Obama Fishing Czar Divides Democrats

Why John Kerry and Barney Frank are lining up against the administration's "catch share" policy

The next battle over President Obama’s job-killing regulations may take place on the Atlantic Coast, where fishermen, and the senators and congressmen who represent them, are voicing mounting frustration at the Obama administration’s “catch-share” rules for the fishing industry.

The Republican senator from Massachusetts, Scott Brown, on Saturday stood with fishermen in Gloucester and called on Mr. Obama to fire the administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Jane Lubchenco.

But the frustration at Ms. Lubchenco, who also serves as under secretary of commerce for oceans and atmosphere, extends well beyond Republican, Tea Party-backed senators or libertarians for whom the idea of a federally enforced “share” program sounds like some nightmare out of an Ayn Rand novel.

A surprising and growing number of Democratic elected officials are also expressing annoyance and outright opposition. Sen. Kerry, the Democrat of Massachusetts who was his party’s presidential nominee in 2004, said Friday, “Because of federal regulations limiting fishing in our waters, a lot of our fisherman have been put out of business or pushed the brink.” Also last week, he sent a stern letter to Ms. Lubchenco, warning her, “tensions between federal regulators and the fishing community have reached a boiling point beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed in my 26 years in the Senate.”

This 2010 Reason.tv video explores the ways in which "catch shares," if properly structured and enforced, can help save the ocean's fisheries and the industry that depends on them. Watch by clicking on the image.

Earlier this year, the two senators from New York, Charles Schumer and Kristin Gillibrand, both Democrats, joined with Democratic congressmen Barney Frank of Massachusetts and Frank Pallone of New Jersey to write the secretary of commerce a letter “to express our concern that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) catch share policy will further endanger the economic vitality of the already-struggling fishing industry.” A Schumer press release warned that the “flawed catch share policy…. could irreparably damage our fishing industry.”

The Democratic mayor of New Bedford, Mass., Scott Lang, denounced the catch-share policy. “We’ve got the worst economy since the Great Depression, and we’re keeping people from working. … It’s really, I think, done a tremendous amount of damage to the fishing community.”

And earlier this year, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a Democrat who socializes with Mr. Obama when Mr. Obama is vacationing on Martha’s Vineyard, filed a brief in support of a lawsuit against the catch-share regulations, calling them “poorly thought through and poorly implemented.”

The story hasn’t yet hit The New York Times, Politico, or the Drudge Report. But when it does, it won’t be pretty. At the center of the storm is Ms. Lubchenco, whose official biography fits what to the Obama administration’s critics will seem like a familiar pattern. Like President Obama himself and like Mr. Obama’s initial economic adviser, Lawrence Summers, Ms. Lubchenco has an advanced degree from Harvard. Like Mr. Obama and Mr. Summers, Ms. Lubchenco has little private sector experience, but spent a lot of time teaching at a university—in her case, more than 20 years at Oregon State University. When President Obama nominated her to the NOAA job, she was vice chairman of the board of the Environmental Defense Fund, an environmental advocacy group that promotes catch shares, which are kind of like a cap-and-trade emissions scheme transferred to fishery management. When her appointment was announced, EDF’s president, Fred Krupp, praised her by saying, “her depth of understanding of climate change is unmatched.”

Her official biography also notes that she is a recipient of 14 honorary doctoral degrees and of one of the MacArthur Foundation’s “genius” awards.

Which raises the question—if Ms. Lubchenco is such a “genius,” how has she managed to so thoroughly frustrate, irritate, and annoy so many small fishermen and the politicians who represent them?

Partly it is by displaying a kind of arrogance towards those not blessed with her genius. She reportedly minimized the job losses under catch-share by describing them as “marginal jobs where people are squeaking by.”

She snubbed Massachusetts elected officials by departing early from a subcommittee hearing to go meet with the Boston Globe editorial board. A representative of the Gloucester Fishermen's Wives Association, in a letter to the Gloucester Times, called Ms. Lubchenco’s testimony about one of their own programs “disingenuous, dishonest and disrespectful to all our community's fishing fleet.”

I tried to get Ms. Lubchenco’s side of it, but her communications and legislative teams didn’t return my phone call.

