Did ABC Fire John Stossel?

The truth about my move to Fox


People keep forwarding me emails and blog posts saying ABC fired me. Internet forums claim I was fired because I aired a story about the downside of government-controlled health care. This is silly. It's not even logical. No one can broadcast anything on 20/20 without ABC's approval.

The truth is that my departure from ABC was by mutual consent.

I left to go to the Fox News Channel and Fox Business Network because I want more time to report on free markets and economic liberty, the kind of reporting I do in this column. With two 24-hour news channels, Fox has more room for that.

Tonight, finally, my new Fox Business show begins! It will air every Thursday at 8 p.m. (and will repeat Fridays at 10 p.m.—opposite 20/20—heh, heh, heh).

My first show will be on the "climate crisis." Or it might be on Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged. I've prepared both shows because I can't decide which I should do.

What do you think?

I'm partial to an Atlas show because I reread the novel recently and was stunned. It was as if Rand had seen the future. Writing half a century ago, she predicted today's explosion of big government in shockingly accurate detail.

The "Preservation of Livelihood Law." The "Equalization of Opportunity Law." The "Steel Unification Plan."

Don't these sound like laws passed by the current Congress?

All were creations of Rand's villain, Wesley Mouch, the evil bureaucrat who regulates business and eventually drives the productive people out of business. Who is today's Wesley Mouch? Barney Frank? Chris Dodd. Tim Geithner? I'll ask my TV audience to vote.

Atlas is still a big bestseller today. This year, it reached as high as NO. 15 on Amazon's bestseller list. Pretty amazing.

Clearly there's some magic in Atlas Shrugged. The Library of Congress once asked readers which books made the biggest difference in their lives. Atlas came in second, after the Bible.

Yet elites and the MSM hate Ayn Rand. When Atlas first came out, The New York Times wrote that "the book is written out of hate."

Maybe that's why no Atlas movie has been made. Angelina Jolie once wanted to play heroine Dagny Taggart, but it never happened. Rand's books still sell millions of copies, yet college "women's studies" courses rarely mention her. One professor says her department head asked, "Why would you study that fascist?"

Why such antipathy?

Rand celebrates business and free markets. The elites don't like business. In every newsroom where I've worked, and at my college, Princeton, capitalism was derided as selfishness.

And lately, as a failure. On one website, someone wrote: "You'd think it was a joke, when the global economy was collapsing because of greed, that anyone might turn seriously to the purple prose of crypto-fascist (!) Ayn Rand and think it was the answer to anything."

Well, I, for one, think her prose answers much.

The embrace of freer markets has lifted more people out of the misery of poverty than any other system—ever. The World Bank says that in just the last 30 years, half a billion people who once lived on less than $1.25 a day have moved out of poverty.

But now, Wesley Mouch—I mean, Congress and the bureaucrats—tell us they are going to "fix" capitalism, as if their previous "fixes" didn't hamstring the free market and create the problems they propose to solve.

Who are they kidding? Rand had it right. She learned it the hard way in Soviet Russia. What makes a country work is leaving people free—free to take risks, to invent things—and to keep the rewards of their work.

Critics say Ayn Rand promotes selfishness. I call it "enlightened self interest." When free people act in their own self-interest, society prospers.

So there's my first show, maybe.

On second thought, with Barack Obama heading to Copenhagen promising America will cut its greenhouse gasses by 83 percent (not 82, not 84—exactly 83), I may do my first show on global warming.

I'll decide tonight—when I begin my new career.

John Stossel is host of Stossel on the Fox Business Network. He's the author of Give Me a Break and of Myth, Lies, and Downright Stupidity.


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  1. Where’s Tubbs?

    1. Seriously, if I lived in New York I’d smoke cigarettes and cigars in front of his face until he was forced to call the cops on me.

      That’s how much his libertarian principles are worth.

      Liberty for me, but not for thee.

      1. You’re the one using the term “freedumb”, which is straight out of George Orwell 101.

      2. How does nobody see that you live under a bridge crayon? Bravo.




      DERP DERP!

      1. STFU Racist Commie

      2. Crayon is an appropriate handle for someone that sounds like an 11 year old child.

        Freaking moron.

  2. What every last person who works for FOX news sounds like: “Blah blah blah Obama Sucks! yadda yadda yadda.”

    If there is a shred of individual in you John, do the Atlas piece.

