How to Slash the State

14 ways to dismantle a monstrous government, one program at a time

Like sequels to Saw, the government just keeps coming, growing larger, more expensive, and moreappalling each year. In times of economic distress, even at the increasing risk of default, the size, scope, and cost of federal, state, and local governments continue to balloon, swallowing everything in their path. For 10 solid years, and especially since September 2008, spending has boomed, the Federal Register has exploded, and Congress altered American life at an accelerating pace. 

Yet loud critics of big government—especially but not only Republican politicians—are often reduced to an awkward stammer when put on the spot by the all-important question, “So what would you cut?” Well, stammer no more. 

Consider the following a Halloween-themed cheat sheet for explaining who, what, where, when, and why whole swaths of government need to be cut or euthanized outright, so that taxpayer money is spent more productively, the remaining government services perform better, and the United States can finally begin its long slow climb toward solvency. 

We’ve asked analysts from the nation’s capital and around the world to offer tips and tricks for fighting off the cold, cold monster that is the state. The suggestions below are intended not as a last word but as a starting point: As in any good slasher movie, the savvy viewer will soon see potential victims everywhere. 

Overhaul Medicaid

Imagine a government-run health care program that limits medical access for millions of patients, is racked by uncontrollably rising costs, and in many instances produces health outcomes demonstrably worse than having no insurance at all. The program exists, and it’s called Medicaid.

Created to provide aid to the country’s poorest and sickest individuals, the joint federal-state program was initially intended as a low-cost bulwark against further government intervention in the health care system. In 1965, its first year in operation, the program cost about $9 billion in inflation-adjusted dollars. But instead of heading off further government intervention, it became the vehicle for much of the government’s expansion into the health care sector. Between 1970 and 2000, the program grew from $29 billion to $250 billion in 2010 dollars.

This year the Department of Health and Human Services expects the total cost of Medicaid to top half a trillion dollars. And according to the National Association of State Budget Officers, it will account for more than 20 percent of total state spending. Medicaid outspends all other welfare programs combined, and, if not for the Medicare prescription drug benefit, it would already be more expensive than any other entitlement.

What do we get for all that money? Not much. Recent studies at the University of Virginia, the University of Pennsylvania, and Columbia University and Cornell indicate that in cases involving colon cancer, vascular disease, and several other maladies, Medicaid’s health outcomes are frequently worse or no better than the outcomes for individuals who lack health insurance entirely.  Yet 46 million Americans are enrolled in the program—a figure that is projected to increase by 16 million over the next decade, thanks to ObamaCare.

Shuttering the program remains politically infeasible, and ObamaCare’s reliance on Medicaid to expand health coverage has dimmed the prospects for reform. But states could opt out of the technically voluntary program, and the rapidly deteriorating fiscal outlook of both Medicaid and the country means an overhaul may become necessary long before politicians build up the courage to tackle it. 

The first step is to stop the matching grant funding process, in which states receive federal money for each Medicaid dollar they spend—creating an incentive for ever greater spending. Instead, the program should be funded by federal block grants indexed to the rising cost of health care. Better yet, scrap the program entirely in favor of a temporary assistance program that doesn’t create long-term dependency. That may sound radical, but the alternative is to perpetuate the ugly and unsustainable status quo, in which we devote ever more resources to a program that fails both taxpayers and patients.—Peter Suderman

Bring the Troops Home

You can’t make a serious dent in government spending without tackling the military budget. And the quickest way to reduce Pentagon spending is to end, as fast as physically possible, our ongoing occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

So far those two wars have cost well over $1 trillion—on par with this year’s federal budget deficit—almost all of it spent through off-budget, fiscally reckless “emergency” supplemental bills that smuggled in all sorts of nonemergency weapons pork and social programs. And if the wars had never been fought we could have saved something more precious than taxpayer money—tens of thousands of human lives.

We don’t know how long the wars will last if we don’t withdraw now, so we can’t say for sure how much a swift and total deoccupation would save. President Barack Obama has promised a wind-down in Iraq that would reduce troop levels to 50,000 by 2011 and zero by 2012, but there are already signs the timetable will be pushed back. If Obama lived up to his plans, Brookings Institution analyst Michael O’Hanlon reckons, they probably would save “$50 billion to $70 billion in fiscal 2011 and perhaps $80 billion to $100 billion a year in 2012 and beyond.”

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    That chainsaw needs a way bigger bar on it.

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    Nothing will be cut. Much like Tobe Hooper's editing of the film.

  • Warty||

    All you need to cut is one item: waste, fraud, and abuse.

    Wait, is that one item or three? Or is each instance of waste, fraud, or abuse an item? Fucking Obama and his brainteasers.

  • Jack Bauer||

    I can easily think of hundreds of things to cut.

  • Wegie||

    But of course. Welfare and federal education programs.

  • Max||

    You assholes better hope the donations keep coming in because this shit will never do well in the free market place. It's just too fucking stupid for folks to buy.

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    Thus decreed Max, arbiter of the market.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    But...donations are part of the free market you fuckface. People have freely chosen to give their money away to prop up Reason.

    Now the NYT on the other hand...well...you might have to force people to shell over their money for that worthless tripe of a rag.

