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Second Amendment Roundup: 9th Circuit Upholds California Magazine Ban (Again)
The third time isn’t the charm.
A lot of water has poured over the dam since Judge Roger Benitez of the Southern District of California issued a preliminary injunction in 2017 against enforcement of California's ban on possession of a magazine holding over ten rounds. Since then, Duncan v. Becerra has been up and down the ladder from the district court to the Ninth Circuit for multiple panel and en banc decisions and then to the Supreme Court, which sent it back for reconsideration in light of Bruen. After Judge Benitez found that the ban is invalid under Bruen, the Ninth Circuit went directly en banc and for the third time upheld the ban.
"Third time's the charm" means you finally got something right, but here "third time isn't the charm," as the Ninth Circuit has now tripled-down in its resistance to the Second Amendment and to the Supreme Court's holdings. On March 20, the en banc court issued two opinions, one upholding the ban on the merits, and the other justifying its circumvention of en banc rehearing rules to allow five senior judges from the previous en banc court to participate again. I won't discuss that second decision here, but suffice it to say that it leaves the strong odor of the appearance of impropriety.
Authoring the majority's opinion on the merits, Senior Judge Susan Graber wrote: "Large-capacity magazines are optional accessories to firearms, and firearms operate as intended without a large-capacity magazine. A large-capacity magazine is thus an accessory or accoutrement, not an 'Arm' in itself. Possession of a large-capacity magazine therefore falls outside the text of the Second Amendment." But even if the text "encompasses the possession of [such] an optional accessory," its "especially dangerous uses" negate its protection.
The court conceded that "experts estimate that approximately half of privately owned magazines hold more than ten rounds," but claim – against the judgment of those citizens – that such magazines have "almost no utility in the lawful defense of the home." And such magazines are not even "arms": "At the time of ratification, a clear distinction was recognized between weapons themselves, referred to as 'arms,' and accessories of weaponry, referred to as 'accoutrements.' Common accoutrements included flint, scabbards, holsters, and ammunition containers such as cartridge cases and cartridge boxes."
The majority doesn't seem to know that a flintlock musket would not fire without a flint, meaning that it is an essential part of an arm protected by the Second Amendment. And speaking of flintlocks, given the majority's imperative that the more inferior the arm, the better, modern repeating arms that fire smokeless cartridges aren't protected because single-shot flintlock firearms are available. But Heller explicitly rejected that argument.
While claiming that a magazine that holds over ten rounds is not an arm, the majority asserts that a magazine that holds ten or less is an arm because it "is necessary to the ordinary operation" of the firearm "as intended." Ordinary operation as intended by whom? This made up distinction could be used to justify a ban on magazines that hold more than two rounds, as that would still allow the semiautomatic function.
Instead of historical analogues per Bruen, the court calls upon "a more nuanced approach" because the case "implicates both unprecedented societal concerns and dramatic technological changes." That refers to the fact that firearms have developed technologically (Heller said they are still protected) and they have been used in murders (Heller said that was no reason to ban handgun possession by law-abiding persons). The court cites the usual historical restrictions on lancegays, gunpowder storage, trap guns, Bowie knives, slungshot, and pistols but none of these were bans on mere possession.
Of course, Bruen's language about unprecedented social change is inapplicable to Second Amendment challenges to arm ban laws. As explained in Professor Mark Smith's Harvard JLPP article "What Part of 'In Common Use' Don't You Understand?":
Bruen noted that, unlike the relatively straightforward analogues in Heller and in Bruen itself, there might be circumstances in "other cases" in which "unprecedented societal concerns or dramatic technological changes may require a more nuanced approach." But this consideration comes into play only when a court is engaged in examining analogues in non-arms-ban cases for which Heller does not provide the binding rule of decision. Bruen acknowledges that in these "other," non-arms-ban cases some questions may require a "more nuanced" approach to the use of historical analogues than the relatively easy questions presented in Heller and Bruen. Because Bruen's discussion of societal concerns and technological changes applies only in non-arms-ban cases, arguments about alleged societal concerns and technological changes are not relevant in arms-ban cases because Heller provides the relevant legal test.
Heller also held that firearms that are in common use for lawful purposes are protected, but the Duncan court pretends not to know what that means. Despite having recognized above that half of all magazines hold over ten rounds, it faults plaintiffs for supposedly not explaining "why, under their ownership-statistics theory, 176,000 [machineguns nationwide] is insufficient while the somewhat larger, but unknown, number of large-capacity magazines suffices." Why change the subject to machineguns when, as Judge Bumatay noted in dissent, "more than a hundred million 'large-capacity' magazines exist in the country today."
