Frank Rich: White Supremacist Holocaust Museum Murderer Was an "antigovernment gunman"

Wondering how Frank "Tea Partiers are making a 'small-scale mimicry of Kristallnacht'" Rich is coping after President Barack Obama declared flatly that heated political discourse "did not" cause the Tucson shooting? Like someone who doesn't know Thomas L. Friedman's First Rule of Holes, that's how:

Since Obama's ascension, we've seen repeated incidents of political violence. Just a short list would include the 2009 killing of three Pittsburgh police officers by a neo-Nazi Obama-hater; last year's murder-suicide kamikaze attack on an I.R.S. office in Austin, Tex.; and the California police shootout with an assailant plotting to attack an obscure liberal foundation obsessively vilified by Beck.

Obama said, correctly, on Wednesday that "a simple lack of civility" didn't cause the Tucson tragedy. It didn't cause these other incidents either. What did inform the earlier violence — including the vandalism at Giffords's office — was an antigovernment radicalism as rabid on the right now as it was on the left in the late 1960s. That Loughner was likely insane, with no coherent ideological agenda, does not mean that a climate of antigovernment hysteria has no effect on him or other crazed loners out there. Nor does Loughner's insanity mitigate the surge in unhinged political zealots acting out over the last two years. [...]

Have politicians stoked the pre-Loughner violence by advocating that citizens pursue "Second Amendment remedies" or be "armed and dangerous"? We don't know. What's more disturbing is what Republican and conservative leaders have not said. Their continuing silence during two years of simmering violence has been chilling.

A few unexpected voices have expressed alarm. After an antigovernment gunman struck at Washington's Holocaust museum in June 2009, Shepard Smith of Fox News noted the rising vitriol in his e-mail traffic and warned on air that more "amped up" Americans could be "getting the gun out." [...]

Bold bits mine. For those keeping score at home, the go-to two-word media descriptor of Holocaust shooter James Von Brunn was not "antigovernment gunman," but rather (and rather appropriately) "white supremacist," or "neo-Nazi." That's because he was this guy:

In a recent blog post, Von Brunn wrote that Hitler's "worst mistake" was that "he didn't gas the Jews."

And I would go a little bit further than Rich's insincerely agnostic "we don't know" when it comes to whether this particular bit of "pre-Loughner violence" was inspired by Sarah Palin or Sharron Angle or Michele Bachmann. Given that Von Brunn's first attempt at ultra-violent Washington mayhem came in 1981, when he brought a sawed-off shotgun, revolver, and knife to the Federal Reserve in a bizarre plot to kidnap Zbigniew Brzezinski and Paul Volcker, about the only way to pin the basic formulation of Von Brunn's vicious nutbaggery on Sarah Barracuda is if the guy was a serious aficionado of high school girls basketball in Alaska.

As hard as it may be to believe sometimes, there just aren't many voices in America yelling (or even whispering) kill the Jews. But as Jesse Walker noted in his classic Reason piece "The Paranoid Center," which begins with a meditation on the uses of Von Brunn, there is no shortage of voices eager to pin the insane bigotries of selected murderers on entire populations of unconnected political actors. If Tea Party-inspired violence was as widespread as the Frank Riches of the world fear, then they probably wouldn't have to wrap so many unrelated assassins in the Gadsden Flag.

UPDATE: P.J. O'Rourke has more on the New York Times' use of the word "antigovernment" over at The Weekly Standard.

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  • Old Mexican||

    "That Loughner was likely insane, with no coherent ideological agenda, does not mean that a climate of antigovernment hysteria has no effect on him or other crazed loners out there."



    "The fact that Loughner is likely insane does not mean that the Lady Gaga hysteria did not have an effect on him or other crazed loners out there."

    See? This "argument from ignorance" shit is easy!!!

  • Jeffersonian||

    Only someone in denial would try to pin this on Lady Gaga. J-Lo is clearly the motivation for Loughner's rampage.

