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Twice, SCOTUS Finds Coastal Courts Improperly Exercised Venue
In two consecutive orders, the Court signals that progressive litigants forum shopped to the wrong courts.
On March 30, I wrote a post titled "Coastal Judges Play Keep-Away From The Fifth Circuit." One week later, the Supreme Court has turned the tides.
Last Friday, in Department of Education v. California, the Court ruled that a federal court in Boston improperly exercised jurisdiction and venue. The challenge to the funding cut belonged in the Court of Federal Claims. And today, in Trump v. J.G.G., the Court ruled that a federal court in the District of Columbia improperly exercised jurisdiction and venue over an alien detained in Texas.
For "core habeas petitions," "jurisdiction lies in only one district: the district of confinement." Rumsfeld v. Padilla, 542 U. S. 426, 443 (2004). The detainees are confined in Texas, so venue is improper in the District of Columbia. As a result, the Government is likely to
I draw several conclusions from this ruling.
First, this was a case of clear forum shopping by the ACLU and other groups. The aliens were known to be detained in Texas. The obvious venue to file suit was in Texas. The ACLU determined (rationally) that the Fifth Circuit would not be a favorable forum. Therefore, they took a risk and sought emergency relief in the D.C. Circuit on a Saturday. Their decision backfired. Now, venue will lie in Texas. I think most criticisms about forum shopping expired on January 20, 2025.
Second, Judge Boasberg committed a clear legal error. The Supreme Court ruled that he exercised jurisdiction when he should not have. Is there any greater error than improperly exercising jurisdiction? As best as I can recall, the Court has never faulted Judges Reed O'Connor or Matthew Kacsmaryk with such an error. Chalk one up for Texas federal judges. Moreover, the gushing coverage of Judge Boasberg has been nauseating. I don't recall any District Court judge who has received more favorable press by the mainstream media in such a short period of time. Perhaps the most egregious such piece stressed how Judge Boasberg has friends in high places--namely, Justice Kavanaugh. As if a Supreme Court Justice will favorably review a decision from his friend? Well you know what? Justice Kavanaugh reversed his fellow "cubbie." The suggestion that there is some sort of club where elite judges rule for their buddies is beyond obnoxious, and demeaning to Justice Kavanaugh. Finally, it is not clear if the District Court has power to hold the executive branch in contempt where it lacks jurisdiction over the case.
Third, there are several other cases pending where aliens are detained in Louisiana, but coastal judges have asserted jurisdiction. I think this ruling should send a clear signal to federal courts in Boston and New Jersey: you do not have the power to supervise cases where the alien is detained on the Gulf of America.
Fourth, the aliens in Texas cannot be removed right away. They must be afforded a hearing before their removal:
More specifically, in this context, AEA detainees must receive notice after the date of this order that they are subject to removal under the Act. The notice must be afforded within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such removal occurs.
This is a very quiet defeat for the Trump Administration, which sought to spirit the aliens away without any hearing.
Fifth, I'm still not sure what JGG means for Chief Justice Roberts in the Garcia case. I think JGG is a fairly straightforward application of habeas and venue law. Rumsfeld v. Padilla has been on the books for two decades But the Garcia matter concerns the power of the judiciary. And John Roberts is still at heart a judicial supremacist. Perhaps in that case Justice Barrett swings the other way?
I will have more to say about this case, and Justice Barrett's dissent* in another post.
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IANAL but it seems like the government also engages in forum shopping when it moves prisoners to specific districts.
Well, sure, that's what Rule of Law means, that you get to pick which Men interpret the Law. That's what fig leaves were invented for.
You know, in TX and LA, due process is pretty speedy from what I read.
LA Judge: Illegal alien gangbanger, you're due to be processed
on Air El Salvadorand you're already 15 minutes late. Have a nice day, counselor, hope you got your fee upfront in cash. Next case.You're right about the venue thing though, I think. All SCOTUS said was you get to adjudicate where you are incarcerated. Could be Guantanamo.
I don't know about it in this instance; I heard somewhere that ICE is physically setup to conduct the bulk of their removal operations and administration in the south of the nation. Given the historical focus of border enforcement has been for the southern border, that makes sense to me.
Regardless, the government, like most litigants, is conscious of the jurisdiction in which a case is brought. A conspiracy's sprawling tendrils happens to land upon a jurisdiction that might give the government a more favorable jury pool, they'll bring the whole conspiracy case there.
