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Reason Writers Around Town: Shikha Dalmia on American Toleration and the Ground-Zero "Mosque"

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It is painfully obvious that opposition to the Cordoba House, notes Reason Foundation Senior Analyst Shikha Dalmia, is motivated less by a desire to protect the memory of 9/11 victims and more by a knee-jerk suspicion of Muslims. But this is precisely why it is all the more remarkable that this resentment hasn't boiled over into active persecution—something that would hardly be possible any place else in the world. As Dalmia writes:

To this country's enormous credit, New York City's Landmark Preservation Commission unanimously rejected demands that it subvert local zoning ordinances allowing houses of worship in the area "as a right" to scuttle the project…

The losers have appealed the decision, although they know they have virtually no chance of prevailing. Yet so far they have resorted not to violence but persuasion to convince the couple to go elsewhere. Even Palin's silly tweets are infused with a sweet civility, asking Muslims to reconsider as a gesture of goodwill toward their fellow Americans.

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  1. As I recall, my 9th grade English teacher taught me that if you have to resort to claiming that your argument is “painfully obvious,” you probably don’t have enough evidence to back it up at all.

    1. Good call.

      It is painfully obvious that opposition to the Cordoba House, notes Reason Foundation Senior Analyst Shikha Dalmia, is motivated less by a desire to protect the memory of 9/11 victims and more by a knee-jerk suspicion of Muslims.

      Jut like that knee-jerk reaction against Cross burning white robed party animals vs. knee-jerk reaction against those from the south?

      I withdraw the question. The MSM and elitists automatically paint anybody from the south as racist. What we are witnessing is the reaction to a group trying to stir up trouble.

      1. You are endlessly tedious no matter what handle you use, JohnSukiPatheticBot. Why do you bother? What drives you?

        I actually don’t give a shit, so don’t bother explaining. Just shut up.

        1. Where the hell did that come from?

          1. From the pot who called the kettle black.

            1. It’s so delicious coming from the nameless pussy. So good.

              1. Coming from a fake named pussy like you is even better.

    2. And as everyone knows 9th grade English teachers have the wisdom of Dumbledore and Gandalf combined.

      1. Pangloss, too.

    3. Perhaps, just perhaps, the argument in the article summarized by that statement is more detailed than the summary linking to the article is.

      1. The article starts with:

        Sarah Palin has not only revealed herself to be linguistically challenged in “refudiating” the proposed “mosque” near Ground Zero, but also emotionally overwrought.

        Just as bad as what Sean is talking about.

        1. No. That part was correct. The constant refrain from Conservative Concern Trolls is that Islam needs to clean house; then the Concern Trolls turn into Real Trolls when Sufis try to build a center that reflects that very sentiment.

          1. Yes, delightful , happy Sufis want to build a wondrous center to promote love of and understanding about Islam and Islamic culture to those who have been harmed by some adherents of it. This way people may start listening to each other.

            And they want to start this listening process by not listening to the millions of people who are saying ‘don’t built this place here’.

            Yes, that’s how we spread understanding.

            1. The “millions” are plugging their ears and loudly saying “LALALALALALALA!! I don’t know what a Sufi is and I refuse to learn, so by default they’re all evil Mooslims who have to be eradicated!! LALALALALALALA!!!”

              Also, please account for the protests of mosques being built hundreds and thousands of miles from Hallowed Ground.

              1. Roughly 70% of people polled are against this center going in this particular place, so I understand your sarcastic quoting of ‘millions’–I should have said hundreds of millions.

                And a Sufi is a Muslim, just as is a Shia or a Sunni. I am not sure why you think being Sufi is so important. When you loathe Christians, do you single out certain sects as unfit for loathing?

                And protests against other mosques? Who knows? Perhaps people are finally waking up to the idea that the political ideology that is part and parcel of this faith is inimical to the most basic and simple tenets of American law–there’s that whole seperation of church and state thing that stem from the first amendment–Islam stands in direct opposition to that.

