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Arab-American Muslim Woman's Discrimination Claim Can Go Forward Over Cancellation of Law Firm Job Offer for Statements Related to October 7 Actions
From Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman (N.D. Ill.) today in Chehade v. Foley & Lardner, LLP:
[O]n October 7, 2023, … [Jinan Chehade, a Muslim woman of Arab descent,] shared this message on social media:
"As you see Palestine in the news, keep two things in mind:
- Colonization is inherently violent. Occupation is violent. Israel's existence was brought about by violence. Never equate the violence of the oppressed with that of the oppressor. The colonized with the colonizer.
- If you support Palestine understand that necessitates supporting our right to defend ourselves and liberate our homeland by any means necessary. The colonizing power determined what was necessary when they colonized us by force and continue to genocide Palestine. You cannot claim to stand with Palestine if you prefer us to be slaughtered without fighting back. Freedom has only ever been achieved through resistance.
#FreePalestine #WithinOurLifetime"
Chehade made further remarks at a public meeting of the Chicago City Council on October 11, 2023. At the City Council meeting, Chehade opposed a resolution condemning the Hamas attack, which she explained was "completely one-sided and made no mention of Palestinians." She said:
"The Western Zionist controlled media machine would have you believe that this was an unprovoked attack. However, this is the natural response to 75 years of occupation, such that this resistance is a legal right for the Palestinian people according to international law… I'm sorry the people of Gaza did not sit quietly."
Chehade was scheduled to start her position at Foley on October 23, 2023. The week before, on October 16, a Legal Recruiting Assistant at Foley named Ayesha Karim searched for Chehade online. She claimed that she needed to find a photo of Chehade for Foley's "2023 New Associate Directory." Karim came across Chehade's statements and brought them to the attention of Amy Moynihan, Foley's Director of Legal Recruiting. Later that day, Moynihan wrote to a group including Foley's Chairman and CEO, Daljit Doogal; former Managing Partner, Stanley Jaspan; Chair of Foley's National Recruiting Committee, Robert Scher; and Chief Talent Officer, Jennifer Patton.
Moynihan told them that Chehade, an incoming associate, "shared content on her public Instagram account that demonstrates her support and advocacy for the Palestinian stance during the Israel-Palestine conflict." Moynihan, Patton, and Scher said they did not feel it was "appropriate" to take any action against Chehade. Doogal and Jaspan responded that "more information would be good" and that it would be "helpful to know the nature of her statements." Jaspan clarified that a "pro-Palestinian stance itself [was] not a problem in [his] mind" as to Chehade's employment at Foley….
Over the following days, Foley continued its inquiry into Chehade's activism. Foley investigated Chehade's roles in SJP and LSJP, which she included on the updated resume she sent to Foley but not on her conflict disclosure form. Moynihan circulated Chehade's statements to Foley leadership via e-mail, noting that Chehade "[did] not come out and say that she supports the attacks on Israel." Managing Partner Jaspan further responded to the full group of Foley leaders with comments such as "'75 years of occupation' and 'liberate our homeland' literally means (and is intended to mean) wiping out in its entirety the State of Israel and throwing out (or killing all) the Jews who are there" (emphasis in original) and that "[Chehade] is clearly defending the actions of Hamas." He separately sent Moynihan an op-ed titled "Don't Hire My Anti-Semitic Law Students."
Moynihan personally described that Chehade is "a vocal and active supporter of the Palestinian movement," that she "seems to encourage and advocate for others to resist and not through peaceful means," and that she "does not appear to be sympathetic to the loss of life in Israel." Despite Moynihan's strong statement, Eileen Ridley, Chief Diversity & Inclusion Partner, stated her preference was "to let [Chehade] start and have a conversation with her." Foley's Chief of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, Alexis Robertson, was also in favor of Chehade starting work as planned. Patton's notes from speaking with Robertson stated: "we have tolerated other harmful rhetoric in the past."
