John Edwards

The Open Society Must Be Wiped Off the Map!

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Good catch by Atrios, digging into William "Catholic League" Donohue's long statement on l'affaire John Edwards.

[H]is goal is to loot the pockets of the Soros/Hollywood gang, and they—like him—aren't offended by anti-Catholicism. Indeed, they thrive on it.

Um. What? Quick, identify what George Soros and much of Hollywood have in common.

1) They're Jewish.
2) They have money.
3) …

Really, what else is there? Yes, they're both liberal, but wouldn't make more sense to say John Edwards is sucking up to Hollywood and trial lawyers? That'd be more accurate, since Soros has never donated to Edwards.

I know I stuck up for Wesley Clark when he said "New York money people" were agitating for war with Iran, but that's a thorny foreign policy debate—you have to torture what Clark said to get "rich Jews control the world behind the scenes." You don't have to torture what Donohue said, since he's previously said "Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular." It's pretty clear, except for that bit about the Soroses and Katzenbergs "thriving" on anti-Catholicism. Do they exclusively cook Catholic babies for the Passover feast?

UPDATE: And I think the media just stopped caring about this.

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  1. Mr. Weigel;

    I think you exaggerate. The accusation of anti-semitism you send rests on a very, very slim basis.

  2. No big deal, David. It’s your inconsistency that makes us love you so much!

  3. “Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. It’s not a secret, okay?”

    – Totally Not Anti-Semitic So Stop Saying That, OK? Bill Donohue

    Wesley Clark doesn’t make a habit of accusing Jews of manipulating our foreign policy. Bill Donohue absolutely makes a habit of saying that Hollywood Jews are using their clout to attack Christians.

  4. he’s just jealous cause they not only killed jesus but get to bitch about the holocaust too.

  5. Generally speaking, Hit & Run has the “official” blogosphere’s most amusing take on the news, but I’m afraid the Plank has you cold on the Anna Nicole story.

  6. I just hope we get a week of Anna Nicole tributes on all the networks. If only there were some indication that something was wrong. Goodbye Anna, we’ll miss you. Our culture is diminished without you. We’ll just have to try and find the courage to go on, from somewhere.

  7. The Israeli lobby jumps over a thoughtful book by Carter, why aren’t they calling for this Catholic putz’s head?

  8. I was raised catholic….jews hate me???

    I guess you learn something every day.

    I mean i don’t hate jews…there bible is fucked up…but hell, except Jefferson’s, so is every one else’s.

  9. he’s just jealous cause they not only killed jesus

    it was the italians who did it.

  10. 1. Soros is anti-Catholic. If he mocked Judiasm in the way he mocks Catholicism, then he would be denounced as anti-Semitic (and rightly so). I don’t know if it is fair to say that he “thrives” on anti-Catholicism, but he certainly does take advantage of a prevailing double standard in our society.

    2. William Donohue is a jerk. there may be an anti-Catholic bias in “Hollywood,” but ppl like Soros and Gibson have poisoned the well so badly that any anti-Catholic bias in Hollywood is better left unexplored and/or unmentioned. Add to that the fact that Hollywood (Jewish and non-Jewish portions alike) have a legit gripe with Catholicism for its semi-clandestine involvement in the private ratings boards anyway.

  11. At this point, I think to avoid confusion we should just merge the comments on the Donohue thing and the Anna Nicole thing into one big happy comment thread.

  12. –but ppl like Donohue and Gibson have poisoned the well–

    duh on me

  13. “UPDATE: And I think the media just stopped caring about this.”

    So have we all, so why not follow Tim Cavanaugh’s lead and disappear?

  14. OK, here is what happened the government hired William Donohue to kill her because she was debasing the moral standards of the country and was dating a jew (one who was NOT a neocon, neocon Jews are cool). So William Donohue poisoned her by putting thallium in her coctail at that casino.

  15. 3) … How does Soros feel about anal sex?

  16. “3) … How does Soros feel about anal sex?”

    He’s pretty torn up over it.

  17. So, what does anti-Catholicism mean exactly? That you don’t agree with Catholic doctrine or ideology?

  18. If he mocked Judiasm in the way he mocks Catholicism, then he would be denounced as anti-Semitic (and rightly so).

    Well, no, he’d be anti-Judaism. Which is not the same thing as anti-semitic.

  19. I know I stuck up for Wesley Clark when he said “New York money people” were agitating for war with Iran, but that’s a thorny foreign policy debate – you have to torture what Clark said to get “rich Jews control the world behind the scenes.”

    It’s a lot less tortuous when you don’t leave out the part where Clark calls them “pro-Israel.”

    Not that I think Clark is an anti-semite, just an idiot. Cf. Biden and racism.

    But it’s not as if you need to explain to us why it’s ok to call Donohue on anti-semitism but not Wesley Clark — we know none of your lefty friends will accuse you of being pro-Bush for taking a stand on the former.

  20. Wesley Clark doesn’t make a habit of accusing Jews of manipulating our foreign policy.

    Well not all jews and not a habit…but at least once and specifically New York jews.

    Sorry for killing one of your heroes joe.