                And that the ideology will resort to violent means when it cannot accomplish it’s aims in a political fashion.

                1. Roughly 70% of people polled are against this center going in this particular place, so I understand your sarcastic quoting of ‘millions’–I should have said hundreds of millions.

                  1. [citation needed]
                  2. Wow, so kids, too?

                  And a Sufi is a Muslim, just as is a Shia or a Sunni. I am not sure why you think being Sufi is so important. When you loathe Christians, do you single out certain sects as unfit for loathing?

                  Because all the various sects of Islam are the same.

                  Unitarians are goofy as hell, but mainly harmless. Lots of Lutherans are pretty harmless (though many aren’t). Even some Catholics. I’m sure there are others.

                  And protests against other mosques? Who knows? Perhaps people are finally waking up to the idea that the political ideology that is part and parcel of this faith is inimical to the most basic and simple tenets of American law–there’s that whole seperation of church and state thing that stem from the first amendment–Islam stands in direct opposition to that.

                  Islam also commands that those residing in lands that do not adhere to Shariah to follow the laws of that land.

                  And that the ideology will resort to violent means when it cannot accomplish it’s aims in a political fashion.

                  Which is why, since the time of the American Revolution, we’ve had all sorts of insurrections from within the American Muslim community. Violence galore, recently, within the same community. Yesiree!

                  1. Unitarians are goofy as hell, but mainly harmless. Lots of Lutherans are pretty harmless (though many aren’t). Even some Catholics. I’m sure there are others.

                    But seriously, just like with Islam, the vast majority are peaceful and only care about getting on with life.

                  2. “Islam also commands that those residing in lands that do not adhere to Shariah to follow the laws of that land.” And to convert, or kill infidels until they will follow shariah laws in that land

  2. Scene 1: Banksters Steal $23.7 Trillion From Americans, And Get Away Scot-Free Because Americans Too Busy Worshipping Billionaires Who Robbed Them?Scene 2: American Dumbfucks Realize They’re Angry About Something, But Can’t Figure Out What? Then One Dumbfuck Points To Mosque Over By Ground Zero?Scene 3: American Dumbfucks Have “Saving Private Ryan” Moment, Arm Themselves With Flags And Signs, Stand Near Mosque And Shout Really Loudly?

  3. Has the Christopher Hitchens piece from Slate been linked? Its worth reading.

    The comment thread is a waste of time, however.

  4. To this country’s enormous credit, New York City’s Landmark Preservation Commission unanimously rejected demands that it subvert local zoning ordinances allowing houses of worship in the area “as a right” to scuttle the project.

    I still say that for the sake of understanding and tolerance (and to test the Cordoba project managers’ sincerity), a Muslim Gay Bar is opened right besides the “Community Center.”

    Al-Gay-eda Bar. Yee-had Bar.

    1. Right next door to Napaak ‘n’ Bark Doggie Daycare and Salon.

      Seriously, I think NYPD is probably going to get tired of responding to bomb threats at this joint.

    2. They should call it the Bar Spitzva!

    3. Who wants to go to a gay bar downtown?

      1. Re: Tony,

        Who wants to go to a gay bar downtown?

        Who’s going to go to a mosque downtown?

        It’s just a statement – just like the mosque!

    4. While there’s a slim element of humor in this project, if it ever happens it will end a failure. Gay Muslims aren’t going to go into a bar whose purpose is to use them as political agitprop aginst their coreligionists.

  5. Would it be too much to ask for the asshole who is building this thing to say that he is glad to live in a country where religious diversity is tolerated and to say the Muslim counties should be as tolerant?

    Being an American means taking it in the ass. This shithead wouldn’t life a finger for tolerance of anyone else’s views. But preys on our tolerance for his.

    1. Yeah, what kind of asshole builds a Muslim YMCA? What the fuck are you talking about? He’s preying on our tolerance because he wants to have a mosque. People lobbying cities all across the country to prevent mosques from being built are tolerant?