As a last hurrah, the court suggests that so many Americans own magazines over ten rounds because manufacturers force them to buy them. Since such magazines are standard on many models, "a consumer who wants to buy those models has no choice regarding whether the weapon will include a magazine that can fire more than ten rounds without reloading." In reality, why would a consumer want an inferior magazine when a superior one is available? This assertion by a San Francisco court based in the same state as Hollywood is most odd given the frequency of box office bombs like the recent Snow White Disney movie—the point being that American consumers don't buy products they don't want no matter how much money is spent by business on the product.
Next comes the concurrence of Senior Judge Marsha Berzon, joined by five other judges. Judge Lawrence VanDyke included a video explanation along with his written opinion, which Judge Berzon found improper because opinions must be written and because Judge VanDyke set himself up as an expert. More on that below.
Judge Patrick Bumatay, joined by three other judges, dissented. He takes issue with the term "large-capacity magazines," when in fact "magazines holding more than ten rounds are the most common magazines in the country." This would make magazines holding over ten rounds "standard capacity" magazines." Judge Bumatay finds the ban to be presumptively unconstitutional for the following three reasons:
First, like triggers and barrels, magazines are "arms," which Bruen says "covers modern instruments that facilitate armed self-defense." They are not "accoutrements," which an 1810 dictionary defined as "habits, equipage, or furniture, of a soldier, such as belts, pouches, cartridge-boxes, saddles, bridles, &c."
Second, "the majority's faux-Solomonic splitting of magazines based on the number of rounds" concedes that those holding ten or fewer rounds are "arms" entitled to Second Amendment protection, but "as soon as you add one more round—poof—the magazine is no longer 'integral' and it disappears from the Second Amendment's ambit. Call this the 'magic bullet' theory of the Ninth Circuit."
Third, the test is not what's strictly "necessary" for self-defense, but what Americans choose to "facilitate armed self-defense."
Next, Judge Bumatay explains why the "common use" factor is tied not to the level of text, but to that of history. Nothing in the plain text covers common use. As Joel Alicea explains in "Bruen Was Right," forthcoming in U. Pa. L. Rev., "the common-use test is not about the semantic meaning of the Second Amendment's plain text." The issue thus becomes whether, per Bruen, a restriction is "consistent with this Nation's historical tradition," which covers whether a firearm is "dangerous and unusual" or "in common use." There, California has the burden of disproving "common use." Not only is it indisputable that the banned magazines are in common use, but also none of the historical restrictions cited by California banned mere possession of the items.
Finally, the majority's "more nuanced approach" and the "straightforward," unnuanced approach amount to "interest balancing 101—this time masquerading as respect for the Second Amendment's historical scope." Here Judge Bumatay inserted a chart showing how little the majority's language in its pre-Bruen and post-Bruen opinions changed.
Judge Lawrence VanDyke's dissent featured a video in which he dissembled several pistols, explaining how each part is an essential component of the firearm. As for Judge Berzon's attack on the video as improper, the court has long included links to videos in its opinions. The video here doesn't introduce new facts and instead "unmasks their invented constitutional test as obviously grounded in a factual fantasy."
While the majority concedes that a trigger is an essential part and thus has some Second Amendment protection, its "test" would support a ban on all but the most dumbed-down triggers:
Even something as essential to the firearm as a manufacturer-issued trigger could be considered an unprotected "accessory" under the majority's view because that particular trigger is not essential to the function of the firearm, as it could be swapped out for one with less effective, and therefore less "dangerous," attributes.
Similarly, according to the majority, "a grip or a sighting system is not a protected component of a firearm because those pieces are 'optional components' not strictly necessary to make the gun fire a round." Since a comfortable grip and sights make a firearm more useful to a criminal, California could ban most grips and all sights. It could also ban the semi-automatic mechanism and allow citizens to possess only a revolver, a bolt-action, or a single-shot firearm.
The majority's arbitrary conception of what is a "standard" firearm, Judge VanDyke continues, assumes that "there is some Platonic ideal of a firearm, which I guess makes sense if you think judges are the Platonic Guardians of the Second Amendment." And its historical test is at such a high level of generality that the restrictions struck down in Heller and Bruen would survive, because "lots of historical laws have prohibited dangerous things," and "even the jankiest firearm in the hands of the wrong person is 'especially dangerous.'" (See Professor Smith's Harvard JLPP article "Third Rails of Second Amendment Jurisprudence" concerning how courts can avoid deriving historical principles at too high of a level.)