    1. Cannot remember his name but, there is that one morbidly obese token liberal that they drag out for the split-screen debates. The debates go something like this:

      Ann Colter: “Obama sucks and he hates you!”
      Fat Liberal Dude: “No he doesn’t.”

      Ann: “Does so.”

      Fatty: “Does not.”

      Ann: “Does so.”

      Fatty: “Does not.”

      etc. But I do watch Fox News. If I am gonna get bias either way, I choose bias with hot chicks.

      1. They do hire very hot chicks… And some of them are even smart… making them even MORE hot!

      2. I think the fat lib dude you are referring to is Bob Beckel

      3. Followed by Ann Coulter beating the fatty to death with her 12-inch clit.

        1. Liberals preach about sexism and hate-filled rhetoric… and along comes crayon using both.

      4. Ha ha ha…

        Well, at least you get to hear two side!

        On Rachael Madcow, and Keith Uberman it’s just streaming piss and vinegar.

        but I agree with you. In the end the Fox ladies are hotter than the average news lady. They don’t call it FOX for nothing!

        I miss you Mehgan Kelly! (sniff)

      5. Ann Colter is the best thing to happen to all free people. Fatty, not so much…

        1. Do you enjoy having sex with shemales then, sir?
          Ever been to Bangkok, sir?
          Ever seen two ladyboys engaged in a cockfight, sir?
          Ever seen their proud, erect members glisten in the morning sun, sir?

          1. You seem to know a lot about “shemales”.

            Like I mentioned in a previous post…. You are a freaking moron.

    2. That’s because he sucks. Why beat around the Bush about it?

      1. I agree, he sucks, big time.

        But, the “debates” are not a logical presentation of thoughts and ideas. They are two sides of the screen yelling their talking points at and over each other. This not a Fox specific phenomenon either.

        1. You’re right – I saw the same issue with Crossfire and the Capital Gang in CNN.

          I prefer the format that Glenn Beck created – he does not bring people to debate between each other, he invites people to talk about issues he cares about. To some, this may seem too one-sided, but from an information-conveying point of view, it is much more useful than simply having two contrary views throwing punches at each other.

          And if people want to see the other side, they can always watch The Ed Show, at their peril…

          1. You watch Glenn Beck?
            Wow, you really are a faggot.

            1. Oh, and here I thought lefties did not use such hateful words… that they were “beyond that”.

              1. I have revealed to you today these horrors in a hope that you will see the need for change.

                But always remember: what I have done here today is not a courageous act.

                The courage lies with a man who has the guts to say “No” to a fast food restaurant, and eat a salad instead.

                To say, “I will eat this salad with pride! I don’t care if I look like a gay person!”

                So to all of you salad-eating homosexuals, I say, “Thank you.”

                1. See crayon
                  See him talk
                  See him fly off a tangent
                  So as to avoid flak

                  1. Oh, and you’re an old dirty Mexican faggot pigcunt.

                2. What the fuck you on about, puta maric?n?

                  1. Oh, how quaint – he can write a few words in Spanish.

                    Except that you wrote with the incorrect gender. Guess where??

                    1. No, you’re nothing but a woman.

                    2. I think crayon is the incorect gender…

            2. bigot. examine your motives

            3. Crayon repeatedly makes reference to shemales and faggots. I guess that’s what he knows ……. Moron.

      2. “Does not.”

    3. Ya know… I’ve made this comment before, but apparently it hasn’t sunk in yet: Fox BUSINESS is different from Fox NEWS. Ann Coulter and Bill O’Reilly are on “News”. Stossel is on Business. They have different demographics, and different management.

      1. yep. cavuto runs the business wing.

      2. To expand on that thought, O’Reilly and Coulter do COMMENTARY. Not News. And Coulter does not have a show on FOX. She is a guest contributer.

    4. Whereas the rest of the MSM sounds like: “mmmm mmm mm mmmm…Obama, your cock tastes good…mmm mmmmm mm”

      Though the tide is changing. In recent days, Obama has lost Jon Stewart with him making fun of his ‘weatherization’ as a magical way to create jobs. He also lost Yahoo which was mocking him on their front page with the headline: Cash for Caulkers.

      Obama is now the most unpopular president of the past 70 years at this point in his term. Only 2% of people that voted for Obama did so because of his experience. His complete and total lack of experience is really showing.