  • Blind Bull||

    NYT trading at $7.83

    Common man, that's a growth stock! Everybody in!!!!

  • Brett L||

    Jesus. The physical plant and real estate must be worth $8/share.

  • Wegie||

    Obama has already thought of that.

  • Jorj X. McKie||

    You meant to post that here: http://www.pbs.org/

  • Wegie||

    Max...well not smart!

  • Max's Mom||

    Honey, you're tense. Come up from the basement and give Mommy some lovin'.

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    Is anyone else getting a little annoyed by this slasher flick stuff? Sure it's fun, but not exactly up to Reason's intellectual standards.

  • Max||

    Reason's intellectual standards? You're kidding, right?

  • Dave||

    I came here in the last month or so honestly looking to learn more about what Libertarianism is saying/defining itself today. Reading Hayek, Mises etc, in a true exploration of rethinking the corrupt system we are in.

    The tone of the posts here really reflects poorly on the Libertarian/Austrian economic community, IF that is what Reason is supposed to be a part of.

    Anyone have any other sites where people seriously discuss this stuff toward making an impact on the larger community?

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    Concern troll is concerned?

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    You will find some of the best arguments around with regard to public policy here. However, like any locker or chat room, it comes with a healthy dose of harsh commentary, trolls, spam, bots, and other stuff. Look past that and you can learn a lot.

    One thing I've found (at least here) about trolls: The more entertaining they are, the shorter their shelf life. And Max has been around forever.

  • Warty||

    Dude, the height of libertarianism is SugarFree's Nancy Pelosi slashfic. Stick around and be edumucated.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    If you are disgusted by the harsh langauge, I know I am at least partially "at fault" for perpetuating it. But that's the nature of this horrible horrible place. We are pigs reveling in our own crapulence. Many of us can sense the FCC sensors willing to swoop down and turn this forum of filty langauge into a desert of white bread banality. So we are gettin' while the gettin's good.

    But for reference, you probably already know this, Mises.org has much more "informed" and less "gratuitous" discussion. Like I always say "Go to Mises if you want to intellectualism. Come to Reason if you want Sugarfree's Sarah Palin/Christine O'Donnell lesbian queeffest slash fiction".

  • -||

    The tone of the posts here really reflects poorly on the Libertarian/Austrian economic community, IF that is what Reason is supposed to be a part of.

    Reason (the magazine) is legit and worthwhile. But you're right about the commentariat. It's overrun with trolls and flamers and bored, frustrated, lowlife narcissists. Best bet is to read the articles and avoid the comments altogether.

  • Dave||

    I do find alot of comments informative and hilarious. And of course no FCC required. But my initial gut reaction, when looking for a like-minded community, and to learn more about it as a realistic alternative to the status quo, was, whoa, maybe this isn't the place. Just putting it out there.

    I definitely value a place to ask questions, whether pure, or devil's advocate-type, in response to Reason articles, to help flush out ideas and build cases to take elsewhere.

    Appreciate the comments.

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    Dave, you go find that place buddy. And when you get so depressed and sick and bored with the intellectualism and complete lack of hope it brings, we'll welcome you back with open arms.

  • Warty||

    This place is the most fun internet community I've ever found. We have discussions of varying seriousness, spew vile insults at each other, libel dickead lawyers, and I get a place to post metal links for you philistines to ignore. I'm sure the Reason Foundation is horrified at what this place has become.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    Cyst-man, if I have a religion, Metal is it.

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    It's a great balance. After the hell that is Kos & the misery that is birth certificates & "muslins"- trying to find my way, this place is pret-ty comfy. I love this site.

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    I bailed out of HuffPo when I had to use terms like "@ss" and "h-e-doubletoothpicks".

  • LeSigh||

    You forgot one. Every once in awhile, someone figures out how to get around the image filter and we get to see lobster girl.

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    I want to see lobster girl!

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    "This place is the most fun internet community I've ever found. We have discussions of varying seriousness, spew vile insults at each other, libel dickead lawyers, and I get a place to post metal links for you philistines to ignore. I'm sure the Reason Foundation is horrified at what this place has become."

    Agree. I always get a good laugh out of what I read here from my fellow commenter's. And, believe it or not, I have actually learned something. I'll bet Reason is proud.

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    And the metal is always welcome.

  • DesigNate||

    +1,000,000 for metal

  • dave b.||

    Mises.org is #1 in my book for everything Austrian economics related, but Dailypaul is a close second.

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    Hey man, that's an open comment thread.

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    Reason is seeing the handwriting on the wall. Respected political analysts are talking about 100 seats going Republican and that is because of the Tea Party. Tea Party people will have no problem cutting crap from government even though some Republicans will, but back to Reason. Reason threw away all credibility when they sucked Obama off 2 years ago, and now they end up with the Kochs getting called out.

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    This is only slightly a threadjack but this just appeared at Huffington Post of all places:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....lide_image

    Myth: Herbert Hoover didn’t do anything to counteract the Great Depression (and FDR saved the day with The New Deal).