      They didn’t even expect people to flip out like this. They were building a community center near their old, full mosque. How dare they buy land and build a community center on it.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/nyregion/11mosque.html

      1. and people don’t want terrorist mooslimes building terrorist centers anywhere in usa. if you want your terrorist mosques, build them outside usa and stay there as well. and feel free to blow yourself up at you house to join your 72 vigins.

    2. How do you prey on tolerance?

      One quote from the guy:

      “Rauf added that, during Ramadan, it was important to remember the love that Jews, Muslims and Christians agree that their gods preach, adding, “It also means do not do unto others what you do not want others to do unto you.”

      1. BTW, John,

        Would it be too much to ask for the asshole who is building this thing to say that he is glad to live in a country where religious diversity is tolerated and to say the Muslim counties should be as tolerant?

        Is a BOOK LENGTH good enough for you? Or do you prefer a sound-bite taken out of context?

        http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Ri…..0060582723

        1. You are dumber than MNG. Go read that book, I have. It never mentions women’s rights or minority rights and claims that Muslims were not responsible for 9-11.

          But it puts in a lot of fluff so stupid people like you can think he is something other than what he is.

          1. Why, this almost sounds like cherry picking! Mention the parts that confirm my biases and declare the remainder fluff!

            With your track record, your claim to have read the book is taken about as seriously as Carrot Top.

          2. Actually, it’s even better! Most of what you mention is the ABSENCE of stuff, which confirms your biases. Cool stuff, bro!

          3. I mean, it’s pretty fucking clear that you don’t read the links you’re provided by bias-confirming websites based on one of the previous threads, so I’m guessing you read some reviews on RedState or some such.

          4. Go read that book, I have. It never mentions women’s rights or minority rights and claims that Muslims were not responsible for 9-11.

            And yet it does say that he is glad to live in a country where religious diversity is tolerated and says that Muslim counties should be as tolerant. Wasn’t that what you wanted from him?

            But it puts in a lot of fluff so stupid people like you can think he is something other than what he is.

            Your insight regarding what he really is comes from where?

          5. claims that Muslims were not responsible for 9-11

            Bullshit. Straight up lie on your part. Worse than how you misconstrue Trenberth’s “travesty” email. And that’s saying something.

            1. A challenge for John, since he has read the book.

              Please summarize, for those who have not read the book:

              1) The main argument/point of the book.
              2) The “Muslims were not responsible for 9/11” claim, in context including who and what the author blames for the attack.

              (p.s., I will go on record saying that “Muslims” were not responsible for 9/11. Collective blame should never be tolerated. Individuals are responsible for their actions. A claim that the attackers were not Muslim based on their anti-Muslim behavior is a nuanced claim that can be debated. But it is much different than the NON-controversial claim that Muslims writ large are not responsible for the 9/11 attacks.)

      2. Are you kidding me?

        “Rauf added that, during Ramadan, it was important to remember the love that Jews, Muslims and Christians agree that their gods preach, adding, “It also means do not do unto others what you do not want others to do unto you.”

        And you can’t see the hypocracy there?

        Do you seriously mean to tell me that you believe Rauf would be happy if we started building American Cultural Centers(with places of worship for all of America’s various faiths all over the Middle east–near, but not on, sites that the military bombed?

        1. We have American Cultural Centers all over the place. They’re not named as such, but they’re certainly out there.

        2. Yes. I believe he would be fine with that.

    3. Luckily for you you’re devoid of all tolerance, so there’s nothing to prey on.

    4. And “the asshole who is building this thing” is considered to be left-of-center among American Muslim leaders. He’s essentially appealing to the same deity and values you claim to have.

      And you might not be aware of this, but living in this country means you tolerate Christianity in all its forms, because you don’t have a choice, because it’s everywhere.

      1. “And “the asshole who is building this thing” is considered to be left-of-center among American Muslim leaders.”

        This is a pretty damning statement, considering he’s an apologist who refers to mass murder as a “poke in the face”.