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  • tarran||

    So I have to watch the video to find out why the NOAA policy is fucked up?

    This written article seems to be mainly a bunch of arguments from authority and ad hominems.

  • ||

    She reportedly minimized the job losses under catch-share by describing them as “marginal jobs where people are squeaking by.”

    I am sure they can eat cake if they can't fish.

    But in all seriousness I second Terran. Why is the policy bad?

  • ||

    Why do you call out tarran as a Terran? Are you from some other planet?

  • ||

    It was just another of my substance less posts.

  • Paul||

    Your substance... less posts? That's funny on many levels.

  • ||

    John, you need to stop your rampant substance abuse. Don't make us stage an intervention.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    Hey, man, that one we threw for Towlie was pretty successful!

  • ||

    Wanna get high?

  • Hank||

    You're gonna need a smaller boat.

  • ||

    Sorry, but doesn't Reason usually support some sort of ownership rights system as a means of keeping fishing stocks viable? The very superficial description of the "catch-share" system in the article sounds similar to that.

  • Colonel_Angus||

    "Sorry, but..."

    Pussy.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    Yes, I'm sorry, but real men open with, "Fuck off, slavers!"

  • Gojira||

    And they have to use "gambol" somewhere in their post.

    A reference to santorum contextually using that word's new definition is bonus points.

  • anonymous commenter some guy||

    Officer, am I free to gambol about sea and ocean?

  • Colonel_Angus||

    Pirate indians! Well, a certain kind of pirate indian.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    Are they pirate indians or indian pirates?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And, along with that, to start wondering whether your NOAA administrator may not be such a genius, after all.

    To admit that would be to admit his own fallibility. We're talking Harvard, for Gaia's sake.

  • Ignore this post||

    Do you honestly believe that he knows who the NOAA administrator is?

    He's got guys that have guys that hire people like that.

  • Radioactive||

    a human centipede of stupidity?

  • Colonel_Angus||

    The catch share concept is stupid because it lets governments create an arbitrary shortage of the commodity. Fisherman establishing natural law styled boundaries of fishing rights in water space would be far more logical and would be consistent with personal property rights.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    If you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day.

    If you teach a man to fish, he had better fill out form C/Q, Part 3, not pertaining to subsection G of the 1987 Federal Waterways and Channels Act and of course all of this in concordance with the Supreme Court's ruling in the 1837 case Massachusetts Bay and Cod Co. V. U.S. if he would like to eat for a day, let alone a lifetime.

  • GW||

  • BakedPenguin||

    I can't argue with that.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    Do you have a pamphlet that I could subscribe to so that I may further research your magnificent insights?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    "Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Give a man a gun, and others fish FOR him." - J. R. "Bob" Dobbs

  • IceTrey||

    Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, set him on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

  • Copernicus||

    A brief, gloriously shining life.

  • Bobnonymous||

    Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

  • ||

    i shouldn't worry, overly. Obama's "Pass-it-Now!" jobs bill will take care of everything, especially if the unemployed fisherman can be deputized to stop all those increasing rapes that Joe was talking about.

  • Colonel_Angus||

    I imagine that whale is quite gristly and mushy. The quality of the meat of mammals not bred for it doesn't really appeal to me, but its still something I am going to explore as one of life's accomplishments. Exploits in whale meat would make a great story for cocktail parties.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    Well, whale does have a shit ton of fat, so I assume it's good breaded and fried.

    Then again, bull balls are good if you bread and fry them.

  • ||

    That's true.

  • Colonel_Angus||

    I can tolerate regular shrimp, but it ain't my favorite. Frying shrimp makes it "taste like chicken". Anything fried could taste good, but won't change the facts about the shit you're actually eating.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    I'm not a big seafood guy, but fish and chips and coconut shrimp are fucking divine.

    Then again, my main exposure to fish has been through sole as a kid, which I hear is shit. My main problem with fish is texture- it doesn't eat like meat (I also hate the fishy taste, but good fish doesn't have it). Too soft and chewy. So... is there any good fish that eats like real meat?

  • ||

    Tuna.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    I've never tried non-canned tuna, but I will look into it. I have heard good things. Any good preparations for tuna or the mentioned downthread monkfish/swordfish?