Where in Massachusetts do you think ICE would be permitted to build a jail?
These two plus Education on Friday should spell the end of these unappealable TROs which are in reality prelim injunctions.
Also, its not clear that "This is a very quiet defeat for the Trump Administration, which sought to spirit the aliens away without any hearing."
The Trump admin made their point: They are willing to do what it takes. They put people on notice. I feel sure they knew they would only get away with it once.
A key point from the order Josh glosses over (edit ok no he doesn't) (in addition to not acknowledging the heavy forum shopping in Texas the conservatives did under Biden).
EDIT-i shouldn't have said gloss over-he mentioned it. but i think he fails to understand why this wasn't JUST shopping but also because they didn't know where all of them were due to lack of notice.
from the order
"More specifically, in this context, AEA detainees must receive notice after the date of this order that they are subject to removal
under the Act. The notice must be afforded within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to
actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such
removal occurs. "
this language is a huge victory for plaintiffs as the government before today said thats not the law (see oral argument in dc circuit).
once you have that the forum and venue questions still matter but much much less so.
It is good news for the plaintiffs, but I'm not sure it is a huge victory, the administration had already conceded that point in its brief.
After all its habeas that has a sharply restricted venue in the district of confinement, and to ensure the friendly venue, the administration had to argue habeas was the only remedy.
Plus the use of habeas completely buries the possibility of relief as a class. So they are going to have to argue individually on their specific facts, which seems fair.
The government's concession before the court DID NOT concede notice: they conceded as they did below that people had a right to habeus relief targeted to whether they were gang members. But they DID NOT concede notice and in fact said there was no right to notice at oral argument before the circuit court.
p8 of the government's reply brief "More broadly, this Office has been informed that aliens detained pursuant to the AEA
receive notice that they are detained pursuant to the AEA, and could thus bring habeas petitions to challenge that detention, even if they cannot challenge the notice
itself or collaterally attack removal as in a Title 8 proceeding. Contra Opp. 4, 8. "
in other words-just trust us we ARE giving notice (but there is no right to it.
Another fan-fic insert post where Josh imagines he’s influenced SCt decisions.
And where does Josh make any insinuation that he influenced the Supreme Court in these cases?
After determining that the district court had no jurisdiction, that should end the case, and one might argue that the rest is obiter dicta. (But probably best not to with this Court that seems not to shy away from issuing advisory opinions).
Shades of Dred Scott?
Did they hand out orders to organizations that weren't party to a case?
I'd think that if there were no adequate habeas remedy, then the the APA would be back on the table as an option. So to say that habeas applies seems very relevant. To me, it's the availability of the Great Writ which makes me care little about applying the APA here.
That was my thought exactly. Habeas is the proper remedy. It is available. All the issues will be heard, and since it will probably end up in Supreme Court anyway, who cares, besides the P.T. Barnum of a judge who seems to be auditioning for MSNBC Man of the Year?
I agree. At this point I can't help but feel like Boasberg is just trying to get a pound of flesh from the Trump administration.
How many TdA members were deported on other grounds? How many TdA members remain only due to the AEA? Are the original five plaintiffs even still in the country?
This is increasingly much ado about nothing.
I think it’s because the government sought vacatur of the putative TROs, not dismissal. So now it goes back to the DC district court, which will have to dismiss if/when the government moves to dismiss. If it doesn’t grant the motion, then I think the government can appeal that. I could be wrong, though.
When a habeas petition is filed in the wrong court, it may transfer it to the proper court, but there is no habeas petition here - or, rather, there was initially, but the ACLU dismissed it at the judge's coaxing, because he knew he had no jurisdiction - so, who the hell knows with this CF of a case and this idiot judge, who from the beginning seemed more interested in laying a contempt trap for the government than properly administering the law.
A "contempt trap" is a contemptible phrase on your part. There was no "trap." They were issued an order and they wantonly chose to violate it. That's a "trap" in much the same way that leaving a matchbook on a table is an "arson trap."
Yes. If a habeas filed in the wrong court, the court has jurisdiction to transfer it to the proper court. Could he also enter an administrative stay for "equitable reasons"? This doesn't typically come up in habeas as someone is confined and will remain confined.
I wonder if Judge B. can certify the habeas class (he decides he can do it) and transfer the matter to TX with an administrative stay prohibiting any deportations to El Salvador.
