Police Continue to Harass and Threaten Citizens for Perfectly Legal Act of Photographing Them

Seattle cops continue to be officious threatening douches to citizens doing things perfectly legal, even though they are under a federal court order to essentially stop being such threatening douches, the Seattle Stranger reports:

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The setup: Stranger writer sees a bunch of cops surrounding a guy, starts taking pictures. Again, the hard life of a police officer is exhibited: nearly any encounter with anyone can turn ugly and nasty, as soon as the cop chooses to make it so:

King County Sheriff's Office Sergeant Patrick "K.C." Saulet rushed over and told me to leave or be arrested. He claimed I was standing on transit station property; the plaza belongs to King County Metro's International District Station and I could not stand there, he said. I backed up about two feet over the line that he pointed out (two parts of the same walkway) until I was unambiguously on the City of Seattle's sidewalk, near a utility pole by the curb. But Officer Saulet then insisted that I would be arrested unless I left the entire block.....

Back to Saulet: "You need to leave or you're coming with me," he said while repeating his arrest threat yet again. Commuters, shoppers, and vagrants were milling about the sidewalk and plaza—some people were passing closer to the center of the police activity than I was—but I was the only one on that busy block told to leave (the guy watching the police and taking their picture).....

Saulet has a long history of abusive policing. In 2006, the Seattle PI reported the he has 12 sustained misconduct complaints against him and "one of the worst misconduct histories in the King County Sheriff's Office."....

 I was jotting down a few notes so I'd remember what happened when I saw three officers leaving the scene. I asked them who was the commanding officer on scene.,,,Then Seattle police officer John Marion asked why I was asking.

I explained to him that I'd just been threatened with arrest for standing on the sidewalk (even though he'd just watched the whole thing), so I wanted to know who was in charge and if he thought it was illegal to stand on the sidewalk.

Instead of answering, Officer Marion asked why I was asking him questions.

I explained that I'm a reporter and I didn't think I'd broken any laws. He asked what news outlet I worked for. The Stranger, I told him.

Then Officer Marion said this: "I'm going to come into The Stranger and bother you while you're at work." He asked for my business card so he could get the address to come to my office, and, twice more, he threatened to come harass me at work. His point, he said, was that I was "harassing" him.

Of course, he was violating no law. He writes that he intends to file a complaint with SPD, 

Because it shouldn't be considered professional conduct in our county police force to threaten law-abiding citizens with arrest. It's rank intimidation. I also can't imagine that when that civilian asks a question of city officers—am I breaking the law?—that it is considered professional to threaten the civilian with visiting his place of work and harass him. If either of those things are considered acceptable, we should change the code of police conduct, because both are insane. And if they aren't considered acceptable, I expect the departments to punish the cops involved.

Well, good luck with that.

Hat tip: Radley Balko, who wrote for us this January 2011 classic feature on the illegitimate police war on citizens who photograph or film them.

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  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    Seattle cops

    but not our good Dunphy, right!

  • Ted S.||

    He's too busy powerlifting and surfing to be involved in stuff like this.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Powerlifting and surfing simultaneously

    hth

  • ||

    it's weightlifting not powerlifting. of course the bigorati don't know the difference.

    smooches

    hth

  • Warrren||

    The dude is literally Batman.

  • juris imprudent||

    Funny, but I read that as Barfman.

  • ||

    -i/0

    OLYMPIC weighlifting, troll. Smooches, liberati.

  • ||

    Ahem *Olympic* weightlifting, bigorati troll

    hth

  • ||

    Copycat.

  • ||

    And fucking Morgan Fairchild.

  • Warrren||

    Yeah, what is it with that bitch? Fuck her!

  • robc||

    Im sure Dunphy has reported all the cops involved to proper authorities, he would never work with bad cops.

  • Ted S.||

    He reported them so they could get their medals.

  • Warrren||

    Is there anything but evil and perversion in Seattle?

  • ||

    I was going to argue with you, but I couldn't come up with a counter-example. I mean, Epi's there.

  • Dweebston||

    Pervasion, the rare but undeniable invasion by perverts.

  • Paul.||

    As a resident of Seattle, I can assure you, no.

  • some guy||

    I hear you guys have good coffee shops.

  • Matrix||

    Chris Pirillo doesn't seem all that evil. Well, he's in the same county anyway...

  • ||

    Look out, Eduard van Haalen! If people aren't punished now for this, then pretty soon everybody will think they can run around photographing cops all the time, interfering with their investigations.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Damn you. I came here to make almost a similar comment.

    You must admit that if we allow people to freely photograph cops, one day we'll be mandated by the government to let pedophiles take naked pictures of our kids. It's a slippery slope, jim.

  • Warrren||

    This is already happening with the scanners at airports.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    {smooches}

  • The Hyperbole||

    Slightly (mostly?) OT
    State trooper behaves humanely, two citizens die!
    This is what happens when LEOs don't treat everyone they encounter as a potential criminal.