  • Colonel_Angus||

    Avoid tuna steak. Its an abomination on the order of ground turkey- a meat totally not suitable to that sort of preparation.

  • ||

    I do a variation on vitello tonnato which uses the tuna (yellowfin) in the place of the veal and the sauce is a garlic-lemon-anchovy-caper mixture. But that's a lot of work.

    If you can get good albacore, it makes an excellent tuna tartare.

  • ||

    Sole is delicious. It just has to be prepared properly. Like any meat, if you overcook it, you will fuck it up.

    If you want fish that seems "meaty", go for swordfish/marlin/shark steaks, or some monkfish. However, the absolute best way to eat fish is raw. Some sashimi grade fatty tuna? Salmon with big white bands of fat through it? White tuna? Hamachi (yellowtail)? Uni (sea urchin)? They're all fucking amazing.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    I do actually enjoy me some sushi. Spicy tuna roll, or, because I suck, Philadelphia roll, which all kinda of wrong.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    Also, as much as I love the Mountain West, that is what sucks about here. Super hard to find really good seafood.

  • Colonel_Angus||

    Copy the sword, marlin, and shark. All basically the same thing when they end up on your plate.

    I also roll with salmon and tilapia on the regular. They're not that meaty but the flakiness is some great shit.

    Fishy taste is 100% environment, especially with bottom feeders like catfish and shrimp.

  • ||

    Fishiness is also a factor of freshness. You want the freshest possible fish.

  • Beezard||

    Shrimp and catfish are probably two of the worst examples when describing something that's "fishy". It's the oily shit like Pollock.

    You can cut down on a lot of the fishiness of most other white fish and salmon by skinning it before you cook it.

  • Beezard||

    Halibut is tits, but it's hella expensive. A good cheap mild fish is Swai. It beats tilapia to shit on all fronts.

    Also, if you're lucky enough to have a line on some Old Bay Crab Classic crabcake mix, you can make some awesome fishcakes by replacing the crabmeat with cod (using a little less mayo)

  • Beezard||

    Halibut is tits, but it's hella expensive. A good cheap mild fish is Swai. It beats tilapia to shit on all fronts.

    Also, if you're lucky enough to have a line on some Old Bay Crab Classic crabcake mix, you can make some awesome fishcakes by replacing the crabmeat with cod (using a little less mayo)

  • ||

    Smells like tuna, but tastes like chicken.....

  • ||

    salmon and grouper are pretty good and no fishy taste.

  • RoboCain||

    I would say catfish or shark "eat like meat".

  • Crichton||

    Except for dentites.

  • Mainer||

    I'd eat my own head if it was breaded and deep fried.

  • Copernicus||

    "I'll eat a pig's ass if you cook it right" - Chris Rock

  • ||

    I've dissected a porpoise, and I can tell you that cetacean meat is unbelievably red because oxygen for dives is stored in extra hemoglobin in the muscles (and they have a shit-ton of blood, too, stored in an oversized superior vena cava). I have to wonder what effect this would have on the meat. My assumption is that it would add flavor. I'd love to try it sometime; maybe on a visit to Norway or Japan.

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    That's why, as an adult, the Hansel and Gretel story makes no sense. You woulnd't want to eat a fat kid-too little useable meat. You'd want to eat a kid who is mainly buff with a little fat on them, like a fine steak.

  • Raven Nation||

    Eating the fat kid: THAT'S why the story makes no sense?

  • Copernicus||

    One word: "marbling"

  • ||

    This!

  • Colonel_Angus||

    Are you some kind of "whale researcher"? I really admire the devotion and sacrifice that goes in to achievements in the science of food chemistry.

  • ||

    Are you some kind of "whale researcher"?

    He likes to think he is, but really he's just a run-of-the-mill chubby chaser.

  • ||

    NutraSweet has exposed my secret to the world. I'd feel shame, except I'm incapable of it.

  • Copernicus||

    In a George Costanza kind of way.

  • Well...||

    Whale tastes like horse meat. If you eat it raw, it tastes like raw horse meat.

  • Warty||

    Speaking of whales, I should note that rectal and White Indian disappeared at the same time today. Just saying.

  • ||

    Exactly at the same time.

