Another Grim Reminder Why It Is Always Dangerous to Call the Cops

It's a crummy lesson, alas crummy police officers keep teaching it. Circulating around social networks this week--the first person account was written by a friend of a friend of mine--is this grim (and long) tale from Medium.com.

It's about how when Peretz Partensky called 911 when he stumbled across an injured biker on a San Francisco street, it led to him being shoved, tackled, kneed in the temple, having an existing elbow injury exacerbated, cuffed face down on the street, his hands stomped on, arrested, told he "was going to be a problem," denied medical attention, stripped and shoved into solitary confinement, then let out the next day. When he went to court he had his charges summarily dismissed.

Thomas Hawk / Foter / CC BY-NCThomas Hawk / Foter / CC BY-NC

Excerpts:

After 12 hours in jail, more than 6 of them in solitary confinement, the process of checking out was unremarkable. I signed a few papers. Retrieved my backpack. Confirmed the contents — laptop, wallet, phone, books and keys.

“The charges will be dropped if you show up on Tuesday. If you don’t show up, there will be a warrant for your arrest,” I was casually informed.

“Deputy, should I have been here in the first place?”

“No”

It was almost too good to hear. “Then why did I end up here?”

“You have to consider the source.” This phrase I remember verbatim.

“How do you mean?”

“I mean, there are a lot of young cops on the street, trying to make a name for themselves.”.....

Officer Kaur’s unnecessary escalation of a peaceful situation, culminating in the sadistic stomping on my cuffed hands is a severe professional failure that reflects poorly on the San Francisco Police Department. It does not surprise me that she and several of the other officers I encountered that night are currently in the middle of a lawsuit.....

I painstakingly retrieved all possible documentation, including: the police report, transcript of radio chatter, audio of my 911 call, security footage from Radius restaurant (handed to me freely by the owner), Rebecca’s and Josh’s feedback, and collected photos from the incident and my injuries.

I presented all of this to the SF Office of Citizen Complaints. The filing party is not allowed to know the outcome due to the Public Safety Officers Procedural Bill of Rights (POBAR) but may be notified if an internal investigation is initiated. Many months have passed since my complaint, and I have no sense of progress....

 I conclude with several public service announcements:

  • Don’t call 911. Obviously, there are exceptions, but the sad lesson is, there are fewer than you’d think.
  • Call Lyft to take you to the hospital. (Worked well when I broke my elbow.)
  • Take such incidents to trial, where justice isn’t veiled by the POBAR. It’s not a matter of litigious vindictiveness. It’s just the only available way. The SF Office of Citizen Complaints is not a valid alternative.
  • Consider wearing a video camera at all times. It has been shown that when police wear cameras and are aware of being filmed, it moderates their behavior. As self reports of the need to use force decrease, so do complaints.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...a severe professional failure that reflects poorly on the San Francisco Police Department.

    And they feel terrible about it.

  • SweatingGin||

    The whole story is worth reading. It could be about half the length and get the point across, but it's worth reading.

    It's a hell of a travesty that they pulled off there.

  • JeremyR||

    I dunno. It is, and yet...in this case, a rich technocrat gets to understand what it's like to be poor in this country.

  • SweatingGin||

    That, but IIRC from this morning, there was even a suggestion that class warfare was part of the reason he got arrested. This SF class warfare thing that the progs are trying to start is scaring the crap out of me (I'm a techie, but nowhere near there).

  • JW||

    I read the entire thing and while I was becoming incensed while I read it, I couldn't help but think about educational comeuppance.

    While I'm sorry that he had to go through this ordeal, no one should have to, I fear that many, many more people will have to go through this, people who perpetuated this system through their vote, get a taste of what they've nurtured by their compliance and deferrence to the status quo.

    It's not going to get any better until "normal" people, with their heads plugged firmly in their asses in blissful, happy ignorance, receive this education.

  • ceanf||

    no its not going to be 'normal' until people start putting holes in these pigs for their transgressions. because all the 'good' cops i hear about are too concerned about keeping their job to do a fucking thing about it. and that almost makes them deserve a hole as well. its people like you that wonder why people clap and cheer when a pig gets shot. this is why.