  • ||

    Sgt. Jeffrey Shane, a 29-year-member of the State Patrol, has been placed on administrative desk duty during an internal investigation to determine whether he violated any policies, patrol Lt. Anne Ralston has said.

    Weird, a cop is being investigated and I'm hoping he gets to keep his job.

  • Agammamon||

    Also, can we stop calling 18 and 19 year olds (who aren't in porn) teens?

  • robc||

    You are a teen until you are 20.

  • Robert||

    That's tenteen.

  • Irish||

    Also, can we stop calling 18 and 19 year olds (who aren't in porn) teens?

    They are teens. I just wish people would stop calling them 'children.'

  • General Butt Naked||

    Yeah, I think 16 should be the point where we stop referring to individuals as children, boys or girls on the teevee.

    By that point, for all intensive porpoises, you're an adult.

  • PapayaSF||

    It's funny how often Trayvon Martin, who was a few months from being 18, is called a "child" or even a "boy." I want all those people to, within the hearing of 17-year-old black males, refer to them as "children" and "boys" and get back to me about how that worked out.

  • Paul.||

    I dunno, I call anyone under the age of 29 "son".

  • Robert||

    Even the girls?

  • dinkster||

    I call people younger than me homeskillet.

  • Zeb||

    No. They are teens.

  • Agammamon||

    "Normal procedure calls for troopers to pat down anyone being given a courtesy ride in a patrol car and check their names for any outstanding warrants,. . ."

    Really, this is SOP for interactions with the public is it?

  • PapayaSF||

    In the patrol car, that seems pretty sensible.

  • Agammamon||

    Why? If *you* were nice enough to offer someone a ride would you consider it reasonable to predicate it upon their allowing you to pat them down? If a 'helpful stranger' offered you assistance would you think nothing of allowing them to search you?

  • PapayaSF||

    I think they are concerned about people with weapons sitting behind them. However, about 15 years ago I got a short courtesy ride in a police car after my car broke down on the freeway, and they did not search me.

    Of note: this cop is white, and at least one of the two guys he gave a ride to is black. He shoulda profiled....

  • Michael S. Langston||

    20 years or so ago, a friend and I were talking a couple miles (in highschool) to get to a wrestling match at school- 7PM maybe; we passed an alley with a cop who was there in a speed trap.

    My friend joked, "want me to ask for a ride?"

    I dared him - he asked.

    We were both likely obvious highschool students, but both seniors - he didn't search nor ask for names. He did radio he picked up two white males (likely gave age ranged I don't recall) - but he just dropped us off.

    That was odd - dropped off at highschool in a cop car :)

  • Michael S. Langston||

    Aside from my personal story - I agree that a pat-down doesn't seem unreasonable given you're getting in their car. Warrant check doesn't seem unreasonable either, though possibly counterproductive if someone really needs help.

  • Paul.||

    Why? If *you* were nice enough to offer someone a ride would you consider it reasonable to predicate it upon their allowing you to pat them down?

    What does she look like?

  • Swamp Think||

    What are the odds of that happening? I do feel for the cop, he must feel like shit.

  • some guy||

    Normal procedure calls for troopers to pat down anyone being given a courtesy ride in a patrol car and check their names for any outstanding warrants, but it appears that didn’t happen, Ralston has said.

    A while back my car got totaled in an accident. The responding officer gave me a ride home without patting me down. Should I report him to his supervisor?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Yeah, basically no checks on police. None.

  • Irish||

    OT: Connecticut newspaper claims that the Republican Party and Fox News espouse the same values as the KKK.

    The total intellectual, rational and moral collapse of the American Left continues apace.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Back home in my small pennsylvania hometown there are some racist ass motherfuckers. People that make American look like MLK.

    They almost all espouse working man bullshit socialist economics. It's not that they want the government to stop handing out money, they just want it to stop handing it out to black people.

  • Warrren||

    Ahh, the Free Republic demo.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Don't forget this part:

    "Separation [of Church and State] was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed (or was it the Klansman’s Kreed?). Before he joined the Court, Justice [Hugo] Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.” In 1947, Black was the author of Everson, the first Supreme Court case to hold that the first amendment’s establishment clause requires separation of church & state. The suit in Everson was brought by an organization that at various times had ties to the KKK."

    http://www.firstthings.com/blo.....and-state/

  • PapayaSF||

    Interesting!

  • Warrren||

    Yes, the idea of SCOTUS justices being neutral arbiters of law is something that I can't believe that others believe.

    Also, I read that link as "fistings" dot com and was just going o take your word for it.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    The governor and others stood up publicly in Milford because the word “KKK” was involved.

    "KKK" is not a word, dipshit editor. It is an "acronym." While some acronyms can be pronounced as words, they are always abbreviations. "KKK" is an abbreviation of Ku Klux Klan.

    Everyone knows the disgusting history of that movement and how disgusting one’s mindset has to be to embrace the label today.