    Anyone who still doesn't believe that they're one and the same is absolutely substanceless. She was also shriek.

  • Gojira||

    Is it possible that WI is actually the dominant, controlling personality, and this whole time we've actually been dealing with an alt in the form of rather?

    These are the questions that keep me up at night.

  • White Indian is living inside||

    ....your head, Rent-Free.

    Enjoy. LOL

  • Well yeah||

    We all need a court jester in the palace of our minds.

    Thanks for volunteering.

  • Comfort yourself...||

    ...with calling me Jester. I'm still living inside your head rent-free.

    Cuz I'm Top Gun.

  • You can't even get that right||

    LOL do your job like a good boy.

  • Well yeah||

    "Comfort yourself...with calling me Jester."

    Um, I did. How fucking stupid ARE YOU?

  • White Indian||

    And it's this idea of boundless and endless resources. And when you say "resources" you're talking about our relatives. You're talking about our family. Fish are our family; it's not a resource, its family. It requires all the respect.

    [...]

    As a CEO I must show a profit. If I don't show a profit," he said, "I'm fired... Simple as that. I'm out of a job. I have to show a profit."

    - I said, "To who?"

    - He said, "To you, the stockholder."

    - I said, "Well, are you married?"

    - He said, "Yes, I am."

    - I said, "Do you have children?"

    - He said, "Yes, I do. I have two. Two boys."

    I said, "When do you cease to be a CEO and become a grandfather?"

    There was a lot of silence there, because that was a moral question.

    Oren R. Lyons
    Indigenous Native American Prophecy (Elders Speak part 3)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9piIziXU9RE

    Transcript is here:
    http://jrussey.atspace.com/Flo.....ophecy.htm

  • Tman||

    Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

  • ||

    No hunter/gather ever found a Zagnut bar.

  • ||

    She's crawled out of bed just to try and pretend she isn't WI. But soon, now that the manic phase has worn off, she will be crushed under the depressive phase too much to even make such halfhearted attempts.

  • SOVIET PSYCHIATRY by Epi||

    Da, tovarisch. Dissent is always a mental illness. Correct, comrade?

  • Well yeah||

    She's crawled out of bed just to try and pretend she isn't WI.

    And the obviousness of it, you know? That's what I really appreciate, that she's too fucking stupid to see how obvious it is.

  • White Indian||

    And foragers didn't have diseases of civilization like diabetes* from eating foods of civilization.

    * Swedlund, A. (1997), Diabetes As a Disease of Civilization: The Impact of Culture Change on Indigenous Peoples. Medical Anthropology Quarterly, 11: 118–120.

  • You can't even get that right||

    And foragers didn't have diseases of civilization like diabetes

    "Type 1 diabetes is a polygenic disease, meaning many different genes contribute to its onset. "

    http://www.diabetes.org/

  • you can't even get that right||

    When you build a civilization with short doors, people with certain genetics for tallness have more head injuries.

    The genetics didn't cause the head injury.

  • You can't even get that right||

    When you have no refutation, you rely on argument by analogy.

    "Type 1 diabetes is a polygenic disease, meaning many different genes contribute to its onset. "

    http://www.diabetes.org/

  • Wilford Brimley||

    Diabeetus!

  • Someone smarter than you||

    "When you build a civilization with short doors, people with certain genetics for tallness have more head injuries.

    The genetics didn't cause the head injury."

    By your own argument, in that very post, neither did civilization.

  • It's a Disease of Civilization||

    Swedlund, A. (1997), Diabetes As a Disease of Civilization: The Impact of Culture Change on Indigenous Peoples. Medical Anthropology Quarterly, 11: 118–120.

    Need tons more references? scholar.google.com

  • You already used that one||

    And I already refuted it.

    "Type 1 diabetes is a polygenic disease, meaning many different genes contribute to its onset. "

    http://www.diabetes.org/

  • Someone smarter than rectal||

    You'll notice that when the moron paints itself into a corner by making a moronic, illogical argument that doesn't support its point, it goes back to its original assertion that "It's a Disease of Civilization".

    The it uses THE EXACT SAME CITATION!!! I KNOW RIGHT!!!

  • Realist||

    Need tons more references?