  • Harvard||

    Can I hear an "Amen" for ole JW?

  • GILMORE||

    So "cop killer" here is the same as "bleeding heart" below.

    Trolls = the quality seems to be declining. Have we killed all the *good ones* already?

    I honestly believe these people take the Libertarian Reduction To Absurdity Stance as some kind of tactic, and think that (hopefully?) readers will maybe recoil from it. I sometimes suspect 'Merican-racist is on the same tip. Well, ok, no: he's sincere. But others who ape his style I think are puppets, sometimes.

  • Archie Bunker||

    How can you say something so fucking patronizing? A good citizen, trying to do the right thing by his fellow humans gets his rights violated by a brutal, totalitarian, would-be peace keeper, and the best you can muster is a disparaging comment with regards to his professional standing?

    He even states in his article that he was a gov't contractor in Afghanistan so I'm pretty sure he knows how shitty people have it in poorer countries.

    I try not to go off on people in forums, but holy shit, your comment really rubbed me the wrong way.

  • thoreu||

    While anything is possible, this story contains too much spin in it to be totally accurate. It was decent of the caller to call 911 for the injured persons, however-he admits to him and his friend drinking at a bar for 3 hours or so. He claims they only had one drink per hour-but how many people out for a night drinking keep count. They were probably intoxicated, friendly, overly well-meaning drunks. They were told by the emergency personnel present that they had the situation. After the Sgt. asked if they were witnesses (and they both said they were not)they were asked to leave. They did not. They were told more forcefully to leave again. Based on the caller's statements-they did not leave and remained to a point of interference with the emergency personnel's efforts. At some point they both had to be physically removed from the immediate proximity to the injured persons so the medics could effectively do their job. Based on the stupid questions the caller was asking after being warned-he was subsequently arrested for some minor infraction ranging from interfering, public drunkenness, or disorderly conduct.

  • thoreu||

    You can tell the caller was not lucid during the event because of his poor attempt to piece the incident together. While the spin of the story may make some people outraged and even garner him a lawsuit-there is another side to this story completely missing, namely that of the police, firefighters and other emergency personnel on scene as well as any other witnesses we do not know exist at this time. The caller was arrested an put in a holding cell for drunks. A placed that can be hosed clean after its occupants spend the night vomiting, pissing and sometimes crapping on themselves. He was released supposedly without charges. Usually, public drunkenness is a simple fine like a traffic ticket. We don't really know. Again, this story is from one person's perspective and may contain bias and inaccuracies. More importantly, the author of this article should have contacted the SFPD, SFFD, or other persons present to show a complete picture of what happened.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Dunphy?

  • JW||

    That's some first class lick-spittle there. You'll make an excellent toady.

  • Duke||

    Who wants to bet that this San Francisco guy realizes cops shouldn't be the only ones with access to guns?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    "Another grim reminder why it is always dangerous to call the cops and then disobey lawful orders to get out of the way while the EMTs are trying to treat an injured person on the street" would have been a more accurate title, but not as pithy.

    The cops were being assholes and unnecessarily rough (assuming the guy is telling the truth), but the way Doherty paints it you'd think the cops appeared and started putting him in stress positions immediately after he hung up the phone.

    I do agree that the whole article is worth reading, but about 99% of the commenters here won't bother. This isn't about the truth, it's about a chance to hate on cops.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    So you're saying he committed a crime? Then why didn't he get convicted?

  • Cytotoxic||

    Tulpa don't care. This is another chance to show how superior he is to the Reason rabble and bigorati. He will fabricate anything he can. I suspect he has a personality disorder at the very least.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    This is another chance to show how superior he is to the Reason rabble and bigorati.

    I wish you'd stop giving me those chances.

  • JW||

    Oh Tulpy-poo, if we didn't exist, you'd have to invent us.

