The 9/14 Presidency
Barack Obama is operating with the war powers granted George W. Bush three days after the 9/11 attacks.
If you believe the president's Republican critics, Barack Obama takes a law enforcement approach to terrorism. His FBI came under fire for reading Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian national who nearly blew up an airplane on Christmas, his constitutional rights. His attorney general was blasted for wanting to give 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed a criminal trial in lower Manhattan. Republican Sen. Scott Brown rode to his historic upset victory in Massachusetts in part due to this slogan: "In dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them." Every sign suggests the GOP will make terrorism a wedge issue in the 2010 midterm elections. "As I've watched the events of the last few days," former vice president Dick Cheney said shortly after the Abdulmutallab attack, "it is clear once again that President Obama is trying to pretend we are not at war."
It's true that the president's speeches and some of his administration's policy rollouts have emphasized a break from the Bush era. In the Quadrennial Defense Review, the guiding strategy for defense spending released every four years, the administration excised any reference to the "long war," previously the go-to euphemism for the global war on terror. In a major speech last summer, the president's top adviser on terrorism and homeland security, John Brennan, said explicitly that Obama rejected the phrase "global war" because "it plays into the misleading and dangerous notion that the U.S. is somehow in conflict with the rest of the world." In a USA Today op-ed piece last February, Brennan argued that Republican critics were playing into Al Qaeda's hands by suggesting U.S. courts could not handle terrorism prosecutions.
But these differences in style mask a sameness in substance that should worry civil libertarians. When it comes to the legal framework for confronting terrorism, President Obama is acting in no meaningful sense any different than President Bush after 2006, when the Supreme Court overturned the view that the president's war time powers were effectively unlimited. As the Obama administration itself is quick to point out, the Bush administration also tried terrorists apprehended on U.S. soil in criminal courts, most notably "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui and shoe bomber Richard Reid. More important, President Obama has embraced and at times defended the same expansive view of a global war against Al Qaeda as President Bush.
The U.S. still reserves the right to hold suspected terrorists indefinitely without charge, try them via military tribunal, keep them imprisoned even if they are acquitted, and kill them in foreign countries with which America is not formally at war (including Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan). When Obama closed the secret CIA prisons known as "black sites," he specifically allowed for temporary detention facilities where a suspect could be taken before being sent to a foreign or domestic prison, a practice known as "rendition." And even where the Obama White House has made a show of how it has broken with the Bush administration, such as outlawing enhanced interrogation techniques, it has done so through executive order, which can be reversed at any time by the sitting president.
The font of this extraordinary authority is a congressional resolution passed just three days after the 9/11 attacks. It says, "The president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons."
Just as President Bush said the 9/14 resolution gave him the wartime powers to detain, interrogate, capture, and kill terrorists all over the world, so too does President Obama. On March 13, 2009 Justice Department lawyers said in a Habeas brief before the D.C. Federal Court that this resolution, known as the AUMF, or authorization of the use of military force, granted the administration detention authority.
It's true that the Obama administration has rejected the early Bush administration's assertion of an almost supreme wartime executive, or that the president's wartime authorities can overrule laws passed by Congress. Also President Obama asserts that the powers granted by the 9/14 resolution must cohere to international laws of war. But these differences are less significant than one might imagine.
A speech last month from Harold Koh, the State Department's legal adviser, acknowledged that the international laws of war have not properly contemplated a war against a global terror network. "Those laws of war were designed primarily for traditional armed conflicts among states," Koh said. "Not conflicts against a diffuse, difficult-to-identify terrorist enemy, therefore construing what is 'necessary and appropriate' under the AUMF requires some 'translation,' or analogizing principles from the laws of war governing traditional international conflicts."
As long as the AUMF remains the law of the land, any change in the legal conduct of our open-ended, undeclared war will be, at most, cosmetic. While it's true that President Obama appears more reluctant to use these extraordinary powers than his predecessor, he is nonetheless asserting, enthusiastically at times, that he has such powers. And because so much of the American war on terror is conducted in secret, it is difficult to know what Obama is and is not doing to wage it.