    No actually, you do because you're making the claims and not proving them.

  • A Parent||

    it goes back to its original assertion that "It's a Disease of Civilization".

    The it uses THE EXACT SAME CITATION!!! I KNOW RIGHT!!!

    I've seen this before. My 4 year old does it when my 6 year old says something he can't deal with.

    "YES HUH! YES HUH!"

    It's funny how even a 4 year old can seem juvenile when doing it.

  • White Indian||

    Beetles are our family too.

    As are bacteria.

    Killing off family like bacteria leads to mental illness.

    Can Gut Bacteria Affect Mental Health?
    http://news.discovery.com/huma.....10520.html

    We are all one on the evolutionary tree of life.

    The Tree of Life Web Project
    http://tolweb.org/tree/

  • We are all one TREE OF LIFE||

  • So...||

    ...the best way to be kind to Mother Earth, is to commit suicide.

    You first, White Idiot. We promise, we'll follow up right behind you.

  • ECOnomy = ECOlogy||

    the best way to be kind to Mother Earth, is to commit suicide

    That's stupid beyond belief. (Unless your rape culture is non-negotiable to you. If that's so, you'll have to face the consequences of it.)

    Is there any way in your mind that we humans can live on Mother Earth without destroying life and causing deforestation, degradation of the soil, desertification, and the Sixth Great Extinction?

    Humans did for about 2 million years in an evolutionarily stable lifeway. Seems there is something to learn from them.

    Garden and nurture, instead of rape. Use your imagination.

    ECO = Gk. oikos, "house, dwelling place, habitation."

    Why do you want to shit up our home planet? Stop, there's a better way.

  • So...||

    You gonna gt around to killing yourself any time soon?

    Cause no one cares about anything else...

  • Realist||

    That's accurate blah blah stupidity blah blah Garden and nurture blah blah

    Cry more.

  • Death Cult ||

    I expect such reactions from people like you.

    Premise Ten: The culture as a whole and most of its members are insane. The culture is driven by a death urge, an urge to destroy life.

    ~Derrick Jensen
    Endgame
    http://www.endgamethebook.org/.....emises.htm

  • So...||

    You gonna gt around to killing yourself any time soon?

    Cause no one cares about anything else...

  • Sooo....anti-Life||

  • So...||

    You gonna gt around to killing yourself any time soon?

    Cause no one cares about anything else...

  • Realist||

    Blah blah stupidity blah blah The culture blah blah as a whole blah blah is driven by blah blah life

    Cry more.

  • Abusers enjoy pain, crying||

    Violence against women and violence against the Earth, legitimated and promoted by both patriarchal religion and science, are interconnected assaults rooted in the eroticization of domination. The gynocidal culture’s image of woman as object and victim is paralleled by contemporary representations that continually show the Earth as a toy, machine, or violated object, as well as by the religious and scientific ideology that legitimates the possession, contamination, and destruction of Mother Earth.

    Jane Caputi

    Abusers (part 1)
    http://www.endgamethebook.org/excerpts.html

  • Realist||

    women blah blah are blah blah contamination blah blah stupidity

    Cry more

  • ||

    other than someone saying so, how do we know it's "mother Earth" and not 'daddy Earth'? While 'gynocidal' is a cute wordplay, it also ignores the reality that every creature that inhabits the planet partakes of its resources, partly because those resources are there for the taking. Say, you don't suppose the planet is a living ecosystem, do you, wherein the creatures that live on it have this kind of cycle thing going on with a food chain, regeneration, and all the rest? Nah...it's a lot easier to turn the Earth into a women's studies lecture.

  • Radioactive||

    quelle douche!!!

  • Quahog||

    Humans did for about 2 million years in an evolutionarily stable lifeway. Seems there is something to learn from them.

    Not really. We were responsible for the extinction of many species of large land animals well before settled agriculture, not to mention the Neanderthal.

  • Dinosaurs||

    Humans wiped us out too!

    Fred Flintstone ate the last of us!

  • The Ingenious Hidalgo||

    Fish are our family; it's not a resource, its family.

    Well... that might become a thing.

  • Maritimer||

    Political drama over fisheries' policy? What is this, Canada?