Foley changed course on October 21. That morning, Jaspan, Doogal, Phil Phillips (Foley's inside employment counsel), Lisa Noller (Foley's Litigation Department Chair), and Frank Pasquesi (Managing Partner of Foley's Chicago office) met and decided that Noller and Pasquesi would meet Chehade at Foley's office on October 22, the day before her start date. Patton prepared "Draft Talking Points" for Noller to use during the meeting with Chehade, writing that the goal was to "understand and seek clarification if [Chehade] in fact condone[d] or [was] endorsing Hamas's attack on Israel and the specific acts against the Israeli people."
At the October 22 meeting, Noller asked Chehade about her statements, her beliefs around Palestine, and her prior involvement in SJP. The conversation strayed further when Noller and Pasquesi asked Chehade to discuss her father and his employment at the Mosque Foundation in Bridgeview. Noller and Pasquesi then asked Chehade directly whether she condemned Hamas's attack.
Chehade told Noller and Pasquesi that when she referenced "the natural response to 75 years of occupation" and said that "resistance is a legal right for the Palestinian people according to international law," she "was referring to the legitimacy of Palestinians to resist occupation." Noller's notes from the meeting read: "Attacks on civilians: Do not condone terrorism," and "Do not condone Hamas." After their conversation with Chehade, Noller and Pasquesi met with Doogal, Jaspan, Patton, Ridley, and Phillips to recap. Patton wrote in her notes from the "debrief" meeting: "cordial, polite … doesn't condone terrorism … condemns Hamas terrorist activity … doesn't see how those words are offensive." Nevertheless, Noller stated that she left with the impression that Chehade "condoned" the violence of Hamas. Pasquesi felt Chehade was "citing to … authority" for "why the Hamas attacks were justified or acceptable."
Doogal claimed to have made the ultimate decision to rescind Chehade's employment offer. He expressed concerns about her "judgment." Based on her statements and what Noller and Pasquesi shared, Doogal believed that "[Chehade] condoned the actions of Hamas on October 7th." Noller and Pasquesi called Chehade the evening before her start date to tell her that Foley was rescinding its employment offer. Foley's internal statement announcing the decision said that Chehade's statements were "misaligned with [Foley's] core values" and that Foley "arrived at this decision in consultation with members of firm leadership, our Chief Diversity Equity and Inclusion Partner, and members of the firm of both Jewish and Muslim faith."
Foley was internally divided as to this outcome. Days later in a meeting with Jaspan, Robertson expressed disappointment in her lack of involvement as Foley's Chief of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. She said Jaspan explained why he "made the decision about rescinding [Chehade's] offer," and that he likened Chehade's remarks to saying something "anti-Black" or "inappropriate about, for example … a lynching." Many Arab American associates at Foley became fearful after the decision, in part because they felt it was "unsafe for them to express their views on the conflict within the firm." Doogal reiterated that Chehade's offer was revoked for supporting "the killing of innocent lives."
In the weeks following the October 7 attacks, attorneys already working at Foley made statements on social media about the attacks. Max Chester, a Foley partner, shared the statement: "Individuals who committed these atrocities and those who enabled them must be liquidated as enemies of the humankind. And the evil vile ideology they spew must be eradicated." Another partner, Dovi Alderstein, made a post stating:
"Let me say this in the clearest possible terms. If you're concerned with Israel's response, if you're focused on the people of Gaza right now, you're either ignorant or intentionally hypocritical…. You're worried about the electricity and water in Gaza? You can provide it. Don't want to? Then keep your mouth shut. They have nowhere to go those poor Gazans? Why don't you go look at a map? They have a border with Egypt. Let them take them in if they care so much. They don't want them? Not my problem And once and for all, we need to unequivocally reject the false narrative of "They're not all Hamas supporters so Israel has no right to attack Gaza.["] The Palestinian people elected Hamas. Make up your mind. If they're a people who you believe deserve a state then it's time you held them accountable as a people In every war in the history of the world, innocent people die. That fact, as sad as it might be, has zero relevance to whether the war is justified or not."