The Mirage of Accountability
Unlike other wars in American history, a global war on a terrorist network has no geographic boundaries and no clear endpoint. FDR interned Japanese Americans until the end of World War II, an extraordinary assault on civil liberties. But at least there was no doubt what the end of that war would look like.
"The danger of a war that takes place everywhere and lasts forever is that it gives the president almost limitless authority to detain or even kill U.S. citizens and civilians anywhere in the world," says Ben Wizner, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union. On February 3, Dennis Blair, director of national intelligence, confirmed that power in congressional testimony, telling lawmakers that the administration had the right to kill American citizens who joined Al Qaeda without court involvement or consultation with Congress. The only legal authority required, Blair said, was "special permission," which amounts to presidential approval on a case-by-case basis.
This position troubles Philip Alston, the United Nations special rapporteur for extrajudicial executions, whose requests for information on CIA drone strikes has been stonewalled by the Obama administration. "The U.S. under President Obama has apparently maintained the Bush administration's view that, because it is involved in a global armed conflict against Al Qaeda, it is permitted to target and kill relevant individuals anywhere in the world," Alston says.
The White House has repeatedly defended using the same powers that were frequent targets of Democratic criticism when Bush and Cheney were exercising them. In a December speech at West Point announcing a surge of 30,000 troops in Afghanistan, Obama underscored that the action was authorized by the September 14 resolution, which, he noted, passed by a vote of 98 to 0 in the Senate.
In the February 1 issue of The New Republic, Jack Goldsmith, a Justice Department lawyer during the Bush administration, argued that Obama has assumed his predecessor's war powers in part because the early overreach of Bush prompted safeguards that make the executive branch more accountable. Goldsmith, who had been a sharp critic of Dick Cheney's views on executive power, pointed to "armies of lawyers" in the current administration whose sole job is to make sure highly classified programs adhere to congressional restrictions. "The enhanced powers of the presidency after September 11 have become part of the national fabric, in short, because they have received the consent of our national institutions, and thus of the people themselves," he concluded.
It's true that elements of Bush policy have been reined in by other branches of government. The Supreme Court rejected the military commissions that were first developed for detainees sent to Guantanamo. Obama has remade the commissions, with help from Republicans in Congress, to comply with the high court's ruling. Congress, which the Bush administration largely ignored when it developed its post-9/11 National Security Agency (NSA) surveillance program, has now reauthorized the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to allow for much of what was decried as warrantless surveillance of Americans' phone calls and email. And Congress has asserted at least limited oversight of the war: The top Republican and Democratic leaders of Congress, along with the chairmen and vice chairmen of the intelligence committees—the so-called Gang of Eight—are consulted on major intelligence programs and counterterrorism operations, as they were prior to 9/11.
But this kind of accountability is fundamentally handicapped by the fact that it has no public component. It is far too easy for the consulted members of Congress to conveniently forget their briefings when shadowy counterterrorism practices are disclosed in the media. Nancy Pelosi famously said she was never told about the CIA's waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogations" after they came to light, even after the CIA produced an official record of a September 2002 briefing on interrogation techniques that said she attended.
These layers of accountability have not prevented abuses in the past. "The creation of the FISA Court in 1978 did not stop the Bush administration from circumventing it in 2001," says Steven Aftergood, the head of the project on government secrecy for the Federation of American Scientists. "And neither Congress nor the courts have found a way to provide a remedy to people like Maher Arar, who was 'rendered' to Syria for abusive interrogation by the U.S. government though he was innocent of any role in terrorism. And the government has now normalized torture by redefining it in a convenient if unpersuasive way. The armies of lawyers that Goldsmith sees working on accountability are not going to hold anyone accountable for any of these developments. Nor will they compensate the victims."