    Judging from the writer's tenuous grasp on the English language, I very much doubt he or she knows much of anything about the Ku Klux Klan, except that they were racists.

    That message includes black people being an inferior race (note Nugent’s blanket statements that black people don’t work as hard as white people, are criminals, etc.), a fear of and opposition to immigration and expressions of disgust and hatred toward gay people.

    They also hated Republicans and actually lynched a few. Hey look! Something you guys have in common! You must be a Klansman! The Klan was also anti-Catholic.

    Members of the KKK used to wear white robes and masks to hide their identities from their co-workers, church parishioners and friends.

    No, they wore the hoods and robes to terrorize their targets.

    For the love of Aqua Buddha, at least skim Wikipedia before you infest the internet with more stupidity.

  • Irish||

    Members of the KKK used to wear white robes and masks to hide their identities from their co-workers, church parishioners and friends.

    Yeah, that's ridiculous bullshit. When the KKK was really powerful, no one had to hide their identity from their co-workers, church parishioners and friends, since all of those people were probably also Klansmen.

  • Irish||

    Also, this happened:

    Salt Lake City newspaper claims Glenn Beck is a Nazi sympathizer.

    What evidence do they give? Well, Beck ran an exhibition about 'Independence Through History' which happened to contain Nazi memorabilia. The reason the Nazi memorabilia was in this art show was because the show was about the history of freedom and Nazism played a major role in 20th century freedom.

    Since progressives are insane, the mere fact that something related to the Nazis was part of a show means that Beck must be a Nazi.

    Goddammit, progressives. Why must you be so stupid that I am forced to defend Glenn Beck? Progressives always seem to force me to defend people I don't like because progressives are just so much worse.

  • PapayaSF||

    And yet, many lefty academics can be associated with socialist or even Communist organizations, but that never taints the left or the Democratic Party.

  • Irish||

    Also seems interesting that progressives try to censor art pieces and burn books provided those books and art pieces are created by icky conservatives.

    It takes some pretty big balls to call Beck a Nazi sympathizer in an article that seeks to infringe on his freedom of expression and uses propaganda to try and make the Tea Party seem subhuman.

    You know who else used propaganda to claim their opponents were subhuman...

  • Swamp Think||

    Stewie Griffin?

  • PapayaSF||

    They're also not terribly into free speech when it applies to what Limbaugh and Beck and Fox News say on the airwaves, and often take great pride in wanting to "shut them up" or "shut them down."

  • ||

    Walt Disney?

  • Steve G||

    I just gotta say, I love this "you know who else..." H&R meme.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Goddammit, progressives. Why must you be so stupid that I am forced to defend Glenn Beck? Progressives always seem to force me to defend people I don't like because progressives are just so much worse.

    It's funny how having principles means doing things you might not like.

    As opposed to the Progressives to whom any mention of Nazism is anathema; except when comparing their opponents to Nazis.

  • Gene||

    "It's funny how having principles means doing things you might not like."

    True dat

  • ||

    I've noticed something around town with the cops lately. It used to be that you never, ever saw a Washington State police car in Seattle. Maybe on 90 out to Bellevue doing a speed trap, but not in the city. And the only time you would see King County Sheriff vehicles was when they were picking someone up from city lockup to take them to King County jail, or down at the train station like this reporter.

    But lately, I have seen King County Sheriff's Deputies doing bike (as in bicycle) patrols, Washington State troopers directing traffic at construction sites, and both Sheriff and WSP working Mariners games. Just realize I had never, ever seen any of the above ever before; it was always, always, all SPD.

    So I've been theorizing that this is part of the Federal probe and some sort of "oversight". However, if this reporter is any indication, it isn't working very well.

  • Sevo||

    Dunno about Seattle, but Oakland CA has been 'hiring' the CHP to do patrols since the OPD is claimed to be understaffed.

  • ||

    SPD as far as I know haven't been complaining about being understaffed. How can they when they post 2-3 officers to construction sites all over the city (Seattle has a construction boom right now and it's everywhere, especially South Lake Union and Belltown)? Gotta get that overtime in, amirite?

    No, this seems to be something else.

  • Warrren||

    Maybe federal grant shenanigans. They get money for overtime or such but for some reason cannot spend it on their own guys so they bring in county goons who kickback a percentage.

    I'm guessing here, so uhhh no evidence or anything.

  • prolefeed||

    Here near Salt Lake City (on a pause in a 11,000 mile so far road trip) hardly any cops around.

    Unlike the South and the East Coast, where they enforced the fuck out of the speed limits.

  • Generic Stranger||

    Out west you can go for some pretty long stretches without seeing any cops. When I was going to college I had a 425 mile drive to go home and see my parents, which I did four or five times a year. Seeing more than two or three cops on that entire drive was remarkable. I don't think I ever saw more than a half dozen on any single trip.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I barely ever see cops in new Hampshire or Vermont. My guess is it's urban vs rural, not east vs west.