    5. You have apparently never watch FOX. If you did you wouldn’t make such ludicrous comments. …. Fool.

  3. Maybe it’s from reading this site, but I have Rand fatigue.

    1. Maybe it’s from reading this site, but I hayve Rand fatigue.


  4. I vote climate crisis. If you’re going to preach to the choir, make it something your former crew refuses to cover. Ayn can wait.

    1. agreed. there’s a lot of shit blowing up right now, but climate gate and the EPA and carbonhagen is pretty big. Start with a bang.

  5. This is silly. No one could broadcast anything on 20/20 without ABC approval.

    Good thing I didn’t perform on 20/20.

  6. Mr. Stossel (if you happen to read this),

    I think that the global warming piece would be more apt at this time as the Rand piece will continue to be relevant once the Copenhagen conference is over. People need to be informed that what the activists are proposing to do in regards to addressing the unproven consequences of AGW will be nothing short of crippling taxation and further restrictions on economic growth. I don’t even believe that those who fully agree with the idea that AGW is the real problem with our environment are ready to accept what restrictions they are proposing.

    1. I concur.

      1. Sounds like the beginnings of a delicious scotch…

    2. What they said.

  7. John Stossel and Mike Rowe should get together and do something. I sense a dovetail here that I can’t quite put my finger on…

    1. That is the best Stossle related idea ev-ar.

  8. I love John Stossel. If only he could change Fox News to a libertarian network.

    1. Ben,

      Not likely, but they do have the Judge and Jonathan Hoenig… The rest of the networks have zilch.

      1. And to a slightly lesser extent, Red Eye w/Greg Gutfeld.

    2. If only he could change any of the news outlets to organizations that actually reported the news. There are very few that aren’t nearly all editorial comment.

    3. But then no onew would watch! OK, let the flames begin

  9. I think John Stossel should follow Howard Roark’s example.




      1. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say, but it saddens me greatly that you advocate architectural violence, especially since 9/11 changed everything.

        1. is this the same crayon that was ranting about gay Beck watching salad eaters?

          Isn’t an affinity for architecture kind of gay? I bet you voted for Rand and a special segment on “The Fountain Head”

          😉 All in jest!

          1. Violence is never the solution.

            1. Tell that to the city fathers of Carthage, Rome, Dresden, Hiroshima, etc.

              1. Well, yeah, but they’re all foreign fags, so fuck ’em.

              2. Maybe I will, Heinlein.

  10. When Atlas first came out, The New York Times wrote that “the book is written out of hate.”

    Anything that is written that does not conform to the politics espoused by the New York Times is going to be labeled as “hateful.”

    That’s how the Statists operate – they don’t use arguments, they use platitudes.

    1. which oddly enough, is remarkably similar to what characters like Bertram Scudder did.

    2. Socialists want to redistribute wealth because they’re loving, therefore if you disagree with them you must be hateful.

      1. Yeah, something like that. There are few people as staunchly manichean as Statists.

        1. Well, objectivists aren’t exactly viewing the world in several shades of grey either.

          1. I’m not an Objectivist, crayon.

            1. Well, I’m not your buddy, pal.

              1. You’re not much of anything, really.

      2. From here:

        Contempt for the masses, not compassion for the poor, motivates the welfare statist, a disciple manqu? of the Gotha Marx. It is from his creation of an “evil” entity — the “greed,” “selfishness,” and “materialism” of all others, of society — that he derives, with his advocacy of redistribution, an opposed “good” identity — his own “social conscience.” For a Michael Moore, the evil of America — of capitalist society — is that it will not “guarantee” free, unlimited medicine for all as a political right, while his own good is to be found right there in his support for such a noble (i.e., paper) proclamation. His position doesn’t come from a focus on the reality (theoretical and empirical) of health care as provided by the market vs. the State, a reality well known in Canada (which didn’t legislate free, unlimited medicine for all, but government control over all areas of medicine) and brilliantly dramatized in the Qu?becois export The Barbarian Invasions, the 2004 Oscar winner for best foreign language film. If the good is to be found in the market — in “civil society,” the explicit enemy from Marx to Chomsky — what is to be gained from setting oneself apart from — above — it?

        1. Are the masses revolting?

  11. I’ll decide tonight?when I begin my new career.

    Well, good luck John – you certainly have chosen a good platform, even if it is still too pro-war for my taste (not that the others weren’t.)

  12. what’s the fox business network? never heard of it.