Foley "formed no opinion" on whether the posts were "consistent with Foley's core values." Yet Noller did not like the use of ad hominem nor use of the word "liquidated," and did not believe it consistent with Foley's core values to advocate for sending civilians to Gaza during the war. Ridley said Adlerstein's post "could potentially" implicate Foley's core values, but could not say that it violated Foley's core values for Israel to "turn[] off water and electricity to the area, the entire area" of Gaza. Neither Chester nor Adlerstein were reprimanded or disciplined for the posts, but the posts were removed. Another Foley associate, "MJ," posted pro-Palestinian social media posts under the username "catholiclawschoolgirl." Foley also did not take adverse action against MJ and instead counseled her on Foley's social media policy, which applied to all attorneys and staff at Foley….
Chehade sued, claiming that she was discriminated against because of her religion and ethnicity, and the court held there was enough dispute on the material facts that the claim needed to go to a jury:
The Court must note at the outset that any clear articulation of Foley's "core values" and social media policies is absent in the record. Chehade does not dispute that she made the statements attributed to her, but there is a conspicuous lack of any objective standards of conduct by which she was evaluated.
Witnesses admitted that posts from other Foley attorneys calling for the collective punishment of Palestinians were not consistent with its "core values." Those attorneys were not formally admonished, let alone terminated. They were afforded the opportunity to take down their posts. There is no evidence that Foley ever asked Chehade to do the same, despite statements from Ridley that she would not object to "letting [Chehade] go" if she "wo[uld]n't take down her posts."
If Foley's firmwide "core values" did not vary between personnel, there is apparent disparate treatment of those statements. If non-Arab, non-Muslim attorneys were not evaluated against the same standards as Chehade for the same conduct, such that she was held to some separate, undefined standard, that could lead a juror to conclude that there was discrimination….
To further illustrate a disparity, Chehade points to social media posts from non-Muslim, non-Arab Foley lawyers about the October 7 attacks as evidence that others outside of her protected classes received better treatment. To support an inference of discrimination, comparators need not be identically positioned, but must be "'directly comparable' to a plaintiff 'in all material respects.'"
While a partner and a first-year associate certainly differ in their experience and job duties, it is undisputed that Foley's social media policy applied to all attorneys at Foley. And while the adverse employment action occurred before Chehade began as a full-time associate, she was not starting on a blank slate. Foley did not decline to hire her. They offered her a job after her performance as a summer associate, and she accepted. After that, she was held to the standards of a Foley attorney, as clear from the basis Foley gave for its revocation.
Moreover, the undisputed facts show that "MJ" also made pro-Palestine social media posts but was merely counseled on Foley's social media policy. It is a reasonable inference from MJ's username, "catholiclawschoolgirl," that she is not Muslim, and therefore is outside of at least one of Chehade's protected classes. While the decisionmaking process is less developed in the record with respect to MJ, a disparate outcome (coupled with a lack of explanation as to why MJ was not disciplined) could support an inference of discrimination against Chehade. It is the role of a jury to consider the nature of MJ's social media posts as well as any evidence of "differentiating or mitigating circumstances as would distinguish … [Foley's] treatment" of MJ, and to make the ultimate determination.
Finally, Chehade asserts there is evidence showing that the search of her social media itself was disparate treatment. Ayesha Karim, the Legal Recruiting Assistant who discovered Chehade's statements about the October 7 attacks, claimed that she searched Chehade online because Chehade had yet to submit a photo and biography for Foley's incoming associate directory. Chehade testified that she had by that time uploaded her photo (in which she wore a hijab) and biography (in which she states she is from "Little Palestine"). Her claim is that it was her apparent race and religion that prompted Karim to search her social media.
On the one hand, a jury could disbelieve Foley's justification based on evidence that Chehade had already uploaded her photo and biography (and, in any event, Foley already had a photo of her from the prior summer) and searching associates' social media was highly unusual. A jury could also conclude that Karim searched Chehade's social media after learning of Chehade's background when considering real-life context: Chehade submitted her biography describing her upbringing in "Little Palestine" just days after the October 7 attacks, when the social media activity of law firm associates was heavily scrutinized. On the other hand, a jury could accept Foley's account that Karim had simply not seen Chehade's submission and searched Chehade only to find a photo for its directory. Deciding which scenario is likelier is the quintessential role of the trier of fact….