    Just so you know, the commandant likes his boots with a clockwise lick.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    I had thought maybe this was either a charge of interference with blah blah or one of those cases where they detain an alleged drunk for 24 hours, but the article was vague on precisely what the charge was.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Probably disorderly conduct... that's the usual catch-all for such situations.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Probably

    Authoritarian apologist has to spin.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Please at least attempt not to peddle pedestrian logical fallacies while borrowing Chesterton's name.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    I forgot - the authorities were showing such favoritism toward Mr. Partensky, they just let him walk after committing a crime in front of several police officers. I was blind not to see it.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Throwing people in jail for the night and then releasing them is fairly common police practice for "teaching someone a lesson" without involving the expense of a criminal trial.

  • Jordan||

    In other words, they wrongfully arrested him because he made them mad.

  • ceanf||

    exactly. contempt of cop. they see themselves as our masters, a higher level of citizens, judged under a different set of laws, hell, they even have their own 'bill of rights' because those in the constitution did not allow them to beat, harass, sexually assault, and murder with out consequence.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Throwing people in jail for the night and then releasing them is fairly common police practice for "teaching someone a lesson"

    Which is clearly the proper role for policia.

    Teaching someone a lesson wrt respecting stat authority, not enforcing the law or protecting the public.

  • ||

    And you don't see a huge fucking problem with that?

    And of course that means the beating was justified to, right?

  • ||

    Law and order must be kept, amirite?

  • Cytotoxic||

    There is no evidence he was 'in the way' and there is no reason the cop couldn't have tried persuasion one more time you lying mongoloid piece of shit.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    What part of "the cops were assholes and excessively violent" did you have trouble processing?

    There's no evidence he wasn't in the way either, and that's not for him to decide anyway. The cops and EMTs thought he was in the way so he needs to heed their advice. I know it's a horrible violation of human rights not to be able to watch other people getting medical treatment to pique your curiosity about severe joint injuries, but such is life.

  • Cytotoxic||

    There's no evidence he wasn't in the way either

    "PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE"

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    But you have no problem expecting the cops to prove their innocence?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    They had a chance to make their case in court, but those crooked prosecutors and judges seem to have denied them their chance.

    It is quite routine for prosecutors and judges to drop criminal charges against people who committed their crimes in full view of several police officers.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    A would-be defender of government officials, Tulpa has just accused people in the San Francisco justice system of letting a guilty person off the hook after he obstructed emergency services in full view of official witnesses.

    And he expects these prosecutors and judges to prove their innocence!

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    And he had a chance to make his case in court....

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    After they dismissed the charges?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    He could have filed a civil suit.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    He still could. I bet he has a mattress full of money which he's kept for precisely that purpose.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    It is quite routine for prosecutors and judges to drop criminal charges against people who committed their crimes in full view of several police officers.

    In the case of disorderly conduct, yes, it is routine.

    Please switch to dragging that douche CS Lewis' name through the mud and leave GKC to rest in peace.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    I was talking about dismissing charges against people who actually committed crimes, copsucker.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Nice innuendo from a purported Catholic.

    I have even more terrible revelations from the real world for you: sometimes people who are caught speeding or running a red light get off with warnings rather than getting brought to trial as the law prescribes.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    The accusation *you* made against this guy you never met was not speeding, but "disobey[ing]lawful orders to get out of the way while the EMTs are trying to treat an injured person on the street."

    But by all means move those goalposts.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    And I certainly didn't mean to suggest that you literally [bleep] the [bleep]s of law enforcement officers, it was more of a metaphor.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    But immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is fitting among saints. Let there be no filthiness, nor silly talk, nor levity, which are not fitting; but instead let there be thanksgiving. Be sure of this, that no immoral or impure man, or one who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for it is because of these things that the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not associate with them, for once you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord; walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to learn what is pleasing to the Lord.

    Ephesians 5:3-10

  • Eggs Benedict Cumberbund||

    How is "silly talk" even in the fucking Bible? I'm an atheist but still you gotta have standards. I also come from a high Episcopal background, so this non-King James common language prayer book crap is just not something that I can respect.

  • So very tired||

    But immorality and all impurity ...