  • ||

    You're so out of touch. J-Lo? Lady Gaga? Ke$ha is responsible; no one else.

  • Karma W||

    No. It was Drowning Pool. We have proof positive it was Drowning Pool in the killer's diabolical youtube postings.

    And their angry rhetoric is even affecting parrots!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uguXNL93fWg

  • Spiny Norman||

    SPLC had better keep an eye on that parrot.

  • ||

    I blame Warren.

  • alan||

    Elizabeth Warren, God damn her! How many more sprees will her smugness cause before the irresponsible media finally ignores her?

  • Bingo||

    I love how his argument is that society needs to conform in a way that guarantees inherently unpredictable people won't do unpredictable things.

    Note to Mr. Rich: they are called "crazy" because they don't conform to societal and behavioral norms. Squashing political discourse you don't like won't suddenly make them into normal thinking individuals.

  • Mr. Rich||

    Noted. Thanks!

  • ||

    I'm not pro theocracy in any way, but I remember when that lady in Texas drowned her kids, because she thought that GOD was telling her to drown them in the bathtub one by one. Apparently she had some mental problems and was an avid church goer, so a lot of people made the argument that religion "does this" to people. I tried to point out to them that "crazy-religious" minus "religious" is still "crazy." Crazy people don't really need "good" reasons to do crazy things.

  • hmm||

    "People don't really need "good" reasons to do crazy things."

    I second this upon the acceptance of the applied corrections.

  • JohnD||

    If the tea party people were as violent as the left claims, Mr. Rich would spend his time hiding under his desk, because he would surely be a prime target. And rightly so.

  • derp||

    Team Blue is not "the left".

  • Cyto||

    "Squashing political discourse you don't like won't suddenly make them into normal thinking individuals."

    No, but it will get your opponents to shut up so you are able to grab more power. Hmmm... Occam's razor strikes again...

  • Inevitable||

    Cue the sheep.

  • hmm representing Union o Sheep||

    They will not respond until our demands for personal protection from forced fornication be met. We would also like a better pension plan.

  • Karma W||

    Duck for president!

  • Jeffersonian||

    I do wonder whether Frank Rich thinks there are limits on what the State can do to people and, if so, those limits would cause him to be labelled as "anti-government."

  • Hugh Akston||

    What's more disturbing is what moderate Muslim Republican and conservative leaders have not said. Their continuing silence during two years of simmering violence has been chilling.

    I applaud Frank Rich for his commitment to environmentally friendly punditry. By digging this well-worn right-wing argument out of the trash and slapping a coat a blue paint on it, he helps to preserve our limited conceptual resources.

  • Numeromancer||


    By digging this well-worn right-wing argument out of the trash and slapping a coat a blue paint on it, he helps to preserve our his limited conceptual resources.

    FTFY. Remember, all true environmentalism is local.

  • ||

    Have politicians stoked the pre-Loughner violence by advocating that citizens pursue "Second Amendment remedies" or be "armed and dangerous"? We don't know.

    In other words, YES!

  • Hugh Akston||

    He's just asking questions!

  • Jeffersonian||

    Does Frank Rich blow syphilitic goats?

    The public deserves an answer.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Goats can't get syphilis only humans and male rabbits.

  • Epi||

    And my sister.

  • Jeffersonian||

    Thanks for the wet blanket.

  • ||

    Does Frank Rich blow syphilitic goats?

    As Frank would say:

    We don't know.

  • Southerner||

    "McCain is rich. He's highly skilled in hand-to-hand combat. He's prepared to personally fight for justice in this world. We're not saying he's Batman or anything... But he could be."

  • ||

    "Does Frank Rich blow syphilitic goats?"

    I think it's revealing what Frank Rich hasn't said on the subject of blowing syphilitic goats. After all, the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Of Frank Rich blowing syphilitic goats.

  • ||

    We've had politically-motivated violence in this country long before Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin came on the scene. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think South Carolina had Right-Wing talk radio in December, 1860.