Chehade next asserts that Foley's reason for rescinding her offer is pretextual. Pretext is a "dishonest explanation, a lie rather than an oddity or an error." … Foley does not aver that Chehade's job performance was poor, but that she "showed poor judgment" based on "her public statements and her reaction when asked about them." Chehade affirmatively told Noller and Pasquesi that she did not condone violence and that she condemned terrorism. Noller and Pasquesi still felt she condoned the attacks and that she attempted to justify them. In Noller's view, Chehade did not "distance herself or apologize or express any empathy from the October 7 attacks."
A trier of fact must adjudge the sincerity of the opinion that Chehade condoned terrorism, and whether the expectation that Chehade "distance herself or apologize or express any empathy" was legitimate, or unfairly imposed given anti-Muslim, anti-Arab stereotypes. A reasonable juror could find an "inconsistency" or "contradiction" in Foley's reasoning.
Further, even if Noller and Pasquesi did not themselves raise the topic of Chehade's father (a point of dispute), they pursued the line of questioning about Chehade's background rather than redirecting the conversation back to her conduct. Evidence about interview questions asked in the course of making an employment decision "does not require, but certainly permits, an inference that the decision-makers were indulging … stereotypes." Questions about Chehade's father and his work fall well outside the four corners of her statements. A jury may find that such questions reflect a focus on Chehade's race and religion. These issues cannot be resolved at summary judgment; a trier of fact must decide which interpretation of the record is correct.
The record is indecisive as to who made the ultimate decision to revoke Chehade's employment offer—Doogal or Jaspan. There is an issue either way as to whether their justifications were pretextual. Again, there is a dispute as to whether Foley believed Chehade condoned violence based on her answers. A jury must also evaluate whether Jaspan in fact advocated behind-the-scenes to revoke her employment offer based on his involvement in the decisionmaking process and his comment about why he "made the decision about rescinding [Chehade's] offer." If a jury interpreted Jaspan's statement that Chehade supported the "killing" and "throwing out" of all Jewish people in Israel reflects stereotypes about Muslims and Arab Americans being inherently violent, that evidence could also support an inference of discriminatory intent.
Finally, "'behavior toward or comments directed at other employees in the protected group'" is "circumstantial evidence that can support an inference of discrimination." The widespread fear felt by Arab American associates after the October 7 attacks and Foley's revoking Chehade's offer, along with comments that all Palestinians must be "held accountable" and reflecting stereotypes about Muslims or Arabs being violent, could support a finding that the environment at Foley was inhospitable. And a jury could infer based on that determination that such stereotypes impermissibly influenced Foley's decision….
If the factual disputes described in this opinion are resolved in favor of Chehade, a jury could reasonably conclude that Chehade's membership in a protected class caused her employment offer to be rescinded…. [W]here there is circumstantial evidence of discrimination, the legitimacy of the employer's explanation is put to the test. That is a task properly reserved for a jury, not the Court. For that reason, summary judgment is inappropriate ….
Paul K. Vickrey, Patrick F. Solon, and Dylan M. Brown (Vitale, Vickrey, Niro, Solon & Gasey) and Rima Kapitan (Kapitan Gomaa Law, P.C) represent plaintiff.
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The employment offer was extended to her when her ethnicity and religion were known. It was rescinded after comments she made. Why is it reasonable to believe her job offer was rescinded due to ethnicity and religion? Dumb decision.
The decision made here is that a jury will get to weigh that argument.
As they should, and any fair-minded jury should then tell her to GTFO.
Hear, hear!
Columbia admitted Jewish students but they're clearly guilty of anti-Semitism, to the point that no formal adjudication is even needed (says the Conspiracy).
Columbia admitting Jewish students would be one data point. How Columbia then treated Jewish students while they were attending the university is a different data point. Both relevant, of course. No rational VC poster is claiming that we should accept at face value one side's arguments. (Yes, I agree; the VC is full of non-rational posters as well, and they are not exactly filled with nuance.)
"VC is full of non-rational posters as well, and they are not exactly filled with nuance."
How true, sm811.
