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Luttig: "A rebuke from the nation's highest court … could well cripple Mr. Trump's presidency and tarnish his legacy"
No, this fight will not end well for the courts.
Former-Judge Luttig wrote a guest essay in the New York Times, titled "It's Trump vs. the Courts, and It Won't End Well for Trump." The essay concludes with these two paragraphs:
If the president oversteps his authority in his dispute with Judge Boasberg, the Supreme Court will step in and assert its undisputed constitutional power "to say what the law is." A rebuke from the nation's highest court in his wished-for war with the nation's federal courts could well cripple Mr. Trump's presidency and tarnish his legacy.
And Chief Justice Marshall's assertion that it is the duty of the courts to say what the law is will be the last word.
I think every sentence is demonstrably incorrect. First, the Court has no power to "assert" its own authority. The Court lacks the power of the sword or purse.
Second, I can say with a high degree of certainty that a "rebuke" from the Supreme Court would do little to "cripple Mr. Trump's presidency and tarnish his legacy." As for the "legacy," if two impeachment trials, an alleged insurrection, and federal and state indictments didn't keep him out of the White House, then a few pages in the U.S. Reports will hardly leave a mark. By contrast, I think such a feeble effort to control Trump very well could "cripple" the Supreme Court.
Third, Luttig tries to invoke Marbury, but in that case Chief Justice Marshall had the good sense to not assert any authority against Jefferson. The Court did not order the Jefferson Administration to deliver the commission, as such an order would likely be ignored. Likewise, Marshall never ordered President Jackson to do anything. Marbury teaches the judiciary to avoid unwinnable conflicts with the President.
Let me try to put this conflict in perspective. Donald Trump was able to roll over Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and every other politician that stood in his path. Does anyone think John Roberts can do better? Does anyone think Roberts's press statement to respond to Trump's social media post even moved the needle? Op-eds like this from people like Luttig likely give the Chief some faint echoes of praise within his echo chamber, but will not register beyond the Capital District. (I think Texas would be considered District 12.)
I'll repeat what I wrote last week:
The Constitutional Crisis is a coin with two sides. Trump causes judges to overact, and judges cause Trump to overreact. Any resolution must be bilateral, not unilateral. Roberts could de-escalate the situation by promptly reversing some of these out-of-control lower court rulings. But instead, he would rather sit on his hands and pontificate. I've long said that the Chief Justice is living in a different reality than the rest of us. This episode proves it. There are three co-equal branches of government; the judiciary is not supreme.
Chief Justice Marshall had the good sense to avoid a confrontation with Presidents Jefferson and Jackson. But Roberts apparently thinks this sort of statement will make everything better. But every time Roberts puts pen to paper to avoid some perceived catastrophe, he usually invites an even greater one down the road. This is a lesson he has not learned during his tenure.
I think Roberts's decision to punt on the USAID case will come to be a defining moment of his Chief Justiceship, and not in a good way. Roberts may not see that, but I hope Justice Barrett will.
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They'll be Nuremberg-style trials for all the seditious traitors after all this is over, Blackman. You'll be on the list
Fall on your head? You should seek medical attention.
Careful, Bob. After the revolution comrade hobie will have you shipped to the gulag.
I hope they stop at the blog posts, and don't go into the comments.
But really Hobie, what will happen if Trump has a confrontation with the courts over nationwide injunctions, unappealable TRO's, and whether the executive power allows the President to fire at will?
Will the House impeach him?
Will the DOJ indict him?
There isn't any doubt that if Congress sides with the Supreme Court then they can constrain Trump.
But if Congress sides with Trump or sits on his hands, then the courts are a paper tiger.
That was Hobie's point, I believe.
Chief Justice Roberts pointed the way; Appeals Courts. What a POTUS Trump could insist upon is expediting arguments. After 50 or so, the Appeals Courts will tire of the exercise.
I just want to see injunction bonds being posted.
Exactly.
He can ask; he cannot "insist."