Judge VanDyke concludes that the Ninth Circuit has "established an even more government-friendly version of the very interest balancing the Supreme Court rejected in Bruen" and the court "once again improves its undefeated record against the Second Amendment."
That won't change unless the Supreme Court reins in the courts of appeal. For the tenth time, the Court recently relisted two Second Amendment cases for its conference on Friday April 4. They include Ocean State Tactical v. Rhode Island, which concerns Rhode Island's magazine ban, and Snope v. Brown, which concerns Maryland's ban on semiautomatic rifles.
The magazine issue is otherwise coming to a head. On February 26, a cert petition was filed in Hanson v. District of Columbia challenging D.C.'s magazine ban. West Virginia and 25 other states filed an amici curiae brief in support.
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There is a growing trend for courts to uphold restrictions on the basis that the item in question is not an "arm" at all. Duncan does that by claiming that a magazine that holds over ten rounds is not a component of an "arm." A variation of this burden flip is the assertion that to be an "arm," it must be in common use.
Heller stated that "the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms," and Bruen made clear that the government must show by historical analogues that an item is "dangerous and unusual," which disproves common use.
A recent example of the latter trend is Calce v. City of New York (S.D. N.Y. 2025), which held that plaintiffs did not provide data for the court to conduct a "statistical inquiry" to determine if stun guns and tasers are in common use. No basis thus existed to find that they are "presumptively protected by the Second Amendment at Step 1 of the analysis, and the Court does not proceed to Step 2." Yet as Heller made clear, it is not the plaintiff's burden to establish "common use" but the government's burden to show an "arm" is not in common use, given that the test is derived from the historical tradition of regulating "dangerous and unusual weapons."
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I hope the SCOTUS clears this up once and for all.
Not a chance in hell.
Not with the current court, anyway. But I didn't think I'd live long enough to see even incrementally favorable decisions like Heller and Bruen so there's always hope.
There's some chance, because normal capacity magazines just aren't that terrifying, and the magazine limits are very much an outlier position.
I think the Court may not care if the 2nd amendment is 'moderately' infringed, but they do have some interest in policing the outliers, because the 2nd amendment IS part of the Constitution, and at least 6 of them feel some kind of vague obligation to give it at least some effect thanks to that.
But it's not a very strong inclination, and if it's easy to dodge the case they will, because they're really lazy.
> Second, "the majority's faux-Solomonic splitting of magazines based on the number of rounds" concedes that those holding ten or fewer rounds are "arms" entitled to Second Amendment protection
I see someone other than Josh Blackman does not understand the Judgment of Solomon. The point of the judgment is not to achieve a shitty compromise between two irreconcilable sides -- as Blackman uses it and as the judge uses it here -- it's that the shitty compromise reveals that one of the two parties is insincere and deceitful, allowing Solomon to rule decisively in favour of the the true parents.
This is an issue of basic literacy and it's truly embarrassing.
Perhaps that is exactly what is meant here, that the shitty compromise illustrates how insincere and deceitful the government is.
Maybe the judge doesn't understand it, but he did say "faux-Solomonic", not "Solomonic"...
The same thing often occurs when modernists complain about the Constitution's 3/5 compromise, that it was awful that slaves were counted as only partial people.
No, that wasn't awful, because had they been counted as full persons, the South would have had even greater representation in the US House and more electoral votes. If you were opposed to slavery back in the day, you actually wanted slave population not counted at all.
If a ban on 11+ magazines is constitutional, why not a ban on 5+?
That's next.
Some federal judge ruled pre-Bruen that New York's 7-round limit was unconstitutional, but for some reason a 10-round limit is okay.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/680771/house-democrats-introduce-bill-prohibiting-sale-of-semi-automatic-weapons/
How much do you want to bet this would also be upheld by motivated leftist ("liberal") judges?
Putting aside the fact that Halbrook lies whenever his lips move, as anyone who watched the en banc oral argument in this case would know, the NRA/CRPA lawyer told the judges that bans on "large capacity" magazines are constitutional. The lawyer even suggested to the panel that they hold that bans on handgun magazines that contain more than 20 rounds are constitutional as are bans on rifle magazines that contain more than 30 rounds.
And, of course, as anyone who watched the oral argument in the California "assault rifle" ban case knows, the same NRA lawyer told the court that bans on assault rifles are constitutional.
