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Obama Hopes No One Realizes a Long-Winded Question-Dodge is Still, In Fact, a Dodge

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Obama's prime-time health-care press conference tonight only lasted an hour, but it felt longer than a double screening of Gone With the Wind next to a date you're planning on dumping the minute it's over. But Obama rambled on and, like Rhett Butler, just didn't seem to give a damn whether or not anybody else cared.

Of course, the long-winded responses seemed to be part of strategy. According to the American Spectator's Phil Klein, he answered only ten questions during the hour—or, perhaps more accurately, he responded to only ten. Obama seems to have decided ahead of time that when faced with an uncomfortable question, the best idea is to grind away at tangentially related statistics, anecdotes, and talking points until everyone's forgotten what the actual question was anyway. Faced with a number of unpleasant facts about his administration's lack of transparency, for example, Obama did a little dance, sang a song, performed a magic trick, and then said "next question." Well, not really, but the dodging, non-answer he did give was roughly as useful as if he had.

Meanwhile, much of what he did say—particularly about the deficit—was rather suspicious. Over at the Spectator, Phil Klein even goes so far as to call Obama a liar. We'll see tomorrow when the transcripts come out. In the meantime, the truly dedicated can waste bandwidth watching the President's Festival of Dull in stuttering streaming video form here.

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  1. Just as a note, Mr. Suderman, that comment that Klein discusses in the piece is already available on YouTube. Man, I love 21st Century America.

  2. Does this Obama guy not realize he already won the election? He seems to be stuck in campaign mode. He needs to realize that he doesn’t need to try so hard in addressing the nation.

  3. ‘a double screening of Gone With the Wind’

    Racist! Denigrating our First Black President by comparing him to a racist movie!

    You might as well say that President Obama don’t know nothin’ about birthin’ no federal health-care policy.

    Do you reactionary racists have no shame?

  4. ‘next to a date you’re planning on dumping the minute it’s over.’

    Sexist! Maybe she’s just tired of listening to your jokes, you . . . you *man.* I hope she takes you for everything you’ve got.

  5. ‘Obama did a little dance, sang a song’

    Oh, so all black people have rhythm, right? They just sing and dance for your entertainment? You honkies make me sick.

  6. anyway, suggesting that doctors are performing superfluous surgeries for cash is not only disingenuous, but it turns the patient into a mewling kitten of helplessness rather than someone willing to say “I want a second opinion”. Why isn’t the debate framed in the context of asserting that you want to try something lower-cost first?

  7. A few months ago I rather flippantly predicted that Obama would be a one term President. To my surprise that might actually be more probable than I ever would have guessed.

    TAO,

    One thing that Presidents do not have any more is the ability to dominate the discourse by simply demanding time on a few TV networks and the radio.

  8. “Obama Hopes No One Realizes a Long-Winded Question-Dodge is Still, In Fact, a Dodge”

    Oh, so THAT’S what he meant by the “Audacity of Hope”!

  9. “A few months ago I rather flippantly predicted that Obama would be a one term President. To my surprise that might actually be more probable than I ever would have guessed.”

    Hopefully, he can be reduced to a 1/2 term President if he can be effectively neutered by a GOP takeover of Congress in 2010.

    Now that’s MY kind of “Audacity of Hope”.

  10. My namesake would most assuredly not be happy with being associated with BO. Being a pragmatic man who doesn’t fear being ostracized or seek approval he would detest BO. Although the love of the Obamites (lil Rhetts) for Obama (Scarlet) and what is slowly becoming their scorn as they realize what a shit stain he is is quite the analogy. Then again he was fictional, but what a kool fucking name.

    I watched some of it. I can only take so much bullshit before watching the lifetime channel or HSN looks more appealing.

  11. Coincidentally, this morning I called my insurance company and asked what kind of protection I can get against my country moving toward fascism. They said “none.” I asked why not. Their reply: pre-existing condition.

    Ba-dum-tsh

  12. ? Do a little dance, sing a little song, get down tonight! ?

  13. At least Richard Attenborough’s Gandhi had an intermission.

  14. 1. How much is this gonna cost now?
    2. How much did this speech cost?
    3. What I wouldn’t have given for a heckler like Russ Carnahan got earlier this week.
    4. Can someone appoint a Court Jester Czar here? Obama needs to be distracted by someone with jangly bells on their pointy shoes, reminding him he is but a mere mortal.
    5. Is red meat outlawed yet? I needs me a steak. And steak is bad for you. Government says so.