While that is a factor in the employer's favor, it is not dispositive. Consider the sex-stereotyping case, Price Waterhouse v. Hopkins. Obviously they knew she was a woman all along (please no snarky comments about trans stuff). But they allegedly held her to a standard as a woman that was different than the standard to which they held men. That's discrimination, even if they were willing to hire/promote other women.
Based on the quotes above, Chehade sounds like someone with whom I could have a reasonable conversation even though I disagree with several of her claims about Palestine. Refusing to hire her solely based on her past political opinions seems like a poor business choice.
That said, I agree with Kleppe above that this likely cannot be stretched to discrimination on the basis of ethnicity/religion. But I can see the judge's argument that there's (just barely) enough to get past motion-to-dismiss and to a jury to evaluate the disparate treatment claim.
They weren't "past" political opinions at the time, everything being litigated happened within a month. She made the noted comments immediately after and then a few days after, and the meeting where she was scrutinized was only two weeks later.
Ah, my mistake on that point. I misread the dates above. Thank you for the correction.
Why should any employer be compelled to have an employee condone the atrocities of October 7?
The reality is that many commentators condone the atrocities of O7.'
They don't like Jews. At all.
Not like would be tolerable. Outright Jew hatred is not.
Reliable Dem voters need jobs.
Chehade's remarks are a straightforward endorsement of the direct killing of innocent people -- men, women, and children -- not to speak of their brutalization and kidnapping. Any decent individual or group would dissociate from her.
I am not impressed by the quality of the legal discussion.
One international legal regime (the international ban on slavery) does not distinguish civilian and combatant, and allows either to be killed without punishment and without penalty.
Palestinians in the oPT of stolen Palestine including Gaza, which was generously considered a native reservation or bantustan within Zionist-controlled stolen Palestine, lived in a state of helotry or enslavement because the Zionist regime denies Palestinians of the oPT full legal personhood in a legal status that fulfills the legal criteria of enslavement in international law.
October 7 was a slave rebellion. When a slave kills a slaver (in this case, a Zionist colonial settler invader), the slave commits no crime because the slaver is considered an imminent threat to the slave and to fellow slaves.
An attorney should make more sophisticated legal argument than any attorney seems to have made according to the description, which the post provides.
Does it even matter any longer that Israel was not occupying the Gaza strip?
There was a poster in the sixties that said "Reality is a crutch".
I think we are there again.
Zionists all read from the same propaganda that tells a Zionist propagandist falsely to assert that Gaza is not occupied.
According to international law, occupation is a matter of control. The Zionist state has ultimate control of Gaza entrance and exit. Only the Egypt-Gaza border is at issue.
Here is a clear timeline since IDF redeployment in 2005.
2005 – Israeli disengagement and transfer of control
Israel completed its disengagement from the Gaza Strip in September 2005, withdrawing its military and settlements.
Under the 2005 Agreement on Movement and Access (AMA), the Palestinian Authority, which is under occupation, assumed administrative responsibility for the Gaza side of the Rafah crossing while Egypt, which is constrained to obey Israeli authority by agreements with Israel and with the USA, controlled its side and the EU Border Assistance Mission monitored operations. Under this arrangement, Palestinians with proper IDs could cross, subject to coordination obligations with Israel under specified procedures.
2005–2007 – Joint/PA control with EU monitoring
From its reopening in late 2005 until June 2007, the crossing functioned with Palestinian Authority management on the Gaza side and European Union monitors supervising.
2007 onward – Hamas control of Gaza, occasional closures
After internal conflict and Hamas’s takeover of Gaza in 2007, Egypt often closed the crossing and the EU monitors withdrew. However, the Gaza side was still not directly run by the Israeli military; rather, Hamas authorities de facto/i> governed Gaza and the crossing operated intermittently under Egyptian-PA arrangements, with Israel exercising security oversight per earlier agreements.
Israel is in complete control of all Gaza borders. Gaza like the West Bank and like E. Jerusalem is under Israeli occupation according to international law.
Both Egypt and Israel keep Gazans out because they're so aggressive (and stupid). Nobody else wants them either. It takes truly upside down international law to say that because countries protect themselves from Gazan aggression, that they're somehow occupying Gaza.