  • hmm||

    Or 1856, when a democrat beat a democrat while another democrat held republicans and democrats at gun point stopping them from assisting. All on the floor of the senate.

  • Preston Brooks||

    good times

  • ||

    The guy who got beaten, Charles Sumner, was a douchebag who slandered his opponents on the floor of the Senate and then hid behind the fact that the Constitution forbids prosecution or lawsuits due to things said in Congress.

    He shouldn't have been beaten up, but the portrayal of him as some pure idealist who was beaten by evil slaveholders is way off. There were plenty of anti-slavery Senators who never incited a reaction like that.

  • SIV ||

    He shouldn't have been beaten up

    I disagree. Our legislative bodies should follow the Taiwanese example.
    Dueling should be perfectly legal as well.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I'm for the Klingon method: Kill your enemy in combat, and take his position.

  • ||

    From Charles Sumner's wiki article:

    Sumner said Douglas (who was present in the chamber) was a "noisome, squat, and nameless animal ... not a proper model for an American senator." He also portrayed Butler as having taken "a mistress who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight—I mean, the harlot, Slavery." Sumner's three-hour oration later became particularly personally insulting as he mocked the 59-year-old Butler's manner of speech and physical mannerisms, both of which were impaired by a stroke that Butler had suffered earlier.

    Douglas suggested to a colleague while Sumner was orating that "this damn fool Sumner is going to get himself shot by some other damn fool."
  • hmm||

    If I kicked the shit out of every person that mocked me I'd be a busy motherfucker.

    So you condone physical violence as a solution to libel?

  • ||

    Speech and debate clause. It's wicked hard to hold legislators accountable for things they say in session. Plus, it was a different era. I think society would be improved by the resurrection of the Code Duello.

  • ||

    Sayeth Chris Rock: I don't condone a motherfucker pushing his wife down a flight of stairs......but I understand.

  • Steve||

    I don't see anything wrong with what the senator said. If you decide it's OK to own other people, or kill them in the womb, don't be suprised if you get called what you are.

  • Fakt Chekker||

    Telegraph invented before Civil War.

  • Dash-Dot Head||

    Hi, Rush. Long-time receiver, first-time sender...

  • ||

    lol. i rarely do that. good job

  • Dash-Dot Head||

    - .... .- -. -.- ... .-.-.-

  • Rather ||

    .-. . .- -.. / -- -.-- / -. . .-- . ... - / .--. --- ... - / -... .. - -.-. .... . ...

  • ||

    Looks like racist code to me...

  • rather||

    .. / -.. --- -. .----. - / - .... .. -. -.- / .. .----. -- / .-. .- -.-. .. ... - / -. --- .-. / .- --. .- .. -. ... - / -.-. --- .-. .--. --- .-. .- .-.. / .--. ..- -. .. ... .... -- . -. - ---... / - ..- .-.. .--. .- ? .---- .---- .-.-.- ..--- ...-- .-.-.- ----- ----. / .--.-. / .---- .---- ---... ..... .---- .--. -- ? ? / .- -. -.. / -- .. .-.. .-.. .- / .--- --- ...- --- ...- .. -.-. .... .-.-.- / -.-- . ... --..-- / - .... . -.-- / .- .-. . / ...- . .-. -.-- / -... .-.. .- -- . .-- --- .-. - .... -.-- / .- -. -.. / -- ..- ... - / -... . / .--. ..- -. .. ... .... . -.. / -... -.-- / ... .--. .- -. -.- .. -. --. .-.-.- / -. --- - / .. -. / .- -. / .- -... ..- ... .. ...- . / .-- .- -.-- --..-- / .--- ..- ... - / .. -. / .- / ..-. .. .-. -- / .-- .- -.-- / - .... .- - / - .... . -.-- / .-- .. .-.. .-.. / -. . ...- . .-. / ..-. --- .-. --. . - .-.-.-

  • Rather||

    -.. .- ... .... . ... / .- -. -.. / -.. --- - ... / -- .- -.- . / -- . / .-- . - / ..-. --- .-. / -.. .- -.. -.. -.-- .-.-.- / .-. . .- -.. / -- -.-- / -... .-.. --- --. .-.-.-

  • Jeffersonian||

    We need to regulate this hate telegraphy.