  • Dweebston||

    You wanted sequestration, you got it! SPD, Washington state troopers, county cops comingling like some kind of martial fraternity. What did you expect when you cut unlimited federal spending? /leftistchannelinggreggutfeld

  • PapayaSF||

    Given the crime rate in Oakland and the idiocy and political correctness of the city government, I would not doubt that the police department was understaffed.

  • CatoTheElder||

    OT: Snowden's attorney, Bruce Fein, writes letter to Obama. Obama Administration is "Orwellian", "cynical", "reprehensible", "scorn[ful] for due process, the rule of law, fairness, and the presumption of innocence".

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/ms.....s/dateline nbc/obama.pdf

  • Warrren||

    Meanwhile Obama's response just droned on and on.

  • Sevo||

    That's FUNNY!

  • PapayaSF||

    "Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this Presidency." —Barack Obama, January, 2009.

  • Paul.||

    He's evolved.

  • CatoTheElder||

  • General Butt Naked||

    sf'd up, dude.

  • CatoTheElder||

  • Sevo||

    Even if it wasn't, how about a hint?

  • CatoTheElder||

    Try this one:

    http://www.libertycrier.com/le.....ent-obama/

    It's an eloquent letter.

  • General Butt Naked||

    First comment:

    I feel sorry for Snowden’s Dad, but in this crazy world, we need those “sweeping spy programs”. No matter how despicable they appear to be, they are necessary to help protect us from the terrorists who seem to be everywhere today.

    Jesus.

  • Warrren||

    I expected more from Jesus.

  • General Butt Naked||

    OMG! SHRIKE WUZ RITE!!

  • Sevo||

    ..."the terrorists who seem to be everywhere today."

    I presume there were just tons of cites to make the point, right? I mean there should be hundreds of articles pointing out how there are terrorists all over and how the NSA is saving our sorry butts!
    I wonder if this pathetic excuse for a moral agent ends up checking under the bed each night.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I just can't understand those people that are truly afraid of terrorists. The chances of you dying by a terrorists hands is so minute that it approaches zero. And they always make the assumption that the less civil liberties we have the safer we'll be, but history doesn't show that.

    Bedwetters gonna bedwet.

  • DenverJay||

    And, these same people seem to assume that "terrorism" started with 9/11- or at the earliest the Munich Olympics in '72. Like nobody ever set off a bomb (or burned a cross) before the age of television. This country somehow survived, no thanks to our reckless officials who (usually) refused to snoop through our communications, seldom patted down old ladies at transit stations, paid at least lip-service to the 4th Amendment, and, in general, just did not stop to think about the children.

  • PapayaSF||

    There were earlier instances, of course, but modern Islamic terrorism more or less started with the PLO in the 1960s. Back then it was "Arab terrorism" but it spread through the region and now it's done in the name of Islam.

  • DenverJay||

    More than earlier instances. At the turn of the 20th century, anarchists were setting off bombs like crazy. Planes were bombed by passengers in the 1940's. Post civil war, even without the klan, there were all kinds of terrorist activities. Pre civl war, there were incidents like Harper's Ferry. Terrorist acts have been around since before this continent was founded, and the Dead White Men who wrote the Constitution were well aware of the tactic.

  • PapayaSF||

    Well, I think an important shift came when it became more the rule than the exception, and came from fanatics of a certain religion, and happened all over the world for decades. I also doubt if the death toll from all previous terror attacks added together amounts to more than a tiny fraction of the toll of modern Arab and Islamic terrorism.

  • Irish||

    I also doubt if the death toll from all previous terror attacks added together amounts to more than a tiny fraction of the toll of modern Arab and Islamic terrorism.

    That depends how you count terrorist attacks. If you mean 'killing civilian populations in order to frighten the remaining populace' then just about every ancient warlord was a worse terrorist than any modern Islamic terrorist.

    Tamerlane is alleged to have killed almost 5% of the planet's population. People like him make Al Qaeda look like pussies.

  • Paul.||

    Terrorist acts have been around since before this continent was founded, and the Dead White Men who wrote the Constitution were well aware of the tactic.

    Yeah, but clearly there was no solution. As you say, these terrorist attacks were common. When was the last time we had a Harper's Ferry? Exactly. Thanks to the brave actions of George W. Bush, and the doubling down on Bush policy by Hope-n-Change, we're nearly terrorist free, and now all you Glibertarians want to do is turn it all around and go back to Harper's FerryVille.

    Scan me, Mr. TSA agent, I've got nothing to hide...

  • CatoTheElder||

    The 9/11 attack was horrific, but it was the subsequent anthrax attacks that caused me to be more than a little bit concerned about the terrorists' capabilities.

    Then, of course, we learned that one or more agents of the US government were behind the anthrax. He (they) was a rogue agent of the US government, but a US government employee nonetheless.

    My sense of security would be greatly enhanced if the entire US federal government just shut down.

  • ||

    Cowardly pussies.