        Isn’t this essentially the conservative problem? You guys ramble on about this guy being a “moderate”, or even to the left (confusion, this is supposed to be good?). But somehow people who don’t apologize for terrorism are called the American Taliban and linked to mass murderers. So you can forgive those who minimize mass murder, but not those who think government spending should be lower.

        Bizarre.

    5. “Would it be too much to ask for the asshole who is building this thing to say that he is glad to live in a country where religious diversity is tolerated and to say the Muslim counties should be as tolerant?”

      I think it’s great that there’s a place like this where I can send my Christian acquaintances to show them how libertarians will always stick up for their rights as fundamentalist Christians.

      …even when they’re acting like jackholes, it’s nice to know that there are so many libertarians out there who will stick up for fundamentalist Christians–likewise–and say no one should call them jackholes.

      Nope, you shouldn’t be allowed to discriminate against fundamentalist Christians, and you should never, ever call them “jackholes”…

      …not even when they’re acting like jackholes.

      P.S. If a jackhole doesn’t realize he’s being an jackhole, why would that make any difference?

  6. “Coke/Sprite Zero is proud to sponsor the Ground-Zero Mosque/Vistor Center dedicated to the Heroes of 9/11.”

    “Get your hamless hero or lamby Gyro with your zero drink today.”

  7. Dan Henninger had an interesting take on this in todays WSJ editorial –

    Tolerance at Ground Zero-
    “In 1995, the Saudis and others, with the Vatican’s support, opened a large, beautiful mosque in Rome. The expectation was that the Saudis would loosen their restrictions on Christian practice. Despite some one million immigrant Christian workers there, the Saudis have done nothing. Frustrated by the repeated failure of Islamic leaders to match promises with practice, Pope Benedict added to the Vatican’s strategy of accommodation a one-word policy, which the tolerance advocates here should adopt: “reciprocity.”

    The idea: There will be support for fewer new mosques in the West until the home countries stop hammering non-Islamic religions. Until they reciprocate good will with good will.

    Imam Feisal and his partners are getting more than they’ve earned. That’s nice. But even in tolerant America, political life isn’t a one-way street. Islam is in political tension with the world over Islamic terror. The next time a terrorist tries to blow up New York, let’s hope the TV cameras’ first stop for a denunciation won’t be the mayor, but the front steps of Cordoba House.”

    The elephant in the room during this whole debate is how unbelievably hypocritical the Imam’s are in regards to tolerance of competing viewpoints. I’m not entirely buying Ms. Dalmia’s point in this article-that she’s so surprised that people against the mosque haven’t gone on a Muslim killing spree over it yet. This once again highlights the disconnect between what the left accuses the right of being and what the right actually is. It falls in line the with Tea Party rants that the left is making all the time. There is a huge difference between what the left thinks they are and what they really are in person.

    I suppose that doesn’t sell as many newspapers though.

    1. Well said. Although I’m sure Ms. Dalmia’s expression of shock (that overall-clad rednecks haven’t lumbered up yonder to New York and filled the Imam with buckshot) is getting her roars of laughter at dinner parties.

      As Hitchens says in his article linked above, let’s let Rauf put his money where his mouth is, literally. Sure, he’s got the legal right to build his community center, so let him. And then let a vigilant press track who’s paying the rent. And if Feisal and Daisy are taking or laundering money for pro-terror militant groups, I hope they can pack really fast, because they’re not exactly in friendly territory.

    2. That WSJ article is collectivist nonsense. Individual Americans have no business tossing their values of tolerance, religious freedom and property rights overboard because governments somewhere are oppressing Christians.

      1. Individual Americans have no business tossing their values of tolerance, religious freedom and property rights overboard because governments somewhere are oppressing Christians.

        That’s not what the article is proposing. Henninger is asking a reasonable question, why should non-muslim communities bend over backwards to accommodate muslims when muslim communities never show any kind of reciprocity?