    Hoover tried many things, but sadly, America might have been better off if he hadn’t. But was the new guy— Franklin Delano Roosevelt -- really all that different? The truth is, most of FDR’s initiatives were simply continuations (or expansions) of Hoover-era policies. . . . their supposed differences are mostly the product of PR spun by both sides during the 1932 election.

    So why did a strategy that failed for Hoover work for FDR? Easy: it didn’t. In fact, the series of social and economic reforms enacted by FDR (collectively known as the New Deal) delayed recovery . . . .

  • Joe M||

    That entire article is a load of bullshit. The last sentence: "What really revived the American economy? War."

    Idiocy.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    It would have been more accurate if it said "What really helped perpetuate the ever-increasing size of the state, while pulling the wool over the people's eyes as their money was devalued to kill barbarians abroad and entrench generations of bureacrats and government contractors? War."

    Idiocy indeed.

  • Jorj X. McKie||

    But, but, the Greatest Generation!

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    If it was war why did it not recover till after the war and after many of the most egregious market interventions were undone?

    That said at least it's not typical Keynesian progressive tripe.

  • JoshINHB||

    No, its much much worse.

    This reverence for the the economic salvation of WWII is becoming ever more popular to progs. Even Krugnuts has taken up the meme.

    Terrible times are ahead if the progs and establishment keep citing this myth.

  • Brett L||

    If we're gonna go after the Chinese, can somebody get us a Zombie MacArthur?

  • DesigNate||

    Zombie MacArthur would kick balls!

  • Krugnutz in 1946||

    But we have to keep the War Machine going! If we slash millitary spending aggregate demand will plunge, and we'll be back in the depression!

    Right Draco?

  • CrackertyAssCracker||

    It is impressive that they would ever admit any sort of similarity at all between Herbert-monocle-wearing-Hoover and Saint Roosevelt. However there is still lots of spin,straw men, and half truths spread throughout all the myths.

  • Venture Capitalist||

    From Bailey's DOE piece:

    federal R&D subsidies have utterly failed as a substitute for competition and the lure of profits

    Goddamn right! It is nigh impossible to get some wasteofspace scientist to fucking commit to a project. And why would they when the bulk of their salary is guaranteed by grant money. Fucking I've seen this disincentive closeup. It's maddening.

    You want innovation? You cut the funding balls off every scientist on the public teat. We'd be partying on Mars and every CVS would offer Compound-C™ OTC cancer balm in a decade.

  • IceTrey||

    There's a very simple way to fix the federal government. Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments (if they were even properly ratified) and get rid of the Fed (which is totally unconstitutional).

  • Dave||

    Can't we find some common cause here?

    http://www.truthdig.com/report....._20101005/

    If we are ever to move the debate forward, to win hearts and minds, don't we need to?

    While the author talks of taking care of the poor and unemployed, he also talks of dismantling the Corporate State. He is against the 2 party duopoly.

    Honest Libertarians do not want government favoring business, as it impedes the cause of true competition and thus true opportunity.

    Instead of preaching to the choir, why can't we find common subjects with others who think the status quo stinks, even if they are far from purists of our stripe, and show good faith by tackling some of the same corruption/failings we both see, using Libertarian principles and explanations, in good faith, and with patience. Waiting for everyone else to just jump onboard whole hog and come begging at our door for our wisdom, just doesn't seem productive.

    There is so much skepticism and outrage at the system out there. I bet we'll never see this opportunity again in our lifetimes for so many to be so receptive to new messages, alternative outlooks, now that the status quo is exploding in their face.

    We would be fools not to use this opportunity constructively, as opposed to burning bridges.

  • Dave||

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    I'm not sure you're cynical enough for these parts. Most of us have given up and are simply counting down to Armageddon.

  • Dave||

    lol

  • T||

    Not counting down, MP, stocking up: Bullets, spare parts, and canned food. You can't be an apocalyptic warlord without some prior planning.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    Don't forget hookers, booker T washington. Sweet, non-english speaking, confused, lost, malnourished hookers. They also double as food.

  • Venture Capitalist||

    Food? Like dairy cattle? That would make their 'byproduct' veal.

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    Well, after one birth, they could produce milk indefinitely.

  • Nipplemancer||

    so we should stock up on bag balm as well?

  • Krugnutz in 1946||

    What MP said. Good luck with that. Really. You'll need it. I'm too far gone to even communicate with "those people" any more about anything political.

    For Example, education:

    'Normal' Person: "What do you think we should do about our education problem?"

    Me: "Ummm, I dunno. How bout this. Stop pointing a gun at me and making me pay for a unionized kidnapping and brainwashing apparatus.

    'Normal' Person: "You are insane".

    Me : "well, if not liking having my money stolen from me so that kids get kidnapped and brainwashed makes me crazy, then ya, I guess I'm crazy. Did you go to a public school?".

    Normal : "Of course I went to a public school, you Racist".

    -----

    Actually a whole series of debates like this in the vein of "Interview with a Zombie" would be fun.

  • Not Krugnutz in 1946||

    crap, forgot to change fake name.

    Oh well. This one will go down as anonyomus I guess.