  • Knarf Yenrab (prev. An0nB0t)||

    I wish to God some of these little idiots had lived during the Cold War. Even the end of the Cold War.

    We live in the safest and richest period in human history and all they can do is ask daddy to lock their bedroom doors to keep the monsters out.

  • Dweebston||

    Actually it's keeping the lights on and checking under the bed and in the closet and the inbox and the outbox and the inbox and outbox of all the kids on the block just in case somebody, somewhere has possibly corresponded with monsters.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    That's cute, but I can beat that.

    Mithradates VI, King of Pontus, conquered the Roman Province of Asia Minor. To send a message to his Roman enemies, Mithradates ordered the execution of every Roman and foreigner in Asia Minor. Approximately 80,000 people died on the same day, at the same hour.

    Fuck a 9/11, Mithradates brought that hardcore terrorism.

  • General Butt Naked||

    From the commencement of your administration, your secrecy of the National Security Agency’s Orwellian surveillance programs had frustrated a national conversation over their legality, necessity, or morality. That secrecy (combined with congressional nonfeasance) provoked Edward’s disclosures, which sparked a national conversation which you have belatedly and cynically embraced. Legislation has been introduced in both the House of Representatives and Senate to curtail or terminate the NSA’s programs, and the American people are being educated to the public policy choices at hand. A commanding majority now voice concerns over the dragnet surveillance of Americans that Edward exposed and you concealed. It seems mystifying to us that you are prosecuting Edward for accomplishing what you have said urgently needed to be done!

    Dang man, I love it when someone actually says something of worth and honesty. Take it to 'em, guys.

  • Matrix||

    Do as I do, not as I say.

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    Mighty fine writing.

    I wonder if Obama even read it, or if some low-level staffer skimmed it and reported up the chain of command that there was nothing to see.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Here's a manual for commercial production of hot peppers in Trinidad.

    That should hold you over until this thing gets fixed.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    You know, as someone who lives on Matouk's, I'm actually interested in reading that.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I live for summertime and homegrown peppers. I have thai, red savinas, ghost, yellow habs, cayennes, and some weird purple bird peppers growing this year.

    I'm gonna make some sauce with the ghost and savinas. If I have enough I'll ship you a bottle.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I'd appreciate it if you did. Thanks for the offer!

  • General Butt Naked||

    No problem.

  • Warrren||

    Really? You're going to accept a sauce from somebody on this blog?

  • ||

    I had the same thought. Just a few hours ago we were pontificating on what substance exactly exudes from Episiarch's penis, while I was described as anally violating a goat.

    I wouldn't TOUCH anything anybody on here sent me in the mail. I guaran-damn-tee you it'll be covered in some combination of feces, semen, and blood, both animal and human.

  • Warrren||

    Well then that means you wont be able to use the special collectors edition map to the next meeting of the Capitalist Goat n' Orphan Sacrificers Club.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I don't know, people that talk like that are usually pretty honest. It's the goody two shoes that worry me.

    No sauce for you!

  • General Butt Naked||

    I don't know, people that talk like that are usually pretty honest. It's the goody two shoes that worry me.

    No sauce for you!

  • Dweebston||

    Habenero shavings add a mild piquancy and a welcome flavor to dishes, but I've yet to get past jalapenos as a primary ingredient in dishes. This from a New Mexican, who as I'm sure you know are suckled on green chile peppers.

  • ||

    Smoked red savina, ground to a powder, is insanely awesome. We sprinkle it on mac and cheese. A fellow named Jim Campbell used to produce it out of Indiana, but he's now sadly retired.

  • Dave Krueger||

    Cops will continue to abuse their powers as long as there are no consequences. And THERE-ARE-NO-CONSEQUECES.

  • Warrren||

    It's the totality of the circus!

  • Rich||

  • General Butt Naked||

    How about this doozy from the WSJ.

    Fed doves beat fed hawks in prediction powers. Remember, inflation doesn't, hasn't and never will exist. Now excuse me while I spend my paycheck on ramen noodles.

  • ||

    If you guys can't see the article through the link (as I can't), google "Federal Reserve 'Doves' Beat 'Hawks' in Economic Prognosticating" instead. WSJ paywalls don't block Google search result links.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Good call. It's letting me view this one for some reason.

    FTA:

    As the U.S. emerged from recession in the summer of 2009,

    Oh, so the shitty economy of the last 4 years is just in my imagination? Thank gawd Dear Leader saved us. It was nightmare. BOOSH!

  • Dweebston||

    In fairness, the recession "officially" ended in 2009. I suppose it reached some low inflection point, and remained stagnant.

    I'm beginning to think the mediators of the American economic machine actually believe their job encompasses nothing less than preventing the economy from slipping into the depths of Weinmar territory, and that private initiatives are responsible for actually pulling the economy up from the just-short-of-hyperinflationary, there-but-for-the-grace-of-Bernanke depths to which it sunk. That our economy might reflect the artificial credit buoying it up matters not a whit.