Halbrook is a mouthpiece for the NRA. This article is just a propaganda piece. We know that nobody at "The Volokh Conspiracy" truly supports the Second Amendment. It is a pity that there doesn't seem to be anyone at Reason.com who does.
Someone sounds jealous. Whose grapes did you steal that turned out so sour?
The link in his name goes to "californiaopencarry.com", which is a website which is sadly subject to a "geo location" block against browsers where I'm located, so I'd have to actually adjust my VPN settings to look at it.
But from what I understand, there is some kind of deep schism between US advocates of open carry and concealed carry, seemingly along the lines of that which apparently split the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front so many years ago.
(Also, the first two arguments seem to overlook that the CRPA lawyer was arguing within the context of the "in common use" distinction apparently embraced by the court, as opposed to being a flat advocacy of the positions Charles claims here. There may be more context to this, but the video clips he provides elsewhere are limited to that context.)
My position on this remains as follows: Any country in which you need a gun to feel safe is, by definition, a "shithole" country. I have nothing against guns, I like guns, I own guns (not here, of course!), but I cannot deny that needing one to feel safe signifies an egregious failure of government and society to make everyone therein feel safe from crime in their homes and on the streets.
Would "open carry" alleviate that fear, or make it worse?
Cums-a-lot said she owned a gun (like the Sexuality of her running mate, questionable) Sergeant Pepper Waltz bragged about carrying an M-16 (in Italy) for all his faults at least the “2d Gentleman” appears to be hererosexual
Oh, no! Frank is trapped in a grey box and can't get out! I wonder if he said anything sane...
Not so much a deep schism as a minor tactical disagreement in most cases. Nichols is a bit of a crank.
Most 2nd amendment activists understand that, yes, of course it's really a right to open carry, but that concealed carry has advantages, too, such as cops in anti-gun jurisdictions not knowing who to hassle.
That's why we went for concealed carry reform in Michigan, after all, though we were legally an open carry state: Because if you DID open carry in a lot of the state, you'd be accused of "brandishing" if you made your gun obvious, and "illegal conceal" if you didn't. Concealed carry permits in an open carry state rendered that line of attack difficult to pursue.
Makes sense. If Iived in the US I would probably never open carry, but I would consider concealed carry under certain circumstances.
Why let anyone know who to target?
Brett Bellmore,
"Not so much a deep schism as a minor tactical disagreement in most cases. Nichols is a bit of a crank."
I'm well into my 14th year of litigation. I have never argued anything that conflicts with U.S. Supreme Court Second Amendment jurisprudence. The so-called gun-rights groups have argued in support of banning Open Carry, even in states like Maryland, New Jersey, and New York that did not ban Open Carry. And yet that makes me a "crank" in your book. There is an old saying in the United States, "Judge me by who my enemies are." I am exalted by your criticism.
"Most 2nd amendment activists understand that, yes, of course it's really a right to open carry, but that concealed carry has advantages, too, such as cops in anti-gun jurisdictions not knowing who to hassle."
Where are these 2nd Amendment activists?
The concealed carry "advantages" you didn't name, District of Columbia v. Heller did. "Secret advantage and unmanly assassination." The modern term for that is "moral turpitude," and perfectly describes concealed carriers.
ObviouslyNotSpam,
"But from what I understand, there is some kind of deep schism between US advocates of open carry and concealed carry, seemingly along the lines of that which apparently split the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front so many years ago."
Concealed carriers are paranoid, cowardly, depraved degenerates. If Reason allowed video uploads, I would upload a clip of Ted Nugent prancing around at an NRA convention loudly proclaiming those reasons as to why he opposes Open Carry.
"(Also, the first two arguments seem to overlook that the CRPA lawyer was arguing within the context of the "in common use" distinction apparently embraced by the court, as opposed to being a flat advocacy of the positions Charles claims here. There may be more context to this, but the video clips he provides elsewhere are limited to that context.)"
The NRA/CRPA lawyer literally told the en banc panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals that bans on pistol magazines that hold 20+ rounds and bans on magazine bans that hold 30+ rounds are constitutional. The en banc oral argument is free for everyone to view at the 9th CCA Youtube channel. This was not the first time the same NRA/CRPA lawyer said this. She made the same argument a decade ago before a three-judge panel challenging a local gun ban in California. Is that enough context for you?
Yep, hasn't changed a bit.
Stupid Government Tricks, shouldn't you be out trolling for Cub Scouts?
Yep, hasn't changed a bit.
Brett may have been too kind.
But, good luck with your lawsuit, I guess.