  15. So was it a little “Shuck and Jive” or more of a “Bamboozle”?

  16. I wish people would just shut the fuck up about the next presidential election. The last campaign lasted 4 excruciating years. I don’t want to hear shit until post congressional races 2010. Anyone who violates my policy will be forced to give me a lap dance on Fremont Street…. shit…er … I mean will be forced to get me a lap dance of Freemont Street.

  17. I really am stunned, though, Troy, at how ineffectual the President is. Perhaps he (like me) almost feels bad about arm-twisting?

  18. What a bunch of cowardly bums you guys are. When Israel did “Operation CastLead” there were comments from anti-Semites all over in here, plus a carton about me; when Iran is slaughtering its people, there is nothing but silence from clowns at Hit and Run.

    What’s the matter? Will pointing out Achmadinijad’s atrocities, such as Basjis’s raping imprisoned Iranian women so they can be executed, take attention away from the phony atrocities of the zionist entity?

    Swine!

  19. P.S. I appreciate your cute little trick of putting my videos in a bondage and discipline website: http://www.bondagefilmpjes.nl/watch-video/kkZSf6rlhZw/underzog/peaceniks-unhinged-language-caution.html

    You guys are the only ones imitating my name and you creeps placed my videos on that b & d website.

    This is the Reason with which you deal with your opponents.

  20. One reason it was so boring is that it was contentless. A monotone lecture would have been more interesting, if it contained a lot of pertinent facts that I did not know. Much more.

  21. A few months ago I rather flippantly predicted that Obama would be a one term President.

    Can we get rid of The Obama after one term? Say it with me now:

    Yes we can!

  22. Underzoggy, if some mullah troll was constantly misrepresenting libertarian positions, showing up calling all libertarians gay zionists, who support Israel while Israelis murdered Palestinians and other muslims, you can bet there’d be a “carton” of him, too. Because he’d be as much of a dumb fuck as yourself.

    But you know this already, so why don’t you ooze back under your rock.

  23. Um, that would be “Do a little dance/make a little love/get down tonight.”

  24. Um, that would be “Do a little dance/make a little love/get down tonight.”

    Hey, give me a break – I’m only half black, bro.

  25. Didn’t Nixon do something similar to this whole dodging questions by rambling on about tangentially related issues until no one gave a flying fuck what he was even trying to say anymore? It really doesn’t surprise me that Obama would be stooping to Nixonesque tactics this soon in his already seemingly too long presidency…

  26. I couldn’t even finish watching the damn thing. Once he said that Medicare was broke, so we need to make it available to everyone (not in those exact words) I couldn’t handle it. I made it to the second “answer” before my bullshit radar was ’bout ready to explode.

    I’m half tempted to just say “fuck it” and let the liberals impose their so-called reform. Then, when it fails, I could say “told ya so” and then we could get down to some real reform (less gov’t). But, there is no way they would ever admit fault. And, even if they did, not enough government would be the prognosis.

    Sometimes it is just baffling how this man was elected.

  27. Sometimes it is just baffling how this man was elected.

    He’s born of the union of a Marxist female and a non-American African, and raised in Indonesia as a Muslim. If you hate classical liberalism and anything America was before 1965, then there is nothing more you have to know about this candidate.

  28. Baked Penquin: Underzoggy, if some mullah troll was constantly misrepresenting libertarian positions, showing up calling all libertarians gay zionists, who support Israel while Israelis murdered Palestinians and other muslims, you can bet there’d be a “carton” of him, too. Because he’d be as much of a dumb fuck as yourself.

    Whatever Baked Penquin. At least I’m not so stupid as you are in your latest cartoon of me where you claim that I claim that Arabs are killing Arabs whereas, in actuality, the Iranians are not Arabs at all.

    You’re the dumb f… (read without the ellipses) — not me! Learn something about the Middle East and your phony Pali playmates: History and Geography of Israel and Palestine

  29. Um, Underzog, don’t you think that’s kind of meta? BP makes fun of you by having a depiction of you say the Iranians are Arabs and you attribute that to actual ignorance on his part? Of course, if you are really a sockpuppet then that means that a character your creator made is complaining about the intellect of the person who made a satire of you.

  30. I would hazard a guess that Obama’s difficulty in selling the proposition that the federal government can fix the health care problems that it has caused, while helping the economy in the process, stems from the fact that it’s unmitigated hogwash.

