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William Barr Discovers the Economics of Tort Law (and Misrepresents the Law Governing Interstate Pollution)
Another reply to the former attorney general on climate litigation that may end up in the Supreme Court.
Last week, former Attorney General William P. Barr wrote an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal purporting to expose a nefarious effort to impose a carbon tax through tort litigation. His op-ed is part of a broad effort to convince the Supreme Court to grant certiorari in Suncor v. County Commissioners of Boulder County, a tort suit filed against fossil fuel companies seeking compensation for the costs of adapting to climate change.
Today, the WSJ published my letter to the editor replying to Barr's op-ed, in which I noted there is nothing scandalous in what Barr reports, and that his underlying legal claims are without merit. As readers may recall, I have sparred with Barr on this subject before (see here and here).
In his op-ed, Barr reports that an attorney who has supported and assisted the filing of state-law-based tort claims by state and local governments against fossil fuel companies noted on a Federalist Society teleforum that, if these suits are successful, they would impose a de facto carbon tax. Barr treats this a scandalous confession. It is nothing of the kind. It is, rather, what everyone understands about the nature of tort suits.
When torts suits against firms that manufacture or distribute a product are successful, the liable firms inevitably seek to pass those costs on to consumers in the form of higher prices. Supporters of tort reform assail this "tort tax" as a burden on consumers and entrepreneurs. Others view it as means of internalizing externalities and ensuring that consumers pay for the full costs of what they consume. Anyone who is surprised that this dynamic would recur in the context of climate litigation is simply not well-versed in the economics of tort law.
In his op-ed, Barr does not seek to argue that it would be inappropriate to hold fossil fuel companies responsible for the costs of climate change to local communities--costs that include the affects on infrastructure and climate adaptation efforts. Instead he tries to argue that such suits are preempted by federal law, and in the process makes a legal error.
Barr writes:
Can states regulate emissions that take place outside their borders?
More than a century of Supreme Court precedent indicates that the answer must be no. Disputes involving pollution that crosses state or international borders are the exclusive domain of federal law.
Barr is simply wrong on this point, and he should know it as I have corrected him on this point before. Under current law, suits seeking redress for harms caused by interstate pollution can be filed under state law; they are not "the exclusive domain of federal law."
As I have explained at length, the Supreme Court has held that federal common law suits over interstate pollution are displaced by federal pollution control statutes. This is because federal common law is disfavored and is deemed to be displaced once Congress enacts a relevant statute. Displacement is different from preemption. And the Supreme Court has also held, most explicitly in International Paper v. Ouellette that state law suits over interstate pollution are not preempted and may proceed, provided that courts apply the law of the upwind or upstream state.
In the case of climate change, there is nothing in the Clean Air Act that preempts state regulation or or litigation over greenhouse gases and the potential harms of climate change. Indeed, there is nothing in the CAA that was enacted with an eye toward preventing climate change at all. And with regard to the types of air pollutants upon which the CAA was focused--ozone precursors, particulates, etc.--the CAA contains a broad savings clause and does little little to preempt state regulation or litigation, save for select provisions focused on the regulation of certain products sold in interstate markets (such as automobiles). Congress could preempt such suits if it wanted to, but it has never done so.
There are serious arguments that the various climate suits should fail on traditional tort law grounds, perhaps because the chain of causation is too attenuated or too difficult to prove, or that there are constitutional limits on the scope of conduct that can be subject to liability in state courts consistent with Due Process and the Dormant Commerce Clause. And there may well be an argument that the Supreme Court should intervene should a state court award universal relief to a local jurisdiction for the accumulated effects of global greenhouse gas emissions that exceeds such limits. But these are not the claims that Barr is making. Rather he is asserting that federal law precludes state courts from even hearing these claims, and he is misstating the law in the process.
For a deeper dive into the debate over this question, I recommend this panel from last year, "A Debate on The Right — Climate Lawsuits and Federalism: What Is the Role of State Tort Law?", in which I debated several thoughtful commentators on this subject.