  21. If he mocked Judiasm in the way he mocks Catholicism, then he would be denounced as anti-Semitic (and rightly so).

    Well, no, he’d be anti-Judaism. Which is not the same thing as anti-semitic.

    In common parlance, yes it is.

    I understand about Semites (sp?) being all people, of whatever religion, from a certain part of the world. However, that is not how ppl use the word anti-semitic in modernday North America.

  22. What open society is it that must be wiped off the map? And who has the roll of Bounty and the 409?

  23. The Israeli lobby jumps over a thoughtful book by Carter, why aren’t they calling for this Catholic putz’s head?
    Give me a break….Carter’s rotten
    little book is “thoughtful?”

  24. TWC,
    If you are not being sarcastic, that’d be George Soros’ Open Society Institute. If you were being sarcastic, sorry but my humor meter is broken today.

  25. Isn’t the truth probably just that Soros is a well-known name, widely hated on the right, and thus gets his name dragged into debates with which he has little to do and his position on issues caricatured, like such other hate-figures, past and present, as Richard Nixon, Jane Fonda, Newt Gingrich, Hillary Clinton, John Ashcroft, Ann Coulter, Rick Santorum, Markos Moulitsas, etc.? I used to not even know he was Jewish until his defenders started saying criticism of him was anti-Semitic.

  26. Yeah, he makes a good Goldstein. Vaguely european and bad for some reason. Like Dracula, or Dr. Evil.

  27. Thank you Bill Donahue. We need more like him.

  28. “New York money people?” The only thing Gen. Clark meant by that remark was that rich people in New York support Israel and, hence, care more about Iran than do rich people in, say, Peoria. Nobody associates rich, pro-Israel New Yorkers with Jews.

  29. Never in my 23 years have I stuck up for anyone or anything Catholic, but here goes:

    Even if Donahue means “Jews” when he says “big money hollywood people”, it doesn’t neccessarily follow that he is prejuidiced against the jewish religion or the hebrew race. Is the time we spend reading inferences into (allegedly) racist undertones in people’s speech really justified? In this case, I think not. The only thing we achieve by doing this is creating an ever-widening circle of topics and themes that can’t be brought up (or can’t be brought up in conjunction with one another). Talk about a waste of time. It’s not like we’re narrowly averting a second holocaust by playing pedantic hairsplitting games like this.

  30. Hollywood power brokers, no matter what their original background, are anti-religious in general. I don’t believe they discriminate. Unless it’s a trendy religion.

  31. matt,

    So we’re not supposed to discuss the comment because it means that it will keep us from brining up other topics? Is that a fair characterization of your comment?

  32. Donahue has a problem with Jews just like ole’ Mel. Nuff said really.

  33. David Wiegel, partisan “progressive”, squirted out the following highly-nuanced bullshit:

    Um. What? Quick, identify what George Soros and much of Hollywood have in common.

    1) They’re Jewish.
    2) They have money.
    3) …

    Really, what else is there?

    3) They hate the pig Bush
    4) They hate Republicans
    5) They hate conservatives
    6) They hate Christians
    7) They hate individuaism
    8) They hate capitalism

    Wiegel, you’ve hit a new low for stupidity, particularly since Jew-bashing is the new hip activity among “progressive” blogs that you seem to like so much. (Here is where the excruciatingly-nuanced “anti-Israel is not anti-Semite!” comment comes out … it’s starting to sound like “dissent is patriotic!” and “fake but accurate!”.)

  34. Kwix, thanks, I didn’t make the connection.

    Loundry, you forgot one,

    9.) They vote Democrat

    For the record, I don’t think much of Hollywood neither and I fully support Israel’s right to exist.

  35. Grotius,
    Of course we’re free to discuss whatever we want, but why choose this? It’s not like we’re on the brink of learning anything.

  36. joshua corning,

    You and your discredited fellow-travellers couldn’t play a decent race card if your life depended on it, and your star has fallen so far you couldn’t even cast a shadow on someone like Wesley Clark.

    You don’t get to “kill” anyone anymore. You’re irrelevant, and your shtick of calling everyone anti-semitic is too transparent for anyone outside of your own wound-licking circles to view with anything but contempt.

  37. You don’t get to “kill” anyone anymore. You’re irrelevant, and your shtick of calling everyone anti-semitic is too transparent for anyone outside of your own wound-licking circles to view with anything but contempt.

    Actually I don’t think Clark is a an anti-Semite…i think he is an idiot…but he doesn’t hate Jews…the problem is that if Clark where held to your standards of who is a racist and who is an anti-Semite then he would be a one in your little red book.

  38. You and your discredited fellow-travellers couldn’t play a decent race card if your life depended on it, and your star has fallen so far you couldn’t even cast a shadow on someone like Wesley Clark.

    You don’t get to “kill” anyone anymore. You’re irrelevant, and your shtick of calling everyone anti-semitic is too transparent for anyone outside of your own wound-licking circles to view with anything but contempt.

    That was sooo gay.

  39. the problem is that if Clark where held to your standards of who is a racist and who is an anti-Semite then he would be a one in your little red book
    =================================
    As time passes, I become more and more disinterested in this topic, but that was an excellent Mao reference.

  40. Being anti-semitic is bad??

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