On the vital question of the public's right to know what its government is doing, the Obama administration has a mixed record at best. On the transparency side, the Justice Department has disclosed the legal memos drafted in Bush's second term that reined in some of the president's extraordinary powers. Over objections from the CIA, the White House ordered the release of a Justice Department inspector general's report on the enhanced interrogation program.
Yet while the Obama White House has not said so explicitly, its policy to date has been to protect any secret that could theoretically implicate allied intelligence services, thereby keeping dark one of the murkiest corners of counterterrorism. The Justice Department, for example, has urged the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit to throw out a civil suit brought on behalf of Binyam Mohammed, an Ethiopian national. Mohammed was first arrested in Pakistan, and likely tortured there, then sent to Morocco, Afghanistan, and finally the prison at Guantanamo Bay. Last February, he was released from Guantanamo with no charges filed against him. To keep details of the case from coming out, the Obama administration went so far as to threaten the British Foreign Office, saying the U.S. might withhold future intelligence cooperation if a British court released to the public a U.S. document confirming some of Mohammed's poor treatment. In February the court ignored the pleadings of both Washington and London, releasing the seven-paragraph summary at the center of the controversy.
As for overseeing the intelligence community's surveillance of Americans, the Obama administration has failed to appoint members to the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, a panel formed in 2004 and modified in 2007 to prevent the government from spying on U.S. citizens. As former New Jersey Republican Gov. Thomas H. Kean, co-chairman of the 9/11 Commission, said in January, "We have now a massive capacity in this country to develop data on individuals, and the board should be the champion of seeing that collection capabilities do not intrude into privacy and civil liberties."
The White House has also opposed a section of the 2011 intelligence authorization bill that would give the General Accounting Office greater authority to audit the intelligence community.
The Forever War
In an April 2009 speech at the National Archives announcing his policy on detainees and transparency, the president talked about the open-ended ambiguities of the current national security conflict. "Unlike the Civil War or World War II, we cannot count on a surrender ceremony to bring this journey to an end," he said. "Right now, in distant training camps and in crowded cities, there are people plotting to take American lives. That will be the case a year from now, five years from now, and—in all probability—10 years from now."
The man who wrote most of that speech, Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Ben Rhodes, says Obama has deliberately narrowed the focus of the war on terror to Al Qaeda. He adds that the president is trying to leave a more sustainable legal framework for the war to his successor, pointing to the administration's bipartisan work to make military commissions comply with the Supreme Court's 2006 ruling rejecting Bush's approach.
"We would never claim we are doing everything different," Rhodes says. "There were good steps taken in the previous administration that we are building upon, but there are also other areas [where] we are providing a different focus." He also says, however, there are no current plans for revising or supplementing the open-ended September 14 authorization of force.
Changing terminology and acknowledging the problems with open-ended powers are not the same as resolving the ambiguities and hard questions inherent in fighting against disparate groups intent on waging asymmetric warfare against civilians all over the globe. Doug Feith, undersecretary of defense for policy in the first Bush term, argues that both the "war" and "law enforcement" approaches to fighting terrorist organizations were imperfect concepts. Law enforcement is inadequate, he says, because it focuses on building evidence to try people for crimes that have already been committed, as opposed to preventing a deadly attack in the first place. But the war concept is problematic too.
"The nature of the enemy is that it is spread out all over the world," Feith says. "It is an ideological movement rooted in religion, and it is a network and decentralized. For all of those reasons the construct or concept of war did not fit perfectly either. The principle strategic challenge in this war is how do you fight an enemy located in numerous countries with whom you are not at war."
It would be easy to embrace the idea that all of Obama's and Bush's extraordinary powers are premised on a wildly exaggerated threat. Many more Americans died on our highways in 2001 than from terrorism, but the threat of driving has not mobilized the federal government to create a massive secret bureaucracy to protect us from car accidents.