For more on the subject, here are my prior posts on climate-related tort litigation:
- Why State Common Law Nuisance Claims Against Fossil Fuel Companies Are Not Preempted, Oct. 27, 2021;
- Third Circuit Rejects Oil Company Efforts to Remove Climate Claims to Federal Court, Aug. 17, 2022;
- Oil Companies Fail to Convince the Eighth Circuit Climate Cases Should Be Removed to Federal Court (Updated), Mar. 25, 2023;
- Is Climate Change Going Back to the Supreme Court? (Minnesota Edition) [UPDATED], Dec. 11, 2023;
- D.C. Circuit Rejects Oil Company Attempt to Remove District's Climate Suit to Federal Court, Dec. 19, 2023;
- William Barr Responds on American Petroleum Institute v. Minnesota, Dec. 26, 2023;
- Supreme Court Takes a Pass on Minnesota Climate Change Case, Jan. 8, 2024;
- Are State Law Climate Change Tort Suits Preempted by Federal Law?, May 3, 2024;
- Supreme Court Denies Certiorari in Climate Tort Suits, Jan. 13, 2025;
- Supreme Court Rejects Red State Attempt to Sue Blue States Over Climate Suits, Mar. 10, 2025.
And here (again) is my longer paper on the subject.
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It's perfectly reasonable for democracy to decide how much pollution is acceptable as a trade off for economic progress.
For that matter, after assigning a value to the damage, let's deduct the economic benefits to The People, The States, and, golly, the poor kiddies!
Suing lawyers: Wait, we won. Why do we owe them seventy four trillion dollars?
The hand formula— which is what you are (poorly) trying to articulate— is taught in like the second week of law school.
Still waiting for someone to hold politicians financially responsible for excess deaths due to burdens on the economy, slowing technological progress. As good as the free west is, compared to dictatorships and corruption-laden democracies, we're idiots to think we're near optimal.
Do they get credit for lives saved by legislation?
While I don’t disagree with Professor Adler’s legal analysis, I nonetheless think that courts should defer to legislatures on matters that have a massive effect on economy and society.
Consider water. Water is dangerous. People reguarly drown in it. Professor Adler’s argument that it is legally a suitable candidate for tort law may well be true. But I think courts should hesitate to handle an industry-wide suit seeking to hold water utilities and bottlers as an industry liable for it. The costs, benefits, and risks involved are too complex to render a court decision applying a simple legal maxim likely to be a good decision for society.
"In his op-ed, Barr does not seek to argue that it would be inappropriate to hold fossil fuel companies responsible for the costs of climate change to local communities"
Really? Because he certainly should. Even (Dubiously!) assuming that use of fossil fuels imposes net costs on those communities, the fossil fuel companies aren't the ones using the fuel.
The cigarette companies weren’t the ones smoking the cigs, and the PFAS companies weren’t the ones dumping into the water…. Manufacturers are found liable for the consequence of their products all the time.
But it isn't disputed anymore that cigarettes were instruments of death.
It can't seriously be disputed that fossil fuels are givers of life. Imagine the levels of crop production without fossil fuels to power agricultural equipment and make fertilizer. Not to mention the use of plastics to keep our food fresh and clean which is an oil byproduct, or the fact that almost all transportation is dependent on fossil fuels.
Here's the a graph showing the clear correlation between energy consumption and longevity:
https://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2013/02/graph-of-day-life-expectancy-vs-energy.html
Is it just coincidence longevity has doubled since 1860 while CO2 ppm has gone from 280 to 420?
Almost all the consequences of climate change are positive too, from fewer deaths from cold, to higher crop yields from CO2 fertilization, and the massive greening of the earth that can be easily measured from space.
I don't think the life-sustaining benefits of fossil fuels would be admissible in a tort suit.
Which is why tort litigation is a very poor mechanism for determining policy in this area. Without fossil fuels, we would have to go back tot he Dark Ages.
Dark ages, to a large extent that is correct - see my comment below on the shift from subsistence living to a modern society as a result of the use of energy and machinery.
Kaz makes a very good point on the increase in life expectancy.
The development and use of energy (fossil fuels) and machinery has provided the means that has allowed the human race to shift from subsistence existence into a modern society.
Around 1800, it took approximately 20 minutes of human labor to plant, sow harvest etc sufficient wheat to make one loaf of bread. By 1900, it was down to approximately 10 minutes of human labor to make one loaf of bread. Today, it is around 2 seconds.
Energy has provided the resources to allow the human race to have sufficient time to make other improvements in our lives, instead of spending most all waking hours on subsistence living.
Is it just coincidence longevity has doubled since 1860 while CO2 ppm has gone from 280 to 420?
Yes. It is just coincidence.
No, it isn't. While there is not a causative relation, there is a correlation. Fossil fuels powered the Industrial Revolution, and then the great leap in technology of the 20th century. That includes agriculture, medicine, and transportation, among others. All of which contributed greatly to longevity.