    1. DEMAND IT!!!

  13. Because this is a new show, and because fans of 20/20 may be inclined to watch, I think John will start off with a lot of viewers who watch out of curiosity. (i.e. He’ll start out with a spike in viewers). So the question is, which topic will hook those viewers? I think Atlas. (But will the climate piece be relavent next week?)

    1. So the question is, which topic will hook those viewers?

      Not Ayn Rand. Go with Climaquiddick, John.

  14. Start with Ayn Rand. It will be a good theme to establish for the rest of your shows. And tonight you will have the most eyes.

    1. Either way, he’ll show the world he’s a 100% lunatic faggot.




      The choice is yours, Mr. Stossel.

      1. LOL!

        Dude! you are all over the place!

        Here! Boo! falling architecture!

        OMFG! too funny!

        1. Einst?rzende Neubauten?
          In my PC?
          It’s more likely than you think.

          1. To crayon..

            STFU, Tony

        2. Now crayon is engaging in Jew-hating. Just like the white supremacist I had to verbally slap around when he tried to run on my party ticket a few years ago.

      2. Do ClimateGate first, and Rand the next time. The timing is absolutely perfect to mock the global warming B.S. right now, what with the Russian-like deep freeze temperatures all across the midwest.

      3. Wow, a homophobe, an anti-semite AND a self-styled “liberal”. You’re just a walking, talking bag of contradictions, aren’t you?

        PS- If you ever have the honor of sucking on this Jewish dick, I’ll be sure to slap you in the face with it after I blow my load down your throat.

        1. What? Ayn Rand wasn’t Jewish now?

        2. “PS- If you ever have the honor of sucking on this Jewish dick, I’ll be sure to slap you in the face with it after I blow my load down your throat”

          Chad – Tony -MNG- Crayon
          Prefers bukkake to Gobbling

  15. Now there’s actually a reason for me to watch Fox News. Too bad I don’t get it. Thanks a lot Fox and Dish.

    1. DEMAND IT!!!

    2. Meh, just watch Stossel on Youtube.

  16. go with the climate change one.

    rope in all the republicans with this and then dope them with a drug decriminalization episode next.

  17. Fox News? Really? Isn’t that anti-libertarian?

    1. It’s a bit more libertarian than MSNBC, NBC, CNN, CBS or ABC. Those guys are worse.

  18. I’d go with Climategate since you can always do Ayn Rand another time. Then again, this will be your first show so maybe Rand would be better to get off on the right foot. Hmmm. I guess I’m not much help. LOL

  19. By the way, I caught Dennis Miller on Bill O’Reilly last night (Wednesday, Dec. 9, 2009) and he nominated Ayn Rand as the Most Interesting Person of the Year!

    1. Dennis sounded very libertarian last night…

  20. Climategate for sure. It’s a timely topic. Controversy = eyeballs so it will probably be better for ratings.


  21. John, everybody is covering Climategate at Fox already – you would just be redundant – unless you have a panel that can disect the issue better than most of the talking heads.

  22. You said, “The World Bank says that in just the last 30 years, half a billion people who once lived on less than $1.25 a day have moved out of poverty.” I would love to have a source for that… any help?

  23. Seriously…

    I’ll repeat this again, just to be clear:

    Stossel = Fox Business

    O’Reilly = Fox News

    …These are DIFFERENT things. Stossel being on Fox Business has no bearing on the tone of Fox News, and neither will/should the news network have much bearing on his show. This whole thread is filled with people acting like Stossel is going to suddenly be associated with Sean Hannity, when his show is not even going to be appearing on the same network.

    Instead, he will be on the network of Neil Cavuto, Alexis Glick, and Dave Ramsey… And a bunch of hot women. It’s a different tone, it’s a different focus, and it’s definitely not anti-libertarian to begin with.

    1. It’s still pro-insane.
      CNBC is better and less inclined to spew political propaganda.

      1. CNBC is better and less inclined to spew political propaganda.

        No, they limit themselves to spewing out Keynesian claptrap.

        1. Have you even watched CNBC?

      2. ha ha, that’s seriously the funniest thing I’ve heard all day… no, seriously.

      3. CNBC, as in, the home of Jim Cramer?

        Yeah… Ok.

      4. CNBC is better and less inclined to spew political propaganda.

        That’s a good one, oh ignorant one. Was your major Animal Husbandry?