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    If there's one thing that is clear in looking at this economy, it's that the people at the bottom, especially the sick and injured, are getting just too damn much. Kicking a bunch of people off of Medicaid so you can retrench to "block grants" -- what a great idea! That'll stimulate confidence and demand in an deflationary economy for sure. Thanks, brainiac!

    If there is a second thing that is clear about this economy, it's that we are not car-dependent enough, and our highway money needs to blacktop some more lanes to the exurban asteriod belt. Sidewalks? Bike paths? Good Lord! Next thing you know, some people might actually bike or walk instead of revving up the Escalade for a milk run.

    My oh my oh my. I just don't understand how these capital-L Libertarian geniuses can't get a foothold in the political process, even with their Koch money backing.

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    Put your titty back in, Adele.

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    "Kicking a bunch of people off of Medicaid so you can retrench to "block grants" -- what a great idea! That'll stimulate confidence and demand in an deflationary economy for sure. Thanks, brainiac!"

    Yeah, because if something is considered "stimulus" it can be justified warts and all.

    "If there is a second thing that is clear about this economy, it's that we are not car-dependent enough, and our highway money needs to blacktop some more lanes to the exurban asteriod belt. Sidewalks? Bike paths? Good Lord! Next thing you know, some people might actually bike or walk instead of revving up the Escalade for a milk run."

    When we have to appropriate additional funds for highway maintenance from additional taxes because the money that was supposed to go to highways is going towards local projects there is a clear inefficiency in the system. If you pulled your head out of your ass, you might realize that. Personally, I agree that the government over subsidizes auto transportation networks, but we at least have to raise the money to pay for maintenance in the short term until we can more radically alter the system. Why can't states that already have programs for funding sidewalks and bike paths just pay for such things on their own? You see, the issue is that the states get too many goodies from the Feds that make them complacent. If they were required to fund all of their own local projects without additional funding, the states would actually make smart choices based on cost and benefits. They might become a bit more efficient. If you really want bike paths, convince your local citizenry to pay more local taxes for such things.

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    +1

  • Venture Capitalist||

    My family member turned down a decent job b/c it meant having to pay for her own health insurance instead of staying on the dole. The cost of the private company's plan was greater than the salary difference between her current (dole-eligible) rate and the offered hourly rate. But yeah, keep disincentivizing the workers. It's really an awesome idea that positively impacts GDP.

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    So is your brood of bums and half-wits the standard of measurement for a nation of 300+ Million people?

    Is your your unverified anecdote rebuttal to broad national surveys showing seekers outnumbering openings something on the order of 5 to 1?

    How about this: I personally know somebody who wants a job but can't find one, dole notwithstanding. Have our little anecdotal assertions now cancelled eachother out? Are we back to zero?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    I'm amazed you actually seem to think that we can actually get out of this mess without experiencing quite a bit of pain first.

    Have you considered the possibility that deflation and cuts just might be inevitable, regardless of how long the government and the Fed try to play "extend and pretend"? What bullets do they have left in the gun other than QE2?

    And the bottom line is, unless you make cuts to more than one of the Big Five--SS, defense, Medicare, Medicaid, and/or unemployment/entitlements, we don't get back on solid fiscal footing. That's not conjecture, that's a mathematical fact--and if interest rates go back to 2007 levels, our debt obligation on the interest goes up another $600-800 billion/yr.

    What sort of economic engine is going to make up for 12% of GDP deficit spending? Are you really that eager to see the Shopping Mall Economic Model do another 35-year run?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Danny has been snorting the Kool-Aid straight from the pouch again. Fuck that water and sugar, go for the pure stuff.

  • DesigNate||

    I don't even want to dignify your post with a comment, but I guess I just did.

    Libertarians can't get a foothold because douchebags like you think you know everything and that the government is responsible for taking care of every little fucking thing your pretty little head can come up with.

    The simple fact of the matter is that American's, on both sides of the aisle, are unwilling to make the tough decisions to cut their toes off so they don't lose the whole damn leg to gangrene.

  • Dave||

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    reduced to an awkward stammer when put on the spot by the all-important question, “So what would you cut?”

    Proper responses (take your pick):

    (1) "What have you got?"

    (2) "What would you like to cut? Is it OK with you if we start there?"

  • Dave||

    RE Privatizing Public Lands

    This was kind of interesting:
    http://www.ti.org/liberty.html

  • Dave||

    Nutshell:
    "Libertarians will be much better off if they work with, rather than against, environmentalists. To do so, libertarians must:

    Learn to think of the economy as an ecosystem;
    Not argue with environmentalists over technical issues;
    Instead, focus on the lack of property rights as the fundamental environmental problem;
    Play on environmental suspicions of big government; and
    In the case of federal lands, worry more about the incentives facing land managers than on who actually holds title to the land."

  • cynical||

    Sure, maybe when environmentalists learn to think of the economy as an ecosystem, and recognize that killing a displeasing corporate behavior through regulations may be the equivalent of killing an annoying pest that happened to play a critical ecological role. Also, when environmentalists learn to value human beings over abstract concepts like "the environment".

    Write me when that happens, k?

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    "environmentalists learn to think of the economy as an ecosystem"

    Actually I think most enviornmenalists not recongize that this is true. They just also know that the economy is a subset of the natural environement. So it needs to be containted so it doesn't over it, and thus kill the whole thing.

