NYC Comptroller and Mayoral Candidate Supports Marijuana Legalization, For the Children

liu tooDavid Shankbone/WikimediaWhen Anthony Weiner plunged to fourth place in the polls, New York City Comptroller John Liu was still in fifth place, while Bill de Blasio, the city’s public advocate, has surged into first. Quinn, who was in the lead earlier in the race, has said she’d keep Ray Kelly on as police commissioner, while de Blasio has called for him to go. Polling shows 60 percent of likely Democratic voters seeing stop and frisk, recently ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge, as excessive, and de Blasio’s position on the issue helps explain his surge. Bill Thompson, who lost to Bloomberg in 2009 by a small margin despite little political support, also recently took a harsher stance toward stop and frisk (he opposed both city council bills related to restricting or monitoring it), and is now being pilloried for supporting it too much and not enough. None of these candidates have seemed to address the relationship between stop and frisk and the prosecution of the drug war in New York City (city council members can be no less reticent about it). Now John Liu has, in a report as city comptroller promoting legalization of marijuana, something he and his chief economist hope persuades lawmakers. From Fordham Public Radio:

John Liu wants to legalize pot to help the city's youth. The New York City Comptroller and democratic mayoral candidate released a report on Wednesday saying legalizing and taxing marijuana would garner the city more than $400 million each year. He said the extra money could be used to lower tuition at CUNY schools.

The report also stated legalization would keep minor offenders out the criminal justice system by curbing arrests and the social damage they cause.

The Comptroller's Chief Economist Frank Braconi admitted studying the money behind marijuana is an inexact science.

"The revenue numbers are best guesses because it's an illegal market," he said. "You're guessing about its dimensions."

But, Braconi said the published numbers were a conservative estimate, and didn't even include the money saved from incarceration and other factors.

President Obama’s scoffed at the economic potential of marijuana legalization, but it is very real (“science says so”). Liu’s made a point he should make more strongly on the campaign trail; the discussion in the New York City mayoral primary, which focuses on the racial aspect of stop and frisk to the almost complete exclusion of the war on drugs as a driving factor. Despite the persistent paternalism of prohibitionists, marijuana legalization’s got a bright future:

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  • Gladstone||

    He said the extra money could be used to lower tuition at CUNY schools.

    Pardon my skepticism.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Why would anyone running for public office make a false or exaggerated claim?

  • Sevo||

    Well, ya know, it *could*.
    It just won't

  • Lyle||

    It is just a means to an end in the mind of Reason.

  • Calidissident||

    Huh?

  • Lady Bertrum||

    "President Obama scoffed at the economic potential of marijuana legalization..."

    Hmmm, could he be this economically illiterate or is he being disingenuous?

  • Almanian!||

    yes

  • pan fried wylie||

    I think he just likes scoffing.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Madison declined to identify the police officers, saying that he wanted to respect the police department’s internal investigative procedures.

    and nothing else happened

    h/t Radley

  • John||

    Is it sad that all of this is frankly believable? Orson Scott Card goes full out on Obama.

    Obama is, by character and preference, a dictator. He hates the very idea of compromise; he demonizes his critics and despises even his own toadies in the liberal press. He circumvented Congress as soon as he got into office by appointing "czars" who didn't need Senate approval. His own party hasn't passed a budget ever in the Senate.

    In other words, Obama already acts as if the Constitution were just for show. Like Augustus, he pretends to govern within its framework, but in fact he treats it with contempt.

    Dead on true. Now the unlikely but possible stuff.

    Michelle Obama is going to be Barack's Lurleen Wallace. Remember how George Wallace got around Alabama's ban on governors serving two terms in a row? He ran his wife for the office. Everyone knew Wallace would actually be pulling the strings, even though they denied it. Michelle Obama will be Obama's designated "successor," and any Democrat who seriously opposes her will be destroyed in the media the way everyone who contested Obama's run for the Democratic nomination in 2008 was destroyed.