  • sevo||

    Has Rich been co-cohabiting with goats? We don't know.

  • Inevitable||

    It's sheep, not goats. Douche.

  • ||

    Coming off that manic episode yet, anonypussy? Bi-polar and passive aggressive; life doesn't like you much, does it?

  • hmm||

    Co-habitation does not translate to sexual relations. Maybe he just likes the company and having intellectual equals around.

  • Sheep||

    Works for you!

  • hmm representing Union o Sheep||

    Since I represent your collective interests it's my job to tell you to get back in the closet.

  • Sheep||

    Baaaaa, humbug.

  • hmm||

    I can always see to it that you are assigned solely to a certain attorneys jobs...

  • Sheep, Local 521||

    Episiarch is an attorney? He's never mentioned it.

  • hmm||

    I think he keeps Platypusses.

  • A. Goat, Esq.||

    He told me he was a doctor. Liar!

  • Osama bin Laden||

    Some of my best friends are goats as were a few of my wives.

  • KPres||

    Uh, wasn't that guy a registered Democrat?

    Hardly anti-government.

  • ||

    I don't think Loughner knew what the hell he was. The guy was reading both Communist and Nazi literature. Two ideologies that profess to hate each other.

  • Huh||

    You are what you read?

  • fish||

    Shit...maybe he was trying to bridge the gap.

  • Dave||

    Registered Independent that never voted.

  • Hugh Akston||

    IOW History's Greatest Monster.

  • Karma W||

    If he's an "independent" then clearly Bill O'Reilly made him do it. I don't blame Loughner. All that referring to talking points in the third person could be perceived as a call to violence.

  • BakedPenguin||

    He was obviously part of the "No Labels" movement! We need more hateful rhetoric in politics or the bloodshed won't end!

  • SIV ||

    Obsessed anti-capitalist.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    "Obsessed anti-capitalist" covers a LOT of people, SIV. Hell, there's a handful lurking around here.

    Say, where IS Max?

  • Old Mexican||

    Mr. FIFY,

    Max did his banalities on the carpet, further below the thread.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I saw that just a few minutes after I posted. Or smelled it, perhaps.

  • shrike||

    Max can't hold a candle to MY prowess!

  • ||

    I learned this morning at brunch with the in-laws that criticism of Fed policy is "anti-government" and "crazy." I'm no gold bug and I have an econ degree laying around here but having my fairly mild critique of money supply expansion sound like a call for bloody revolution made me laugh myself to tears.

    Also, the liberals don't like it if you quote for 'Conan the Barbarian.'
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  • Bingo||

    Ah yes, an America where healthy distrust of government power is a bad thing. I really wonder what the founders would think of the results of their grand experiment.

  • ||

    What happened to all the "Dissent is Patriotic" bumper stickers? I've just realized that I don't see them anymore.

  • hmm||

    It's not patriotic anymore.

  • Joe Biden||

    It's time to be patriotic.

  • jtuf||

    Grrizzly, they're in a pile in Leftist basements next to the anti-war signs.

  • ||

    Dissent is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Foolish dissent is the hobgoblin of little minds.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    In the trash with the "Regime Change Begins at Home" signs.

    Afghanistan is now cool and patriotic.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Don't forget that some in power now, used to say shit like "don't trust anyone over 30", "question authority" and "down with the establishment". Now, they ARE the establishment and the authority, and they're definitely over 30..

  • ||

    ok nobody remembers that

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Fuck off, Orrin.

  • 1960s-era Modern Dems||

    Oh, we remember... but now that we have power, we're gonna fuckin'-A use it!