  • Dweebston||

    And within a post my atrocious ad hoc spelling of shit is correct. Weimar.

  • Warrren||

    It's Weiner, you clod.

  • ||

    Weiner Germany?

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    A real Aso:

    "Aso says Japan could learn from Nazis on constitutional reforms

    "TOKYO — Japan’s gaffe-prone deputy prime minister has said Tokyo could learn from Nazi Germany when it comes to constitutional reform, prompting a rebuke from a Jewish human rights group."

    http://www.japantoday.com/cate.....3-08-01_AM

  • Sevo||

    “The German Weimar constitution changed, without being noticed, to the Nazi German constitution. Why don’t we learn from their tactics?”

    I know full well that WWII is not a 'major interest' in Japan. In fact, I have a privately published monograph where a highly educated and successful Japanese business man claims the Baatan Death March was just a matter of the Japanese not having enough trucks available to transport the prisoners.
    I would guess that the PM is equally ignorant of that part of history. everything I've read makes it quite clear the change was *noticed*!

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    The Bataan Scenic Hike?

  • Generic Stranger||

    The Bataan Marathon?

  • Generic Stranger||

    What, too soon?

  • Warrren||

    Your joke bombed.

  • Generic Stranger||

    Perhaps it needed more time in the oven pressure cooker.

  • Sevo||

    Hmm, am I detecting some word play here?

  • Warrren||

    Damn Sevo-Bot, your programmer needs to update you.

  • Archduke Trousersenthusiast||

    So, racist?

  • General Butt Naked||

    I love that the canadian newspaper is so innocently naive to put a goofy spin on some KKK hate crimin'.

    Seriously though, I would not want that in my front yard.

  • PapayaSF||

    "I don't want any disgruntled chicken-purchasers in my driveway."

  • ||

    If it's rightwing, yes. If it's leftwing, no. If it's neither, yes and assume rightwing sentiments are behind it.
    ....
    Now,let me have a look.

  • mr simple||

    there's an actual KFC about eight kilometres down the road.

    I'm sorry, we don't have kilometres in the US.

  • Zeb||

    The only thing racist going on is automatically thinking that putting a fried chicken sign somewhere might be racist.

  • ||

    I assume this reporter is mistaken about what city he was in, because Dunphy assured me that the SPD is on of the most professional departments in the country.

    Or is that bar so low that such behavior still allows them to clear it?

  • Warrren||

    Yeah the difference between the best agency and, say NOLA, is the length of Dunphy's penis.

  • Generic Stranger||

    So, microscopic?

  • Warrren||

    Got it in one.

  • ||

    I don't want to "[get] it in" anywhere.

  • Warrren||

    Don't worry, you wont feel a thing. STOP RESISTING!

  • Warrren||

    Chris Christie's wife is in this photo

    http://opinion.latimes.com/.a/.....970d-640wi

    Now they have kids and and probably enjoy a normal sexual relationship which would include cunnilingus.

    So imagine that fat bastard's jowls slapping into her wet pussy over and over again and his fleshy forehead rubbing against her pubic area as he licks her with the same greedy attention he applies to the last remnants of his plate of linguini.

    This free and horrible mental image brought to you by McDonald's: makers of the McDouble (remember to add Mac sauce!).

  • ||

    From the look on that hideous bitch's face, she's imagining that very thing.

  • Almanian!||

    Her eyes are WAY too close together.

    That explains his attraction to her.

  • DenverJay||

    Who cares if they are professional or not? The Denver cops are PIGS, threatening to beat people, and often doing so. They also shoot old men laying in bed after using fire department ladders to gain entry to second story windows with no warrant. One of the police departments that is constantly doing no-knock raids at the wrong address. Very unprofessional.
    Meanwhile, their buddies to the west, in Lakewood, are as professional as can be. And they are also goose-stepping storm troopers who will run you in for the slightest infraction. So, if the choice is between unprofessional thugs and highly professional zealots, why do I give a damn?

  • Warrren||

    Because civics class and freedom or something? Separation of Powers? Manifest Destiny?

    Not sure, really.

  • DenverJay||

    To be honest, if you kiss ass enough with a denver cop, you might bullshit your way out of it. I've seen it done, and done it myself. Because they are unprofessional. Lakewood, however, no chance. They are by the book, and refuse to give any leeway on the matter. Ahh, do I have some stories...