  • John||

    But wait, there is more

    Where will he get his "national police"? The NaPo will be recruited from "young out-of-work urban men" and it will be hailed as a cure for the economic malaise of the inner cities.

    In other words, Obama will put a thin veneer of training and military structure on urban gangs, and send them out to channel their violence against Obama's enemies.

    Instead of doing drive-by shootings in their own neighborhoods, these young thugs will do beatings and murders of people "trying to escape" -- people who all seem to be leaders and members of groups that oppose Obama.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/wei.....sonal.html

    The police part is very believable. In fact, I am shocked they haven't already tried it.

  • General Butt Naked||

    It would be so much better if it were actually like that. People would fight, they'd have something to gain by fighting.

    As it is we're like the frog in the pot slowly being boiled by soft tyranny.

  • SIV||

    Never work. The last thing the rulers want is a popular armed insurrection.
    The local dog-shooting donut-eaters wouldn't stand for it either.

  • Dweebston||

    Card needs to stick with what he's best at, namely publishing material for future high school students and watching his opus turned to shit by that majesty of green-screen cinema.

  • anon||

    The police part is very believable. In fact, I am shocked they haven't already tried it.

    Uh, hello? TSA.

  • Gladstone||

    Whatever, he doesn't like gays and is gauche enough to call a Dem and a black man a dictator.

  • John||

    No black man could ever do anything wrong. Didn't you know that? It is just like no one who speaks German could ever mean harm.

  • Gladstone||

    Well is it me or is the modern Democratic party rather mindlessly pro-State? Such statism necessarily leads to totalitarianism not too much won't be all that socially tolerant since any time not spent working in the Collective Farm/Factory is stealing from society and deserving of death.

  • Dweebston||

    If everything is within the State and nothing outside the State, what sense is there being either mindful or anti-State? That's now how court historians/economists/professors/apologists make their pensions. Can't say I blame middling intellectuals with obvious chips on their collective shoulders for finding careers shitting on entrepreneurs, financiers and the like.

  • Gladstone||

    Yeah since the MSM's beef with the USG is that it is too small and doesn't have enough power is it any wonder they aren't acting like watchdogs?

  • Gladstone||

    Speaking of Card what about all that business over boycotting the Ender's Game movie? Isn't that part of the "politicization of everything" that libertarians complain about? Or is Card too reprehensible to be enjoyed?

  • ||

    His views are pretty extreme, even by Mormon standards.

    But at the same time boycotting the movie won't make a bit of difference to him since he's already made a lot of money from the books and the film adaptation.

  • anon||

    Sadly, libertarians boycotting anything doesn't make a bit of difference to anyone.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Calidissident||

    Wait, you mean Obama didn't personally hunt down bin Laden in Pakistan and singlehandedly kill him in hand-to-hand combat, before carrying his corpse to the coast and feeding it to sharks?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    No, of course not. He was too busy preparing to gift the Syrian rebels with 400 of our SAMs.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Warty and his friends visit the Vet

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Taco Bell has rolled out its Breakfast Waffle Tacos

  • Dweebston||

    Taco Bell for breakfast is a narrow step up from a shot of vodka for breakfast. I don't care what Jeffrey Tucker says, there are things which should not go on before 11 a.m., and Taco Bell is among them.

  • General Butt Naked||

    What if you stay up all night?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH VODKA FOR BREAKFAST?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Seriously, you've never woken up after an all-nighter and had a bloody mary as a hair of the dog?

  • Dweebston||

    I wanted to say tequila for breakfast, but didn't want to seem racist what with the analogy to Taco Bell. But yes, besides mimosas, a bloody mary is acceptable before noon.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Yeah, tequila for breakfast...or lunch...or dinner...or basically anything that won't end up with you waking up next to a dead goat and an Asian ladyboy prostitute. Or was it an Asian goat and a dead ladyboy prostitute?

    It's still kind of fuzzy in my mind.

  • Dweebston||

    Hey, I like my tequila. I'll take a belt of Herradura or three over Jameson.

