Brian Doherty | October 2, 2007
Remember that law barring out-of-state residents from doing petitioning to get things on the ballot in Oklahoma I blogged about a few weeks back? Longtime libertarian movement activist Paul Jacob has been indicted on felony charges under that law for his role running an organization that hired such supposedly banned petitioners.
Yes, felony charges for hiring people to gather signatures to get things on the ballot. As Jacob says, "what is my actual offense but that of daring to help Oklahoma voters hold an election to decide an issue?"
See Jacob's detailed explanation of the charges and his defense of himself at freepauljacob.com.
This isn't the first time Jacob has faced the state's wrath for his libertarian activism. He was jailed in the 1980s for his loud public refusal to register for the draft, and encouraging others to similarly refuse.
He spent over a year on the run after being informed the Justice Department was going to prosecute him for his failure to register--the first such prosecution under post-Vietnam registration laws. He was eventually brought to (in)justice and served five and a half months in jail. Jacob's story is one of many told in my history of the modern American libertarian movement, Radicals for Capitalism.
Thanks to Wirkman Virkkala for the tip.
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Could any of the lawyers that post here comment on whether the
Oklahoma law would survive a First Amendment challenge?
On the surface, it appears to violate both freedom of speech and
freedom of assembly.
So does the restriction against coordination between private
political groups and candidate campaigns, but the courts don't give
a damn.
If I call a political campaign and say, "I'm going to run ads
against your opponent, can you tell me what markets you need some
help in?" and the campaign tells me, we have committed a
crime.
If that's Constitutional, then maybe it is also Constitutional for
the state to micromanage who I hire to collect signatures on my
petitions.
Aresen,
Ha ha ha, how quaint. I've got thee words for you 'Free Speech
Zones'.
THE BILL OF RIGHTS
void where prohibited by law
Drat! A libertarian activist has been indicted.
And it wasn't Eric Donderooo.
THE BILL OF RIGHTS
void where prohibited by law
That should be on a T-shirt. And that little tease in the bikini on
the right side of the page should be wearing this T-shirt instead
of the "Redefeat communism" garbage.
Jacob led a coalition of activists to challenge the Oklahoma law
in Federal District court (in Colorado, I believe) on First
Amendment grounds. Their case, as I recall, was dismissed.
Philosophically, I object to the way in which national
organizations, such as Jacob's, manipulate state petition
processes. Those are meant to be for the people of a particular
state, and were these national petition companies helping the
people of the states, it would be one thing. But really, 90% of the
time they are using the petition mechanism to promote their own
agenda.
Nonetheless, there is no reason for Jacob to be indicted, and it's
just proof # 1008 that things are FUBARed in Oklahoma. The petition
mechanism is being assaulted from every angle, and it needs
defense. Nonetheless, it's important to recognize that the
activities of Jacob and others have contributed to public sentiment
to limit petition activity.
Philosophically, I object to the way in which national
organizations, such as Jacob's, manipulate state petition
processes. Those are meant to be for the people of a particular
state, and were these national petition companies helping the
people of the states, it would be one thing. But really, 90% of the
time they are using the petition mechanism to promote their own
agenda.
So what if they're promoting their own agenda. The people in OK are
still the only ones who can vote on it. End of analysis.
that little tease in the bikini on the right side of the
page
CONSERVATIVE
And, evidently, shaved.
Read the Sam Adams Alliance's take on Paul's indictment
here:
http://samadamsalliance.org/publication/id.2871/pub_detail.asp
Also, be sure to join the new Facebook group: "Free Paul Jacob-
100,000 Strong for Constitutional Rights." There's a link there for
you to donate to Paul's defense fund.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5278112380
The petition mechanism is being assaulted from every angle,
and it needs defense.
No it doesn't - it needs killing. The idea that 50% + 1 person of
those who vote in a state should be able to co-opt the power of the
state against the rest of the people is anathema to the notion of
freedom in the first place. I see no reason why a bare majority of
people should be able to force the minority to do anything, yet the
petition process makes this easier than ever. I'm surprised by how
much this assumption that simply being in the majority gives a
group the right to dictate laws to the minority goes almost
entirely unquestioned because we've been so indoctrinated into the
idea that democracy is always good.
Even if we generally prefer democracy, there is nothing magical
about 50% except to say that barely being on one side of it means
there are a few more people who think one way in a community than
another. But so what? That hardly seems like much on which to rest
the use of the police power of the state, in and of itself. Perhaps
if the law was set up so it required at least 2/3 (or better yet,
in my mind, 75%) of the people to agree in order to impose any new
law (and better yet, 1/3 to repeal any existing law!), it would be
a good idea, but as it stands the petition/initiative process is no
friend of liberty.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, Brian. In the first
place, all that the petition does is put an issue on the ballot.