But small networks of non-uniformed terrorists are indeed actively plotting to inflict maximum civilian deaths in the U.S. and elsewhere, with weapons as potent as they can get their hands on. Only a day before reasserting the president's power to kill American citizens, Dennis Blair had told the Senate Intelligence Committee he was certain Al Qaeda would attempt an attack on the continental United States by July. After Christmas bomber Abdulmutallab began cooperating with the FBI at the end of January, he told the bureau there were other English-speaking terrorists being trained at camps he had visited in Yemen. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee released a report in January detailing how American ex-felons who converted to Islam in prison had traveled to Yemen for possible terrorist training.
Even if there were no jihadist threat, the march of technology has reached a point where small networks of individuals can launch the same kind of mass-casualty attacks that a generation ago were the province only of nation-states. If one of those terrorists blows up a plane or poisons a reservoir, even if the operation isn't as deadly as 9/11, there will almost certainly be a public demand for more draconian measures to keep us safe.
Before that happens, there are some steps that can be taken to make sure the extraordinary powers granted on September 14, 2001 do not become permanent. Some legal scholars have suggested that the extraordinary powers be sunsetted and re-debated by Congress every few years, as elements of the Patriot Act on occasion expire. The fundamental anti-terrorism powers granted British authorities for most of the 20th century known at first as the Prevention of Violence Act and then later as the Prevention of Terrorism Act, expired every few years requiring new authorizations—even as the U.K. fought a counter-insurgency campaign at home against the IRA.
This kind of approach is in keeping with recommendations of Yale law professor Bruce Ackerman. Soon after 9/11 he argued that there is an important distinction between war powers, which he says are inappropriate in the context of counterterrorism, and a state of emergency, which would require limited abridgements of civil liberties that are time limited. The British laws first developed to combat the IRA and today used against radical Muslim groups are still described in the law as "temporary powers."
Second, Republicans and Democrats have pressed the administration to strengthen the oversight of the intelligence community by appointing the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, an idea that has been championed by both chairmen of the bipartisan 9/11 commission. Such independent watchdogs are an important part of curbing abuses and provide a place, besides Congress, where whistleblowers can register concerns.
Finally, lawmakers in Congress have at times demanded more public accountability. News stories about the NSA surveillance program, extraordinary rendition, and secret prisons have produced a fair amount of congressional outrage. But Congress has not asked for a regular public accounting from the intelligence community. Indeed, the budget for all current intelligence operations remains a state secret, the details of which only a handful of congressional committees are permitted to know. There are some cases in which secrecy is necessary for successful statecraft, but Congress can enforce a strict sunset on these secrets as well. If the details of U.S.-Pakistan cooperation must be kept in the dark for now, they should not remain that way indefinitely. A model for declassification can be found in the Clinton Administration, which in 2000 released much of the secret U.S. history of aiding Augusto Pinochet in Chile due to an executive order to release most secret documents more than 25 years old.
Above all, we must be honest with ourselves. Obama, like Bush, is committed to a long war against an amorphous network of terrorists. In at least the constitutional sense, he is no harder or softer than his predecessor. And like his predecessor, he has not come up with a plan for relinquishing these extraordinary powers once the long war ends, if it ever does. If change is going to come to U.S. policy on terrorism, it will have to come from a bipartisan recognition that Americans cannot trust their government to tell them when they are safe again.
Eli Lake is national security correspondent for the Washington Times.
Editor's Note: This article originally misstated Philip Alston's title at the U.N.
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First comment.... yaaaaaayyyy....
Wow. Who could have predicted that one president would continue the abuses of power instigated by his predecessor?
Hmmm, I wonder if both Bush and Obama knows something about these terrorists that the rest of us dont.
Strange how these two seemingly disparate people are behaving the same way once they actually inhabited the office.
Reason, Matt Welch, Nick Gillespie,
Want a 500 comment item on your website today? then post the Wiki Leaked Collateral Murder? story. We realize that your Koch masters will not be happy as it is damaging to the war profiteering military industrial complex but you have to retain your credibility. The story is gonna get bigger and you will eventually have to acknowledge it:
1.Destroying a makeshift ambulance promotes terrorism in all it's forms. This does not make us safer.