  24. And John, if you’re reading (and why would you be since you’re probably wrapping up prep for the show), do the Atlas Shrugged story. I recently re-read it as well and had an identical experience reading all of the ridiculously titled laws and watching Rand’s version of the US unravel as power-brokers in Washington continually destroyed productivity.

  25. “The elites don’t like business.”

    That’s not correct. They love business, as long as it’s theirs and they can get the gubmint to grant them a monopoly so they can make all the money and screw everyone else.

  26. Do the Ayn Rand! I’m going to program my DVR right now!

    I am equally stunned at the parallels of what is going on today and what she wrote in Atlas Shrugged. It’s the best book I have ever read.


  27. John, do the chicken little story first. Also, I saw you on O’Reilly once, and I know you had to kiss some butt to not alienate that blowhard. But, please, as soon as you get a following, and job security, tell that guy to shut the fuck up!

  28. John,
    Given that most Americans suffer from short attention spans (thanks to every child being left behind due to public education) do half of both reports and finish them next week.

  29. I don’t get Fox Business but I do get Fox News, when is his show going to be on Fox News? I can’t wait to see it.

  30. Damn, I don’t get fox business channel.

    1. DEMAND IT!!!

  31. I miss you Mehgan Kelly! (sniff)

    She will appear today on Bill O’Reilly. I already set up my DVR for it… Even though I cannot stand O’Reilly.

  32. People who call Ayn Rand a “fascist” have absolutely no idea what the term even means. It has become sort of a catch-all phrase for anything you consider evil; it is now totally devoid of real meaning.

    “Fascism” means government control of business without actual legal ownership of the means of production. Ownership nominally remains in private hands, but the government actually dictates how it is run. Take a look at GM, AIG, the big banks which took TARP money, etc. Who pulls their strings, openly and without apology? There is indeed a “fascist” running things today, but his name is Obama, not Rand.

    1. Who controls the British Crown?
      Who keeps the metric system down?
      We do, we do.
      Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
      Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
      We do, we do.
      Who holds back the electric car?
      Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
      We do, we do.
      Who robs cave fish of their sight?
      Who rigs every Oscar night?
      We do, we do!

      1. Cute, but what does it mean?

        1. Chad-Tony-MNG-Crayon
          Has been of his meds for 48 hours now.

  33. Oh jesus christ, why does your first show have to be about climate change denialism?

    C’mon, don’t just go all conservative on us – do something that makes Fox squirm. War on drugs, police brutality, the Patriot Act – something you wouldn’t see on Fox otherwise.

  34. The War on Drugs, Patriot Act, etc., will be there next week and next year. The climate change fraud is time-sensitive, with the Copenhagen meetings going on right now. It’s the better choice.

    And you’d better get off that “denialism” kick. We now have proof of what many of us long suspected: the data was doctored, the simplistic “models” predict nothing, and all dissent within the scientific community has been systematically squelched, all in the name of keeping the government subsidies rolling in. Calling this fraud by its true name isn’t “denialism”, but honesty. Try it sometime.

  35. Congrats on your new show. I don’t see it listed on fox. I see the same old Greta, Glenn and O’Reilly. Bummer. I wanted to see it.

    1. It’s on Fox Business News, which is a different channel than Fox News. The topic tonight: Cimate Change, with a guest from the Cato Institue (I don’t recall his name.)

      1. Jerry Taylor (the guy from Cato) is his name.

  36. Why the crap is no one live blogging this?

    Jerry Taylor from CATO just literally bent an audience member over and effed him in the a. (I think the questioner may have been a plant, though.)

  37. What? Now Stossel is bragging about some golf cart he got. Way to rub your success in our faces, John.

  38. Apparently Taylor is a tool of Big Atom.

  39. No, wait, spoke too soon. He’s in the pocket of Big Oil.

  40. Great, now there are three dudes on high chairs. I’m not going to be able to concentrate on anything while I’m worrying that one of them is going to fall off and break his ass.

  41. Damn, John Stossel looks old.

    Well, he’s old, but ABC covered it up better.

    His wrinkles when watched on HDTV makes him look like a botoxed cougar with a mustache.


