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Apparent AI Hallucinations in Defense Filing in Coomer v. Lindell / My Pillow Election-Related Libel Suit
From yesterday's decision by Judge Nina Wang in Coomer v. Lindell (D. Colo.):
As discussed extensively on the record, after confirming with Mr. Kachouroff that he signed the Opposition consistent with his obligations under Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the Court identified nearly thirty defective citations in the Opposition. These defects include but are not limited to misquotes of cited cases; misrepresentations of principles of law associated with cited cases, including discussions of legal principles that simply do not appear within such decisions; misstatements regarding whether case law originated from a binding authority such as the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit; misattributions of case law to this District; and most egregiously, citation of cases that do not exist.
Despite having every opportunity to do so, Mr. Kachouroff declined to explain to the Court how the Opposition became replete with such fundamental errors. For example, when confronted with the first misquotation in a parenthetical appearing on page 3 of the Opposition—purportedly drawn from Mata v. City of Farmington, 798 F. Supp. 2d 1215, 1227 (D.N.M. 2011)—Mr. Kachouroff stated to the Court:
Your Honor I may have made a mistake and I may have paraphrased and put quotes by mistake. I wasn't intending to mislead the Court. I don't think the quote is far off from what you read to me.
When asked how a case from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky became attributable to the United States District Court for the District of Colorado, Mr. Kachouroff indicated that he "had given the cite checking to another person," later identified as Ms. DeMaster. When asked whether he would be surprised to find out that the citation Perkins v. Fed. Fruit & Produce Co., 945 F.3d 1242, 1251 (10th Cir. 2019) appearing on page 6 of Defendants' Opposition did not exist as an actual case, Mr. Kachouroff indicated that he would be surprised.
{There is a District of Colorado case of Perkins v. Fed. Fruit & Produce Co., 945 F. Supp. 2d 1225 (D. Colo. 2013), appeal dismissed, No. 13-1250 (10th Cir. July 29, 2013), but such case does not stand for the proposition asserted by Defendants, i.e., that a Court of Appeals affirmed "admitting evidence of prior emotional difficulties to challenge damages claims."} Time and time again, when Mr. Kachouroff was asked for an explanation of why citations to legal authorities were inaccurate, he declined to offer any explanation, or suggested that it was a "draft pleading."
Not until this Court asked Mr. Kachouroff directly whether the Opposition was the product of generative artificial intelligence did Mr. Kachouroff admit that he did, in fact, use generative artificial intelligence. After further questioning, Mr. Kachouroff admitted that he failed to cite check the authority in the Opposition after such use before filing it with the Court—despite understanding his obligations under Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Even then, Mr. Kachouroff represented that he personally outlined and wrote a draft of a brief before utilizing generative artificial intelligence. Given the pervasiveness of the errors in the legal authority provided to it, this Court treats this representation with skepticism….
The court ordered defendants' lawyers to explain why they shouldn't be sanctioned, and why they shouldn't be referred for disciplinary proceedings. It added,
Counsel will specifically address, under the oath subject to the penalty of perjury, the circumstances surrounding the preparation of the Opposition to Plaintiff's Motion in Limine, including but not limited to whether Defendants were advised and approved of their counsel's use of generative artificial intelligence ….
No later than May 5, 2025, defense counsel of record SHALL CERTIFY that a copy of this Order has been provided to Defendant Michael Lindell personally ….
One might say Mr. Kachouroff was caught with his pants down, though I think the current problem is worse than the earlier one:
Thanks to my colleague Justin Grimmer for the pointer (to the AI hallucination matter, not the pants one).
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ROTFLMAO!
At least Trump got MUCH MUCH better legal representation as time went on. I just don't get it, in regards to this case. It's like intentional sabotage. Penny wise; pound foolish.
Yes, it's really striking, the habitual inability of the Trumpniks generally to hire competent lawyers. I don't quite get it. I mean, I don't think much of Prof. Blackman's analyses, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't submit a brief with fake cases. But Trump-affiliated lawyers always seem a few notches below the Mendoza line, so to speak.
I think the judge is worried that she will be replaced by AI. Or she watched too many Terminator movies.
Well, that’s a lame take. Fake citations that waste everyone’s time are a big problem if only for that reason.
Whose time was wasted? Presumably the other party alerted the judge in the reply brief. Maybe the other party wasted some time, but checking out a real citation would have taken more time. Then he would have some cases to read!
I can’t believe that it is hard to understand why this was a waste of time. They had a hearing where the judge asked the lawyer about each bogus citation. That is a waste of time. And sure, checking out a real citation takes time, but they will still have to do that again in the future because the lawyer will have to submit a new brief. Reading an extra brief is a waste of time.
Roger S is an antisemitic MAGA loon, but he's also this weird autistic engineer (is that triply redundant?) who has a hard on for AI to the point where he thinks that a rule requiring attorneys to only submit things that are true does not forbid them from filing fabricated citations if the citations were generated by AI.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!
I understand the show cause order… but an admittedly new one for me is the last bit: certifying that Lindell personally gets a copy? What was the concern here— that the lawyers wouldn’t tell him?
When a lawyer gets sanctioned for mishandling his client's case, it's not uncommon for the court to order that the lawyer specifically notify the client of it. Yes, there's a concern that the lawyers wouldn't tell the client.
If Lindell had any measurable amount of intelligence, he would just submit a demand for a hand written and SIGNED guarantee from the fake judge, that he would actually GET a fair trial! Not even one of those fake judges would ever do such a thing, because they al know that a fair trial is impossible because the legal system is completely rigged up! WHY does anyone have to go through a trial, that isn't fair to them?
Once upon a time there was a thing called "Shepard's Citations".
When I taught legal research and writing I and the other teachers made a point of stressing, time and again, the absolute necessity to use Shepard's, i.e., "Shepardize". Not only the citation but also one-level-down, particularly when there's a sub-cite embedded in the main cite.
It doesn't do much good to cite "Smith v. Jones" for the proposition that "Norton v. Kramden" expresses the governing law, when "Norton v. Kramden" has been overruled. You might only find out that "Norton" is no longer good law by Shepardizing "Norton".
While there are only so many hours in a day, one of the hours that needs to be kept on the schedule is using Shepard's. Better to do that at the beginning, before you write the brief relying on that caselaw, than waiting until the end and finding out only then that you've built your brief on bad (or non-existent) precedent.
Your adversary will find it.
The other time that HAS to be spent is the time spent on actually reading the cases. I won a case once where the opposition party misstated the law by selective misquoting.
"Plaintiffs argue that "[t]o hold otherwise would be contrary to well-settled law ... that `a contract speaks as of the date it was signed.' .... The actual "well-settled law" in ... is stated more fully as follows: "Unless the parties understand otherwise, a contract speaks as of the date it was signed."
I know that was 35 years ago and actually reading the cases and doing the drudgery of Shepardizing is so, so passe. But it still remains the "best practice" that has to be followed.
What's even more hilarious is that one of the defective citations to a real case was Peterson v. Nelnet, decided by then-Magistrate Judge Wang: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-cod-1_17-cv-01064/pdf/USCOURTS-cod-1_17-cv-01064-2.pdf