He could declare a national emergency and ship all of Schumer's 235 judges down to GITMO. And David NoMind as well.
The sad truth is that your idea might be (or be to close for comfort to) Trump's ideas. So SCOTUS should take decisive and powerful action to prove Luttig right and Blackman wrong.
Trump's absurd purported constructions of our Constitution are obviously false and extremely dangerous to the primary purposes of our Constitution, i.e., to "establish Justice" and "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."
The Framers envisioned Congress acting far more like the Second Continental Congress (and Parliament) than our Congress does or has. They repeatedly explicitly emphasized that they expected our nation (and they framed our Constitution and constructed our national government) to be led by Congress, not the executive. They emphasized that the duty of judges and the president was largely to fill in the interstices, the gaps left in or by existing legislation.
As Madison emphasized in The Federalist No. 48, the Framers expected "[t]he legislative department" to be "everywhere extending the sphere of its activity, and drawing all power into its impetuous vortex" (but they "never for a moment [ ] turned their eyes from the danger to liberty from the overgrown and all-grasping prerogative" of an executive "magistrate"). The Framers expected "the legislative power" which "is exercised by an assembly, which is inspired, by a supposed influence over the people," to have "an intrepid confidence in its own strength." The Framers expected "[t]he legislative department" to possess "a superiority in our governments" which it "derives" from its "constitutional powers," which are "at once more extensive, and less susceptible of precise limits" than the powers of the executive and judicial branches.
The Framers and ratifiers of our Constitution (the people) vested in Congress the power and duty to "make all Laws" that are "necessary and proper for carrying into Execution" absolutely "all" the "Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." For good reason (and often with dispositive effect), the Framers and ratifiers of our Constitution imposed on the president the duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."
The crucial restraint imposed on Congress (that actions be both "necessary and proper") exactly mirrors the restrains imposed in the First Amendment. They both govern the conduct of all public servants in all branches of government. The president can and must take all (and only) actions that are both necessary and proper to "preserve, protect and defend" our "Constitution." That obviously and necessarily extends to the duty to "preserve, protect and defend" the people. That crucial constraint (necessary and proper) also limits the president's powers to purport to "preserve, protect and defend" our nation, e.g., from an imaginary Venezuelan invasion.
Pretty, pretty words. However, I believe if the Founders were sitting at a table right now, talking to us about the state of the current Congress, they would say..."How on God's green earth did you let the aristocracy take over and run Congress?!"
He should respond to Roberts with a letter signed by exactly 34 senators.
He should respond with a veiled threat to seek some delta force guys on them. I've met a few of them. They're hardcore right wing, and they think liberals are traitors.
"He should respond with a veiled threat to seek some delta force guys on them. I've met a few of them. They're hardcore right wing, and they think liberals are traitors."
Please comment here more often, psycho.
We need a replacement Village Idiot while Mr. Bumble and Dr. Ed are observing Lent.
(They're just such super Christians ya know)
I'm pretty sure this is just one of our regular three/four Nazis just using a different username.
Speaking of Nazis, I thought I blocked you David NoMind.
What BrotherMovesHisBowels doesn't understand is he won't like it if Trump loses. We may have more than just the 250th Anniversary coming up this spring.
Truckers strike take 3!
Kazinski : There isn't any doubt that if Congress sides with the Supreme Court then they can constrain Trump. But if Congress sides with Trump or sits on his hands, then the courts are a paper tiger.
Which really comes down to public opinion. Collins and Murkowski depend on centre left voters to get elected, so they're easy to get on the anti-Trump side. But the other 51 are toast if they go after a Trump that remains popular with the base. Toast - that is - if they haven't already decided to retire (hence Mitch.) In which case a sinecure would be nice, but a sinecure from the Swamp is at least three and a half years off.
Roberts will follow the crowd, so SCOTUS will come out heavily anti-Trump only when the crowd deserts him. Otherwise Roberts will deal out decisions for and against Trump on a one for one basis, preferably 1-1 announced in a matching pair each day, to avoid "SCOTUS backs Trump" or "SCOTUS scolds Trump" headlines.