  42. Now we have a guy who works for Big Sulfur. Freakonomics, indeed.

    1. Yeah, I wanted to beat that arrogant douchebag into a biodegradable pulp.

  43. Ugh, quit talking to the audience, John. Like all studio audiences, they’re idiots.

  44. This guy sees John’s mustache and raises him a goatee.

  45. Oh man, this guy is complaining about acid rain, but Taylor just coughed “loser” while the guy was talking.

  46. Are there no black people in New York City?
    Did John get the studio audience from Minnesota?

    1. You want Somali’s with that?

  47. John Stossel: Puppet of Big Wealth

  48. Wait, wait, I think I saw one black person in the left upper corner.
    Or maybe it was just a shadowy figure in general.

  49. Shadowy figure. Probably someone from Big Carbon, keeping Stossel in line.

    1. Maybe it was Mario from Big Nintendo, teaching the studio audience the joy of libertarian capitalism by collecting gold coins and trippin’ on ‘shrooms.

  50. Good luck John. I plan on watching your show off my DVR

  51. It was natural to hit the AGW topic, given current events, but even more important they hit on a couple of important general concepts that can’t be drilled into people’s heads enough:

    The concept of risk assessment

    That actions, even those with good intentions, have negative consequences that must be taken into consideration

    P.S. That was a lame studio audience. Hopefully that’ll improve as the show goes along.

    P.S.S. I loved how the schmuck who sold Stossel the golf cart refused to acknowledge that electricity is not magically conjured out of thin air

    1. Dude, where can I get one of those electric cars to exactly match the tax credit?

      A. How long do I have to keep it?
      B. F it. It won’t leave my garage, and as soon as I can turn around and sell it. Done. Even if I don’t get all of my money back, it’ll make more in one transaction than the interest on my 6-months salary emergency fund sitting in a money market account.

      So f’ing stupid… I might as well get some.

  52. Firstly, Congratulations Mr Stossel on getting your own show! You’re a great presenter of libertarian ideas and many of us appreciate the good work you do!

    Secondly, why are so many of my fellow commenter pouring so much hate on Fox here? Sure they’re bias and have many flat-out insane commentators but they’re giving one of our own a show!

  53. Wow somebody on a major tv station explained that current poverty death dwarfs projected global warming death. Thank you John. And thank you in advance for making conservatives squirm in the future as much as you made progressives squirm tonight.

  54. Wow somebody on a major tv station explained that current poverty death dwarfs projected global warming death. Thank you John. And thank you in advance for making conservatives squirm in the future as much as you made progressives squirm tonight.

  55. Important news update: “crayon” works for ACORN. And has HIV. And H1N1. Run for your lives.

  56. Dude, where can I get one of those electric cars to exactly match the tax credit?

    A. How long do I have to keep it?
    B. F it. It won’t leave my garage, and as soon as I can turn around and sell it. Done. Even if I don’t get all of my money back, it’ll make more in one transaction than the interest on my 6-months salary emergency fund sitting in a money market account.

    So f’ing stupid… I might as well get some.

  57. Joke Stossel Christmas Warrior

  58. To see Joke Stossel obediently making a fool of himself to earn his paycheck. Follow the link above.
    What a pathetic tool.

  59. Libertarians? Free thinkers?

    Those of you swallowing Coulter’s and Fox’s bias and decrying the bias of Maddow and Olbermann are no better or worse than the “libs” you claim to loathe.

    Basing where you get your news based on how “hot” the announcers are? Really? What, did your mental development peak during fraternity rush-month?

    Maybe do what anyone looking for unbiased news does – turn off the tv. Read. Seek out multiple angles on every story.

    Lately it’s hard to discern who is a true Libertarian, and who is a Republican trying to re-brand themselves because they’re ashamed of their own party.

    1. Are you implying that to be “a true Libertarian” one must follow your example?

  60. Could be that Congress got their ideas from Ayn and others like her? I guess you could call her prophetic or just inventive and avant-garde like Jules Verne and H. G. Wells. It’s so interesting to see the prototype of a CD in the library of “The Time Machine” movie.

  61. My only point is that if you take the Bible straight, as I’m sure many of Reasons readers do, you will see a lot of the Old Testament stuff as absolutely insane. Even some cursory knowledge of Hebrew and doing some mathematics and logic will tell you that you really won’t get the full deal by just doing regular skill english reading for those books. In other words, there’s more to the books of the Bible than most will ever grasp. I’m not concerned that Mr. Crumb will go to hell or anything crazy like that! It’s just that he, like many types of religionists, seems to take it literally, take it straight…the Bible’s books were not written by straight laced divinity students in 3 piece suits who white wash religious beliefs as if God made them with clothes on…the Bible’s books were written by people with very different mindsets

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