Dig In!
The 152-page Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010 (PDF) is now available at the website of the House Rules Committee. If you read it in conjunction with the 2,409-page Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PDF), approved by the Senate in December, and the CBO's preliminary analysis (PDF) of the two bills (only 25 pages!), you can finally see what President Obama has in mind when he talks about "health care reform." But don't worry: The president promises you will have "many days" to digest it all before your representative votes on it. This weekend.
Addendum: The Republican members of the House Budget Committee have a three-page response to the CBO analysis here (PDF). In addition to the points I mentioned earlier today, they note several other tricks that the Democrats use to undercount spending and exaggerate savings, including frontloading taxes and Medicare cuts while backloading insurance subsidies. "When you strip away the double-counting of Medicare cuts, the so-called savings from Social Security payroll taxes, and the CLASS Act [premiums for long-term care insurance]," their analysis says, "the deficit increases by $433 billion over the first ten years."
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"Many days" and they're trying to ram a vote through this week? Did he get "days" and "seconds" mixed up again?
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There should be some sort of test involved in the voting on these things. 100 questions taken from it and if you can get 70% correct you can't vote on the bill.
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I can summarize this in one word: Lies.
What fucking dictionary do liberals use? Seriously. "Many days" and they're trying to ram a vote through this week? Did he get "days" and "seconds" mixed up again?
I did download the PDF of the health care and educational act, 2010 and I will say my first impressions on it! The e-book is really large for something that is related with an act or acts. It looked more like an encyclopedia to me. Furthermore, they could have added a bit more graphics to the book to have a better ergonomics (Oops!) Anyway I really appreciate them for publishing the book with all the matter contained and overall the book is great with each and everything on it!
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Five judges.
Five and nine does't mean openion of them matters only.
And days how much you gave them they cant't read them totally in 100 days too only read summary regarding this.
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Is there some reason these changes can't be made with technology from the new millenium? I mean, why can't we view a PDF with the changes noted to the original bill?
Uh, Tomcat, you're not supposed to use critical thinking skills. You're supposed to just listen to the sound bytes on MSNBC and take everything at face value. It's racist, homophobic, obstructionist troglodytes like you who are keeping this country from being the utopia that it could be.
Shit! Is there somewhere I can go to get these individualistic and rational thoughts out of my head. You see, I didn't graduate from public school.
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Rahm, can't wait for the team to get here. Hope you'll come too. Bernie's on his way over, says he has five dollars for each of you. Me, I have twenties.
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but, the cake! it's a lie!
You could give them 100 days and they probably wouldn't read it. They just want the executive summary as written by their aides.
This suggest that this plan,implementation is not going to work.And Hence this is a very absurd plan,and the promises made through this plan are wrong and not going to be work..
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There should be some sort of test involved in the voting on these things. 100 questions taken from it and if you can get 70% correct you can't vote on the bill.
I totally agree with you. That's sad that so many take their roles seriously...
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There should be some sort of test involved in the voting on these things.
You should be forced to eat a copy of any bill you vote for, in 12 pt font.
And no "deeming" it to have been eaten.
And no salt!
I did download the PDF of the health care and educational act, 2010 and I will say my first impressions on it! The e-book is really large for something that is related with an act or acts. It looked more like an encyclopedia to me. Furthermore, they could have added a bit more graphics to the book to have a better ergonomics (Oops!) Anyway I really appreciate them for publishing the book with all the matter contained and overall the book is great with each and everything on it!Senior Alert
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if there's any way to stop this in the courts or states. I have zero faith in the Republicans to fight this for real.
I hope this "healthcare" passes and in its worst incarnation possible. I've got family in another relatively free country, I've been itching to vote with my feet lately and I absolutely adore seeing people teach themselves hard, nasty lessons. Suck it, America.
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God I don't want to read this mess.
Section 1101
(a) 90 days to establish a high risk insurance pool program. How well did managing that whole cash for clunkers work out for you. And now you want to establish an insurance program in 90 days????????????/
(b) (3) States that agree to manage the High risk pool can not reduce the "annual amount the State expended for the operation of" their own high risk pools. No budget cuts for you.
(g) (1) $5 billion set aside to cover yearly losses. Those greedy insurance companies not wanting to lose $5 billion per year
(g) (3) January 1st 2014, coverage in State high risk pools will be terminated. Could have sworn someone said "If you like your current insurance you will get to keep it."
(g) (4) Once projected losses exceed $5 billion, no more applicant accepted to high risk pool. Wait, what? Their going to turn down people with pre-existing conditions if they become to expensive?
Section 1102 Re Insurance for Early Retirees
(a) (1) Federal government reimbursing employment-base plans for covering early retirees. I guess that's one way of limiting the amount of money GM loses by providing health insurance benefits to its' retirees.
"the final provisions [of the health care bill] are going to be posted many days before this thing passes."
1) "Provisions" are, according to Webster, measures taken beforehand to deal with a need or contingency. In this sense, the final provisions have been posted for *years*.
2) Even if you don't buy into (1), they were "going to be posted" *time immemorial*.
3) Even if you don't buy into (2), "this thing passes" refers to the future death of my dog, upon whose photo (on the teleprompter) I was gazing as I uttered the statement.
Continuing to study Obamaese ...
(d) ELIMINATING WAITING PERIOD ASSESSMENT.?
Section 4980H of such Code, as so added and amended and as amended by the preceding subsections, is amended by striking subsection (b) and redesignating subsections (c), (d), and (e) as subsections (b), (c), and (d), respectively.
Well, that was enlightening.
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It's turtles all the way down!
I've never more wanted some honest Congressmen willing to do the right thing and torpedo this monstrosity. Sadly, I don't expect that to happen.
Only liars and fools assert that this example of congressional toxic sausage making will reduce the deficit.
The liars are in congress, the White House and the media, the fools are the ones who believe them.
I'm only 35 pages into the Senate bill so far. I feel so behind! What if they vote before I'm ready?
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Wow, are all of you employed by the RNC?
I for one don't need the details to know the bill should fail. As Reason knows, the premises behind the bill are wrong, and the details are just details of a foolish and abusive plan.
Mark Twain said "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics."
Adding the CBO report to the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010 and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act it is safe to say that we now have examples of all three types.
The move was also thought to give Obama two key victories in overhauling the health care and student loan system. It also eventually became clear that the budget savings caused by the student loan bill would become essential to the overall reconciliation bill by reducing the deficit enough for the overall bill to qualify for the reconciliation process.
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Adding the CBO report to the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010 and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act it is safe to say that we now have examples of all three types.
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So much talk so little action. I wish they just started making our lives better, rather than publishing long documents.
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