    If we want affordable health care, we should deregulate insurance, end the AMA’s ability to limit the number of people entering the profession, and roll back the FDA’s role to policing whether a tablet labeled “ibuprofen” actually contains ibuprofen and not chalk mixed with uranium oxide.

    -jcr

  31. It really doesn’t surprise me that Obama would be stooping to Nixonesque tactics this soon in his already seemingly too long presidency…

    Hey, it worked for Clinton, didn’t it?

    -jcr

  32. He’s born of the union of a Marxist female and a non-American African, and raised in Indonesia as a Muslim.

    So, you contend that people are pinkos genetically?

    Sorry, I know far too many counter-examples to take you seriously.

    -jcr

  33. Sometimes it is just baffling how this man was elected.

    He’s elected because the Powers that Be amongst the democrats and the press were stupid enough to think we’d settle for Hillary Clinton, and he was the last guy standing when she crashed her campaign in a fireball of bitchitude.

    The dems could have nominated a ham sandwich, and it would have beat whoever the republicans put up after GWB.

    -jcr

  34. 4. Can someone appoint a Court Jester Czar here? Obama needs to be distracted by someone with jangly bells on their pointy shoes, reminding him he is but a mere mortal.

    Hmmm…intriguing.

  35. This is the Reason with which you deal with your opponents.

    You’re not an opponent, zoggy. You’re low-budget comic relief.

    -jcr

  36. Can someone appoint a Court Jester Czar here?

    Isn’t that Talky Joe’s job?

    -jcr

  37. So, you contend that people are pinkos genetically?

    Because that’s obviously what I said and meant and not a way to deflect the facts for some unstated purpose.

  38. “Obama would be a one term President”

    I think he might just get pissed off enough if he doesn’t get his way that he’ll just quit and take Michelle Antoinette & the girls off to France where they can forever shop in spendor without having to listen to all those fucking American ingrates bitch and moan.

    Okay, that’s what I hope anyway.

  39. Why isn’t the debate framed in the context of asserting that you want to try something lower-cost first?

    Because that’s not what he’s debating.

    And that is enough to scald the balls of a brass monkey.

  40. Hopefully, he can be reduced to a 1/2 term President if he can be effectively neutered by a GOP takeover of Congress in 2010.

    The closest to that you’re going to see is a surge of the so-called Blue Dog Democrats. Boy the media makes them sound like a rough and tough bunch.

    I for one am afraid. Very afraid.

  41. ….and roll back the FDA’s role to policing whether a tablet labeled “ibuprofen”….

    can safely be carried around in your crotch.

    You never know what those evil drug companies might do to your crotch, given the chance.

  42. Read Obama’s “tonsil” remark. Wow, politely calling doctors amoral scoundrels who disregard their Hippocratic oath and put their patients at risk in order to pick up a few bucks? That has gotta cause some cognitive dissonance for all those doctors who voted for Obama (I’m guessing he picked up 40% of so of that demographic.)

  43. Hopefully, he can be reduced to a 1/2 term President if he can be effectively neutered by a GOP takeover of Congress in 2010.

    Well, a GOP takeover of the House, anyway. Considering that only 1/3 of the Senate is up for election every two years, and some of those seats are in diehard Blue states, it would take an electoral blowout of historic proportions for the D’s to lose a net 11 seats in the Senate in 2010.

    Short of a YouTube video showing Obama gleefully drowning puppies (after first sodomizing them), I think it would take more than two years for enough of those dewy-eyed new Obama voters to have their hopes so cruelly dashed that they switch to The Other Statist Party and hand over control of the Senate.

  44. it would take an electoral blowout of historic proportions for the D’s to lose a net 11 seats in the Senate in 2010.

    In fact, according to this:

    U.S. Senate seats up in 2010

    to lose control of the Senate, the Democrats would have to go 0/19 on the seats held by Republicans, lose all of the 9 marginally tossup to light blue states, AND lose at least 2 of these diehard Blue states:

    Hawaii
    California
    New York
    Illinois
    Maryland
    Connecticut

  45. “tonsil” remark

    And don’t remember: the doctors are being incentivized by current government-mandated rates, so new ones must be the answer.

  46. This was the Obama Waterloo? I watched for five minutes waiting for the Old Guard (Ted Kennedy) to charge but got some guy yammering on – and on – and on – and on.

    Worst. Waterloo. Ever.

  47. You’re low-budget comic relief.

    Spot fucking on.