I remember him from way back when he got banned from at least one site for being just as obnoxious. His opinions have always been too rigid to accept any possibility of anyone else having anything worthwhile to say.
Stupid Government Tricks,
"I remember him from way back when he got banned from at least one site for being just as obnoxious. His opinions have always been too rigid to accept any possibility of anyone else having anything worthwhile to say."
Far more than one.
Concealed carriers are cowardly, depraved degenerates like you they have nothing worthwhile to say.
Yep, hasn't changed a bit.
"There is a growing trend for courts to uphold restrictions on the basis that the item in question is not an "arm" at all."
Unfortunately, there's also a growing trend for the Supreme court to bless gun control laws, so it's anybody's guess how this challenge will turn out if the Court deigns to take it.
It's such an odd argument. Let's say that the Plaintiffs would have won on the argument that 15 round mags are not only common but standard. If the state tried to ban magazines at 20, 40, or 50 rounds could you finally get to a point where everyone would agree that a magazine that size is not "in common use"?
But what would that tell us? The Second Amendment says 40 but not 50? Where do we get that from? And as I asked in the other thread, how common is common enough? Apparently 176,000 fully automatic weapons are not common enough.
The problem is that the 9th circuit isn't analyzing this as a law that implicates a constitutional right, except as they're forced to. And the Court isn't all that determined to do that forcing.
That is the main problem.
It is an interesting thought experiment. What is someone designed a goofy and impractical 2,000 round magazine that somehow attached to a gun and a state tried to ban it? Would the same argument be made that it is simply a magazine and an integral part of the weapon? I wouldn't think that argument would hold water.
The problem is with the Heller dicta, not the application of it.
You mean, like the Masterson Assault cannon from the Bureau 13 game? (A 45 caliber machine gun with a backpack ammo magazine.)
Strict scrutiny doesn't mean that the government never wins, but it does mean that the government needs something better to justify it's position than, "We felt like drawing an arbitrary line here, with most of the country being on the other side of it."
But we aren't supposed to be using tiers of scrutiny with guns.
What we're not supposed to be doing is using anything short of strict scrutiny, because a constitutional right is implicated. The Bruen majority were tired of the lower courts saying they were doing strict scrutiny, but instead actually doing rational basis and calling it "strict scrutiny", so they gave a short course in how strict scrutiny was supposed to WORK.
Then they committed the same sin themselves with Rahimi, of course, when they didn't like where real strict scrutiny led.
Yes, the take away should be that multiple bullet magazines are common, so any number is allowed. Trying to restrict that is infringement. This isn't a machine gun we're talking about, where one can spray bullets indiscriminately and a large magazine enables that. Of course, that's the ultimate disinformation here, trying to conflate the convenience and utility of semiautomatics with machine guns.
Some may find it satisfying, but reloading is ultimately an inconvenience. That's exactly what gun controllers want to mandate, seeing every firearm users as a potential mass shooter.
Guys, they're just trying to make this Constitutionally protected right/freedom more safe for you. Why can't you see that?
I'm on board. Next, I want to see the number of words used in newspapers, articles, broadcasts, speeches, and podcasts limited as well.
Words are dangerous. Just look at all the lefty domestic terrorists and the carnage they're creating because Dems and the MSM are dog whistling them to do it. This must be addressed! It's obvious that the government has an overriding interest here. Their words need to be severely limited. For all our safety.
What part of “shall not be infringed” do peoples not understand?
The "not" part, obviously.
On the other hand, a large capacity magazine is a very necessary component of a militia - - - - -
BINGO. Well, at least insofar as "militia weapons" go (which I'm not convinced handguns necessarily qualify). If the 2d Amendment has a purpose, it is to prohibit government from hindering the right of the People to keep and bear "militia weapons", not hunting rifles.
DING! Once again someone else correctly says the quiet part out loud. It's confounding that gun grabbers want to restrict ownership "military style" assault weapons, if the primary purpose of the Second Amendment is military militia service. Incoherent.
Miller's reasoning holds that "Militia arms" are protected. The basic weapon of a soldier is the M4, a short barrel rifle with a 30 round magazine. Rifles with 30 round magazines may be dangerous, but they are the most common weapon in the soldiers inventory, and by extension applying to the militia. This also negates the "dangerous AND unusual" reference most commonly used to uphold bans.
I am sort of agnostic about the law at hand, but I have a (sincere) question: part of the argument against the "ghost guns" bruling the other day by pro-gun people was that it is not reasonable to consider frames and gun components to be "arms". I can see that -- arms are completed guns, not components, and so laws that authorize the regulation of arms don't apply to components.