        No one is saying that they should be “banned” from building this thing, but clearly a majority of New Yorkers -not “Christians”- find this particular location in bad taste. One would think that under the circumstances a Muslim group trying to build bridges with the West would take this in to consideration instead of building this thing two blocks from ground zero.

        You know, reciprocity. Read the article again.

        1. when muslim communities never show any kind of reciprocity?

          I’m sorry, what? Never? So the continual outreach of, for example, the University of Akron’s and Greater Akron and Kent’s Muslim community in hosting the infidel for Iftar during Ramadan doesn’t count?

          but clearly a majority of New Yorkers -not “Christians”- find this particular location in bad taste.

          Now we’re into John territory here. [citation needed]. But more than that, WHO CARES if a majority finds it “in bad taste”. In this country, simple majorities of citizens opinions can’t be used to restrict the rights of minorities.

          1. the continual outreach of, for example, the University of Akron’s and Greater Akron and Kent’s Muslim community

            That’s in Ohio. The article is referring to Muslim countries. I should have used that word instead of “community”. My bad.

            [citation needed]
            AP
            A Marist College poll released Tuesday found that 53 percent of New York City voters polled oppose constructing the mosque there. Just 34 percent favored the plan in the poll, which also showed a slide in Bloomberg’s traditional high approval ratings.

            But more than that, WHO CARES if a majority finds it “in bad taste”. In this country, simple majorities of citizens opinions can’t be used to restrict the rights of minorities.

            For the umpteenth time, no one is calling for anyone’s rights to be restricted. What’s insane is that people like you are accusing those of us (which apparently is a majority in New York) who think this is in bad taste of being bigoted racist troglodytes because we think that this location is insensitive, and unnecessarily inflammatory.

            Read this again: I defend their right to build it anywhere in the country on property they rightfully own, but I’m allowed to voice my displeasure at the chosen location.

            THIS DOES NOT MAKE ME A BIGOTED RACIST MUSLIM HATER.

            1. That’s in Ohio. The article is referring to Muslim countries. I should have used that word instead of “community”. My bad.

              OK, then the argument that has been made elsewhere applies: why is religious tolerance contingent upon foreign governments? This is like the Lou Dobbs argument regarding free trade that he kept putting forth on Stossel’s show without getting within 10 miles of a specific proposal as to how to accomplish it. Why is this conditional on an external entity’s actions?

              A Marist College poll released Tuesday found that 53 percent of New York City voters polled oppose constructing the mosque there.

              +/- 4 percent. Also, what was the question, exactly?

              For the umpteenth time, no one is calling for anyone’s rights to be restricted.

              Then why all the energy expended up until recently in engaging any and all levels of local government and quasi-government groups at the neighborhood level in trying to fail this on a technicality? It seems like only AFTER all those avenues failed did the anti- folks start to make this argument.

              Which raises the question as to WHY it is thought to be “in bad taste”, “insensitive” and “inflammatory” and also why other mosque projects nowhere near Hallowed Ground are having strikingly similar levels of hysteria attached to them. No one seems to want to address Murfreesboro or Sheboygan.

              1. It seems like only AFTER all those avenues failed did the anti- folks start to make this argument.

                Perhaps more accurately, it seems like it was when it was looking like all the avenues were going to fail AND people started calling them out on it.

              2. Which raises the question as to WHY it is thought to be “in bad taste”

                If you don’t know the answer to this question then clearly I can’t help you.

                1. Because Muslims are scary, and people are too dim to differentiate AQ from just about any American Muslim congregation?

                  Are all Christians just like the Tamil Tigers or Westboro Baptist? Of course not.

  8. >and more by a knee-jerk suspicion of Muslims.

    No, it’s pretty fucking obvious what the opposition is. Hey, you know where that Aghan wedding party was blown up? How about we erect a US military museum on that site, you know, in the name of opening dialog.

    If you can’t see the logic in the opposition then one can only assume you are either stupid or willfully blind in order to throw the charges of racism* or other aspersions out there against the intended victim.