And if it's a Constitutional amendment it requires much more than a
simple majority.
The real reason for the petition mechanism is to serve as a check
on the legislature. True, it did come, in Oklahoma at least, out of
the Progressive movement. But "the people," in the classical
liberal tradition, have always been the check on the aristocratic
tendencies of the political class. As they say, the only thing
worse than the tyranny of the majority is the tyranny of the
minority.
FYI, many of the earliest petitions in Oklahoma were on the issue
of women's suffrage and other civil rights issues -- issues in
which advocates of the petitions were well ahead of their
legislators.
The constitution is explicit in granting the people the right to petition, assemble, and freely speak. Campaign laws aside, OK's law seems to strike at the heart of the first amendment.
As they say, the only thing worse than the tyranny of the
majority is the tyranny of the minority.
Well, that is a nice saying and perhaps it is true but it is
irrelevant to my point. A tyranny is only possible, majority or
minority, if some group is allowed to force another group to adhere
to its wishes. What I was saying is that not only should a minority
not be allowed to pass laws forcing such adherence, neither should
any but the largest majority. A lack of ability of a bare majority
to force its will on a bare minority is not a tyranny of
the minority by any reasonable definition of tyranny (e.g. that the
majority cannot vote to establish Christianity as the state
religion is not a tyranny of the minority).
As to your point about being a check on the legislature, well sure,
it can be used for good purposes but that isn't enough to justify
it's existence. Just as with any policy one has to weigh that
potential for good against the potential bad uses as well. Beyond
that pragmatic view is the moral argument that 50%+1 person should
not have the right to force the rest of the people to do something
they don't wish to do.
And, by the way, I think a better check on the legislature would be
to require the same 2/3 majority of legislators for them to pass
any law as well.
And if it's a Constitutional amendment it requires much more
than a simple majority.
A very tangential point, but that depends on the state in question
- I don't know the requirement in Oklahoma, but in Oregon a simple
majority is all that is required for constitutional amendments as
well as statutes.
Drat! A libertarian activist has been indicted.
And it wasn't Eric Donderooo.
He's only a "libertarian" acivist.
Drat! A libertarian activist has been indicted. And it
wasn't Eric Donderooo.
He's only a "libertarian" acivist.
Dondero is a Republican who likes hookers.
The difference between him and other Republicans is he admits it
openly.
Oh, and he doesn't find it necessary to find Jesus afterward
(apparently).
Damn, I don't live in Oklahoma, but if they don't let me vote on Oklahoma ballot issues, I am going to sue them for violating my civil rights. Fight the power.
Thank you Bob. That is exactly the point. The (U.S.)
Constitution grants certain rights, but it doesn't grant my right
to meddle in the affairs of every other state in the nation.
Still, I hope Jacob and the other two get off the hook. If there
was ever a "chilling effect" on free speech, felony indictment
would be it.
I, too, hope I get "off the hook." And, agree or disagree with
me, it's nice to see a consensus forming against my serving
10-years in prison. That's a long time. My eight-year old would be
18 then. My 16-year old 26.
After a long day of being indicted, handcuffed, ankle-shackled to
my co-defendant Rick Carpenter (a meddling in-state person) and
fingerprinted, some thoughts:
1) There is a First Amendment right to meddle. There is not only
the First Amendment's protection of speech and the "right to
petition" but also the right to association. I was invited by an
Oklahoman to help on this petition drive. No outsider can file an
initiative. No outside agitator can sign it. Only Oklahomans can
vote on it. The restriction that only folks from within the state
boundaries can circulate a petition simply removes market choices
from those Oklahomans seeking to enact change. Such laws treat
citizens like children who can't be let alone with dark, evil
outside (read: non-state-regulated) influences, lest
the-powers-that-be have trouble on their hands.
2) There has indeed been a challenge to Oklahoma's residency
requirement in federal court. The residency mandate was upheld at
the district court level and is now on appeal at the 10th Circuit.
Ultimately, I believe such requirements will be thrown out by the
US Supremes. We'll see. More here:
http://www.ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=Yes_on_Term_Limits_v_Savage
3) Tyranny by super-majority, majority or minority is all the same:
tyranny. But such tyranny is usually borne by government deciding
issues it has no business deciding. On those matters where
government action and decision-making are legitimate, we are far
better protected when citizens can directly check their
unrepresentative representatives.
PJ
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