Cops Who Terrorized a Woman in Her Home Also Tackled a Random Guy

TacklePublic DomainDo you remember the case of Louise Goldsberry, whose home was searched by U.S. marshals and Sarasota, Florida, police on the grounds that she was scared of them, so she must be harboring the suspect they sought? That's right, being scared of strangers pointing guns through the window was all the justification they claimed to need to handcuff her and her boyfriend and toss the place. Well, it turns out that the same crack squad of manhunters also tackled a random guy sitting on the curb and reading a book becase he, sort of, looked like the man they wanted. There's a problem here, and it's not just with one over-enthusiastic posse.

Tom Lyons has the story at the Sarasota Herald-Tribune:

Cookie decorator Elliott Stiner left his job at Westfield Sarasota Square mall on Wednesday afternoon last week and walked to the bus stop.

The 22-year-old sat on the curb and started reading a book.

He didn't notice then, but Stiner thinks he was followed out by several men. He had no clue they were there until a man spoke behind him.

“Hey, buddy!” the voice said.

As Stiner turned, the men were on top of him and tackled him, pressing his forehead into the pavement.

Next thing he knew he was in handcuffs.

The man the U.S. marshals (because Stiner's attackers were marshals) wanted was Kyle Riley, suspected of sexually assaulting a young relative. That's a despicable crime, but it doesn't seem to make him such a dangerous desperado that a game of "kill the carrier" on the nearest fellow with a similar build comes off as obviously justified. Especially when he's sitting down in public with his nose buried in a book.

Why, asks Stiner, was there no "Freeze, put your hands up"?

As it turns out, of course, Elliott Stiner is not Kyle Riley. But while the U.S. Marshals Service promises that it's looking into the tackling of Stiner and the terrorizing of Goldsberry, the larger issue is that what happened in Sarasota is only a concentrated dose of what American policing has become.

Oakland cops aren't the only ones to respond to public protests with military tactics — that's become almost par for the course. Concord, New Hampshire, is acquiring Bearcat armored SWAT vehicles to counter the dread menace of "[g]roups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire." In fact, plenty of jurisdictions are getting such toys, since the federal Department of Homeland Security foots the bill to supply a wide variety of military-style goodies to police departments across the country.

Former Reasoner Radley Balko's new book, Rise of the Warrior Cop, documents the transformation of American police officers into something that all too often resembles occupying troops. Ultimately, it's the story of how we ended up with perfectly innocent cookie decorators getting their faces ground into the pavement by people paid by their taxes.

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  • The Late P Brooks||

    Look directly at them-

    Avert your gaze-

    Speed up-

    Slow own-

    Alter course-

    Head straight for them-

    REASONABLE SUSPICION!

  • SugarFree||

    You forgot "drive the speed limit" and "be Mexican."

  • CE||

    Tonto Indian.

  • ||

    The terrorists have won! Because they're everywhere - on our streets, in our donut shops, openly carrying guns, and wearing their terrorist uniforms in broad daylight. Shit, they've even unionized!

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Individual Christians, as decent human beings, argue around the clear meaning of this. However, it means what it clearly says and has been used as a club to stifle dissent by Christian leadership when it suits their purposes, even if they also talk around it when it doesn't suit their either:

    Romans 13:1, New International Version
    Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

    THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

  • Hugh Akston||

    Will you just die already you fucking sockpuppet?

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Did I missquote the Bible?

  • ||

    So go post it on a Christian website.

  • Killazontherun||

    Except for the Book of Revelations, it's all rubbish. I have a new interpretation in the works that is going to get me the massive cult following I've always wanted in life. For a bit of a preview, rethink the concept of the afterlife as the afterextinction and brother, we are talking about a whole different ball game.

  • ||

    What's in it for the enterprising disciple who decides to get in on the ground floor?

  • CE||

    You get to help the temple priestesses prepare for the ceremonies.

  • ||

    That's not a eunuch's job, I hope.

  • Killazontherun||

    Comet rides!

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Romans 13:1-2, New International Version
    1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.

    Titus 3:1
    Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good,

    1 Peter 2:13
    Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority,

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    Felix 1:1 Ages fucking old version

    Mind your own goddamed business.

  • Dweebston||

    what happened in Sarasota is only a concentrated dose of what American policing has become.

    I disagree. No dogs shot, no city blocks cordoned off, no blind shooting into vehicles, just two people terrorized and humiliated by public officials. I'd say their dose is rather diffuse by the standards set around the country.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's largely a retirement community.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Cookie decorators smell like CAKE.

    It was inevitable.

  • Dweebston||

    Suspect was in possession paraphenelia belonging to a class of substances known to elicit the interest of young and vulnerable children, a tactic often used by criminals like our fugitive.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Also he smelled vaguely like donuts.

  • Hugh Akston||

    The man the U.S. marshals wanted was Kyle Riley, suspected of sexually assaulting a young relative.