So, if Boasberg had no jurisdiction then how can the S.Ct. order anything but the dismissal of this action?
That’s a good point. I think it’s because the government sought vacatur of the putative TROs, not dismissal. So now it goes back to the DC district court, which will have to dismiss. I could be wrong, though.
Or Boasberg will gin up something uber-creative and daring like allowing plaintiffs to un-drop their habeas claims that he encouraged them to drop, and then transfer the case to Texas.
Hell, even I underestimated his creativity. He's keeping the case alive and giving plaintiffs a solid week to try to dream up some new theory to keep the music playing:
Even after SCOTUS's grant, Boasberg ordered that tomorrow's hearing will continued as scheduled. I guess we'll see tomorrow what tricks are up the plaintiffs' robes.
Hearing was cancelled. Boasberg is asking the ACLU on what they want to do next.
The government's brief was a brilliant winning over of John Roberts by steering him to this seemingly split decision. I admire the skill of those attorneys to read a judge.
I must admit, all these America-hating reality stars running things have some good lawyers
Coastal Courts?
Courts that are about to be submerged due to rising sea levels.
Yeah, you know, those courts that aren't Real America.
Note that one of the cases is supposed to be refiled in the Court of Federal Claims, which is just as "coastal" as the DDC.
Not ripe for the riparians. Too close to the telegraph machines and the Zeppelin ports. Tends to bring in all sorts of strange ideas.
Mr. D.
So they get notice, a hearing, and habeas corpus, but in Texas and not in Washington, DC.
While Trump is supposedly invoking the Alien Enemies Act (AEA) only against a Venezuelan drug gang, if the AEA applies at all then Trump could, with a stroke of the pen, order *all* Venezuelans, regardless of personal guilt, out of the country.
It comes down to whether there's a "predatory incursion" by Venezuela. If so, all Venezuelans, including those admitted for permanent residence, can be kicked out at will until the Pres decides the incursion is over (unless the court modifies Ludecke v. Watkins).
So I'm hoping that when the detainees *do* get their hearings, the Court will give a narrow reading to "predatory incursion," maybe limiting it to stuff like commando raids, so that lawfully-admitted Venezuelans will, in future, be safe.
At the same time, I know it's dicey to second-guess the Pres on matters of war and peace - I wouldn't think the courts should be able to challenge him on the facts (Venezuelan sponsorship of drug gang) but on the legal significance of the facts (bad, not non commando-raid bad).
Why not? That's not a policy question; that's a factual question, which courts are well equipped to decide.
If they can't challenge him on his completely fake invasion claim, then he can tomorrow equally falsely claim that any other country is sponsoring any other criminal group, and deport anyone at all who isn't a citizen, legal or illegal, from anywhere in the world.
I think the question should be, what would be the legal result if Venezuela sponsored a drug gang to harm the U. S.? I'd say it was *not* a predatory incursion, though Congress could certainly see it as a casus belli if it agreed on the factual premises.
I'd think a predatory incursion would have to be something sufficiently open and obvious, which potentially makes the situation too urgent to wait for Congress to declare war. So the courts won't even have to get into second-guessing Trump on the facts, since only obvious acts like commando raids would qualify as predatory incursions.
"The notice must be afforded within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such removal occurs."
How much time is that? Prisoner time or fancy ACLU lawyer time?
So has the 'core' of habeas now been officially expanded?
I am not so sure I buy the logic of the majority's reasoning that challenging their removal to El Salvador per the AEA automatically means they are challenging their confinement and is therefore 'core' habeas when the plaintiffs very specifically never argued for or asked for release from confinement. How charitable of the Court majority to impose this argument they weren't making on them and then decide the case based on this same made up fiction to fit the argument into precedent's with a pre-determined result [core habeas jurisdiction is at the place of confinement.] Habeas petitions seeking release are typically directed at the warden of the facility holding them; which in this case, may not even be a proper defendant [since they aren't asking to be released.]
Seems to me more than a few times the lower court noted it's order does not remove any class member from US govt confinement, prevent the govt from detaining and then confining more Venezuelans per the AEA etc... it just prevented the govt from removing them to CECOT while the litigation in the lower court was ongoing.
My understanding was that if you're held on the basis of an illegal order (say a misuse of the AEA), the court can order your release, but if there's a legal way to hold you, you can then be promptly re-arrested on a proper basis.