  • hmm||

    It's a rough day when the one you idol and carry a torch for through thick and thin contradicts your own dogmatic rhetoric. I'm sure some pundits on the left are having nervous breakdowns about now and the prozac is flowing like shit through a goose pundit.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Shit flowing through shit. There's a conundrum.

  • Lahey||

    We're thru the shitglass here.

  • ||

    If Loughner had plugged Lady Gaga instead of a junior Congresswoman(D), Rich would never have given him thirty seconds' consideration. Who's a monster?

  • ||

    Considering how many people have "plugged" Lady Gagga, that's actually understandable.

  • ||

    whaaa? damn i didnt get any (

  • ||

    He's just asking questions!

    I hope his camcorder batteries are fully charged.

  • Mark Bennett||

    Thomas Friedman's First Rule of Holes?

    If that's an inside joke, you'll forgive me for pointing out that the First Rule of Holes is much older than the cite, and is most likely not a Thomas Friedman creation.

  • Jerry||

    Actually, Friedman's First Rule of Holes is to keep digging until you reach China.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Ha!

  • vousy zuřivosti||

    Yeah but Friedman turned the quote into a whole new level of stupid.


    Or how about Friedman’s analysis of America’s foreign policy outlook last May:

    "The first rule of holes is when you’re in one, stop digging.When you’re in three, bring a lot of shovels.”

    First of all, how can any single person be in three holes at once? Secondly, what the fuck is he talking about? If you’re supposed to stop digging when you’re in one hole, why should you dig more in three? How does that even begin to make sense? It’s stuff like this that makes me wonder if the editors over at the New York Times editorial page spend their afternoons dropping acid or drinking rubbing alcohol. Sending a line like that into print is the journalism equivalent of a security guard at a nuke plant waving a pair of mullahs in explosive vests through the front gate. It should never, ever happen.


    http://www.nypress.com/article.....-that.html

  • SIV ||

    Wonderful link.Taibbi knows how to write.

  • hmm||

    I figured Friedman's first rule of holes was KY or Astroglide is mandatory.

    not that there's anything wrong with KY or Astroglide

  • .||

    Astroglide in blue?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Crisco is much cheaper. Or so I've heard.

  • hmm||

    Thread Jack:

    Looks like cyber warfare has gone mainstream.
    http://www.wtma.com/rssItem.as.....d=29622024

  • .||

    Old news.

  • ||

    good times

    Indeed.

  • Max||

    Jesse Walker's classic Reason piece? Sounds like the self-importance of the mediocre fringe.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Max,

    Max, H&R's pet yorkie.

    Here, Max! Here, boy! Go fetch! Good boy! Yeah!

    Noooo, no, no! Bad Max, bad! Don't do your banalities on the carpet, I just had it steamed! Bad Max!

  • xaM||

    Mother told you to leave the adults alone, Max. Now you'll have to have a cold enema and go to bed without supper.

  • xaM||

    Mother told you to leave the adults alone, Max. Now you'll have to have a cold enema and go to bed without supper.

  • Spur||

    Sad to see an awesome dude like O'Rourke writing and going on a cruise for an establishment authoritarian magazine like the Weekly Standard...

    Why isn't he cruising with Reason?

  • Duh||

    Because he isn't gay?

  • ||

    cum again

  • hmm||

    He might lack the recently required facial hair.

  • ||

    orourke has always liked being the libertarian repub amongst the ... well... LESS libertarian repubs (to put it mildly) schtick.

    well, except for his writing at Car and Driver. He just did that because he likes cars and getting paid to go fast.

    national review certainly has historical libertarian cred (mj legalization etc.) but are certainly more authoritarian now

  • ||

    or motor trend or road and track. i cant remember the exact car mag

  • Dash-Dot Head||

    National Lampoon...

  • ||

    that ALSO. I'm actually not as much of a fan of his lampoon writings. he was too wordy, not as funny.

    iirc, his age and guile book has a lot of those writings...