  • DenverJay||

    ok, one quick one: Back when LQs were closed on Sundays, my local LQ owner called me because she had just installed new, automatic locks on her door, and had accidentally locked herself out after stepping out to throw away some boxes. Close to midnight, a crowd had gathered to get their booze for Sunday. So, I show up, remove the metal bars over the door, and then proceed to remove the plate glass from the door. Everyone else goes in, and commerce ensues, while I begin putting the door back together. At that point I hear "Freeze!" and looked up to see Lakewood's finest pointing guns at me. They were in full combat gear, had parked around the corner, and ran up in stealth mode. So, holding an expensive, sharp, and dangerous 6 foot sheet of glass, I watched events unfold. It was soon settled that the owner was, in fact, the owner, that I was working under contract, and that the various customers were legitimate customers. (Apparently a passer by had called in that a mob was looting the store.) Despite all this, the police had made contact for a legitimate purpose, so they figured that they then had the right to ask ID of every person there, ran everyone, arrested some for outstanding warrants, and then, drove down the street and stopped anyone carrying booze and stopped and ran their IDs.
    A police state is a police state whether the police are professional or not.

  • Paul.||

    LQs? Larry Queens? I'm surprised Dairy Queen hasn't sued.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    +9?

    That's my estimate of the number of times I was arrested or detained by Denver's/Aurora's finest in the 6 years I lived there.

    Nice weather and hot women, but fascist as hell.

  • Dweebston||

    Oh, come on, no run-down about your record? You can't drop a bomb about being arrested every nine months and walk away.

  • Warrren||

    He was out randomly worshiping whims.

  • ||

    Probably the usual for his sort of criminal scum. You know: speeding tickets, jaywalking, tall grass, the big stuff.

  • Paul.||

    Denver's police chief Gerry Whitman admitted Monday afternoon that a police officer shot and killed the wrong man after he allegedly pointed a "silver object" at the officer -- an object that turned out to be a soda can.

    So... if the right man had pointed the soda can at him, the killing would be justified?

  • Almanian!||

    So Shaggy 2 Dope and...the other one...were on last night's Red Eye.

    Fuck. Never heard them - talk - before. Wow. That was - something.

    Makin' Detroit PROUD!

    /Juggalo love

  • Warrren||

    I believe the other one is Scoobie Doobie.

  • Almanian!||

    that sounds right - thank you, Warren!

  • Warrren||

    Oh....hey, no problemo.

  • Generic Stranger||

    I'm holding out for it all being a performance art stunt and that both of them are being played simultaneously by Andy Warhol.

  • Warrren||

    Elvis is dead, you asshole!

  • Generic Stranger||

    He ain't dead, he just went home. /Tommy Lee Jones

  • juris imprudent||

    No, The King is living incognito in an old folks home. /Bruce Campbell in Bubba-Ho-Tep

  • Warrren||

    One of the great movies* of all time.

    I differentiate between movies and films in my personal classification system.

  • Zeb||

    Violent Jay, I believe.

  • dinkster||

    magnets, how do they work?

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Marion, when this reporter comes into the police station to ask these questions and you become the owner of the newspaper your analogy / threat will be valid.

  • Sevo||

    "Marion, when this reporter comes into the police station to ask these questions and you become the owner of the newspaper your analogy / threat will be valid"

    Exactly right. The cop needs to learn to treat his bosses better, or get fired.

  • General Butt Naked||

    C'mon man, that's unfair.

    I'm sure Officer Marion let's everybody who's house he wants to search dig through his wife's undies.

    What a fucking prick. Do they have some sort of prick verification test that they give to cops before they let them on the force? Has anyone ever met a cop that wasn't a total prick?

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I have known a couple of cops socially, and they weren't prices. However, I only interacted with them off duty. Every time I have dealt with a cop on duty they have been a prick, or directing traffic.

  • Warrren||

    Prices? Princes? Pisces?

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Autocorrect from pricks.

  • DenverJay||

    The few times I have had a good interaction with the police it was always a State Trooper.

  • ||

    My family has always found the State Troopers here in Indiana to be pretty nice guys. It's the local cops who make it their personal mission to get you. Personal anecdote disclaimer, of course.

  • DenverJay||

    Hell, I even remember picking up a chick at a bar, she was ready, you know? And then she says she's a cop. Mr. Happy became Mr. Turtle. Then the bartender told me later that the skank wasn't even a cop, but had once been a cop, or tried out to be a cop, or something. Don't care. Anyone who wants to be a storm trooper ain't gonna get to meet Mr. Happy.

  • DenverJay||

    In fact, the only human lower than a cop is a bitch who wants to be a cop and can't

  • Michael S. Langston||

    Maybe she failed for being too smart?

    Though just the possibility that it may be true makes me laugh given that she was lying in the first place.

    If anything, she likely failed for being too dumb.

  • ||

    I think that's a little harsh, really. There are probably lots of people who buy into the "serve and protect" line and think if they're cops they'll be doing some good. That was my thought when I considered a career in law enforcement.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    I agree with you that many people who go into LEO careers do so to serve and protect.

    My reply was 1/2 joking, though with factual basis - I don't have time to look, but there's been more than one case of a police department not hiring someone due to them having a high IQ.

    The argument being most police work is mundane and repetitive and those with high IQs are bad for those positions; and I believe courts have upheld their right to do this.

    So she could've in fact been denied a position due to a high IQ.