  • robc||

    Dude, you are going to burn yourself out preaching to the choir.

    Pacing is important.

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    One thing not mentioned in this article nor on C-Span this morning when this article was discussed is reducing or freezing federal salaries and benefits, including those for Congress. Government salaries at all levels have outpaced the private sector, especially at the upper end of the pay scale. If you look at the GS pay scale over time, you will see that it doubles about every 10 years. Without drastic changes, the current federal pay system is not sustainable in the long run.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    But Paula, the Angels(Patent Pending) deserve a Lexus, BMW, and jail-bait mistresses!

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    If you supported the Bush tax cuts and/or the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, kindly shut the fuck up about the deficit. Morons.

  • Demoshit||

    If you voted for a Democrat who went lock-step with Bush post 9-11 to start and continue pointless wars and voted for an adminstration that was cozily funded by corporations you claim to hate, shut the fuck up about the tax cuts. Penis Sheaths.

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    Seriously, kill yourself.

    If I vote Democratic, at least they can win a fucking election.

  • dunkel||

    YAY for you cuntpickle. Your team "who went lock-step with Bush post 9-11 to start and continue pointless wars and voted for an adminstration that was cozily funded by corporations you claim to hate" won an election. The giant douche beat the turd sandwich, and you see it as a WIN for you....

    ...not everybody can know anything...

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    YAY for you cuntpickle.

    LOL. Thanks for this.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Libertaridan and Danny are now snorting the dry Kool-Aid. Be sure to recycle the pouches, guys.

  • Demoshit||

    Yes, convincing the deluded majority (you have kept deluded through your poor schools) to vote for your side by offering them free(read:stolen) shit is laudable indeed. Is winning a rigged game really winning? I suppose it is if you have no problem urging your opposition to simply die.

    If I vote Democratic/Republican, kill me, because I would have lost the ability to read AND breathe on my own.

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    I don't want to kill you; I said "kill yourself". It's in everyone's rational self-interest.

    No one's saying the Democrats are perfect, but they're clearly preferable to the GOP. Anyone who demands purity candidates like yourself doesn't live in the real world.

    And, by the way, if/when a Libertardian ever takes office, they'll fuck things up, too. Sorry to pop your little alternate reality bubble.

  • Demoshit||

    And sweet compromise has wrought what for us? Unsustainable policies? Perpetual dependents? Endless streams of pissed off vegenance-driven foreigners? Elected officials with no respect for the ideas that defined their positions in the first place? I think I'd rather shoot for perfection and fail, than shoot for whatever the fuck you call this bullshit and succeed.

    Oh, and FUCK everyone else's "self-interest". I've got a 6 O'Clock fuckfest with your mother that I can't be skipped (her checks finally stopped bouncing), and I'd like to see what is up with that Old Scallop smell.

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    LOL, psychopath

  • Demoshit||

    LOL, sadist

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    The intellectual prowess of progressives is truly awe inspiring.

    Obama: Singed PATRIOT act.
    Obama: Keeps gitmo open.
    Obama: Expanded war in Afghanistan.
    Obama: Bailed out his Wall Street banker buds.
    Obama: Is against gay marriage.

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    DERP

    I just lambasted someone for demanding purity from his political party, and you go and repeat the same dumb thing.

    Here's how party politics works (since none of you will ever get elected or vote for someone who will): it's messy. You have to make compromises in order to get things done.

    At least Democrats and Republicans are in the fucking arena. Libertardians just sit on the fence and throw stones. Assholes. Worthless human beings.

  • Translated Libertardian||

    At least Democrats and Republicans are willing to ruin people's lives across the planet for the sake of political "goals". Libertardians just want to be left alone and not intervene in other people's business. Assholes. Worthless Human Beings.

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    Yeah, right. I'm sure there are TONS of libertardians on Wall Street who "just wanted to be left alone" until they needed help.

    You're no more self-sufficient than anyone else in this culture. You rely on dozens, probably hundreds of people every day to prepare the food you buy, supply your power, police your streets, etc. etc.

    Whining fucks, all of you. Jesus.

  • Jordan||

    Somebody doesn't understand the difference between voluntary cooperation and coercion.

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    You have to make compromises in order to get things done. - Liberaltard

    What got done then? All those people who are can't afford their health insurance anymore? Big accomplishment that? Quadrupled deficit? Yeah that was ambitious. Massive monetization? (read tax on the poorest) That was sure a winner. Outrageous unemployment?

    You know you're right. Obama sure has accomplished quite a bit.

    Yeah, right. I'm sure there are TONS of libertardians on Wall Street who "just wanted to be left alone" until they needed help. - Liberaltard

    Citation needed.

  • Duopolist||

    Let him dick-ride Obama all the way off the cliff. There's nothing you can do with someone who buys beer and peanuts with food stamps, screams obscenities with his pants around his ankles, and believes that getting butt-raped by his own team is better then being skull-fucked by the other team.