  • Earthlings Make the Connection||

    Online for free (click on "feature film")now at:

    Earthlings - Make the Connection
    narrated by Joaquin Phoenix
    http://www.earthlings.com/

  • Beware watching this||

    It's very upsetting to anybody with the slightest tinge of a conscience. It will tear you apart. You will cry.

  • You can't even get that right||

    I laughed at the stupidity of it.

  • I assumed as much||

    Premise Fourteen: From birth on—and probably from conception, but I’m not sure how I’d make the case—we are individually and collectively enculturated to hate life, hate the natural world, hate the wild, hate wild animals, hate women, hate children, hate our bodies, hate and fear our emotions, hate ourselves. If we did not hate the world, we could not allow it to be destroyed before our eyes. If we did not hate ourselves, we could not allow our homes—and our bodies—to be poisoned.

    ~Derrick Jensen
    Endgame
    http://www.endgamethebook.org/.....emises.htm

  • You can't even get that right||

    None of that has anything to do with the stupidity of your video.

    And you're relying on the arguments of a registered child molester.

    http://www.familywatchdog.us/

  • Derrick Jensen||

    I'm so obscure, even my own mother doesn't recognize me!

  • Sex Offender Registry||

    I recognize you just fine.

  • Libel and Slander?||

    Search Criteria:
    jensen, derrick, CA, ID, OR, WA
    No offenders found.

    ???

  • Who said anything...||

    About Derrick Jensen being a sex offender you fucking retard?

    Proving once again you can't read worth a fuck.

  • Derrick Jensen||

    Blame White Indian for bringing up the subject of me, Derrick Jensen.

  • Esteban||

    I hate you.

  • ##||

    Enculturated to hate everything?? Derrick is seriously disturbed and in need of professional help. If you truly believe that nonsense then you have a lot of problems that have nothing to do with civilization or anything else outside your own skull. All this time I thought that you were just an obnoxious troll but now I see that it's a cry for help from your paranoid misery. I don't hate you, I pity you.

  • ||

    You know, it's too bad that Ricardo Montalbán died. Not just because we've lost his awesomeness, but also because it means no Moby-Dick with him playing Ahab. And Shatner playing his nemesis, the White Whale.

  • ##||

    KAHN!!! I'll bite your leg off for that!

  • inexcusable juris imprudent||

    This may be bad form, but the catch share is what they've been doing up in Alaska and it seems to be working decently there. Other than ivory tower tone deafness, what is the beef from these fishermen?

  • AK||

    Basically the quota system in Alaska has shifted the power to entities with enough money to get legislation passed that benefits them and shuts out smaller entities. The boards and commissions do their bidding and distort the marketplace. It's much easier for the Seattle or Japan-based conglomerates to navigate the regulatory framework of the quota system and other community-based catch shares. The CQE system has seriously hurt many communities and fisherman that lack the money/time/manpower to work the system.

    This is strictly my take from having sat through interminable meetings of fishermen who like to 1. talk til ears start to bleed and 2. bitch about everything.

    And then you have the state v. federal fisheries and the various players and power brokers in each system.

  • MJ||

    "A surprising and growing number of Democratic elected officials are also expressing annoyance and outright opposition. Sen. Kerry, the Democrat of Massachusetts who was his party’s presidential nominee in 2004, said Friday, “Because of federal regulations limiting fishing in our waters, a lot of our fisherman have been put out of business or pushed the brink.”

    Has Kerry been bought by "Big Fish"?

    That's the narrative we ususally get when a politician goes to bat opposing regulations for an industry. Or is the more rational explanation that pols have a tendency to represent the interests of an industry that employs a significant number of their constituents because underemployed & unemployed workers tend to vote angry?

  • ||

    Has Kerry been bought by big fishing? Naw, Fried fish goes well with ketchup!

  • SamIam||

    So Kerry, Schumer and Frank are concerned when government regulations destroy jobs in Mass but don't care when EPA regulations destroy jobs in the south?

  • MJ||

    Southerners do not vote for them, so, no, they do not care.

  • Copernicus||

    That, of course, is the essence. They want the government to regulate everything, except....

  • Colonel_Angus||

    NOAA should intersperse promotional messages in their transmissions of weather information during non threatening conditions. They could make some extra bread.