As I said above, get rid of fossil fuels, and we return to the Dark Ages. When the average life span was less than half of today.
get rid of fossil fuels, and we return to the Dark Ages
1. Incredible strawman. No one this side of ELF is saying halt all fossil fuels.
2. Assumes a level of but-for cause regarding coal and the renaissance I don't think is established.
3. Most importantly, utterly elides the progress of energy tech since the dark ages.
And a correlation without a causal connection often IS a coincidence! Should I dig up the famous graph of the correlation between global temp and pirate attacks?
bored - valid points
Vaclav Smil has several good books on the historical development of the use of energy, machinery and the effect on human civilization. Human progress was very slow and very incremental over the last 5,000 years, then development exploded with the advent of the use of fossil fuels in the late 1700's (industrial revolution).
"The cigarette companies weren’t the ones smoking the cigs,"
Right. And under the standards of tort law prevailing in this country for decades, centuries even, the cigarette companies were reliably held harmless. Until a group of tort lawyers literally conspired with some states to change tort law to get at their money!
This is no different legally than the effort to bankrupt the firearms manufacturers that lead to the Lawful Commerce act. I thought at the time that it was a mistake to limit that law to just firearms.
For people, you want Lochnerian prevention of governmental protections.
For corporations, you want immunity from fault when they knowingly harm a group of people.
I'd wonder what the throughline is, but then I remember you think the wealthy have more merit than other humans in any walk of life you'd care to name.
"you want immunity from fault when they knowingly harm a group of people"
What's your limiting principle? Frito-Lay knowingly sells unhealthy foods to willing customers. Porsche sells fast cars. La-Z-Boy and Sony do their best to tempt you into being a couch potato. Jack Daniels isn't selling health food. Where do you draw the liability line?
IIRC a big part of the tobacco cases was that the tobacco companies were falsely saying it wasn't harmful, but if Porsche/Frito-Lay aren't suggesting driving fast/eating potato chips aren't bad ideas, should they be liable?
Heck, most of the food in the grocery store is ... less than optimally healthy.
A great question! I was objecting to Brett's notion of complete immunity, but the line drawing issue is not an easy one!
It is one that's been a common enough Tort Law question that a lot of people have come up with ideas over the years.
It's been a while, but this is the kind of thing that sticks in my mind. This is what I remember from my law school readings:
1. Reasonability - not standard negligence, but rather a common law 'would a reasonable person think this was an expected externality?'
2. Economics - what are the cost-benefits of establishing a system to move the burden of the externality internal to the externalizing institution? Expertise, depth of pockets, transaction costs, inhibition of desired economic activity, etc. This sounds like the most burdensome, but it often comes out with the most hands-off prescription!
3. Transaction - Congress, as the experts of where values meets pragmatic cost/benefit should step in, get a one-time concession from the companies, and then immunize them in return.
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My perferred choice? 3.
Government as mediator, not policy decider either all at once or incrementally as 2 and 1 are respectively.
Not complete immunity, Sarcastr0, correct assignment of fault. If the harm doesn't occur until the fuel is burned, and the degree of harm hinges on how it is burned, fault should be assigned to those who burn it, based on how they burn it.
But the governments don't want to do that, because they have to go after their own voters, who will understand who imposed the cost on them.
They're rather force the industry to pay, in the expectation that their voters will mistakenly blame fuel manufacturers for rising fuel costs instead of the people actually responsible.
The tort theory here is using a product liability paradigm. Your attribution of fault is incorrect.
When I first took tort law, I also thought fault was about blame and rulings were about punishment. But that's not true.
The purpose of tort law as an enterprise is about apportionment of costs to realign the market to avoid unforeseen or hidden costs.
Not that every case does that, but that's the lodestar.
So, why aren't coronary care wards being paid for by potato chip manufacturers? It seems like the same situation as fossil fuels - in its infinite wisdom society have decided the costs of fossil fuels and potato chips are less than the benefits, so why move the costs to the seller in one case and the buyer in the other?
So, why aren't coronary care wards being paid for by potato chip manufacturers?
1. I don't know - maybe a seminal case, maybe just a lack of a strong enough lobby to persistently drive litigation, maybe some deal back in the day, maybe juries are less amenable to that case.
I do know it's not got a lot to do with wisdom as compared to luck.