    Ah, the old sneak in the next day and change the subject because you know you lost the debate and made a fool of yourself move.

    Otherwise known as the "Tulpa"

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "that douche CS Lewis"

    If you want to confess your ignorance, do it in a more subtle way - like going "duuuuhhh" and panicking when you lock your keys in the car, it's about to snow, and you've left the top down.

  • ImanAzol||

    No, because all cops are guilty.

  • Jordan||

    The article says nothing about the EMTs.

  • ||

    Wow Tulpa. Fuck you.

  • Jordan||

    but the way Doherty paints it you'd think the cops appeared and started putting him in stress positions immediately after he hung up the phone.

    Well, based on the full article, that's not really that far from the truth.

    I do agree that the whole article is worth reading, but about 99% of the commenters here won't bother. This isn't about the truth, it's about a chance to hate on cops.

    The full article makes the cops look even worse than Doherty's summary.

  • John C. Randolph||

    The truth is that in this instance (as in far too many others), a couple of 'roid-raging cops threw a "respek mah ahthorita!" tantrum, and assaulted kidnapped and imprisoned an innocent person.

    -jcr

  • Dweebston||

    Totality of circumstances, rules followed, got home safely, &c. &c.

  • ||

    How did I know you would say something so Tulpical?

  • Free Society||

    This isn't about the truth, it's about a chance to hate on cops.

    We need chances and opportunities to hate on cops? Why? I mean we have bootlickers like you and authoritarian cops pretending to be soldiers as a matter of daily job performance. There's an abundance of reasons to hate the comes, not least of which is power worshiping authoritarians like yourself.

  • Solanum||

    Don't read this unless you want your entire night ruined. It's beyond fucking enraging.

  • seguin||

    Good thing I only read the comments, then.

  • Rich||

    “Once you are in the safety cell, we can’t release you without a psychiatric evaluation."

    "BWAHAHAHAA!!"

    “Do you want to hurt someone?”

    “No,” I cringed.

    "You LIE! Back to the safety cell!"

    He's pretty lucky it turned out this well. 8-(

  • SweatingGin||

    By stating that he didn't want to hurt anyone while being unlawfully detained, he proved that he was insane and would hurt someone, so he had to be detained.

  • Sevo||

    That's quite a catch you have there, that catch 22.

  • Gene||

    “I mean, there are a lot of young cops on the street, trying to make a name for themselves.”.....

    Boyz will be boyz.

  • ||

    Best name for dog food ever!

    "Instinct Rawboost"

    Only bring it up because for some reason it popped up as an ad here.

  • Dweebston||

    I'm naming my daughter Instinct. That, or Pipette.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I like Pipette, that's actually a neat name.

    And when she finishes high school she'll be "Graduated Pipette".

  • General Butt Naked||

    I like Pipette, that's actually a neat name.

    And when she finishes high school she'll be "Graduated Pipette".

  • General Butt Naked||

    I like Pipette, that's actually a neat name.

    And when she finishes high school she'll be "Graduated Pipette".

  • General Butt Naked||

    I don't like it that much.

    Jesus skwirlz, gimme a break here.

  • AustinRoth||

    I will keep saying - cops are a criminal gang comprised of psychopathic thugs lucky enough to have avoided being caught prior to joining the force. The few cops that do not fit that description are still criminally complicit due to providing cover for their fellow gang members by hiding their malfeasance behind the Blue Shield.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Oh yeah, and POBAR is a travesty too. You have no right to "privacy" in what you do while acting as a coercive agent of the state.

  • Ted S.||

    And of course there's no bill of rights for the victims of "public safety" officers.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    It's called the Bill of Rights. But it is sporadically enforced.

  • ||

    And then I get further down and you say something I agree with. That's why I mostly like you. Mostly.

  • SugarFree||

    He's a piece of shit. He throws things like that in to keep people of good will like you nominally on his side. He will let you down in the end, just like he's let everyone else in his life down. That's why he's alone.

  • Almanian!||

    He will let you down in the end

    So you're saying Tulip is the Cleveland Browns, then....