The argument here seems to be, in part, that magazines are "arms" even though they are a component of a gun. And this argument is being made because if magazines are arms, then 2A prohibits this type of regulation. I can see that.
But I can't see both simultaneously. Like, obviously there's a line. I don't know exactly where it is. I just tend to think that if a frame without a receiver is not an arm, then a magazine is not an arm, and if a magazine is an arm, then frame components are arms. Is there a way to reconcile these two positions that isn't clearly ends-means thinking?
I don't think anyone is suggesting that a magazine is an "arm." It clearly is not. However it is a constituent part of an arm without which a complete firearm which is protected by the Second Amendment cannot practically be had.
The Ninth Circuit seems to argue that a since a complete firearm can be had with fewer than 10 rounds in a magazine, then that is good enough. It is hard to see a limiting principle there that wouldn't allow the state to ban everything on a gun down to the most basic thing that makes it go bang.
It would be like allowing printing presses but banning too much ink on the theory that a smaller quantity of ink is enough.
"frame without a receiver"
FWIW, those are synonyms for 'the serialized part'. Frame is normally used for handguns, receiver for long guns. There are no doubt exceptions.
Anyway, if you are going to track guns, some part must be serialized. It's not practical to serialize every spring and nut. So you pick some part. You don't want to pick a part that is a wear item, which excludes the barrel, which otherwise might be an attractive choice. You don't want some tiny part, or one that's hidden when the gun is assembled, because you couldn't apply or read the serial w/o disassembly. You want something that is essential for the gun to function, so e.g. a grip panel is out. Etc, etc.
It boils down to picking some convenient part and calling that the essential part of the gun. I'm not sure that there are deep constitutional principles in play about what part gets the serial number. For example, on AR's it is the lower receiver. On FAL's, it is the upper receiver. Either works.
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As far as 'are magazines a part or an accessory' ... guns that have them won't work properly without one, any more than they would work without a firing pin or barrel.
The quibbling about size isn't a debate about that, it's classic line drawing. If you say line drawing is verboten, then any size is OK. If you draw the line at 'in common use', then it is 8 for 1911's, 30 for AR's, and various numbers for other guns. If you want to be as restrictive as possible, some hunting regs are 2 or 3, I think.
For the common N=10, both of these are true:
A)you can defend yourself with a 10 round magazine
B)you can shoot up a school with a 10 round magazine
The same is true for N=30. There isn't a number that affects those differentially.
Heller said that the "in common use" test (whatever it is) was for the firearm in question, not for a part/accessory to the firearm. I dispute that the common use test is even applicable here.
Could a custom grip be banned because it, by definition, is not in common use?
The ghost gun case wasn't about the Second Amendment or what constitutes an "arm" protected by the 2A; it was a matter of statutory interpretation and whether the rule the ATF adopted was consistent with the statutory delegation (or, as the Supreme Court twisted it, whether there were any situations in which the rule could be consistent with the statute).
The issue (as framed by the Supreme Court majority) was whether it was possible for an unfinished frame or receiver to be close enough to a finished frame or receiver to qualify as a "firearm" under the definition set out in 18 USC 921(a)(3), meaning there was at least one situation where the ATF/s rule would be consistent with the statute.
I think Mr. Halbrook simply hasn’t come to terms with the fact that, although 6 Justices think the 2nd Amendment contains an individual right, only 3 or so of them think that individual right is as expansive as he’d like it to be.
In addition, his objection to drawing a distinction between large and non-large magazines is downright embarrassing. The difference between a magazine that is “large” and “not large” poses the same problem that the ancient Greek philosopher Zeno posed about the difference between “rich” and “not rich.” As Zeno explained, there has to be a boundary somewhere, and at the boundary, the difference becomes a single coin. Justice Holmes famously used the difference between night and day as an example.
The fact that Mr. Halbrook is presenting this problem not only as if he were the first to discuss it, but as if the fact that the boundary can always be be criticized as somewhat arbitrary represents an insurmountable “aha I got you there” objection whenever the law splits a contiuum into categories, hardly reinforces his credibility as a reliable narrator. Or a serious thinker.
"I think Mr. Halbrook simply hasn’t come to terms with the fact that, although 6 Justices think the 2nd Amendment contains an individual right, only 3 or so of them think that individual right is as expansive as he’d like it to be."
Then those three should have dissented in Bruen. Bruen discounts the deference that the three are giving to gun control laws.