    *Islam isn’t a race, but that doesn’t seem to stop the race card being thrown around.

    1. What do you think about the world’s largest, most expensive embassy that we built in Iraq?

      1. Are you against diplomatic ties with Iraq? Why do you hate the Iraqis so?

        1. “Diplomatic ties” is the euphemism for the day.

          1. I thought it was “gay marriage”?

    2. Yes, it’s pretty obvious opposition to the center is rooted in nothing but blind bigotry. Your analogy is a complete failure. Islam is not a country. Your example would be analogous to al-Queda building a memorial on the site, not someone building an Islamic based community center. We are not at war with Islam. Muslims died in the attack. There are Muslims in our armed forces. The US is not a Christian nation. Muslims enjoy the same freedoms in this country as you or me. I hope now you see how idiotic your argument is.

      1. “We are not at war with Islam. Muslims died in the attack. There are Muslims in our armed forces. The US is not a Christian nation. ”
        1″.We are not at war with Islam. ” Thats not what quaran and hadith say.
        2.”Muslims died in the attack.” yes, the hijackers and their sympathisers on the ground.
        3.”There are Muslims in our armed forces” yes, like that mooslime guy who killed his fellow soldiers inside the army base.
        4. “The US is not a Christian nation.” not with you around

  9. But a victory statement communicated through esoteric means negates itself because such means signal weakness, not strength.

    Yeah, my first thought whenever I hear people speaking any language other than English is “Fuckin’ pussies!”
    Da’wah, as the pussies say, is not “esoteric”?the doctrines of Islam are public, though they’ve assumed the status of open secrets lately?and it’s not a “victory statement.” It’s a summoning. The very same guy who’s building the place wrote a whole book about it.

    And the Muslim Brotherhood gives away free copies of it. Which is odd, seeing as how he’s totally not their kind of enslave-the-infidel sort of guy. In English.

  10. Gotta love church!! Especially one that promises to be so exotic! I will be donating 2.5% of the proceeds from my “Six Feet Under” fan-fiction (soon-to-be published by the Washington Post Company’s “Wrigley Field Regards” imprint)

  11. I said in the 1990s that the Kosovars and whoever they were fighting should come to the USA, where the people from that region all live in peace. Somehow all those foreign feuding types lose their animosity when they come here.

  12. Even Palin’s silly tweets are infused with a sweet civility, asking Muslims to reconsider as a gesture of goodwill toward their fellow Americans.

    Bigots have long been known to “infuse with sweet civility” public statements designed to advance their bigoted cause, when the general public has a distaste for it. Just like white folks who didn’t want blacks to move into their neighborhoods expressed concern that they didn’t want the blacks to be attacked by white supremacists. Just like men said that women should not be allowed to compete with men in business because it would hurt their self-esteem. Etc.

    1. Right, everyone against the mosque is a bigot. This claim reminds me of conservatives who claim that everyone for legal drugs is a drug user.

      Is there some universal human limitation preventing people from considering that people can disagree? Or is it just that everyone likes to be on the moral high horse once in a while and so claim the mantle of perfection?

  13. Oh, goody! A fresh thread where John can post a link that doesn’t say what he thinks it says (because he didn’t fucking read the link, or he’s an idiot with comprehension problems) and then slink away silently when called out on it.

    Huzzah!

    1. Sooo…every thread ever?

      1. Well, I suppose, but this topic has really brought out some egregious bullshit.

  14. I say people can build whatever they want on their own property – zoning laws be damned.

    That said, I expect within a few years of its completion there’s probably be a “shocking” expose on what’s being taught in this mosque. That a lot of people are going to look like naive twits. And that there’s going to be a hell of a shitstorm after said twits are so publicly made fools of, leaving relations between Muslims and non-Muslims in this country worse off.

  15. “And that there’s going to be a hell of a shitstorm after said twits are so publicly made fools of”

    No way. Those on the left never pay a price. Look at the idiots who supported Nifong. They’re heroes to the left, in many cases have been promoted. By Any Means Necessary is not just a slogan, it’s a promise. And that promise includes protecting those who are burned pushing your side.