  • SugarFree||

    Yes, except poor and sexually obsessed with peanut butter.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    I sort of want to read SF's alternative history of Tulpa -- should be a lot more intriguing than real life. The part where women and employers compete for my attention is probably absent, though.

  • SugarFree||

    I thought you didn't read my posts, dipshit. Yet another promise you've broken.

    I'm sure you look good on paper. Getting to know you is when the disappointment really sets in.

  • JW||

    I'm going to go way out on a limb here and say that Tulpa's truth will always be massively duller and food-stained than fiction.

  • SugarFree||

    Soon spring will come and he'll take the time to finally clean out the hundreds of fast food wrappers in his shitty little car.

  • ||

    Surely his servants keep his Rolls-Royce spotless.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Maybe he could post the legal paperwork about the charge and the court's disposition.

  • SIV||

    The guy sure kept missing a lot of good opportunities to shut the fuck up. The "missing piece" of the story seems to lie in his lack of perception of what was going on shortly before they dragged his friend away.

  • Cdr Lytton||

    Yes.

  • ceanf||

    so it is OK to be assaulted and battered in your mind because he didn't submit like a good little sheep?
    nice logic.

    guess rape victims have a lot of good opportunities not to dress so sexy and to not flirt so much? guess in your world, the missing piece of every rape story is the victim's lack of perception of how they looked and were acting before being raped...

  • GILMORE||

    You are a fucking retard.

    I like how on this site, we can have 1000s of stories a year about police abuse, yet the one instance of some self-important progressive prick get tossed in the drunk tank, and our hearts DONT BLEED ENOUGH?!

    HATEFUL CONSERVATIVE VICTIM BLAMERS!

    buddy, seriously, go fuck yourself with your moral posturing. you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and definitely don't know who you're talking to.

  • ImanAzol||

    Suck harder. The police are coming and you don't want to spill any.

  • SusanM||

    so it is OK to be assaulted and battered in your mind because he didn't submit like a good little sheep?

    No one's saying that. Even in the worst interpretation of events the cops went too far.

    What's going on is good old fashioned schadenfreude that a ultra-liberal "there oughta be a law" and "government should have all the power to solve all our problems" type got caught up in the system.

    And, too, there's the fact that what happened to this person is not as horrible or unusual as he seems to think. What happened to him was a paradise of gentle breezes compared to how he'd have been treated if he were one of the cultural "untouchables". I wouldn't be too surprised if he thought "well, that just doesn't happen anymore" either.

  • ImanAzol||

    Oh, it happens all the time? Well, that's okay then. It's not a problem.

  • Nazdrakke||

    So.. I was reading through the previous thread and am wondering if Ol' Honest Abe belongs on the never to be mentioned list of Reason topics.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    The people on the TV brought it up! The TV!

  • ||

    Presents a convincing argument to steer clear of police.

  • nipplemancer||

    Let's get Tulpical, Tulpical
    I wanna get Tulpical
    Let's get into Tulpical
    Let me hear that asshole talk, that asshole talk
    Let me hear that asshole talk

  • JW||

    It's the mental disorder that compels you to lovingly tongue the asshole of authority.

  • Plopper||

    It feels good if you're the authority.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    You'd know what it's like to abuse the trust as an authority figure, wouldn't you Plopper?

  • SweatingGin||

    OT/Reason Blog:

    Watching Ender's Game, finally. I (one of the few of my generation) never read the book.

    This is what the Starship Troopers movie should have been. This is damn near a sequel to Starship Troopers (that's not a complaint).

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I liked EG, but I apparently have no taste in film.

    I'm rewatching Oblivion. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I like Cruise.

    THERE, I SAID IT.

  • SweatingGin||

    Shit, bad taste all around.

    I enjoyed Oblivion, as well. More so after I realized it was a comic book.

  • ||

    It's the best Cruise movie since Jerry Maguire.

  • GILMORE||

    Wait, what? they made a movie?

  • ||

    Hey guys, did you hear Ellen Page (aka Juno and Shadowcat) is a lesbian?