Out the prison door, then back in again on a new rationale.
Or maybe any single basis for legal detention would be sufficient, and the court has to ignore other bases.
But what if someone is on Death Row in addition to a life sentence for some other crime? Can't the death row part of the sentence be challenged on habeas even if the life sentence can't be challenged?
I think the 'core' of habeas has traditionally been a claim that someone is being illegally [unconstitutionally] held and a ruling in their favor would necessarily mean they could no longer be held. It was a means to get someone released.
I just don't agree with the framing the court used because its not faithful to the arguments made in the proceedings below -which operated on the basis that the plaintiffs were not seeking release from confinement.
The capital punishment piece is mentioned specifically by Chief Justice Marshall in his decision on the habeas case of Ex Parte Bollman and Ex Parte Swartwout, 8 U.S. 75 (1807).
Other points which seem especially relevant also appear in a few paragraphs at the end of the decision. My legally untutored reading of that decision suggests to me that Marshall did not endorse the arguments of today's Supreme Court majority.
"Is there any greater error than improperly exercising jurisdiction?"
Great or not, the error is not unusual in federal courts with their limited subject matter jurisdiction.
Josh Blackman once again lies about the cases in New Jersey and Boston (the Boston case got transfered to Vermont). He falsely claims those aliens were in Louisiana. They were not. They were in New Jersey and Vermont, so the fifth circuit never got jurisdiction. The Government moved them to Louisiana AFTER the Habeas petitions were filed. JB is in favor of forum shopping when the DOJ does it. Unfortunately for him the government can't unilaterally change jurisdiction by moving a detainee after the petition is filed. Otherwise the government could make the fifth circuit the only court to here these cases and the concept of jurisdiction is meaningless.
Right; indeed, that's the whole reason that on the TdA case the government didn't provide any notice: so that it could sneak its victims into Texas before they could file petitions.
Chief Justice Marshall, deciding the case, Ex Parte Bollman and Ex Parte Swartwout, 8 U.S. 75 (1807):
But in this case, a tribunal for the trial of the offense, wherever it may have been committed, had been provided by Congress, and at the place where the prisoners were seized by the authority of the commander in chief there existed such a tribunal. It would, too, be extremely dangerous to say that because the prisoners were apprehended not by a civil magistrate, but by the military power, there could be given by law a right to try the persons so seized in any place which the general might select and to which he might direct them to be carried.
Emphasis added.
The ruling does not say, “They must be afforded a hearing before their removal.” It says they must be given opportunity to *seek* habeas relief, not a hearing.
Which is what due process as always required...notice and a meaningful opportunity to challenge something the gov't is doing.
The 'meaningful opportunity' (to file habeas) is where the Court will find the Govt does not operate in good faith.
Are habeas petitioner's entitled to appointment of counsel? No. Habeas is a civil remedy.
Is privately hired counsel timely informed where an AEA detainee is held? No.
Has the govt promised to expeditiously remove AEA detainees out of the country? Yes. Repeatedly.
Let's say it takes the govt 3 days to get someone from NYC driven to New Jersey and from there flown to Louisiana or Arizona and from there to Texas for final destination of CECOT in El Salvador and they give the detainee 'notice' upon their initial seizure in NYC. By the time the family or interested persons get a lawyer retained to file habeas and figure out where they are being held; they are already in El Salvador. The govt says "they had 3 days to file for habeas" and now the Court has lost jurisdiction to hear their habeas petition.
Meaningful opportunity? What does meaningful mean to you or I? What does it mean to a Government that doesn't care about being fair and just wants designated foreign terrorists removed as fast as possible? We already know the govt (or rather this DOJ) didn't believe due process even required notice of removal to El Salvador - now the Sup Ct says it does - but do you trust this DOJ to make it easier for detainees to file habeas or harder? These are the type of people that would give the notice in Chinese to Spanish speakers and say they "technically" got notice so they are compliant with what the Sup Ct ruled. That is the type of people the DOJ has directing internal policy.
“As best as I can recall, the Court has never faulted Judges Reed O'Connor or Matthew Kacsmaryk with such an error.“
I guess you’re not counting getting a 9-0 reversal on standing in the abortion pill case?
"Coastal courts"?
You could just say (((Globalist courts))) and save some time.