Barbara Boxer Against Chinese People Having Jobs
Here's the California Senator's latest campaign ad, which makes the nuanced argument that CEOs should be disqualified from higher office if their companies open factories overseas.
Boxer, on the other hand, has skillfully averted giving jobs to icky Chinese and Indian people by working on Capitol Hill for the last 28 years. Apparently Democrats think the best way to keep the Golden State blue is by accusing Republicans of employing foreigners.
Link via the Twitter feed of Matthew Yglesias.
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Making everyday household goods more expensive for everyone is exactly what an economy needs during a recession. Good thing we have well educated womyn like Boxer running things during these troubling times.
Man, fuck the working Chinese and their delicious food.
CEOs should be disqualified from higher office if their companies open factories overseas
I believe the technical term is "shipping" jobs overseas, as in big containers with air-holes punched in the tops for the unfortunate job-holders who have been "shipped."
That really goes with "30,000 workers gone"
I don't know if you've ever stood at the Golden Gate watching the container ships heading out, but the shallow draft of those huge ships indicate that jobs don't weigh much.
Should politicians be disqualified from office if they enact policies which cause jobs to be moved overseas?
Dash not know.
We'll also accept "exporting", which is the opposite of folks seeking jobs here which is called "importing".
In what sort of mind-fuck of a universe do we have a choice between Boxer and Fiorina?
It's that alternate universe known as "California".
Which is why the rest of us don't live there.
Well, it's one of the many reasons.
I'll trade you either of them for Chuck "Commercials loud hurt ears!" Schumer.
Conservatives are supposed to be for giving jobs to foreigners? Fair enough . . . Dems are clearly for taking jobs away from EVERYBODY.
I just had a Q&A session with one of my colleagues who is working on contracts to burn tires as fuel on a cement kiln (since a kiln burns stuff ar 2000+ Deg F, it incinerates anything very cleanly.) You CANNOT fathom the level of RED TAPE one has to go through, so much so even the regulators don't know jack-shit how to interpret the code or what procedure to follow.
Welcome to the U.S.S.A.
Well, we wouldn't want science and facts to get in the way of clueless bureaucrats and moral do-gooders.
Who want's to bet Boxer has an HP product in her office.
I'd sure as hell be trying to find out if she did.
Is this the same Barbara Boxer who pays day worker illegal to participate in her rallies?
Sorry, Matt. A senator's job isn't to be a good "global citizen," maximizing the welfare of the Red Chinese factory proletariat in the name of world-wide "economic efficiency." A senator's job is to look out for America and Americans first, second and last.
This is fair game. You can bet the Chinese government are looking out for their own, with nary any regard for the "larger good" of the "global marketplace."
If you're going to keep on playing the capital-L Libertarian game of looking for excuses to vote Republican and sell out the gamut of civil liberties in the name of the almighty tax cut for the rich, you're gonna have to do better than this.
Im 12 and what is this
A senator's job is to look out for America and Americans their state's voters first, second and last.
That's all they need to get reelected. And not even all of them, just a majority.
You dont even need a majority! people under 18 can't vote and only 60% of possibke voters vote. Take out the incarcerated and other adults who can't vote and you only need maybe 15-20% of the popluation to win many elections.
Danny, if you hadn't tossed in the useless wealth-envy bit at the end, your post might have made some lick of sense.
Keeping the prices of products low and other efficiency measures helps all Americans.
How is protecting domestic producers from foreign competition at the expense of domestic consumers who will have to pay more for the products they buy in the "national interest"?
The economic interests of producers is of no more inational mportance than are those of consumers.
After all, a job is a voluntary contractual arrangement betwee two parties. It is not something that one "owns" as if there were some sort of property right involved.
The economic interests of producers is of no more national importance than are those of consumers.
If anything, its the otherway around. Can't sell anything to people who can't buy.
In reality though, it's a constant balancing act we refer to as "market forces."
Then it's a good thing Fiorina wasn't a senator when she worked for HP isn't it? I mean, if she was some kind of charity organizer for America's workforce, I'd say she wasn't doing her job, but looking out for the interests of her company was specifically what her job was. I wonder if Boxer would be criticizing her for being a bad leader if she was fired from HP...
I didn't know that not being fired from a job was a civil liberty...
Try being a libertarian the next time you criticize someone for not being libertarian enough.
Excuse me?
First, of all, Fiorina was CEO of a company when she employed people in another country. As CEO, her job is to maximize her company's profits and competitiveness so that it stays in business. Otherwise, EVERYBODY at her company will lose their jobs! Get it, Einstein?
Secondly, a Senator's job isn't to "look out for America and Americans first, second and last." A Senator's job is to follow the Constitution which means respecting and protecting individual liberties. This means respecting the right of Americans to do business with whomever they please - even those "evil foreigners." More loosely, that means staying the fuck out of people's business! Get it, Einstein?
Thirdly, do you have an f'in clue how, on a practical level, government meddling fucks up the economy? You do realize that foreign companies employ people here, don't you? You do realize that it's a two way street, don't you?
Fourth, how do you define the "rich" and what gives you or the government the f'ing right to steal money from anybody just because you think they're "rich?" Do you have any f'ing clue how f'd up things become when you give the government such unlimited power to treat people unequally??
You, sir, are in serious need of a brain transplant.
"...her job is to maximize her company's profits..."
I agree. There is a place for a fox, but it is not the henhouse. She should stay at HP and keep feathering her own nest and that of her corporate cronies, and leave Washington to people who care about America.
"...do you have an f'in clue how, on a practical level, government meddling fucks up the economy?"
Tell it to the Chinese, Free-Trade-Boy. They'll laugh in your sweaty, doughy, anger-blotched face.