  16. The problem here is so simple really. It started when someone decided that there was a ‘War on Terror’. This would be similar to a ‘War on Sniping’ or a ‘War on Pincer Manuevers’. The US went to war against a tactic.

    In WW2 we were at war with Nazism and Fascism–and we fought the supporters of those ideologies at home, and abroad.

    We have avoided even the appearance of being engaged with the ideology that is fighting us now.

    We are at war with Islam.

    Islam is a faith, but it is a faith designed as a political system, a faith designed as a world conquering ideology.

    In WW2 we fought the ideologies of Fascism and Nazism in all the places it appears–against nations and groups.

    And we did not hide from what we were fighting against.

    Now, we fear speaking the truth. Even supporters of the ‘War on Terror’ refuse to make this connection–to them, we fight ‘jihadis’, or ‘islamists’. And we do this because not all Muslims are jihadis.

    Not all Germans were Nazis, Not all Italians were fascists–but we understood that we had to fight, and win–or die.

    Then, we chose our life, and the life of our ideals over the lives and ideals of those promoting horror.

    We must make that same stance today.

    The Bund is building centers to teach the lessons of Mein Kampf. Why can we not see that?

    Because it calls itself a faith?

  17. Copypasta! Tasty.

    1. What are you calling ‘copypasta’, dhimmi?

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    United States of America ! the commander, stop communist obama,REPOST THIS IF YOU AGREE .. THE END OF AMERICA

  21. TO THE WEAK-KNEED REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRAT?..Wake up america!!!! This goverment is the most corrupt we have had in years. The good old boy network is very much in charge.Mr. obama and pelosi are the puppet masters.How many of their good friends benefited by the agreement ” what a farce. All of the u.sSenators voted for this. I am ashamed to say I voted for the these corupted self serving politicians.With good reason they picked an out of towner to be president.All u.s departments need an overhaul. We need to rid ourselves of the puppet masters and the dept heads that bow down to obama and pelosi.I am sick of the lip service I have been getting from these dummies over violations, their friends are getting away with.in the goverment . Barack Hussein Obama , threatens friends and bows to Mmslim.
    INPEACH OBAMA ,GOD OPEN YOUR EYES.///For us there are only two possiblities: either we remain american or we come under the thumb of the communist Mmslim Barack Hussein OBAMA. This latter must not occur.THE COMMANDER,.. THE END OF AMERICA

  22. OBAMA goes about his business by speaking the lie. II Thessalonians 2 says that he comes “with all deceivableness of unrighteousness.” Revelation 13:12 says, “and he spoke as a dragon?.” Revelation 17 tells us that he was a false prophet, a prophet being one whose calling it is to speak and to teach. The armies of the world may have guns and tanks and bombs to bring people into submission; but the power of speech and ideas is a mighty power. In his initial attempts to destroy the cause of God, OBAMA used a serpent to deceive the woman with crooked speech: “You will be like God.” Now he uses a “dragon” who speaks crafty, lying words. His speeches will be heard by millions who will hang on his persuasive rhetoric. The content as well as the form of his speech will attract. Like most false prophets, he will even be sincere and passionate. But he is a liar. He adds dashes of truth to the mix, so that his lie tastes like truth. He will use all the right catchwords, using the language of the church, even throwing in a Bible text or two. But he is the ultimate Liar, and will deceive many.
    OBAMA will use every tool available: school teachers, politicians, news broadcasters, artists, musicians, scientists and doctors, lawyers and businessmen. All will be pressed into the service of OBAMA to deceive men. But especially he will use those whose calling it is to persuade and to teach ?quot; men who claim to be preachers of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
    THE COMMANDER,,, REPOST THIS IF YOU AGREE .. THE END OF AMERICA

  23. The losers have appealed the decision, although they know they have virtually no chance of prevailing.

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