  • 35N4P2BYY||

    Let's do a compare and contrast:

    Bush: Bailed out his Wall Street buddies.
    Obama: Bailed out his Wall Street AND Union buddies.
    Bush: Initialized two wars and expanded one
    Obama: Initiated the Afghan Surge
    Bush: Opened Gitmo
    Obama: Hasn't closed it.
    Bush: Is against gay marriage.
    Obama: Is against gay marriage.
    Bush: Expanded federal education spending with out any noticeable effect.
    Obama: Expanded federal education spending with out any noticeable effect.

    Yes, this two party system is sure giving the American people a wide variety of policy choices and options.

    But you go ahead and root for team blue or team red with the same intellectual depth and blind loyalism as that of a fan of a failed sports franchise, hope that it works for you. Guess so long as you do not have to think for yourself and reason your way through a complex issue then every things A-Okay. It probably is easier to barf up Maddow/Oberman/Rush/Hannity quotes than it is to actually gather and evaluate information for one's self.

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    My God. In an ocean of retards, you truly are Poseidon.

  • planodoc||

    Awesome. I will use this weekly or more.

  • 35N4P2BYY||

    Yes, you don't have that trademarked do you or is it public domain.

  • Raven Nation||

    OMG: this is my "fall out of my chair Reason laugh of the week." +100

  • Jorj X. McKie||

    In a world of assholes he's Uranus!

  • Greer||

    Unfortuately the article is titled "how to slash the state" but it nevers says how. It say What to cut not how to do it. (Which what most of this website it about, being outside looking in, bitching that if we only had the power...).

    Yeah, you cut Headstart program, and after school day care and you'd have every poor victim in the country crying about how the ONLY way they can have their kids in school is with Headstart, free lunch, and after school daycare. Then Jesse Jackson takes up the cause and even thinking this shit makes you a racist and a hater of the poor.

    Cut the DOE. Yeah, see how far you get with that.

  • Lord Ballsac||

    We either take the chemo or die from the cancer Greer. Unfortunately, most people don't recognize we have a "smoking" problem at all. Cancer it is then. See you on the other side.

  • ||

    Oh, you want a politically viable solution? That's the one we have now...spend 'til we're broke.

    Simply put, the voting populace will not accept the cuts that are necessary, and will continue to keep their collective heads in the sand until China phones in with a wake-up call.

  • ||

    Like sequels to Saw, the government just keeps coming

    Unlike the Saw franchise, it's actually scary.

  • COINTELPRO||

    But like Saw, it's a bloody mess created by sadists.

  • Matrix||

    unlike the bloody mess created by statists?

  • ||

    And the quickest way to reduce Pentagon spending is to end, as fast as physically possible, our ongoing occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Except, at least in theory, they are actually doing something there. Agree or disagree that they should be or are successful but at least there is some actual fighting going on there.

    If you want to reduce the military budget, end the 60+ year occupation of Germany and Japan. Remove our human 58,000 man shield from Korea. How many are policing the Balkans? There isn't ANY justification for our continued massive deployment in those areas.

    Afghanistan and Iraq remain a contentious position. Our forces in Europe should not be.

  • Raven Nation||

    Yeah, this is a point (in the original article) that needs to be thought through more. I'm ambivalent about both wars (which is a move away from supporting both originally). But you can't cut a military budget if the ONLY reason is to save money. Getting out of Germany, Japan, Korea, makes sense & can be explained both fiscally and strategically. Of course, if Obama were to promote this, the Repubs would immediately start screaming he was soft on defense. And given that he can't really be bothered explaining things to people...

  • ||

    Well, who's going to protect Germany from Germany?

  • ||

    overall some great ideas here, although I notice they didn't mention Medicare, or SS. Also, I'm not a fan of making the Federal parks state parks just to do it. Seems like it's just passing the buck. But overall a pretty good start.

  • ||

    Except where our troops are engaged in actual warfighting, they shouldn't be deployed in any countries right now.

    No troops in Europe, Japan, Korea, etc.

    Demobilize formations as they come home, with restructuring to maintain a skeleton cadre in case we need to remoblize.

    OK, I've cut the military. Can I start on entitlements and discretionary spending now?

  • ||

    +1

  • Brett L||

    Oy. I can hear the shrieking now. Not only are you opening us to invasion by Costa Rica, you're going to put millions of veterans out of work. Why not drive around with baby-skin leather in your oil burning '61 Caddy?

  • JoshINHB||

    Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben Bernanke warned that opening the Fed’s books would diminish the central bank’s political independence and “could raise fears about future inflation...

    I think big Ben is worried that an audit will limit his ability to create inflation.

  • dave b.||

    I'd just adopt the Rockwell30-day plan.

  • ||

    Why not drive around with baby-skin leather in your oil burning '61 Caddy?

    The baby-skin upholstery is in the Rolls, that's why. The one that runs on the tears of orphans.

  • Brett L||

    At least the fuel is renewable as long as there are evil libertarians.

  • Wegie||

    Not a bad list, but a pipe dream.

  • ||

    Another way we save money is by getting out of the U.N. I'm tired of us wasting time and money on an organization that expects the United States to be the world's welfare office.

  • 35N4P2BYY||

    +1ish

    The United Nation as it exists now is a complete waste of space, any body that counts the vote of despotic, autocratic states the same as liberal democracies has zero credibility with me.