2. The causality isn't quite as locked down on cholesterol might be less well established than CO2 and the greenhouse effect.
OK, let's be more general - what are the examples[1] of companies being held liable for selling legal, non-defective products at scale[2]?
[1]excepting tobacco, for the reasons stated, and guns before PLCAA
[2]by at scale, I get that if you manufacture mowers you get a steady drip of 'I didn't know you shouldn't lick the spinning blade' type lawsuits. I'm talking about lawsuits big enough to end an industry.
Liability for the selling products that operate as intended? (So no unsafe at any speed or asbestos or DDT)
None spring to mind. People try to get something going about guns every once in a while.
The DoD has plenty of issues about *using* toxic products, but not selling them.
"The purpose of tort law as an enterprise is about apportionment of costs to realign the market to avoid unforeseen or hidden costs."
That's the purpose of tort law from the perspective of judges and lawyers who aspire to be unelected regulators. You ask the average person, the purpose of tort law is to redress wrongs done.
Here the goal is to impose via the courts a politically toxic regulation with as little transparency as to who is really imposing the cost on the end users as possible, so they won't direct their wrath at the right people.
Tort law has never been performed by the average person, why would that matter?
You're arguing against government as guarantor of property protections at this point; you should think this through more than 'government thing bad.'
Check out Richard Epstein. He's a libertarian, and we used his textbook - he's who I'm cribbing from.
You think Prof. Adler is working to impose a politically toxic regulation? That doesn't sound like him!
Tort law has to justify its existence to the average person, though.
"You're arguing against government as guarantor of property protections at this point; "
Nope. Violation of property rights qualifies as a wrong done.
I'm arguing against tort law as a way of imposing regulations the political branches reject.
Tort law has to justify its existence to the average person, though.
Apparently it doesn't. The judiciary is the branch insulated from the populous, remember? The Founders were not populists and did a really genius job setting up a framework that mixed elite and populist institutions; don't muddy those waters with a paeon to the common man.
Violation of property rights qualifies as a wrong done.
You apparently don't understand property rights' interactions with externalities.
"Apparently it doesn't. "
Maybe not in the short run.
Tort law predates our country, Brett. Congress tweaks is every once in a while, but it's endured.
Your blandishments about some popular uprising against the tort lawyers is pretty silly in light of actual history.
I'm no stan for tort law - I point you to my discusison of limiting factors above. Congress is the better arena. But tort law isn't illegitimate just because Brett doesn't understand it.
Yes, tort law has existed for a long time. Tort law as a way of imposing regulations the legislature refuses to? Not so long a time.
"IIRC a big part of the tobacco cases was that the tobacco companies were falsely saying it wasn't harmful,"
And the reason they routinely won anyway until tort law was rigged against them, was that everybody knew they were lying about it. So users were correctly understood to be voluntarily assuming the risk.
"The cigarette companies weren’t the ones smoking the cigs,"
True, and it's not for nothing that cigarettes were called "coffin nails" even decades ago.
It's also true that tobacco is addictive, and the manufacturers were working to make it even more addictive, so perhaps the "smokers are entirely acting on free will" argument isn't quite a slam dunk.
Unlike cigarettes, everyone both benefits and is hurt by the burning of fossil fuels. As much as the environmentalists would like to seek damages for externalities, they are also uninterested in recognizing the indirect benefits they also receive. Which makes it incredibly difficult to tease out or separate liability here. It's not asbestos or lead paint, or even the original air pollution target of the Clean Air Act. I can 100% filter the exhaust from my burning fossil fuels yet still be culpable for nebulous "warming".
I find it difficult to accept, given the overwhelming cumulative benefit to our society, how one could possibly hold only the oil companies liable. Should everyone that makes an engine that burns fossil fuels also be liable. As others have said, the impact and breadth is so defused, this seems to be something a legislature should decide, not a court. Almost every other technological innovation indirectly benefited from the availability of energy over the years.
As much as the environmentalists would like to seek damages for externalities, they are also uninterested in recognizing the indirect benefits they also receive.
It's not clear what these indirect benefits are. Having a warm home, a car to get places, and being able to buy goods that are cheaper or better or only available at all because of fossil fuels are all benefits, but they look pretty direct to me.
I find it difficult to accept, given the overwhelming cumulative benefit to our society, how one could possibly hold only the oil companies liable.
