Morning Stagliano Roundup

Matt Welch | 7.15.2010 9:56 AM

As we await Judge Richard Leon's ruling on whether the government's evidence malfunction will invalidate some of the case against adult video distributor John Stagliano, some more related headlines from around the Intertubes:

* The Reporters Committe for the Freedom of the Press: Access to High-profile Obscenity Trial Partially Blocked

* Ashby Jones, Wall Street Journal: Obscene or Not Obscene? In D.C. Federal Court, That is the Question

* Amanda Hess, Washington City Paper: Should Porn Star Testify Under Her Real Name?

* AdultFYI.com: Lorelei Lee Revealed as the Madam X in the Stagliano Porn Trial; She Holds a NYU Masters Degree

* Aurora Snow, AVN: "By the prosecution's standard most porn would be considered obscene"

* Dave Weigel, The Atlantic: The Screwing of John Stagliano

* Sing City Chronicles: Reason Gets a Chubby

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hmm 15 years ago

So when is reason going to preview Storm Squirters Two and Milk Maids?
Jordan Elliot 15 years ago

Who's the blond?
1. ClubMedSux 15 years ago
  
  Lorelei Lee. (When in doubt, right-click the pic, select "view image," and check out the file name.)
  1. Jordan Elliot 15 years ago
    
    Doing a quick search on my usual "entertainment" haunts yields several results of scenes that I've actually seen.
    
    Tired + Bad eyes = Looking like a dumbass online.
  2. Azathoth 15 years ago
    
    She's a regular on kink.com---shoulda figured she'd be with Stagliano.
John 15 years ago

She is pretty cute for a porn star.
1. Citizen Nothing 15 years ago
  
  I don't watch much porn. Really. (No, really.) I would think that the money involved in big-time productions would be enough to attract reasonably attractive actors. No?
  1. John 15 years ago
    
    I don't watch much porn either. So when I think of a porn star I think of Jenna Jamison, the only one who seems to make the news. And Jamison is a complete skank. I wouldn't fuck her with Hitler's dick.
    
    The woman in the picture in contrast is not gorgeous but cute and not what I would think of when I think porn star.
    1. Jordan Elliot 15 years ago
      
      I have to say, the two of you with your "I don't watch much porn" reads very shifty like.
      
      Not doubting either of you. It just sounds that way in my addled mind.
      1. Citizen Nothing 15 years ago
        
        Heh heh heh.
      2. John 15 years ago
        
        Note the key term "much". If we had said we don't watch or never watch porn, you would have known we are liars.
  2. SugarFree 15 years ago
    
    Attractive women can usually make money much easier than getting cum shit into their mouth while having a huge cock buried in their sigmoid colon.
    1. John 15 years ago
      
      Yeah if you are hot and have no shame and need money, you can make good money as a stripper or a hooker and not leave any video evidence to haunt you the rest of your life. I really don't see how they get women to do it.
      1. Virginia 15 years ago
        
        I read an interview with former call girl Ava Devine where she claimed to make gobs more money in film than her own off-camera practice.
        
        Also, the element of safety probably should not be overlooked.
        
        Ska 15 years ago
        
        Ava Devine, now that's a skanky porn star. She's got to be in her forties and does all the things the 20 year olds don't have to do (yet).
        
        John 15 years ago
        
        True. But when is the last time you heard of a high end call girl getting murdered? Pretty rare. I suspect it is about the money.
        
        Tulpa 15 years ago
        
        I don't think he was talking about murder, rather the danger of being arrested and/or getting STDs. Porn actors are tested for STDs frequently.
    2. Citizen Nothing 15 years ago
      
      Good point, SF.
      1. The Art-P.O.G. 15 years ago
        
        I do know exotic dancing is a gateway porn.
        
        Jordan Elliot 15 years ago
        
        $20 to the first person to dig up vids from P.O.G.'s porn career.
        
        Barney Stinson 15 years ago
        
        Legen...wait for it...
        
        The Art-P.O.G. 15 years ago
        
        Look, I only did all those pegging DVDs because I really needed the money, OK?
2. Tulpa 15 years ago
  
  She is pretty cute for a porn star.
  