  • ||

    This is my shocked face.

  • John Galt||

    Never saw Juno and have no intention of doing so, but MADtv did an interesting Juno parody, Juno II, which was likely far more interesting than the actual movie.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9xBZ9Mpqn0

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Grizabella the Glamour Cat is a lesbian? That actually makes sense.

  • Matrix||

    He obviously didn't respect their authoritah...

  • Anonymous Coward||

    I moved to San Francisco 9 years ago for graduate school at UCSF and currently run a company that brings transparency to the food industry and employs 12 people. It may appear to be self-serving for me to say so, but I am a rational and peaceful person whom no reasonable being would deem a threat.

    What was that South Park episode where people in SF huff their own farts?

    I was standing 15 feet from the scene beside Officer Kaur, a stocky female of South Asian complexion. She turned to me and abruptly said that I was not needed as a witness and should leave immediately. I told her we were headed home, just across the way, when my friend and I encountered the accident; and that I’d recently broken my elbow in a similar bike accident here and deeply cared about the outcome.

    Mistake 1: Offering up information to the police.

    When Officer Kaur walked away, I spoke with the remaining officers. I told Officers Andreotti and Gerrans that I appreciated their prompt arrival and respected their jobs. I mentioned that I’ve had only positive interactions with the SFPD until that point.

    Mistake 2: Criticizing the cops, on the street, to their faces. You imagine you live in the nice, safe, civilized world. But in Cop-Land, brute force and ignorance win every time. Keep your editorials to yourself.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    We had a cordial conversation. They noticed I was shivering and propped me on the door of Radius restaurant. Then they asked me what I do for a living. I said that I write software that helps restaurants source food and indicated that the restaurant behind me uses our product.

    Mistake 3: Relating back to Mistake 1, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL TALKING TO THE POLICE?

    They said that this process should be quick, quicker than my friends’ ability to help, and that I’d be out in no time.

    I took them at their word. Then they took me to county jail, where I spent 12 hours, mostly in solitary confinement.

    Mistake 4: Believing the cops when they told you everything was fine. Dummy.

    I'm done reading this shit. Cops behaving like thugs. Not surprising. But this enlightened software programmer, who insists that his shit smells like roses proceeds to poke the hungry, idiot bear known as the police and then is shocked when it mauls him.

  • SIV||

    Then he did it again in the jail.

  • GILMORE||

    I have seen these people. up close.

    I have lived in Williamsburg Brooklyn for 15 years.

    The sense of - dare I use the word? -
    *privilege* and entitlement is overwhelming. It is the essence of their very being. They come to the "big city" and think by planting their flag they will transform its gritty streets into their progressive utopia.

    Usually they get their ass kicked by some local within 6 months. it is almost universally precipitated by their stating, in exactly the wrong time,place, and tone of voice = "Hey Man: that's not *cool*"

    There is a fundamental reality that these people fail to comprehend, which is: some people - nay, most people - in the world DO NOT CARE whether they are considered 'cool' by the string-bean-muscled, ostentatious, herb-farming Urban Artiste.

    Their opinion is of no value to anyone- which comes as a surprise and shock to them.

    basically, after the word "...cool..." leaves their mouth, I count backwards from 10, and it usually ends up with Professor Millennial, Bastion of Peace and Rationality, ruminating on his own former dental work.

    Sometimes its a cop who does it because the Professor has had a tad too much Blowcaine. Injustice! my heart, it somehow... uh, no. Actually I don't mind it so much.

  • JW||

    Epiphanies sometime come on slowly, when up against a lifetime of indoctrination. I'll cut him some slack on that.

  • Agile Cyborg||

    Most people have to learn the hard way.

  • John Galt||

    Isn't referring to people who have self titled themselves "liberals" as liberals basically the same as referring to a 6'8 tall 450 pound man by the name "Tiny?"

  • GILMORE||

    + 1 Epic Understatement

  • The Late P Brooks||

    I presented all of this to the SF Office of Citizen Complaints.

    It's like they re-branded the Memory Hole.