I mostly agree. For one thing, individual decisions about what kind of vehicle to drive, or whether to drive at all, affect things, as do manufacturers' decisions about processes and equipment. The point is that those who benefit should pay the cost of acquiring that benefit.
This is why it seems to me that carbon taxes or cap-and-trade make sense. Want to drive a big SUV? Fine, but pay for the externalities.
We definitely should hold drug manufacturers responsible for the harmful effects of their products.
For example: drug cartels should be held responsible for the deaths they cause from fentanyl.
Tariffs on the countries that dupply the precursors to the cartels, and since cartels don't respond to tort litigation, let's bomb them.
the hell! you say.
We dont really want to hold drug manufacturers responsible for the harmful effects of their products.
"Manufacturers are found liable for the consequence of their products"
Typically only if those consequences were hidden and not disclosed, or if there's some defect (and when the consequences are made known, the user stops use).
If someone dies in a car crash, and there's no defect/fault in the auto....the person just was injured because they hit a tree...the auto company typically isn't liable. Car crashes are a known risk. The people then pop back in another car to the hospital, then keep using automobiles.
Carbon emissions are a known result of burning fossil fuels. These cities and towns know this. They don't propose eliminating their fossil fuel use. They're just shaking down someone for money.
I think this whole discussion is confusing externalities with effects on users and manufacturers.
Fossil fuel use has negative externalities. What are its positive externalities? Most of the benefits seem to me to be realized by users.
Attempting to impose trillions in liabilities on fossil fuel companies through torts based on bad science and then defending these lawsuits (hey, its nature of tort suits), is why lawyers rank lower than kimodo dragons as pet preferences, and no one would even give them an umbrella in a class 5 hurricane.
This is not an attempt at a carbon tax; its an attempt to bankrupt fossil fuel companies. The science of "harms" that justify trillions in liabilities is made up scare fiction (whats next, dairy cows?--yes!). And congressional inaction itself is a policy preference. Nobody is clamoring for a carbon tax, except some out of touch liberal academics. Its a bad idea. California attempted to force its policy preferences on the rest of the country, we see how that worked out. No state should be able to obtain through tort action what they cannot achieve in congress, just because a bunch of liberal academic lawyers say so (Just the nature of torts, lmao).
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Prof Alder may be right on the legal issues but his is ludicrously wrong on the merits arguments and on normative policy. The harms of unbalanced tort litigation are immense and not merely in the context of climate. The US legal system has been in desparate need of reform to its approach to tort litigation for decades.
His only normative argument is that a democratically elected congress should be the ones to determine whether preempting state law is appropriate in a given situation …
No, he is also making a normative argument that tort law is an appropriate mechanism to set public policy. It is not.
he is also making a normative argument that tort law is an appropriate mechanism to set public policy. It is not.
You are right. It isn't.
It's expensive, time-consuming, and inefficient, and compensation, when awarded, is slow in coming and somewhat random.
Adler dislikes regulation intensely, but if we want to mitigate these problems regulation, or much better, something like a carbon tax or cap-and-trade system would be preferable.
No, he's making a more subtle argument: that the current state of the law does not necessarily exclude tort law from being used as a mechanism by motivated groups to set public policy.
If I understand the bigger picture he, Congress could pre-empt and forbid any such lawsuits. Unless or until they, such actions can theoretically proceed. And I don't see him predicting success, only they can be litigated.
Its not subtle. Internet commenters just cant comprehend basic stuff.
No, he expressly agrees that tort law might not be the appropriate mechanism! But whether tort law is or is not the appropriate mechanism is a decision for Congress, not the judiciary.
Wven if hes "right" on the legal issues The Supreme Court does, can, and will have the last word on legal issues, even if it changes precedent.
he Supreme Court does, can, and will have the last word
Which is why I think these suits availeth not, regardless of law or merits. This has 6-3 all over it. The 6 will believe that the plaintiffs cannot be allowed to win.
Let us disconnect from reality and enter the temple of "climate science religion" where empirical data has no place and the utterances of the "climate models" cannot be challenged.
I don't think this is a fair characterization of Barr's op-ed. Barr argues that the purpose of the state law nuisance suits is to achieve a de facto carbon tax when such a tax could never pass at the federal level. He claims one of the lawyers was unusually candid in admitting this recently.
Adler claims this isn't a big deal because the lawyer just said "what everyone understands about the nature of tort suits." Maybe academics and policy-makers, but not "everyone." Barr's whole point is that these suits are designed to implement an unpopular policy (a carbon tax) without political accountability. That point seems to me a valid one, even if law and economics students aren't fooled.