  I suspect that with the porn industry much bigger and more competitive thanks to the Internet, a lot of the cute girls who used to go to Hollywood to become a movie star are now going into porn, which has a much higher likelihood of an immediate payday than Hollywood does.
  
  And chances are there are fewer guys they have to have sex with to become a porn star than to become a movie star too.
  1. The Art-P.O.G. 15 years ago
    
    And chances are there are fewer guys they have to have sex with to become a porn star than to become a movie star too.
    
    Beautiful quip, man!
Brian Moore 15 years ago

Is that a George Martin book in the background? I think I can see a Terry Pratchett book too! She's in the sci-fi section!

Oh wait, did I fail the test?
1. tarran 15 years ago
  
  My initial reaction to the picture was to wonder when is the next Game of Thrones book coming out.
Solanum 15 years ago

Dave Weigel, The Atlantic: The Screwing of John Stagliano

Screwing? I'm surprised Dave didn't say something like "gentle rectal exploration."
1. John 15 years ago
  
  He wanted to say "The ratfucking of John Stagliano" but his editors wouldn't approve.
  1. Citizen Nothing 15 years ago
    
    He he he.
    1. Citizen Nothing 15 years ago
      
      But good for Weigel for landing a gig.
R C Dean 15 years ago

Glad to see Weigs finally stumbled on the one issue where squishy liberals and libertarians agree - the First Amendment.
1. John 15 years ago
  
  Only when it comes to porn RC. If Stagliano had been buying ad time against Harry Reid arguing against cap and trade, Weigal and his cohorts would be demanding he be strung up.
2. Tulpa 15 years ago
  
  I'm not so sure about liberals agreeing with libertarians on porn. SugarFree can probably provide a link.
P Brooks 15 years ago

By the prosecution's standard most porn would be considered obscene

You're shitting me, right?

RIGHT?
1. John 15 years ago
  
  Isn't that kind of the point? Who would pay to see "non obscene" porn?
  1. most 15 years ago
    
    women
    1. andy 15 years ago
      
      +1
    2. dbcooper 15 years ago
      
      Most women I know who like porn like stuff that's pretty "filthy."
      1. most 15 years ago
        
        DB, the operative words : women I know
        
        dbcooper 15 years ago
        
        I do know a better class of woman, yes.
        
        I guess you get 15 years ago
        
        what you pay for.
  2. The Gobbler 15 years ago
    
    No one is obsene.
  3. Nick 15 years ago
    
    People still pay for porn? I'm convinced the FBI and SEC are the only people paying for it....which I guess means we're all paying for it? Ugh.
    1. Tulpa 15 years ago
      
      You get what you pay for. Well, unless you are stealing it, in which case you should be shunned by the libertarian community (but probably won't be around here due to IP blind spots).
      1. The Art-P.O.G. 15 years ago
        
        I pay 4 pr0n.
        
        Tulpa 15 years ago
        
        Good for you. It's just sickening to contemplate the ingratitude of the freeloaders who consume the excess that trickles down from us paying bators.
    2. Joe 15 years ago
      
      I know. And ordering porn through the mail? You can still do that?
P Brooks 15 years ago

But good for Weigel for landing a gig.

Does that go in the "created" or "saved" column?
Tulpa 15 years ago

Thank you for posting a picture of Lorelei instead of the silicone MILF Aurora has become.
Tulpa 15 years ago

Oh, and by the way, you really should have a NSFW tag on the AVN and AdultFYI links up there.
1. R C Dean 15 years ago
  
  IT paid you a little visit, did they, Tulpa?
  1. Tulpa 15 years ago
    
    Luckily I was eating lunch at Quizno's when I loaded that link, so no. Hopefully the manager doesn't find out and start sticking some free extras in my tuna subs in the future.
2. The Art-P.O.G. 15 years ago
  
  Yeah, that AdultFYI site had some banner ads that were NSFW.
  1. What a shocker 15 years ago
    
    A story on porn had links that are not safe for work!
    1. The Art-P.O.G. 15 years ago
      
      ...Not all the links from this thread are NSFW...
Jose Ortega y Gasset 15 years ago

Who's the dick at Sing City?
Tulpa 15 years ago

Heh, the AdultFYI story gives enough information to find Lorelei's real name in about 15 minutes for someone marginally Internet literate.

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