  • SugarFree||

    It was a half-dead Asian transgoat brostitute. Why you called me to come over and take all those pictures I'll never understand.

  • Robert||

    Maybe I heard it a long time ago, but the only time I remember hearing about this taboo was a few weeks ago when I offered the guy from Verizon a can of beer. I think I was having one of my own at the time, but he said, nah, it's still morning. But it wasn't very morning, it was almost 11 AM. Of course standard or solar time it was still only close to 10, but do taboos not go with daylight saving?

  • ||

    I wanted to say tequila for breakfast, but didn't want to seem racist what with the analogy to Taco Bell. But yes, besides mimosas, a bloody mary is acceptable before noon.

    Wrong again, a bloody marias are even better. Not my preference but tequila sunrises are also a pre-noon drink. Hell how about just a plain ol margarita, maybe a fresh frozen fruit one like mango.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Morning Drinkers Liberation Movement

    Join today!*

    *no longer sending newsletters

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Dress Like a Man

    I don't want to join the Jeffrey Tucker club.

  • Dweebston||

    Finally, never underestimate the power of the iron. The iron is the ultimate tool for dressing well.

    Ironing is women's work. But a bachelor can't court a woman to do his ironing without a properly ironed shirt and slacks. WHAT IS A PROPER GENTLEMAN TO DO?!

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    You've never heard of a valet, Dweebston?

  • Dweebston||

    What parks the car, right?

  • Dweebston||

    Sadly, Albuquerque hasn't the hipster scene or the professional up-and-comer scene to justify investing in gentlemanly trappings. Once I'm degreed and elsewhere I'll by my razor strop and cufflinks and suspenders and dinner jacket and hire a valet to shave the day's growth off the back of my neck before it seems unsightly.

  • Dweebston||

    also differentiate homophones.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I just graduated. Thinkin' of treating myself to a nice new pair of cargo shorts. Gotta look good if I ever get an interview.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Utilikilt!

  • General Butt Naked||

    That's a little rich for my blood, Rockefeller.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Fair enough.

    In the meantime, I'll share some links I have under my bookmark folder "Grooming and Things Satorial"

    Grooming
    http://www.tayloroldbondst.co.uk/
    http://www.trumpers.com/

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I've ready that essay before and Tucker is 100 and infinity percent correct. However please note that the wardrobe he lists should only be considered a "starter wardrobe" and should be expanded upon as expenses permit.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I don't want to join the Jeffrey Tucker club.

    I thought all of you fleet-footed canadians were snazzy dressers.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

  • Dweebston||

    This isn't the Canadian tux?

  • playa manhattan||

    Taco Bell has Cinnabon Minis now!

  • playa manhattan||

    misthreaded

  • SIV||

    You mean a "step down".

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Perhaps you should also take heart George F Will's opinion on the blue jean.

  • General Butt Naked||

    He sounds like a goddamn old lady.

  • Dweebston||

    authentic work clothes for horny-handed sons of toil and the soil

    I don't reach for jeans when I'm especially horny-handed.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Drumming like a Boss

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    This guys is also drumming like a boss

  • playa manhattan||

    I'm so glad that guy is getting famous. 24 million+ views...

  • Faceless Commenter||

    Slight OT, Chris Christie aristosplains to a peasant why life-threatening Dravet Syndrome is better for his two-year-old daughter than the relief she gets from medical marijuana:

    “These are complicated issues,” Gov. Christie responded to Wilson.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....-for-kids/

  • General Butt Naked||

    “I want to make sure that if we do it, we do it in a way that’s helpful to children – does not reduce any of the requirements of the program to make sure that this does not go down a slippery slope,” Christie has said.

    What a dick.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Should be called 10 tips for idiots

  • playa manhattan||

    Hacks? In my day, they used to be called recipes.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    They say Dress for the Job you want, that's why I always go out dressed like The Batman.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    That's why I walk around naked. I want to be a porn star.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

  • MappRapp||

    Sometimes man, you jsut have to roll with the punches. Wow.

    www.Tactical-Anon.tk

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