    I love Rilo Kiley!

  • A Serious Man||

    In a just America those cops would be arrested, herded into the town square, tied to a post where citizens could throw rotten fruit at them, tarred, feathered, and then run out of town on the rail.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    You forgot the part where they would be sodomized by a boar in heat.

  • ||

    A rail...run out of town on a rail.

    The practice was to hoist someone up on a split log rail while they straddled it. The sharp edge of the pie-slice shaped rail would be what they sat on. Several men holding the rail on their shoulders litter style would then run carrying the exiled person out beyond the wall or town limits.

    If you we're really bad your hands were bound behind your back and you might also be carried through a gauntlet of clubs.

    People did not always survive being run out of town on a rail.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    There was a version of it in O Brother, Where Art Thou?. And also I think in John Adams, along with the gruesome tar and feathering.

  • CE||

    Best movie ever. And no, I'm not referring to John Adams.

  • A Serious Man||

    I enjoyed John Adams but they sacrificed much historical accuracy for the sake of drama.

    Particularly egregious was depicting Samuel Adams leading a lynch mob to tar and feather a customs officer. Sam Adams was opposed to mob violence because he felt it undermined the Patriot cause.

  • ||

    Actually they often died from the tarring and feathering as well. The tar was hot and the feather quills would puncture and afraid the burned skin. Naturally when the tar cooled it was impossible to remove without removing the skin as well.

  • JD the elder||

    "the feather quills would puncture and afraid the burned skin"

    Typo aside, you got a source for that? That sounds like purest urban legend. We're just talking about feather-pillow type feathers here, and they were just shaken over the hot tar. I have a lot of trouble seeing how they'd puncture someone's skin.

  • A Serious Man||

    From what I've read it really depended on the disposition of the mob. In Colonial America tarring and featherings were relatively rare, and most often involved pine tar, which was sticky at room temperature and wouldn't burn the skin. It was intended more as a form of public humiliation than torture.

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    That's how I always understood it. Not boiling road asphalt or roofing tar. Pine tar. Probably did have to be heated some in winter, but only to summer temperatures. Of course, a truly deserving rat might get more, but death was rare.

    The feathers-puncturing-skin bit is twaddle.

  • Raston Bot||

    Is kill the carrier like smear the queer?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    That's what we called it. Kids can be so cruel.

    I'm going to instruct my kids to call it Stop Resisting.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    So, should we now play "Cowboy Cops and Citizens"?

    I don't want to be the citizen

  • Finrod||

    I'm reminded of Save The Citizen in the movie Sky High (superhero high school basically), except it would be Club The Citizen, where you try to inflict as much punishment to an innocent citizen as you can, but being indicted by a grand jury would lower your score, and if you go so far as to be convicted in a court of law, then game over.

  • Pro Libertate||

    What's interesting is that we used the latter interchangeably with "Keepaway." I'm not sure any of us knew there was any significance to the word "queer."

  • ||

    I remember one time at my middle school the principal made an announcement about that game. He said we were no longer allowed to play "Tackle the Man... with the Ball".

  • Finrod||

    Back when I was in school they just called it Murderball.

  • ||

    The problem is that DAs can't really go after bad cops because the cops have too much political clout and, honestly, are too much of a physical threat.

    One small criticism Too Chilly; they do not resemble an occupying army.

  • CE||

    Why not? Because they live in homes and not a fort?

  • ||

    They don't resemble an occupying army. They are one.

  • ||

    +1

  • ||

    No, because they're more like a gang or the mafia than they are an occupying army.

  • Nazdrakke||

    Why not? Because they live in homes and not a fort?

    No because they aren't that well behaved.

  • PapayaSF||

    Great picture. I had no idea Hitler played football.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    You know who else you had no idea played football?

  • Paul.||

    Why, asks Stiner, was there no "Freeze, put your hands up"?

    Again, and my voice is hoarse from repeating it, that's television stuff. TV cops are WAY behind the times. TV cops are much more patient, less trigger-happy, less violent, and much more likely to handle an arrest or perp takedown with a couple of uniforms sent to knock on the door or at most, point a gun at him, tell him to get on the ground, cuffing him and taking him to the station-house.

  • Drake||

    When did the standard procedure for all arrests become a gang tackle and beat-down? When I was a kid, if the cops caught you, they just cuffed you and tossed you in the backseat. They didn't beat people up or mace them unless they put up a serious fight.

  • Paul.||

    I estimate around the time they started firing all the officers who weren't on board with quotas.

    I know it's anecdotal, but the few conversations I had with cops in my youth, a few of them veteran cops, almost always said, "In 20 years on the force, I never drew my weapon". Imagine a cop saying that today. You can guess how disappointed I was, wanting to hear dramatic tales of high-speed chases, frenetic shootouts and fight-scenes with Truly Bad Dudes. In these times, that's called "Wednesday". Nowadays, I think the best you'd do is get, "In 20 years on the force, I only killed eight dogs, and broke my hand on a perps face once."