    However, as I don't know her from anyone, but given that it appears she lied about being a cop - my guess is a high IQ isn't what prevented her entry into an LEO career. Jokingly I claimed maybe it was the opposite :)

  • ||

    Two biggest bullies in my high school...not smart enough to be cops...both prison guards.

  • Steve G||

    I've had two folks in the AF who worked for me asked if I'd be a reference for them when they got out to be a cop. One was a goofy dude (Lt-Capt) from WV who spoke less like a hillbilly and more like Keanu Reeves in Bill&Teds;. He's probably harmless these days. The other dude (E-4) I knew for a fact he was in it for the power trip. He was going to be / is an arrogant, abusive prick. Fortunately for both of these guys, no one called me about them. I thought about preemptively calling re: the latter, but was concerned about how confidential that may or may not be.

  • Paul.||

    Anyone who wants to be a storm trooper ain't gonna get to meet Mr. Happy.

    Wanting to get to Mr. Happy notwithstanding, I used to want to be a cop. But my fantasy about being a cop was standing over a murder victim at 6am while sipping on a cup of coffee, eating a breakfast sandwich and cracking wise with my partners. Essentially, I wanted to be Bunk from The Wire decades before the show had been conceived. Even as a youth, I had no desire to be a storm trooper patrol officer.

    Tickets, bullshit arrests, DV calls... leave that shit to the patrol fairies. Patrol fairies go to roll coll. We don't go to roll call...

  • Zeb||

    I know a couple of cops who are pretty nice, even when on duty. And a whole bunch more who are pricks.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I wonder if they would threaten Doherty if he was writing alt-text for pictures of them.

  • Rrabbit||

    I read "one of the worst misconduct histories in the King's Office."

  • Alice Bowie||

    When a police officer kicks someone handcuffed or stuff like that, this should not be a departmental thing. This should be treated as a criminal matter.

    When cops are found to be involved with Drugs, they are suspended without pay. When they kick someone while handcuffed, they go on vacation for months and vindicated.

  • DenverJay||

    The police should be like a jury: randomly selected citizens who don't want the job and are drafted into it for a short time

  • ||

    Same for congressmen.

  • Sevo||

    OK, how about some just plain bureaucratic nastiness?
    "Ride-share drivers cited at SFO for trespassing"
    The cabbies are pissed at the competition and they've enlisted the sleazy functionaries at the airport:
    "Airport officials have been making citizen’s arrests and issuing citations to ride-share drivers who pick up or drop off passengers at San Francisco International Airport."
    Citizen's arrests? For providing transportation. Yes, folks, don't screw with officialdom.
    http://blog.sfgate.com/techchr.....espassing/

  • DenverJay||

    So, why don't we just start citizen arresting them right back? How about the next time some cop flashes his lights so he can run a red light, then turns them off as soon as he is through the intersection, we pull him over and arrest him? Might be hard to pull off, but man think about how cool it would be to actually do it?

  • PapayaSF||

    You first.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    Good luck

  • Tman||

    Did you guys cover the Popehat piece about the Bank that repo'd the wrong house already?

    Want To Burglarize A House With Impunity, Then Nickle-And-Dime The Restitution? It Helps To Be A Bank.

    (on phone with corporate management) "So, yeah, um... Boss? Yeah hi, Jerry in acquisitions...yeah....so here's the thing..we uh..we repo'd the wrong house.....Hello? Boss?"

  • PapayaSF||

    I remember reading back in the '70s that due to some mixup a wrong house was demolished. Turns out it was rented by a grad student and his thesis was there, with no copies. Oops.

  • Tman||

    So she asked for $18K, and they said "produce the receipts."

    Ken writes the two funniest paragraphs I've read lately here in response-

    Mr. Thorne is also demanding receipts for Katie's things, and has told her the bank "isn't paying retail." Katie, like many people, doesn't keep receipts for everything, not anticipating that a bank will burglarize her house. Moreover, to the extent she does keep receipts, she keeps them in her house, because once again, she fails to anticipate that a bank will break into the house, take her receipts, throw them away, and then demand that she produce them. Katie also failed to anticipate that someone could burglarize your house and, when called upon to pay you so you can replace your things, sneer that replacements from a second-hand store are good enough for you.

  • Tman||

    and this-" (My experience as a criminal defense attorney is that judges look very unfavorably on the "the property I stole/defrauded/destroyed is overvalued and I shouldn't have to pay that much; let them replace it with something cheaper" argument.) "

  • pmains||

    They misspelled, "tase the freedom."

  • MappRapp||

    Dude has no clue whats going on over there. I mean like wow.

    www.Anon-Top.tk

  • Robert||

    I'd've just asked the cop to move a little to the side, saying he was blocking my shot. I bet I'd have no problem.

  • Matthew Brown||

    This is why I like Seattle's anarchist contingent. They're amusing from a safe distance, and they live for punching cops in the face. They distract SPD from harassing everyone else, and I thank them for that.

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