  • SIV ||

    C&D under editor David E Davis. They are (or were) the most libertarian of car mags. I remember a 1970s article where they all got high and tested their driving skills. They were pretty libertarian under Csaba Csere too but I haven't read an issue lately.

  • hmm||

    Top Gear for life!!

  • hmm||

    Alt text for first photo should be, "GET OFF MY LAWN."

  • Old Mexican||

    "Since Obama's ascension, we've seen repeated incidents of political violence."




    "Which is worth indicating as, before Obama, nothing ever happened in the U.S."

  • Old Mexican||

    Excerpt from P.J. O'Rourke's commentary:

    In the article's second paragraph we are told that the accused, Jared Loughner, had an Internet site that "contained antigovernment ramblings." The same may be said​— ​ at least in respect to ramblings against the newly sworn-in House of Representatives ​ —​about Internet sites posting speeches by President Obama.

    But antigovernment ramblings coming from outside the government are so sinister that they are sinister whether they are sinister or not. "And regardless of what led to the episode," Hulse and Zernike say, "it quickly focused attention on the degree to which inflammatory language, threats and implicit instigations to violence have become a steady undercurrent in the nation’s political culture."

    To maintain that there's a lack of evidence for such a sweeping statement would be inaccurate since Hulse and Zernike themselves are doing what they claim is being done. And given the tight deadlines of a Sunday edition they have focused their attention quickly indeed.

    They make an interesting choice of verb tense in "have become." Maybe Hulse and Zernike are very young and, what with the way American history is taught these days, are unaware of riots, bombings, lynchings, exterminations of native peoples, assassinations, assassination attempts, gun fights, and the Civil War, not to mention the inflammatory language, threats, and implicit instigations to violence in the writings of Tom Paine.

    Or maybe Hulse and Zernike are old hacks in the pocket of certain political interests that feel threatened by populism. A member of the populace​ — ​however deranged ​ —​has shot a liberal ​— ​albeit one who is independent and selective in her liberalism. Even this most pathetic of excuses will serve. Ordinary Americans skeptical about the powers, prerogatives, and expense of certain political interests shall be execrated.


    [boldface mine]

    The last paragraph above nails it: The Political Class is so affraid of popular uprisings (no matter how gentle) because they fear losing their mealticket much more than having the government suddenly become Constitutional (for a change.)

  • Crickets||

    Chirp.

  • Old Mexican||

    My family feeds crickets to our gecko, FYI...

  • Attorney||

    Well, I appreciated it.

  • Bingo||

    100% nailed it. I'm really curious if Dems will be so worried about "anti-government" language if a Republican occupies the Whitehouse in 2 years. I also wonder if right-wing stalwarts will be so supportive of libertarian ideals in those circumstances.

  • sevo||

    Bingo|1.16.11 @ 6:43PM|#
    "...I'm really curious if Dems will be so worried about "anti-government" language if a Republican occupies the Whitehouse in 2 years."

    Nope. Remember those "Dissent is Patriotic" bumper stickers when Bush was pres?
    Now "Dissent is Icky".

  • ||

    got that shit right turdbreath.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Great analysis, OM.

  • Almanian||

    Fucking dissent, how does it work?

  • hmm||

    like magnets

  • ||

    You know, even if Rich did enjoy the company of goats, and took the next step of living with them, who am I to judge?

    I'm tired of the social shunning and hate narrative against goatfuckers.

  • Amakudari||

    I disagree about the goats. There is no evidence that Frank Rich fucks goats.

    Is it possible that an environment created by Frank Rich fucking sheep contributed to the killer's mindset? I don't know whether he fucks sheep, but there are some who do, and it's a question worth asking.

    Also note that wool is somewhat of a substitute for cotton, which was previously farmed by slaves, who were mostly in the South, which is conservative, a label which has a much larger proportion of Tea Party sympathizers. They're related. Hey, I'm just connecting the dots.