  • GILMORE||

    WHAT!? THE BUREAUCRACY DOESNT WORK!?

    WE NEED TO FORM A COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THIS

  • RishJoMo||

    That sounds like a very good deal to me dude. WOw.

    www.GoAnon.tk

  • daveInAustin||

    In related news.

  • GILMORE||

    "I live in a new gilded age in a golden city. But sometimes the cracks show, even here"

    Translation = My story has nothing to do with me. No, wait - it has everything to do with me. its actually me talking about me. But! Needs context. GILDED AGE! Moral decay! Im a white knight here baby! Need to add a litte Raymond chandler before I get all Sinclair Lewis on you.

    "I feel the need to do something to help prevent this brutality from propagating."

    Translation = propagating. Yes, I said it. Because for you peasants, brutality happens. For people of my finely heightened sensibilities and morally elevated status? Brutality copulates in the sewers and gives birth to antiprogressive troglodytes.

    "It may appear to be self-serving for me to say so, but I am a rational and peaceful person whom no reasonable being would deem a threat."

    Translation: 'I am extremely self serving. I will be this way from start to finish in this piece. I am warning you now = I kind of go over the top with it. To the point you may feel compelled to groan, 'oh, come the fuck on already'. I get this a lot. So, I am getting this out of the way because sometimes despite being rational and peaceful and morally elevated and a person with good intentions bringing 'transparency' to industries (CAPITALISMS SUCK!1!), despite ALL of this.... people still seem to always want to punch me in the face??!! Can you believe that?

  • SIV||

    After reading all that shit I kinda wanted to stomp his hands too.

  • GILMORE||

    I wanted to punch and strangle he guy be the end of the third or 4th paragraph. He hadn't even begun his fucking STORY yet.

    people with rap sheets get shot in their own homes (along with their dogs, children) in the dead of night because they "might" have a gun.

    This sort of 'atrocity' is given a few paragraphs in the middle of regional small-city newspapers. perhaps a comment or two of indignation is made by locals. Then it is forgotten.

    Fucking overeducated self-important twat-rocket gentrifier spends a few hours in the drunk tank? Well STRIKE UP THE FUCKING BAND! =

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHK0eao7Qlk

    ..and write me a screed about the injustice of the planet despite our golden age and wonderful (yay San Fran!) morally superior culture and good intentions and non-profit work and ability to use full sentences. Oh, and he bothers to call it *solitary confinement*. What, you wanted a friend to complain to?

    if you've never spent a night in jail for some bullshit reason the cops cooked up because you fucking mouthed off or were just being an *existential* douchebag, guess what? It SHOULD happen. You should spend some unneeded hours in the slammer. Maybe you'll get out of your goddamn bubble world and realize how the fucking world works.

    Or, no = you can write an article that makes the process sounds like an expose of the goddamn Nazi death camps, or the re-enactment of the rape of lucretia, without the music.

  • edcoast||

    Dunno if I agree or not but Damn that was good, Gilmore.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    Funny, but the "6 hours in solitary" comment kind of set off my hipster BS detector.

  • GILMORE||

    Solitary = "They put me somewhere no one would have to listen to my bullshit for a few hours"

  • ImanAzol||

    So, you want to wait before we have concentration camps before trying to fix the problem?

  • ImanAzol||

    "This sort of 'atrocity' is given a few paragraphs in the middle of regional small-city newspapers. perhaps a comment or two of indignation is made by locals. Then it is forgotten."

    ~~~

    And that's why it continues. Because fascist copsuckers like you masturbate to the idea of a "1%er" getting beat up.

    Sorry about you tiny penis.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    "It may appear to be self-serving for me to say so, but I am a rational and peaceful person whom no reasonable being would deem a threat."

    "Did I mention I'm a monumental pussy hipster?"

  • GILMORE||

    Among the numerous things I find revolting and pathetic about the person's tear-jerker story of 'a night in a cell', is the pretense of Martyrdom they seem to have, as though NO ONE ever heard about police misconduct before, or that - whoa, maybe we don't need to elevate *every* situation to 911 - or that its *especially* unfair because the 'victim' is such a Nice Person with RightThinking Attitudes and a Social Conscience. 'This sort of thing isn't supposed to happen to people like me!'