  • ||

    Move the UN to Libya. Then require all the ambassadors will have to wear Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band uniforms like Kha-Daffy. Then we'll see progress.

  • Orel Hazard||

    Method #15:

    Adopt nationwide the Obion County, TN free-market fire department response. Preserves negative rights AND saves on water!

    http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news.....52668.html

    (Note: some conflagrations may occur).

  • ||

    1. Starting with the highway trustfund and going forward without room to change: All federal programs collecting money in a "trust fund" or similar purpose-oriented manner MUST operate to achieve that purpose only (highway funds for highways).

    Bikepaths are great, but they should be paid for by the users just as the interstates are paid for by the truckers.

    2. Ag subsidies should be canned except for the Conservation Reserve Program (which encourages people who own marginal land to leave it in wildlife condition and builds habitat.)

    3. The FCC should not be canned. It should be refocused on maintaining order in the RF spectrum. There are simply too many people who would ride roughshod over the smaller users (and used to do so before the FCC) to make the RF spectrum self-governing. The indecency issues should be regulated by a body composed of people living the central time zone for whom the problem is most acute.

  • ||

    Speaking as someone from the Central time zone, you don't want any Midwest goobers deciding what is and what is not indecent.

  • Some Guy||

    Yes, we need the FCC as a spectrum cop. But no, there should be no government power over the content. If you think something is indecent, change the channel.

  • ||

    Turning the channel works. It becomes a recurring pain in the butt in the Central Time Zone due to the difference between when primetime TV starts and when little kids go to bed.

    In the East and West Coasts, kids go to bed at 8. Primetime TV starts at 8. If NCIS wants to show a decapitated Navy officer at 8:15, no problem for the Coastals. Its every Tuesday for us. So we always get to play TV control cop. We always get to deal with the hassle. Thus my comment that the Central Time Zone people should be the ones that decide indecency. If we have to live with the biggest share of the hassle, then we should be the ones that determine how much hassle we will be willing to deal with.

  • ||

    The only way to fix any country's health care is to obliterate health insurance and government healthcare all togther.

    Unfortunately, without government intervention, that idea becomes rather impossible.

    With that being said, there should be no medical assistance from the government whatsoever. Not medicaid or Medicare or SCHIP, or anything of the such.

    In addition, employers should not subsidize health insurance, just as the government should not subsidize it.

    The idea is to create an explosion of free-market small-business insurance companies rather than giant corporate based insurances.

    This would force contracts to be revised, and force doctors to compete more in the market...

    The problem is basically healthcare is too expensive. Doctors deserve to be wealthy, sure, but they should get that way by selling commodities and services that people can trade real property/cash for. $500 for a consultation, and $3,000 for a pill of valium and an IV bag is absurd for one visit.

    The cost of medicine, procedures, consultations, exams, etc, etc is insanely inflated.

    Health insurance companies and government both caused this inflation to happen.

    get rid of them both.

  • Tony||

    What do you call someone who advocates for getting rid of both government and entire industries he doesn't like?

  • ||

    Do you think that having the government and a few large corporations running healthcare is better than thousands of competitors in the private sector all offering different levels of coverage?

  • Tony||

    Yes.

  • DesigNate||

    Your answer was obvious, but at least you are consistent.

  • DesigNate||

    Don't be his porn.

  • ||

    If we really want to "Slash" government, then we need to stop relying so heavily on government.

    What needs to happen is an invention of non-government based currency. Something that is widely recognized by companies, citizens, and groups of individuals as real currency but cannot be taxed by the government.

    In essence, we're talking about a complete revolution against the government and state. A pure seperation of business and state.

    Before this can be a reality, we must first start introducing alternative forms of cash and credit not authorized, produced or controlled by the government.

  • Coeus||

    It's been tried before. The government always shuts them down when they start getting successful.
    See: Liberty Dollars

  • COINTELPRO||

    I think Wired once did an article about how e-currency is like this. So it could happen, as long as the government doesn't get it's hands on the internet.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Finally got around to reading the article. Very nice, folks. Instead of panty-wringing and pearl-clutching you actually offer real-world ideas (mostly).

    Minor nitpicking that in some cases you're shuffling from one government program to another. For example, moving nuclear weapons and waste programs to the Pentagon still means that they are still funded only this time from Peter instead of Paul.

    ... Hobbit

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Crap, take out the extra "still" as appropriate.

    Preview is your friend.

    .. BH

  • roguepatriot||

    "so that taxpayer money is spent more productively, the remaining government services perform better"

    after this, the article became TL;DR

    The existence of the state is the problem, rather than not be efficient enough. Remember, our government was once small. Make it small again, and it will grow back again.

  • ||

    Crybaby anarchist drivel.

  • roguepatriot||

    I like Libertarians and love this site. That said, calling me a crybaby is the pot texting the kettle "black".

    These days, anyone who's opposed to this monstrous federal government is a crybaby.

    So yes, I'm a crybaby and proud of it.

    :-)

  • ||

    awww, there there.