Sad that there are so few actual judges on the Supreme Court.
I think you are off base here, although it depends on the specific issue of course.
Of Trump defies a court order about deporting alien gang members I don't think it will play poorly with the voters.
Same with transgender in the military, or women's sports, which are also 80-20 issues.
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The last word rests with the (currently) republican legislature.
One bill can eliminate the lower courts entirely, or anything less congress desires.
The bill currently wandering around committees restricting district courts to being district courts is a minimum.
Under any system of governance, somebody has to have the last word to determine what the law is, and up until Trump took office it was understood that that was the job of the courts. Baseball needs umpires, basketball needs referees, and the US government needs judges. And of course the people on the losing side usually don't like it, but also until Trump took office it was generally understood that that was beside the point. And of course, that judges say what the law is doesn't mean Congress can't then change the law.
So, I'd like to know what Trump and his supporters are proposing exactly:
That any president (including the next Democrat once there's another Democrat in the White House) can simply ignore the courts? Is that a power you would have granted Obama or Biden?
That only Republican presidents can simply ignore the courts? Because that's sure what it's starting to sound like.
That the power to determine what the law is lies with both executive and judicial? In which case, how does the conflict get resolved when there is a dispute between the two branches?
And what I find most worrisome about this is that except for certain crank commenters on blogs, I haven't heard any real serious argument that Trump, in fact, has not been breaking the law. So maybe the real solution would be for him to *stop breaking the law*. But no, that would be asking for too much, so instead the proposed solution is that nobody be in a position to stop him from breaking the law.
This is sounding less and less like constitutional government by the day.
The problem is that courts have lost their legitimacy. When any lawyer can pick a venue who will rule against Biden or Trump, as the circumstances require, people see it as friends picking their favorites.
You think THAT is a legitimate constitutional government? I think what needs to happen is not outright revolt against the courts, but for the courts, especially the Supreme Court, to realize the tenuous position that they are in and not to take such an active role in what is legitimately a political decision. When you guys get the White House, do your left wing stuff. We can do our right wing stuff now.
One simple federal judge should not have all of that power. A president elected by the country should.
When you guys get the White House, do your left wing stuff. We can do our right wing stuff now.
There are some limits, right?
Those limits definitely shouldn't defined by your side.
It shouldn't be about "sides". It should be about having the same rules fairly and evenhandedly applied no matter which side is in power. And not going after people who are doing their jobs by enforcing the rules.
If you don't like the law, get Congress to change it. But don't attack judges who are simply enforcing the laws Congress wrote.
Let's not be obtuse. The "rules" are clearly not the same for Republicans and Democrat politicians.
Judges are human and have biases.
Clearly.
So why are so many *Republican* judges ruling against Trump? If it were only Democratic appointees you might have a point.
Because they were never Republicans.
I said bias, not ideology.
The problem is that those on my side don't believe that any of these rulings against Trump are even particularly close calls so far as the judiciary are concerned.
I can see no reasonable basis how a court can tell a president that he cannot deport criminal illegal aliens on the fast track or cannot decide how to spend funds that the executive has discretion to spend. These aren't real judicial decisions but are "let's fight back against Trump" decisions that are made by terribly biased judges.
It isn't a matter of getting Congress to change the law because under your view of judicial power, the courts can override Congress as well as the President by finding some pretend constitutional right that makes the new law unconstitutional. It's that we don't agree that it is even a close call that Trump is defying the will of Congress or the letter of the law.
And to say that the courts get to say what the law is is no answer. Clearly everyone who has responded in similar threads have said that if courts did someone really crazy like forbidding Trump from vetoing a bill or bombing a foreign country that would be a lawless order. My belief is that the President doesn't have to obey that ruling for 14 days or 14 seconds. The ruling is absolutely void because the judge who issued it is powerless to make such a ruling.