2.Destroying a makeshift ambulance does not make oil cheaper. The brainwashed set here seem to still cling to the idea that we are in Iraq for "cheap oil" which is the LEAST believable reason for the war. Bush and Cheney came into their presidency making many public statement about the horrors of "cheap oil'. Saudi Arabia(the close US ally and islamo fundamentalist redicalizing agent) repeatedly threaten Sadam because he was producing "too much" oil. Bush-Cheney texas buddies were particularly hard hit by $15,$20 and $30 oil because they were marginal supplier int he world market at those low prices!
3.Destroying a makeshift ambulance is not gonna spread "democracy".
Thus, all the official reasons for us wasting our resources in the middle east are BS. If you do not acknowledge that then you are in fact not "supporting the troops"....you are helping send kids to their death for BS reasons.
It truly is astonishing that no one at Reason has touched the WikiLeaks story... but they've got neoconservative supreme Eli Lake writing about foreign policy. I thought at least Moynihan would attack WikiLeaks for conspiracy-mongering, but I suppose even he knew better.
Me and Moynihan don't take kindly to the communist sympathyzers over at wikileaks. You can' believe all this crap on the internet, besides if your going to democratize a country you need to blow up all the illegitimate ambulance services...do you just want random people running around trying to save wounded photojournalists in unlicensed craptastic ambulances?!
that would lead to anarchy and the spread of islamofacisism!
Don't worry reasonoids! If Reason will not cover this then I will take over and cover this important story. ... Of course context is important here. Let me explain. Reuters got this video quite awhile ago and they were satisifed that the army did everything by the correct rules of engagement so they chose to not release this to the public because it would only stir up terrorism by those who don't really understand what is going on in a war. Our media is pretty damn good at getting the really controversial stuff right out in the open! Of course the media is actually just trying to protect us.
The CIA actually thought it was important that the people knew the truth and some how they are so incompetant that they lost the video and never got a chance to tell us, but they were going to because they actually think this video is good, because it shows how efficient our technology has become and this explains why we are now kicking butt in Iran and Afgahnistan. If we have another surge we can use this same strategy to really turn the tables in Af/Pak and this will help lower oil prices...so you see how this may seem bad but it is really good news...just don't go all pinko and ask any more conspiracy theory questions.
oh it is not so astonishing..we don't want to encourage he conspiracy nuts...people should wait to get news from official sources. GE has a great news channnel on TV...just watch that. Rupert murdoch also puts together some great stuff...check out Red Eye...hilarious and they don't put up with this pinko conspiracy crap.
I suspect they will address the story eventually, but it is ridiculous that it hasn't been talked about. It doesn't get bigger than this
I sent a message to Welch. I can only hope they get on it. This foreign policy article seems, well, pretty critical. Neocon or not, it's on the money.
Don't worry Welch, I got it covered...we don't need to draw any more attention to this story...the government will let the people know if anything important comes up. The global war on terror is going well...wikileaks is mostly for communist...don't even bother looking at the other stories there. Check out Weizel's new column at the Washington Post he is where the real stories are breaking.
I seem to recall back in the early days of the Iraq war some photographer got himself lit up because someone pointing a zoom lens looks an awful lot like someone pointing a rocket launcher.
Sprinkle in a couple of bodyguards carrying AK-47s, and an unmarked van that pulls up and disgorges more guys in plainclothes, and I am not convinced anyone did anything wrong here.
While unfortunate, I'm still confused about what's supposed to be so damning or groundbreaking about this whole 'collateral murder' incident.
"unfortunate" come on pussy...you had to enjoy seeing that van blown up like that...it was better than carzilla at a monster truck rally. When that wounded terrorist from reuters was getting pulled into the insurgents vehicle you had to be thanking your lucky stars that we were being protected so well by uncle sam before he could get away.
Thanks R C and Art. I was beginning to feel like I was missing something real important.