Under international law, the only agreed on border was at the termination of the British Mandate. That border defines Eretz Israel and includes Gaza, Judea, Samaria, and the Jordan River Valley.
The so-called occupation stems from the Arab nations refusing to accept the UN partition, declaring war on the nascent Israeli state and LOSING (that was the Nakba). The the same countries have created perpetual refugee status for Arabs in the region by actively blocking migration into their countries.
Prof. Bernstein has pointed out repeatedly that the fetishization of "international law" on the left extends to the point where people just make shit up and say, "International law says X" without any basis for the claims. Occupation is a matter of occupation. A blockade is not an occupation.
What is the over/under that if she is hired she never gets a promotion.
Whoa, this is reverse Bernsteinism. Since statements calling for the death of Palestinians don't get punished, statements calling for the death of Israelis can't be punished either, since all such statements are constitutive of ethnic identity and therefore protected by anti-discrimination law. What a mess! Probably best to have a bright line for the ordinary animals: Israel good, Palestine bad, so everyone understands.
Let the jury decide. The Seventh Amendment rules!
As Alexis Robertson, Foley's Chief of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion argued in justification of hiring Chahade: "we have tolerated other harmful rhetoric in the past."
That's what I like about DEI advocates...they're tolerant of harmful rhetoric. /sarc
Seriously, I lean toward tolerance of rhetoric including offensive rhetoric. When it comes to speech, it takes a lot more than the facts of this case to justify use of the term "harmful."
But OMG, how many people's livelihoods did I see get trashed by DEI advocates seeking punishment (equity?) for "harmful speech?" Many.
But they typically limited their attacks to certain types of people. As in this case, they were never simply motivated by what was said, but by who said it, and whether or not that person was in a class of people whom they considered to be disadvantaged or "privileged" (their term, not mine).
DEI adherents continue to advocate for and against their preferred winners and losers. I would have joined Robertson in seeking tolerance. Fortunately, in this case, it was a "brown person" under consideration. DEI tried to do the rescue, as its inclination in cases "like" this.
I think what you meant to type was, 'Good for the DEI rep in this case. She argued for an emphatic support of free speech rights...even when many of the influential people in her firm were arguing for the opposite.'
Maybe you whining about DEI should be aimed at examples where the DEI person was not doing exactly what you think was actually noble and proper?
"we have tolerated other harmful rhetoric in the past."
That little snippet suggests Robertson thought that this was "harmful rhetoric," and that the reason to let it go was because they've let other people get away with that.
That doesn't look to me like an endorsement of free speech. It looks like an endorsement of allowing bad behavior, solely on the basis of them having previously allowed bad behavior.
You said, "She argued for an emphatic support of free speech rights." Did I miss the evidence of that? What is yours?
DEI functionaries typically, dogmatically, by design, stand up for the "Black" guy. (I use that term euphemistically.) This case looks quite like that kind of business as usual.
My gripe is that DEI establishments have not only been strong proponents of the notion of "harmful speech," but have typically encouraged counter-measures to speech they find objectionable. ("Let's sit down with Bwaaah and let him know that what he said was hurtful to some people. We'll put a note in his file indicating that we followed up with him about this.") They chill expression, and do so proudly. In my view, they tend to be quite unfriendly to free speech.
Maybe you've seen energetically pro-unfettered-expression people in DEI jobs? I haven't seen a single one. I'd be interested in hearing of examples of that.
Last question first. I have seen tons of examples. But I think you will not be satisfied with them, because they are noteworthy "in reverse."
Example. Someone comes to HR with a complaint about what a co-worker has said. Allegedly anti-gay, or anti-Catholic, or anti-black, et al. The DEI person looks at the situation and says, "No case here. The speaker's free speech rights "win" in this matter because what was said didn't create a hostile workplace environment." So, the DEI rep *did* strongly advocate for free speech...by determining that nothing legally untoward had happened, and that the matter was resolved.