    Apparently this person - despite their incredible social-consciousness - was completely oblivious to the actual society around him/her, and seemed to be under the impression The System Was Functioning Optimally. Until Tragedy Struck, and Injustice Was Felt.

    Jesus, why couldn't they have been hit by a car on their bike, then dropped into some horrible public hospital where they spent a month imprisoned while the incompetent medicos lost his health records, gave him drugs causing an allergic reaction, mis-set his bones such that he's permanently crippled, then stuck with a $150,000 bill for City Emergency Services?

    i.e. = SHIT THAT ALSO HAPPENS EVERY DAY

    At least then they'd have the genuine cross to bear of being permanently fucked over by the State they love and fellate with joy every day.

  • SusanM||

    that its *especially* unfair because the 'victim' is such a Nice Person with RightThinking Attitudes and a Social Conscience. 'This sort of thing isn't supposed to happen to people like me!'

    Bravo.

  • Dread Pirate Roberts||

    I agree with you that as we're all complicit in the State's crimes it shouldn't come as a shock that anyone might be victimized. Still, the reminder is worthwhile that the blows can fall just as hard if you're a white, educated taxpayer as someone in the non-politically connected underclass. If you're not already freaked out by giving cops high tech weapons and unchecked power, then a story like this just might give you the unsettling feeling you need.

  • GILMORE||

    Perhaps.

    given the way the sob story is sold, it strikes me more as an appeal from one member of priviledged classes to others in his peer group to:

    "be aware that our belief in a perfect state has not yet arrived, and troglodyte commoners remain in positions of authority, who should be avoided until we've got TOP MEN in charge"

  • ImanAzol||

    Indeed. They should have raped him. That would teach him to be respectful.

  • MarioSmario||

    Americans have become too dependent on 911 anyway. We used to take care of many of these issues ourselves. Just another example of how we're willingly giving up free will to the centralized government. I often think about the waitress who, after being given a generous tip of $1,000, thought it best to let the police know. They took her and her tips down to the police station, found the man who gave her the tip, interrogated him, and after they realized he was just a lonely and wealthy old man (not the drug kingpin they were hoping for) they let him go. The woman lost her $1,000 tip. Still evidence... Why would an American's first reaction be to call the cops or 911 for anything? We've been turned into zombies.

  • AnCapNow!||

    Too bad you need 911 to call an ambulance or firemen, which will automatically bring in the stormtroopers.

  • BuSab Agent||

    You don't need 911. Firemen and ambulance services have, even in this modern age, their very own phone numbers which you can look up and use.

  • AnCapNow!||

    True. BuSab. Hmm, Dosaidi Experiment, Whipping Star, Jorg McKee, Frank Herbert stuff?

  • AnCapNow!||

    Dosadai, my bad.

  • ImanAzol||

    At least the officers went home safe at the end of the shift. That's what's important here.

  • swapnil006||

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  • judeoconnor@mac.com||

    I live three hundred miles north of NYC but I had a fifty dollar addition on a speeding ticket for NYC, huh? It was then I found all traffic violations have this addition to help the police department of New York City.

  • Cloudbuster||

    "I’m truly afraid that I’ll sound indignant and grouchy about being arrested."

    Listen, pussy, "grim and indignant" is the least you should be. Outraged to the point of violent revolt would be more appropriate.

  • ibcbet||

    There's an abundance of reasons to hate the comes, not least of which is power worshiping authoritarians like yourself.

  • cheap kits||

    There is no evidence he was 'in the way' and there is no reason the cop couldn't have tried persuasion one more time you lying mongoloid piece of shit.

  • janak||

    I was talking about dismissing charges against people who actually committed crimes, copsucker.

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  • janak||

    Yes, I said it. Because for you peasants, brutality happens. For people of my finely heightened sensibilities and morally elevated status? Brutality copulates in the sewers and gives birth to antiprogressive troglodytes.
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