Imagine if in 2030 a judge tells President Harris that she must discharge all LGBTQ members from the armed forces. Are we going to see that order obeyed subject to their possible reinstatement after the order is appealed? Is it that you see that order as really bad but these orders not so bad?
You, a supposed attorney, are positing a vast conspiracy of judges all ruling in bad faith against Trump.
Based on facts as of yet unestablished.
To the point that the cure you suggest is disobeying court orders, not appealing them.
It's not a great thing to be against the rule of law as a lawyer.
Imagine if in 2030 President AOC declares you are a Russian agent and to be deported there immediately. Any chance you might want those facts checked out, or you cool with trusting the administration?
"I can see no reasonable basis how a court can tell a president that he cannot deport criminal illegal aliens on the fast track or cannot decide how to spend funds that the executive has discretion to spend."
Your premises are wrong. The courts are not telling the president that he cannot deport criminal illegal aliens on the fast track; they are telling him that he has to afford due process in effecting the proposed deportations. SCOTUS has expressly rejected the contention that aliens within our borders are not subject to constitutional due process and equal protection guaranties:
Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 210 (1982). The Court there elaborated:
457 U.S. at 212 (italics supplied in Pyler).
Neither are the courts telling the president that he cannot decide how to spend funds that the executive has discretion to spend. The Constitution confers such discretion on the Congress, not on the executive branch. The Constitution exclusively grants the power of the purse to Congress, not the President. U.S. Const. art. I, § 9, cl. 7 (Appropriations Clause); U.S. Const. art. I, § 8, cl. 1 (Spending Clause).
Congress's power to spend is directly linked to its power to legislate. "Incident to the spending power, Congress may attach conditions on the receipt of federal funds, and has repeatedly employed the power `to further broad policy objectives by conditioning receipt of federal moneys upon compliance by the recipient with federal statutory and administrative directives.'" South Dakota v. Dole, 483 U.S. 203, 206-07 (1987), quoting Fullilove v. Klutznick, 448 U.S. 448, 474, (1980).
As the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has opined:
City and County of San Francisco v. Trump, 897 F.3d 1225, 1232 (9th Cir. 2018). Then-Judge Kavanaugh wrote for the D.C. Circuit in Aiken County:
725 F.3d at 261 n.1 (D.C. Cir. 2013).
Were there limits for Obama?
Were there limits for Biden?
Yes.
(All together now: This has been yet another episode of Simple Answers to Stupid Questions.)
So Obama and Biden were super cool and not lawless at all - just doing what the people wanted?
I'm not sure you thought this through.
Sure. Many overcome their biases and many don’t. But we all should be careful to not assess that distinction from the lens of our own bias.
Due process is a constitutional requirement. It's not just some "political decision."
You think THAT is a legitimate constitutional government? I think what needs to happen is not outright revolt against the courts, but for the courts, especially the Supreme Court, to realize the tenuous position that they are in and not to take such an active role in what is legitimately a political decision.
wvattorney13 — You seem to have no notion what a legitimate political decision looks like.
He's accommodated every judicial TRO so far.
That's how he's not breaking the law. Further a judge's TRO is not really even "the law".
So given those basic facts, which I'm sure you are not aware of, Trump hasn't broken any law.
He’s interpreting them as narrowly as he can and rolling on. Hardly a constitutional crisis, even it does anger some judges. They can be remarkably easy to anger.
"Further a judge's TRO is not really even 'the law'."
Is that as true as everything else you have said, Magnus Pilatus, MBA, MD, JD, PhDx2?
In addition to that claim being wrong, it's also wrongheaded at the start. "Johnny wasn't cheating because he stopped glancing over at his classmate's answer sheet as soon as the teacher said, 'Johnny, keep your eyes on your own paper!'" Lawbreaking likely occurred before the TRO issued; that's the whole premise underlying the TRO.
While you are right that it is up to the courts to say what the law is, it can not be through 670 district court judges with direct supervisory power over the presidency.