News media types love to go into harms way for the stories they can get. It advances their careers and often improves their lot in life. It is collateral damage, plain and simple.
And the non photographers appear to be carrying AK-47s or RPGs. Maybe they were the Taliban or other such a-holes. So maybe our soldiers did a great job.
It just doesn't seem to be so cut and dried to me...
right on RC Dean...Obama and Bush are fucking awesome for using our resources so well....we are all safer now and nobody that counts had to die to make it happen...look at the cheap oil we get now...a few more days like that and pretty much all the terorist will be dead and democracy will be spreading
really "unmarked vans" fucking driving on roads and shit...what is next?! these islamo fascists need to be destroyed.
Does anyone know what the point of Cosmotarian Overlord is? Is it performance art, a spoof? I am never quite sure how to take its comments.
It's supposed to be a spoof troll, but it's not actually funny.
I think he just wants to be self-righteously indignant.
Right because guys in plainclothes in a van with two little girls in the front seat and picking up wounded are a real threat.
"IceTrey Right because guys in plainclothes in a van with two little girls in the front seat and picking up wounded are a real threat."
Is that what they said on the video? Did they see two little girls on the front seat, and then say "blast the little bitches"?
Talk about a long jump to conclusions...
Wikileaks, the website devoted to publishing classified documents on the Internet, made a splash today with a video claiming to show that the U.S. military "murdered" a Reuters cameraman and other Iraqi "civilians" in Baghdad on July 12, 2007. But a careful watching of the video shows that the U.S. helicopter gun crews that attacked a group of armed men in the then Mahdi Army stronghold of New Baghdad was anything but "Collateral Murder," as Wikileaks describes the incident.
There are a couple of things to note in the video. First, Wikileaks characterizes the attack as the U.S. military casually gunning down Iraqis who were innocently gathering on the streets of New Baghdad. But the video begins somewhat abruptly, with a UAV starting to track a group of Iraqi males gathering on the streets. The voice of a U.S. officer is captured in mid-sentence. It would be nice to know what happened before Wikileaks decided to begin the video. The U.S. military claimed the Iraqis were killed after a gun battle with U.S. and Iraqi security forces. It is unclear if any of that was captured on the strike footage. Here is what the U.S. military had to say about the engagement in a July 2007 press release:
There is nothing in that video that is inconsistent with the military's report. What you see is the air weapons team engaging armed men.
Second, note how empty the streets are in the video. The only people visible on the streets are the armed men and the accompanying Reuters cameramen. This is a very good indicator that there was a battle going on in the vicinity. Civilians smartly clear the streets during a gunfight.
Third, several of the men are clearly armed with assault rifles; one appears to have an RPG. Wikileaks purposely chooses not to identify them, but instead focuses on the Reuters cameraman. Why?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....d-anything
A New York Times article confirms that the tape has indeed been cut. There are 21 additional minutes of tape:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04.....ad.html?hp
the real point the NYTimes forgot to add was that the suspiciously "unmarked van" that was trying to pick up that insurgent lamely faking that injury as he crawled down the street did not have the appropriate permits to be offering medical services...the guy could have been seriously injured by these fake medical providers so the helicopter was just trying to keep him safe buy blowing the whole thing up...lucky for those Iraqis that we can show them how a real medical system works.
Cosmo...
Instead of a search for truth on this subject, you appear to be enamored with your own faceteous dialogue.
Me thinks your are just an ass in comic's clothing.
thanks guys...now don't even bother watching the video. as usual the NY Times and the Pentagon has given you all you need to know...lets move on to something more fun.
Anyone with a assault rifle is probably Al Qaeda, better safe than sorry. Once I saw that I stopped watching the video...once you see the context it makes since to blow up ambulances. It seems that some here a bit too caught up in Emily Post type etiquette. The truth is that we had to fight these guys over there or fight them over here...which would you rather see?
Another knee slapper Cosmo!
When has a president limited his own power? Any examples?