  48. Prol, Dodd is in a close race and Illinois won’t have an incumbent Democrat. New York might have a bloody primary and California voters will still be in a foul mood. I certainly wouldn’t wager on the GOP, but if the Dems get everything they want and the bottom falls out, it could happen.

  49. You can have any color president you want, as long as it’s black.

  50. I think he might just get pissed off enough if he doesn’t get his way that he’ll just quit

    Frankly, i’d like to see a lot more politicians follow Sarah Palin’s example.

  51. to lose control of the Senate, the Democrats would have to go 0/19 on the seats held by Republicans, lose all of the 9 marginally tossup to light blue states, AND lose at least 2 of these diehard Blue states:

    Hawaii
    California
    New York
    Illinois
    Maryland
    Connecticut

    Illinois actually may not be too much of a stretch in 2010. A pretty popular moderate republican entered the race, and he’s getting a lot of positive talk up and down state. We still got a year and a few months to go, but he’s been pretty heavily vetted and the most popular Dem for the seat recently announced she’s pursuing a third term as Attorney General.

    Also, remember that the seat up for election is the one currently occupied by the guy who bought BO’s seat–meaning, voters are going to be reminded of how corrupt the Dems in Illinois are constantly throughout this election just by knowing which seat is up for vote.

  52. Even if I’m low comic relief, I can’t compete with you Libertarian crazies who run for office such as this man: Libertarian candidate turns blue from drinking silver solution

  53. Yep, ‘zog, we’re all crazy, juuuust like that guy who drank the silver solution. Not a nickel’s worth of difference, all insane down to the last one of us.

    BTW, how do I join the Zionists? Do they have a health plan, 401k, and other neat bennies? Will I get to meet Hank Kissinger if I join?

    OTOH, do they have those zany, painful hazing rituals where I’d have to say “thank you sir, may I have another?” as they swat my ass with a huge wooden paddle? Because I’m not into that sort of thing.

  54. Henry Ford | July 23, 2009, 8:44am | #

    Nice. I would like to see this metaphor extended to painful lengths. I enjoy seeing things like gymnasts and bigots tied up in knots and frothing (you haven’t been truly rock hard until a pretzeled gymnast gives up a little foam).

  55. Perhaps he (like me) almost feels bad about arm-twisting?

    He came up in the Chicago machine, he’s surrounded by Chicago machine thugs, two of his early electoral opponents were taken out be illegal leaks of confidential court documents. He is a disciple of “ends justify the means” Alinsky.

    No, I don’t think he feels bad about it at all.

  56. Mr. Obama is in a bad way, strategically. His so-called “allies” in Congress, striving to save their own necks, want him to be more forthcoming regarding his plan for healthcare “reform.” But he doesn’t actually have a plan. So he addresses a national audience in prime time and comes off looking unusually tentative and ill-prepared.

    The bloom is off the rose. The honeymoon is over. The obedient left is getting nervous.
    Sarah Palin jokes can take you only so far.

  57. Libertarian Guy: Yep, ‘zog, we’re all crazy, juuuust like that guy who drank the silver solution. Not a nickel’s worth of difference, all insane down to the last one of us.I am quoting from memory, but I think I still remember the gist of the quote, the virtue of Libertarianism is its amazing diversity. Only Libertarianism can unite Priests, monogamist, and family men with those into what is called rational bestiality. Only Libertarianism can include the homosexual motorcycle gang and the acid dropper interested in the price of silver.

    (what I remember from a Walter Block quote).

    To which Peter Schwartz responds, one can hardly comment on the above incredible sentence except to express wholehearted concurrence. Only Libertarianism can unite such a diverse group of brainless people who believe in dispensing with reason in life.

    Again, I’m quoting Peter Schwartz from memory, but I think that is the gist of his quote, too.

    Yup! You guys are crazies!

  58. Thank God I was at a hotel last night so I had cable. Even then I had to flip past FoxNews, CNN, Headline News, CNBC, and BET (?!) coverage of the snoozer.

    Luckily this led me to Fight Club on AMC, so it wasn’t all bad. I definitely chuckled at Tyler Durden’s assertion that our generation has no great war or great depression. Oh for simpler times.

  59. Hasn’t Obama admitted to not really knowing what was in the healthcare bill? He only seems to state what “Teh Administration” is promoting without actually knowing if that’s actually what’s in the legislation.

  60. “You can have any color president you want, as long as it’s black.”

    Don’t you mean two-toned?

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