  • COINTELPRO||

    I occasionally flirt with anarchism, and it is a valid point. In fact, anarchism could possibly work with dealing with conflicting ideologies. Every political stance can create their own commune...things, which wouldn't need laws because everyone who moved there did so voluntary and would have the same attitudes towards problems. If you're a feminist who disagrees with Muslimville, you move to Femtown. Only problem is dealing with major infrastructure like roads and internet cable and defense against insurgence. But of course, this is why I only flirt with anarchism instead of taking it home with me.

  • 35N4P2BYY||

    Here is my issue with anarchy, while I do accept that it is a logical conclusion of libertarianism. I see it based on the same "if everyone plays nice it'll work" assumption that shit-canned communism.

  • COINTELPRO||

    Yeah, that's another reason why I'm not an anarchist. But it doesn't stop me from fantasizing about it when I get tired of listening to partisan douchebags on campus and in the media. If there wasn't a government, they'd all be out of a job. :3

  • 35N4P2BYY||

    I have the same gag reflex as well.. I have yet to be able to make intellectual peace with the idea of no government.. I think the concept of negative and positive rights is what I have gotten the most use out of in Libertarian philosophy.

  • roguepatriot||

    Am I a pure anarchist? Probably not. But I'm opposed to the IRS, wars, censorship, prohibition, subsidies, entitlements, and just about public anything. Anything can be privatized: roads, police, fire, schools, etc.

    I suppose you would need a commonality to protect God-given (natural) rights so that there aren't any pockets of tyranny.

    That said, nothing is perfect, not even ourselves.

  • ||

    "Anything can be privatized"

    Yes almost anything can be privatized. That doesn't mean it's the most efficeient way to do it. The economists definition of public vs private goods is usually a pretty good guideline.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    What's the difference between and libertarian and an anarchist?

    About two years if you're paying attention.

    ... Hobbit

  • COINTELPRO||

    I wish the article told you how to cut government instead of what to cut in government. If you've followed Reason for a reasonable (no pun intended) amount of time, you could have expected these items to be suggested. But unless some sort of libertarian rapture occurs, voting libertarian won't fix things. Not paying taxes or disobeying laws gets you arrested, expatriation is difficult and only prolongs the inevitable, and, as screwed up as things are today, I doubt the government will topple in my lifetime. Also, I'm pretty sure bloody coups go against the non-aggression principle.

  • Coeus||

    Also, I'm pretty sure bloody coups go against the non-aggression principle.

    Possibly, but at a certain point they can be justifiable self defense.

  • ||

    Protesting beyond the law is not a departure of democracy; it is absolutely essential to it.

  • ||

    Justifiable but futile.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    OT, but disturbing:

    http://www.news-leader.com/art.....pringfield

    Biden cannot be photographed during his visit to this Missouri city. It's like he won't even be here.

  • ||

    We can all do our part. Vow to cheat at least 10% on our state and federal tax returns this year. And every year thereafter. Makes little difference unless everyone does it, but it makes you feel better so it'd appeal to the libs and rinos. I'm up to about 20% now and feel invigerated. I get hard a lot more often too.
    Oh, and barter whenever, wherever you can.

  • ||

    I'm trying to find some reason to disagree with any of the suggested cuts but I just can't find one. Spot on once again, Reason Staff.

    I only weep because I know precisely none of them will be done in the next 2-6 years (and most likely beyond that)

  • Sharon Bach||

    Amen to scrapping Medicaid! My daughter was uninsurable due to asthma. She went from ER to ER and despite a "pcp" who could not order tests for her or see her in the hospital because of her lack of insurance, she got sicker and sicker. Finally her liver failed. Cedars social workers got her approved for SSI (only way to get MediCal in CA). When her liver again failed, the hospital to which she was taken "stabilized" her but did not admit her BECAUSE she was a MediCal patient!!! In other words, had she still been uninsured, they would have admitted her and she would be alive today! Instead they transferred her to an inferior hospital that ignored her condition until she went into a coma. After 2 days, they FINALLY transferred her to UCLA where she underwent an emergency liver transplant. Unfortunately the hepatic encephalopathy had caused too much pressure on her brain stem by the time she reached UCLA and hence after a week of watching and waiting, was declared brain dead. The staff seemed very eager to get their hands on her "other" organs. I agreed because Belinda was the kind of person who would want to share the gift of life with others but also felt pressured because it meant they would leave her on the ventilator for one more day so we could say our goodbyes instead of disconnecting her within the hour! Belinda Bach 1979-2007, sadly missed by family and friends. "Stand still in the moment - paint the canvas of your mind" Belinda Bach "Time"

  • Sharon Bach||

  • ||

    It is my understanding that there is a private audit of the Fed every year which is reviewed by the US Auditor General and a report is then presented to Congress. Am I incorrect on this point?
    Sincerely,
    TR Smith
    Star Valley, Wyoming

  • ken||

    For stories on what international Libertarians are doing, page down http://www.Libertarian-International.org

  • ||

    The occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan has been over for more than 5 years. We continue to support the allied Iraqi and Afghan governments. To leave our allies to fight our common enemies alone would be shameful, and should be avoided.

  • ||

    I suppose we could start the cutting with with the unconstitutional departments of Education, Agriculture, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, and Labor. Then we could move on to the real tough questions.

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