OW!!! I hurt myself laughing!!!
Ahem.
Further demonstrating that George Washington was, and will always be, the only good president the US has ever had.
Barrack said the check was in the mail, and you believed him.
Shut the fuck up, Cosmotarian Overlord.
come on warty...I'm just getting psyched up...seeing all those inurgents getting killed gives me a boner...admit it ...makes you kinda hot too. What the fuck makes those people think they can carry gun around?!...we need to show them how we like it over here in AMERIKA....blow the fuck out of anyone trying to carry weapons I say...that is DEMOKRASY and we gonna teach them real good! and the asshole with a camera? that will teach him to try and steal our souls!
CO is the worst spoof troll ever.
AmeriKa, Demokracy.
LOL. Stop, you're killing me!
"blow the fuck out of anyone trying to carry weapons I say"
Blow me first!
all those kids walking around in a war zone? why? what did they expect to happen when they bombed the world trade center...now they are learning a lesson...Like Freidman and the serious intellectuals here said, we need to make sure these folks need to learn to suck on this . They need to learn to appreciate us for saving them! I'm sick of all this whining I am hearing.
Okay, now. All you PTSD-afflicted war veterans stop going on about stuff!!
If any of you jokers have any combat time in any war, I'll eat my own shorts. If you did, you would be at least more understanding about what soldiers do under fire and how difficult it is, in truth, to make "correct" decisions in a firefight.
Second, if you think that all of the video out of any of "our" wars has been just the way it happened, you're off your medications again. One of the primary weapons used these days is the chopped video or the full video without sound, or the full/partial vid without any background, or the entirely faked scene with lying voice-over, or ... you know where I'm going; yes?
It isn't possible, without the expertise and the right software to determine whether a video lies by commission; impossible at all to determine if it lies by omission. Remember the recent story of the Arab kid in Palestine killed by the IDF? The one who came back home five days later, to a full play in the local Gaza press? Yeah, that one in the video, lying on the ground.... see? Don't get your bowls in an uproar over stuff you can't figure out and other stuff that you can't possibly understand, since you've never been there. And no, sorry, but a 4 year tour as a West Point REMF or Ivy League Reservist REMF doesn't make the cut, either.
if conservatives were like liberals, we would be out protesting the war. But we didn't protest when Bush was president and we won't now. Liberals, on the other hand, are very dishonest. They were anti war during Bush; now total silence or else using the war to drum up support for obama, which is totally shameless, since they don't support our side and that is just a cynical ploy to use the feeling that conservatives have about the US.
All those stories about our troops coming home in body bags and, more importantly to the liberal mind, all those stories about Iraqis and Afghanis killed by our troops, all gone. Bush was a war criminal, Obama is not. Under Bush our troops were vile murdereres, under Obama not.
"if conservatives were like liberals, we would be out protesting the war."
Conservatives have to go to their jobs, so they can pay their bills.
I've also heard than some conservatives think protesting is a waste of time unless your doing it with a sniper rifle and even then you have to wait for the right time. The dishonest anti-war left doesn't have as much shit to do.
Please be there in New York on May 14, 2010 . Lets start the process of "taking America back".
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I love how he bloviates about how mass-casualty-causing terrorism was the exclusive province of nation-states a generation ago. Right, like Tim McVeigh, Unabomber, Eric Rudolph, Franz Fuchs, Baruch Goldstein, etc. Which nation-state was sponsoring them again?
It seems as if Eli Lake is saying that it's OK if an Imperial President assumes the role of Imperial Dictator as long as we pretend it is a temporary thing.
Very good post. Made me realize I was totally wrong about this issue. I figure that one learns something new everyday. Mrs Right learned her lesson! Nice, informative website by the way.
but they've got neoconservative supreme Eli Lake writing about foreign policy.
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great article. i am happy to see we have finally pulled out from iraq.
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.people should wait to get news from official sources.i am happy to see we have finally pulled out from iraq
This foreign policy article seems, well, pretty critical.