  • Lamarck's Giraffe||

    rather/WI/shriek has created a new variation on the "Gish Gallop", wherein he/she spews out so much bullshit in a short period of time that it is impossible to fight back with the truth. I nominate this variation on the tactic be named the "White Indian Gambol".

  • Lamarck's Giraffe||

    Explanation of the Gish Gallop: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

  • JMW||

    I nominate this variation on the tactic be named the "White Indian Gambol".

    Count me in as a supporter of the motion.

  • sevo||

    "rather/WI/shriek has created a new variation on the "Gish Gallop", wherein he/she spews out so much bullshit in a short period of time that it is impossible to fight back with the truth. I nominate this variation on the tactic be named the "White Indian Gambol"."

    This may be true, but it only happens with the *willing* cooperation of supposedly intelligent people posting here.
    Rather/WI are here for attention; that's all. Denied that attention, s/he-they-it will cease to post here. This is not a mystery; every one of the supposedly intelligent responders knows it. And yet, in the attempt to be 'more clever' than rather/WI, those supposedly intelligent people post RESPONSES to rather/WI.
    I repeat:
    Feed vermin and you get vermin shit.

  • ||

    I got a boat muthafucker, don't you ever forget. . .

  • CSI||

    Is this article for real? Enforging limits may mean some jobs, but overfishing would ultimately destroy far more jobs, permanently. We've seen time and time again that scientists don't fully understand fisheries. Fishermen themselves tend to overestimate the amount of fish. When it comes to fisheries, its best to err on the side of under- rather than over-fishing.

  • Radioactive||

    especially if you're a fish...

  • NotSure||

    The solution is to privatise the Oceans, I know that lots of people will get heart attacks just hearing the idea, but think about it. If fishing companies cannot simply trawl where they want, but are forced to take care of their fish stocks within their zone of ownership, the problem of overfishing will quickly be solved.

  • Number 2||

    WTF is the "under secretary of commerce for oceans and atmosphere?" Since when does the atmosphere engage in commerce?

  • ##||

    It's simple, you just need to think like a bureaucrat. According to the individual mandate, living is a form of interstate commmerce because something that you do sometime will effect interstate commerce. By keeping you alive and breathing, the atmosphere is helping you engage in interstate commerce and therefore subject to regulation. If you inhale, cross a state line, and exhale in another state then it's probably taxable too.

  • Thom||

    Where is the discussion of the policy? Without that there's no way to tell if this policy she's using is smart, dumb, or anythings at all.

    Telling us that many politicians dislike her isn't much to go.

    I'm disappointed that Reason posted this content free article.

  • ||

    This barely scratches the surface of NOAA and the catch shares fiasco. The best single source to read about it is The Gloucester Times.

    Here's a good generic AP article about the abuses* of the program. I'm not sure why something like this doesn't make it into the Reason article...last minute deadline filing, maybe?

    * This isn't just about regulations or government intrusion...this is a scandal.

    Sadly unmentioned here is that the program is administered essentially like the DEA: stealing cash and goods from citizens for the profit of NOAA. They've used the fines and auctions to buy things like luxury cars, boats, and international travel for NOAA and its employees. The more they fined or equipment they stole, the more they got to spend on themselves.

    Giving the profit motive to the government is a scary thing, since it also has a monopoly on force. Why come up with a business plan when you can just extort money at gunpoint?

    This has been a clusterfuck nearly as severe as Project Gunrunner, with 1/1000th of the press. (It doesn't involve the govt + guns + crime + Mexicans: hot buttons which scare a lot of different people).

    You know something is bad when democrats are (for once) trying to end something Obama has done or force out one of his appointees...and the Republicans will actually be seen in public supporting them.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    >Memo to President Obama: When Charles >Schumer... and the Gloucester >Fishermen’s Wives Association are all >warning that your regulations are >destroying jobs...

    Is this nuanced satire or is Ira having a bad day?

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    t the program is administered essentially like the DEA: stealing cash and goods from citizens for the profit of NOAA. They've used the fines and auctions to buy things like luxury cars, boats, and international travel for NOAA and its employees. The more they fined or equipment they stole, the more they got to spend on themselves.

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