"...what gives you or the government the f'ing right to steal money..."
The Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, to be precise.
Take a Xanax and get a grip, Mr. Outrage.
Nativist troll is nativist.
Wow.
So a CEO who does his/her job faithfully doesn't care about America??? WTF??
So, economic meddling by foreign countries justifies meddling by our goverment?? WTF?? Ever heard of a trade war??
The 16th Amendment gives the government the right to steal?? WTF?? There's a legitimate argument that the Constitution DOES not allow the government to levy income taxes at varying rates. This arguably violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment and theoretically violates the spirit of the Constitution. When the government is allowed to use it's taxing authority in a discriminatory fashion, economic liberty (and ultimately all liberty) becomes meaningless.
You are a hot, hot mess.
A "legitimate argument" against progressive income taxation under Amendment 16? Based on Equal Protection?
You may be the most unserious person on these message boards, and THAT is really saying something.
I think each sentence of the Constitution should just be numbered in similar fashion as the Bible.
The courts just string together parts of it out of context (see Roe V Wade) no different than many preachers do with the Bible to support their opinion, anyways.
So, you come spouting statist bullshit - and I'm a hot hot mess?
F'ing hilarious.
You, sir, are at least good for a laugh.
Please present me with evidence that a discriminatory, er "progressive," income tax scheme is expressly allowed by the Constitution and that it is somehow sensible to allow the government such unlimited taxation power.
Stop indulging this person.
Danny, isn't Boxer one of the shrillest warmers in the senate? Exactly how the fuck is Cap-N-Trade good for the United States or California?
You sir, are an idiot.
feathering her own nest and that of her corporate cronies, and leave Washington to people who care about America.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Yeah, absolutely no crony capitalism in Washington right now.
Thirdly, do you have an f'in clue how, on a practical level, government meddling fucks up the economy?
How doesn't it fuck up the economy?
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I daily curse Henry Ford for the company's European, Australian, and South American subsidiaries.
Government Motors is expanding in China, Barbie. Since congess has oversight responsibilities for the executive branch and the government is the majority shareholder in GM, what have you been doing about that?
J sub D fails his joke set up.
Opening a new plant in Mexico.
If you're going to keep on playing the capital-L Libertarian game of looking for excuses to vote Republican and sell out the gamut of civil liberties in the name of the almighty tax cut for the rich, you're gonna have to do better than this.
Presumably, I'll have to do better than this, too.
I'm waiting for the price of the used ones to drop below $0.01, Matt.
Zzzzzzzzzzz.....
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.
Boxer is going to win! That must feel like getting fucked up the ass with a broomstick to you right-wing dimwits. That makes me very happy.
I'm sure you are quite familiar with the feeling.
My Max loves being fucked with a strap-on. Trust me, I'm good at it.
"The behavior by these commenters is threatening our ability to keep comments enabled at Hit & Run."
Fuck off, you don't know shit.
Also, I couldn't give a shit who wins or who loses, both candidates suck your syphilitic scrotum. But keep living in fantasy land Max.
Yo "heller," why do you respond to "Max"?
Because its easier to point out a fuckhead than to ignore him.
Even I'm sensing "parody" here.
No you're not, you dumb fuck. You're sensing somebody who has no good retort but decises to try anyway.
Just like I decises not to post on this websight again, earlier this year!
Bitchera Boxhole is going to be gutted alive. That must be a very familiar sensation to you leftard fag-shits. That makes me mildly amused.
one of my colleagues who is working on contracts to burn tires as fuel on a cement kiln (since a kiln burns stuff ar 2000+ Deg F, it incinerates anything very cleanly.) You CANNOT fathom the level of RED TAPE one has to go through, so much so even the regulators don't know jack-shit how to interpret the code or what procedure to follow.
A Holcim (I believe) cement plant west of Bozeman tried to do this, and the weeping and wailing from Concerned Parents and "environmentalists" was so intense they decided to just shut the fucking plant down, altogether.
Luddite hysteria 1, Evul KKKorporashunz 0
Yay!
A senator's job is to look out for America and Americans discharge their Constitutional duties first, second and last.
Once they start doing that, we can talk about how they go about it.
Uh, yeah, let's try to keep the unintentional innuendos to a minimum, all right?
Give Boxer some credit. She's kept a lot of lobbyists employed over the years.
That's why she ought to be shit-canned. Lobbyists deserve to be reduced to crack whores, as do all left-wingers, and the Glenn Greenwald/Andrew Sullivan/Pat Buchanan types.
You gotta admit... it's a good commercial. lol
The Democratic position is that we should love and accept all foreigners, but if those spics and slants dare take our white man jobs, they will be targeted for extermination.
Now get up there and vote for your enlightened "mongrel" leader who realizes everyone should be judged by the color of his skin rather than the content of his character, niggerfaggots!
Saying anything disparaging about any Democratic Party female is based solely in hatred of women. Period.
Of course, it's okay when WE do it...
So Matt, do you think it would have been a good thing if Boxer had been responsible for outsourcing 30,000 US jobs also during her ten-year in Congress?
So a senator and the CEO of HP are supposed to be doing the same thing?
On the whole, I'm of the opinion that anything that reduces more Commiecrats to crack whoredom is a good thing. In California, that's what nearly every one of those folks losing their jobs would be... if their jobs really were being shipped out. In fact, setting up a company overseas does not automatically mean anything for jobs over here, contrary to the bullshit in that bitch's ad.
Boxer is the one who's costing California all the jobs with her eco-fascism and well-nigh Stalinist hatred for the private sector, and she ought to be fired. At the same time, if the Californicators insist on keeping that Commie bitch in office, they deserve every bit of the misery she'll bring them. Some politicians and their constituents, it seems, were born to be mutual punishments.