I posted this last week:
"The solution really needs to be the Judiciary needs to police its own.
Whether its a Texas, DC, or Hawaiian judges issuing nationwide TRO's, there needs to be a systematic response from the circuits, or the Supreme Court to rein them in.
Randy Barnett points out from 1903 to 1976 it required 3 judge panels to decide the constitutionality of federal or state statutes or executive orders. Reinstating that and also requiring 3 judge panels for nationwide TRO's would be a good start, which would not prevent them from providing relief to the parties, but only if warranted, and within traditional bounds (like money damages for illegal firings, not immediate reinstatement).
There is a real risk here to our legal and political system with Judges overstepping their powers and just being ignored. After all the President isn't getting arrested or impeached if he sends out another 10 planes of gang members, contrary to the orders of a single district judge. But a three judge panel would carry more weight, and would encourage more restraint on both sides."
And that's why we have courts of appeal. So that if one of the 670 district judges goes off the reservation, a higher court can rein them in. But so far Trump hasn't been doing so well at the appellate courts either.
"And of course the people on the losing side usually don't like it, but also until Trump took office it was generally understood that that was beside the point."
Really?
WSJ:
American Presidents may not like Supreme Court decisions, but most since Andrew Jackson haven’t bragged about defying its rulings. Not even Donald Trump. Then there’s President Biden, who, while canceling more student debt this week, boasted about ignoring the Supreme Court’s landmark 2023 ruling that his previous loan forgiveness plan was illegal.
Speaking in Culver City, Calif., on Wednesday, Mr. Biden said his original plan to “provide millions of working families with debt relief for their college student debt” was derailed by “MAGA Republicans” and “special interests” who challenged the plan in court. “The Supreme Court blocked it,” Mr. Biden added, “but that didn’t stop me.” He apparently thinks defying the law is a virtue.
On Wednesday Mr. Biden wrote off another $1.2 billion in student-loan debt, bringing the total amount he has canceled to some $138 billion. That’s not as much as the $400 billion debt cancellation a 6-3 Supreme Court majority struck down last summer, but it’s still a handout to 3.9 million borrowers.
He’s not really cancelling anything because he’s transferring the debt from the borrowers it benefited to the taxpayers who will finance it with higher taxes or interest payments on the rising national debt.
Really.
The WSJ is lying to you. Biden did not defy the Supreme Court. He tried to do something one way, the Court said that he wasn't authorized to do that, so he tried to accomplish the same goal a different way that the Court hadn't ruled on.
"Let me try to put this conflict in perspective. Donald Trump was able to roll over Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and every other politician that stood in his path. Does anyone think John Roberts can do better?"
Wrong analysis, I think. I acknowledge Trump's legitimacy as president because he won the election, not because he is more of a strong man than Jeb/Hillary/Kamala[1]. But that legitimacy flows from the constitution. If Trump strays outside those lines - and he is sure is putting a toe on them - then he loses that legitimacy. We are going to continue to have regular elections, and abide by the results, whether Trump likes it or not.
For me this isn't a 'do or don't I like Trump's policies' thing - as with most politicians, some I like and some I don't. It is a 'we are going to stick with the Constitution' thing.
[1]unless I'm mistaken, Biden won his election against Trump
Should judges stay within their constitutional "lines"? ( I would prefer "lane" but whatever). Do you have any issue with federal judges improperly using their power to intrude on executive prerogatives?
The US Constitution largely leaves it up to Judges to decide when they are exceeding their authority, and so for I've seen no real evidence that they are exceeding their authority.
On the contrary, it's clear that Trump has gone well beyond the bounds of his constitutionally granted authority.
clear!
That isn't 'clear' at all.
So much for the constitution, "myself." "Cases and Controversies" under Art. III, sec. 2? F that, the federal courts can decide that the judicial power extends over everything, even matters committed to other branches. You might want to give that a little more thought.
It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is.
That emphatically does not mean that there are no constitutional limits on judicial power.