    Also, how 'bout that memorial speech? One of the best ever. I give it five stars. I think it is a good lead-in to his upcoming presidential campaign.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    The fact that you did not give Obama's speech six stars out of five is proof of your racist hatemongering, Amakudari.

  • Discount Mulberry bags||

    That was a great piece of information., I enjoyed reading it[url=http://www.mulberryshop.org/]Mulberry Bayswater[/url]

  • hmm||

    Spambot mcFAIL

  • name here||

    So what's going on with Arthur Wolk's suit again Reason?

    Wolk has asked the court to force Reason to hand over records of H&R's Internet traffic.

  • Cesna Flying Sheep||

    Baaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

  • Southern Sheep Law Center||

    Don't worry, Reasonoids. We have the videos.

  • Tony||

    When you have to spend your time being defensive about whether you caused a string of murders, maybe it's time for a vacation? Rich forgot the guy who flew his plane into an IRS building.

    You can't spend two years being cynically hysterical about evil government oppression (the kind that only seems to happen when Democrats are presidents), then play dumb and innocent when there are consequences. Wouldn't it be nice if our political rhetoric only had effects when those effects are good?

  • Amakudari||

    Rich forgot the guy who flew his plane into an IRS building.

    Quoth the unrepentant sheepfucker (again, we can't be sure, but he's never denied it and never repented):

    last year’s murder-suicide kamikaze attack on an I.R.S. office in Austin, Tex.
  • .||

    then play dumb and innocent when there are consequences.

    What consequences would those be?

  • ||

    Phew. I was beginning to think I'd have to check out facebook if I wanted my daily dose of stupid and hysterical. Thanks for sparing me the bother.

  • JT||

    2 years? Where the hell have you been?

  • ||

    My antigovernment attitude dates from 1983. You do know who was President then, right? (It's okay; Google it if you have to.)

    I presume you can back up the "consequences" argument with some sort of logic, so let's have it.

  • ||

    Brilliant Tony, the fact that we are defending ourselves from these idiotic accusations must mean that the accusations are true!

    Checkmate!

    It's not your fault, you must be suffering from selective amnesia. What else could explain the retarded idea that we only criticize Democrat presidents?

    But yes, your last point is surely the most brillinat of all. Come on, we all know there MUST be negative consequences to advocating libertarianism. Therefore libertarianism caused these murders. QED.

    Retard.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    In TonyWorld, all right-of-center dissent = bad. The reverse is not.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Tony,

    You can't spend two years being cynically hysterical about evil government oppression (the kind that only seems to happen when Democrats are presidents), then play dumb and innocent when there are consequences.

    Sure. Reason, for instance, shut down its doors and blog during the George "Patriot Act" Bush.

    When you have to spend your time being defensive about whether you caused a string of murders, maybe it's time for a vacation?

    "When you have to spend your time being defensive about the allegation that you're a communist, maybe it's time for a vacation?"

    "A big lie becomes a truth when told many times."
    Old Statist proverb.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    When you have to spend your time being defensive about whether you caused a string of murders after being falsely accused of causing a series of murders

    There, Tony. No charge.

  • Um, Tony...||

  • cynical||

    When you have to spend your time being defensive about whether you baselessly suggesting your partisan opponents caused a string of murders, maybe it's time for a vacation?

  • name here||

    Rich forgot the guy who flew his plane into an IRS building.

    From excerpt offered, Rich also forgot the guy at Fort Hood who was a government employee with government issued gun and a degree in Psychiatry.

  • cynical||

    A) What the fuck is up with treating government as though it's an oppressed minority, as opposed to the dominant power group?

    B) If an anti-Semite is "anti-government", Frank Rich is subtly alleging that Jews control the government, in racist code. Someone notify the the SPLC!

