be an inevitable consequence of being experimental); he was, rather, important because he popularized the idea that it was okay to be experimental with music. That work (then) allows folks like me who make experimental music more likely to find an audience (today).

    Blatant self-promo: noisy, rhythm driven instrumental drones for those who like that sort of thing.

    http://aboombong.bandcamp.com/

    1. Clueless in Seattle   15 years ago

      As Lisa Simpson said, "You have to listen to the notes he doesn't play."

  23. John C. Randolph   15 years ago

    John Cage was truly the Jackson Pollack of music. Everything he ever did was utter crap.

    -jcr

    1. Syd Henderson   15 years ago

      Not into his innovative use of radios as percussion?

  24. WasabiPeas   15 years ago

    Wasn't Ernie Kovacs the Ernie Kovacs of the Avant Garde, or am I missing the humor of the title?

  25. Jocon307   15 years ago

    Wow, am I happy I stopped in at this blog and saw this!

    What a great find from the vaults. This is the only John Cage piece I've ever seen and while he seems like a very nice man I can say I'm all filled up now with John Cage.

    And the bit with the unions messing up his performance, well that is just the cherry on top!

    50 years of cr*p America, when will it end?

  26. Choy   15 years ago

    And here I was expecting some dancing in a unisex bathroom. Oh well, doomed to disappointment.

  27. francesca   15 years ago

    Not so surprising that John Cage appeared on the show. During this period, Buffalo, New York -- a working class city -- was a center of avant garde music, with Lukas Foss as conductor. One of the highlights of a new music festival there was a 15-minute symphony of metronomes, another was Cage's symphony where a pianist banged on the piano with a hammer.

    New music was a serious endeavor there.

  28. bill   15 years ago

    i saw little fockers last night and they had a similar dispute aout backing up a truck

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