Sometimes people advocate for something by speaking forcefully in favor of that thing. But other times people advocate for something by listening to the side opposing that thing, and then deciding to do nothing about the complaint. By granting summary judgment against the complainer, so to speak. 🙂
So you would conclude that DEI initiatives have been, overall, helpful in fostering free expression?
That's some guilt by association! Other (unspecified) DEI officials did not advocate for free speech, therefore this DEI official's advocacy of free speech is tainted and doesn't count.
Jesus, you're a knot of resentment against a magic acronym.
What even is the 'DEI establishment?' That's like saying the 'Contracting establishment.' It's a discipline, not a cabal.
Though it does seem like you've had some very personal issues, and blame DEI generally.
Kind of an obvious defense mechanism going on there.
LOL. I'm BLIND, Sarc. BLIND. A blithering idiot who's seen NOTHING.
And the world is filled with dumbasses like me, just making shit up.
And you, your vision is pure. You see the REAL world, and stupid me conjures up the OPPOSITE. Because I'm some sick stupid moron who can't understand what he's seeing...a person who hates good people and especially wants disadvantaged people to be left behind...a person who seeks to undermine the vision of MLK! (Your beautiful message, Sarc. Your beautiful, thoughtful message.)
And that is the essence your forever argument.
"DEI establishment." That's yours, buddy. All yours. I said "DEI establishments" (plural), such as DEI committees, DEI affinity groups, DEI executives, DEI colloquia...all the ways in which DEI initiatives have been established and formalized.
But I just make this shit up. Because I hate the people DEI tries to help. Yeah, that's it. I'm crying, angry, resentful moron.
It's not that you don't see, it's the things you think you see that you haven't seen.
I get things wrong too - we all do.
That doesn't mean I can't point out when you're making an unjustified generalization about something you don't seem to know anything about other than what you've decided is true.
You correction is making a distinction without a difference. You're mad about DEI in general, based on an experience it seems you had with some specific DEI office.
Take that chip off your shoulder; it seems to keep you mad all the time and that doesn't seem like it's any fun.
I think that the question of the existence of the state of Israel is a matter of foreign policy and political opinion outside of civil rights law and its classifications. Therefore, just as Jewish students cannot claim civil rights violations for being subjected to protests denouncing Israel’s existence, the denouncers cannot complain if they are not hired as a result of their denunciations. For American Civil Rights law not to be itself discriminatory, what’s sauce for the goose has to be sauce for the gander. Because federal civil rights law does not prohibit discrimination on the basis of political opinion on matters of foreign policy, opinions about Israel as a political state are subjects outside the scope of Civil Rights law. Denouncing Israel does not violate Civil Rights law. But denouncing denoucing Israel does not violate Civil Rights law either.
This case should have been dismissed.
The defendants should appeal.
One cannot appeal the denial of a motion to dismiss in federal court.
Also, you misunderstand the legal theory.
Sending it to a jury is the right call. You have a factor (proximity in time) that, as a matter of law, supports the claim. A jury can look past the test factors and see that her claim is spurious. Judge stuck to their lane, good for the judge.
It's an unfortunate reality that taxpayers must spend money to adjudicate these claims, but we don't use juries out of a desire for efficiency. It's *very* unfortunate when businesses have to defend or settle, because it encourages the behavior. Still it's less unjust than not weighing close timing heavily and I suspect less unjust than deciding the weight case by case. Juries suck, but they're pretty good at what they do.
Juries determine matters of fact.
What factual disputes exist in this case?
Whether the difference in treatment she claims she has identified — which depends on whether the comparators were similarly situated to her — was because of her ethnicity.
While I agree with some of the substance of her argument - that Israel's existence was brought about through violence - I think it's pretty poor form to be bringing that up in the immediate aftermath of a massacre of a thousand people. I'd be sceptical of someone who publicly defends the starvation of Gazans too!
But I don't know that anyone should necessarily lose their job over this sort of thing, though I know that is seperate from whether they're legally allowed to be fired for it.
"Israel's existence was brought about through violence"
If she means the stupid Arab nations going to war against Israel, urging resident Arabs to move out of their intended war zone, and then losing to the IDF, then, yes not exists because of violence started by her people.