  • JT||

    Actually more the most powerful entity in the history of the known universe is more appropriate

  • JT||

    Actually more the most powerful entity in the history of the known universe is more appropriate

  • JT||

    dammit

  • smartass sob||

    Since Obama's ascension, we've seen repeated incidents of political violence. Just a short list would include the 2009 killing of three Pittsburgh police officers by a neo-Nazi Obama-hater; last year's murder-suicide kamikaze attack on an I.R.S. office in Austin, Tex.; and the California police shootout with an assailant plotting to attack an obscure liberal foundation obsessively vilified by Beck.

    Okay, enough of the outrageous bullshit, formerly known as "the big lie", coming from the Left. I don't know whether Frank Rich knows it or not, but most of the politically inspired violence in this country is perpetrated by the Left and has been for at least the last 40 or 50 years that I've been alive and paid attention. In the very unlikely event that he doesn't know, here's an education for him, courtesy of Michelle Malkin. She's not a columnist I normally read, but she hits it dead on in this article.

  • ||

    gag on a shitball maggot

  • smartass sob||

    Oh, did I hit a nerve there, Mr. Dead Guy? Tsk, tsk.

  • David||

    Like Hitler and Stalin, Frank Rich is pro-government.

  • Lady Gaga||

    Thomas L. Friedman's First Rule of Holes

    Oh, Tom, I love it when you talk dirty!

  • ||

    Wait so if Frank Rich gets to pin this violence on antigovernment individuals, can we blame the genocides and holocausts perpetrated by authoritarians on Frank "Pro-government" Rich?

  • ||

    Works for me.

  • Gilbert Martin||

    Wow that means that Rich is responsible for all the killings by Hitler, Stalin , Mao, Pol Pot, the Kims in North Korea, etc. etc..

    That makes him the greatest mass murderer in history.

  • ||

    As Butler Shaffer observed in his article on LewRockwell.com this morning, "I am surprised that the statists have not tried to exploit the shootings as another symptom of global warming!"

  • Mr. FIFY||

    WaPo commenter brings the stoopid:

    An assassination of a politician IS a political statement. If the shooter were simply crazy, why did he choose a moderate Democratic Congresswoman who voted for health care reform? Was it pure chance?

    You Ms Rubin are the one guilty of poor logic, not Paul Krugman..

  • Trespassers W||

    An assassination of a musician IS a critical statement. If Mark David Chapman were simply crazy, why did he choose John and not Ringo? Was it pure chance?

    An assassination of a politician IS a political statement. If John Hinckley Jr. were simply crazy, why did he choose a Republican president? Was it pure chance?

  • ||

    If the shooter were simply crazy, why did he choose a moderate Democratic Congresswoman who voted for health care reform?

    Umm, because he's crazy?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Had the shooting victim been, say, Ron Paul, one can imagine the inner voices of progressives saying "it's about fucking time!".

    Well, at least Max would.

  • cynical||

    Even ignoring the insanity issue, it's not like he arbitrarily chose a Congressperson out of the 400+ available. She was his representative! If he'd driven out of his way to shoot Nancy Pelosi, the idea that politics influenced his decision would be more plausible.

  • TallDave||

    Judging by the fact he also shot a Republican judge and, I'd say he was just crazy.

    I mean, really his main beef seemed to be that his school was committing genocide by teaching grammar and demanding currency.

  • Say...||

    ...what happened with that James Eric Fuller guy?

    *looks under rug for sweepings*

  • NY Times||

    Never heard of him.

  • MediaMatters||

    We're going to ignore the guy until we absolutely HAVE to defend him.

  • KosKids||

    Way ahead of you, MM!

  • Wonketteer||

    TRUCKNUTZ!!!

  • ||

    The Times stuck it on page 21.

  • Take a moment:||

  • TallDave||

    Wait, so does this mean Stalin was a pro-government gunman?

  • shrike||

    How dare you slander Stalin's good name, you fucking Christ-fag.

  • jester||

    Blame everything on 'climate' change. Fuck off, Friedman. You're a dishonest hack and getting paid for it makes you even worse.

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