Barr also points out the lawyer's candor about the end game: “Every defendant in all these cases immediately declares bankruptcy because they have to.” As Barr notes, this means companies subject to suit in American courts (i.e., American energy companies) will be damaged, while foreign energy companies gain a competitive advantage. If you're a fan of American energy independence, this ought to be cause for concern.
So it seems to me Barr's overall point is opposition to allowing tort lawyers to set policy through litigation that voters would never approve. And he's concerned that kneecapping American energy producers, while allowing their foreign competitors to escape liability, may actually make things worse, if the goal is transition to cleaner energy. I think Adler gives these points short shrift.
Maybe they are to some degree talking past each other. It's Barr's view that it's bad to allow policy to be set through tort law. I agree with that, but thinking it's bad does not preclude it from being attempted. I hear Adler affirming that yes, under current law and precedent, it can be attempted.
When torts suits against firms that manufacture or distribute a product are successful, the liable firms inevitably seek to pass those costs on to consumers in the form of higher prices.
I don't agree, and would like to see the empirical evidence in support of this, even though, per Adler, "everyone understands this."
ABC, Inc. loses a $100M tort suit. Does it now raise its prices $100M? How would it do that? Its competitors aren't going to raise their prices.
Besides, if ABC can arbitrarily increase its revenue by $100M after the suit, why didn't it do so before? Were they just leaving that money on the table for no reason? Customers aren't going to pay higher prices out of sympathy for ABC's loss.
One final point. Prices are presumably set in an effort to maximize gross profits - to produce the largest gross margins. The tort payment is a one-time expense that does not affect gross margins.
If ABC thought its pricing would be optimal before the suit, why wouldn't they still think so?
That's a good point if Ford is sued but Chevy isn't. But if all the automakers are sued they can all raise prices w/o becoming uncompetitive, I'd think. And it seems that if you sue one oil company for climate change, you'd sue them all. I don't think Exxon's oil is worse than Texaco's.
Yes. I should have been a bit clearer. If everyone in the industry does the same thing you are right. But if it's a one-time event, like an oil spill or industrial accident, then they won't raise their prices.
Even in the former case the calculation is more complex than just "cover the damages." It may be wiser to eat some of the cost and accept some of the loss that way rather than rather than raise prices and face the lower revenues that will result.
"The tort payment is a one-time expense that does not affect gross margins."
How do you figure THAT?
Typically, if I commit a tort, get sued, and have to pay, I don't get to continue committing the tort! I get sued again, and probably hit with punitive damages, because I can't argue the tort wasn't deliberate.
Here, the 'tort' is simply selling their product! They have no way of ceasing to commit it save shutting down, and that would impact their profits just a smidge.
Typically, if I commit a tort, get sued, and have to pay, I don't get to continue committing the tort!
Believe it or not, that's not the case. It depends on the tort, and the harm. A company may find it economical to settle to pay and be able to continue doing the activity.
They have no way of ceasing to commit it save shutting down, They have no way of ceasing to commit it save shutting down,
Are there not ways to reduce emissions without shutting down?
Using different, probably more expensive, processes or materials, say?
I got the sense from the OP that it wasn't talking about suing Exxon to, say, make them more careful about methane emissions from a refinery, but more that they sell gasoline that ends up as CO2.
I don't see it working for Exxon to say 'you can only use our gas in cars that get more than 35MPG, and must keep your tires inflated'.
(I agree with comments you make upthread ... winning such a suit would be like the dog catching the car. If the winners go 'yippee, no more SUVs and everyone must keep their thermostat at 55', they are kidding themselves. In a democracy you actually have to get 51% of the voters to go along with your agenda. Thinking that winning a lawsuit will force those kind of changes on an unconvinced population is pretty fundamentally misunderstanding how things work. Rachel Carson convinced. You can't just compel.)
I got the sense from the OP that it wasn't talking about suing Exxon to, say, make them more careful about methane emissions from a refinery, but more that they sell gasoline that ends up as CO2.
I think that's right. As I said, I was thinking more in terms of one-time incidents.
Torts are a lousy way to deal with the problem you describe.
There isn't a political consensus that it even IS a problem, which makes it really hard for a functioning democracy to "deal with".
The point of the lawsuits is to circumvent the US being a functioning democracy...
"Insurance, how does it work?"