  • Pro Libertate||

    I could swear that there used to be a statistic about most cops never drawing their guns on duty. Doubt that's true today, discounting those cops who just raise revenue for the municipality.

  • ||

    This x 1000.

    My father-in-law was with the sheriffs office in Sulphur La for over 50 years. After getting off street patrol he kept a Winchester 94 in the car and never carried a gun on his person. In all those years he used it once...shot the radiator out of a truck that was trying to run a road block.

    Most of the cops I know now carry glocks with 4 mags, a back-up with two mags, an AR with 100 rounds and one or two combat style knives and it is rare to find one that hasn't used them.

    As has been pointed out before...pussies who want the adrenalin and glory but too cowardly to go to real war.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    They'll claim they're fighting the "Drug War". But the Bloods and the Crips have been at peace for 20 years now. Street violence is nothing like it was during the crack epidemic of the late 80's to mid 90's.

    There is one reason and one reason only why the Federal government deems it necessary to arm every podunk town's police department with military surplus. Think about it.

  • Paul.||

    I need a second opinion. As a conceal carry license holder, and a regular carrier, my goal is to never draw my weapon. Almost sounds strange saying it.

  • Drake||

    That is the goal of anyone sane. I've loaded my rifle before real combat patrols and thought "I sure hope I don't have to use this".

  • ||

    the federal Department of Homeland Security foots the bill to supply a wide variety of military-style goodies to police departments across the country.

    This is a perfect example of why we're supposed to have a "firewall" between national defense and domestic policing.
    Why the hell is Homeland Security, a department formed in response to a foreign terrorist threat, providing money for domestic police departments to arm themselves against domestic policial dissenters?

    I can completely understand why homeland security would want to have some contacts with local police departments, for the purpose of monitoring suspect foreign nationals. But the activities of Free Staters, Occupy New Hampshire, and even groups like the Hutaree militia, are not Homeland Security's job.

  • Hyperion||

    Free Staters, Occupy New Hampshire, and even groups like the Hutaree militia, are not Homeland Security's job

    You forgot to mention the real menaces, Tea Baggers, and crazed anti-government Libertarians.

  • ||

    In other words, Free Staters.

  • Hyperion||

    See how they're hiding behind that Free Stater label? You see! Crazed anarchists, all of them! Enemies of the state, terrorists!

  • CE||

    In this case, the government parasites have actually identified the threat.

  • Paul.||

    Why the hell is Homeland Security, a department formed in response to a foreign terrorist threat, providing money for domestic police departments to arm themselves against domestic policial dissenters?

    With providing funds come strings. Delicious strings to lever of power at the local level.

  • ||

    "Why the hell is Homeland Security, a department formed in response to a foreign terrorist threat, providing money for domestic police departments to arm themselves against domestic policial dissenters?"

    Why do you think?

  • Hyperion||

    Cookie decorator? Why does anyone need to be a cookie decorator? I don't like cookies. Why would anyone like cookies?

    He could have had dangerous marijuana cookies, after all, praise our shining heroes in blue for saving the children from this could be menace.

  • ||

    COOKIES CAUSE OBESITY!

  • CE||

    You call that a tackle? That was a "nudge".

  • Drake||

    That Aug 12th hearing in Concord should be interesting. I know I would have something to say if my town was buying an armored vehicle - even if it was with my federal taxes instead of property taxes.

  • Hyperion||

    But, it's for the children. Why do you hate the children? If the cops don't get this, child molesters will run free in the streets and drink the blood of the innocent snowflakes.

  • np||

    Concord, New Hampshire, is acquiring Bearcat armored SWAT vehicles to counter the dread menace of "[g]roups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire."

    Last month, in NH:
    Larken Rose - Why Speak of Violence? - Porcfest X

    elaborating on the ideas expressed in:
    When Should You Shoot a Cop?

  • CE||

    Or as an actual patriot once said:

    These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask, gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    You know, I'm consistently disappointed that PorcFest never lives up to the image of what my perverted mind thinks it should be.

  • ||

    Looking at the totality of circs, this was a good tackle.

  • Andrew S.||

    Needs more random acronyms.

  • Tim||

    "He's making a list, he's checking it twice.
    He's gonna find out who's naughty and nice.
    Santa Claus is coming to town."

    THIS IS WHAT FOUR YEAR OLDS ACTUALLY BELIVE.

  • The Last American Hero||

    As has been said many times, if the settlements don't come out of their pension fund or their pocket, this behavior doesn't stop.

  • Juice||

    Concord, New Hampshire, is acquiring Bearcat armored SWAT vehicles to counter the dread menace of "[g]roups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire."

    Damn, they just come right out and say it.

  • MappRapp||

    Cops in general are jsut stupid.

    www.Anon-Top.tk

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