So says the judicial department. I'm not sure why more people don't see the issue with that statement, made by the very group demanding absolute power.
Trump doesn't claim absolute power, but the Supreme Court does subject only to it generously refraining from using its power in a way it deems to exceed its own set proper bounds. That should be troubling to everyone.
Proper bounds for the Supreme Court's power are for the jointly sovereign People to decide at pleasure. They have done that fairly well, with room for improvement still available.
Current problems relating to Court power are not inherent in the existing system. They result from disregard of an existing system too little equipped with means to punish disregard.
That leaves the ongoing governance crisis a matter for Congress to correct, by means such as a law to punish oath breaking, or enforceable standards governing Supreme Court ethics. Those failing—and they seem likely to fail—the present emergency becomes a matter for the People themselves to revisit, either Constitutionally, or by demonstrations so emphatic they cannot be ignored.
Given the speed with which this Constitutional crisis is developing, it may be that only the demonstrations remain as practical choices for now. Of course, no one can predict what might result. There would be not only demonstrations, but also counter-demonstrations.
And do you have any issue with the president improperly using his power to intrude on congressional or judicial perogatives?
Part of any president's job description is to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. Article II, § 3 of the Constitution so commands. Donald Trump has shown that he is determined not to do that.
As Tennessee's former governor and House speaker Ned Ray McWherter was fond of saying to recalcitrant legislators, if you didn't want to work, you shouldn't have hired out.
not guilty 28 minutes ago
"Part of any president's job description is to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. Article II, § 3 of the Constitution so commands."
Curious why you defended Biden doing the same?
Curious why you think whattaboutism is good argument?
Because it undermines the theory that the action is a substantial deviation from in effect conventions.
Well, they're "living laws" like our "living Constitution"—their interpretation shifts with the times. Just as the Constitution adapts to new societal realities through evolving judicial perspectives, Congressional laws remain dynamic, responding to changes like technological advancements or shifting cultural values, ensuring they stay relevant without losing their core purpose.
Is it part of the job of the federal judiciary to respect constitutional limits on the exercise of judicial power? Don't know if any Tennessee governor opined on that topic, and I don't give a shit if they did for that matter.
Ah, Ned Ray McWhorter, the man who as speaker of the house once used physical force from the sergeant of arms to keep republicans in the state legislature from leaving the building so there would be a quorum. That allowed democrats to force their redistricting plan through. It kept the democrats in control of Tennessee's legislature for decades.
I think Josh is saying that Trump can disobey the Court, and it's up to the Court to make sure it doesn't get on his wrong side. No matter what Trump does.
I don't think any Con Law professor who was active when I took that course in 1990 would agree with this, but that appears to be what Josh is saying.
President Trump should ignore any "order" that grossly exceeds the scope of judicial power. Like one that purports to command the flight of US aircraft engaged in a national security mission overseas.
There was no national security mission, you lunatic. They sent a few alleged drug dealers or people with Hispanic sounding names to another country.
Not actually something a federal judge has the power to decide crazy Dave.
It is unnecessary for a federal judge to decide whether this involved national security — it didn't, but a judge need not decide that — because nothing in the constitution says that the words "national security" are a magic incantation that lets the president ignore the constitution or the law. Youngstown Sheet & Tube. Boumediene v. Bush. Rasul v. Bush. Ex Parte Milligan. Hamdi v. Rumsfeld. Hamdan v. Rumsfeld. Courts decide cases involving "national security" all the time.
Youngstown Sheet and Tube company was not engaged in an overseas national security mission.
And you’re right, federal judges cannot ignore the law and the highest law is the constitution, which precludes them from interfering with executive prerogatives.
The executive has no prerogatives, other than pardons and vetoes; otherwise, he's just supposed to do what Congress and the courts tell him.
Is that what Lincoln did? Jackson? Washington? Even the Big Guy? Almost sacrilegious to mention Biden among such presidents when his overreach was largely corrupt and ill-advised (at least if one intended to benefit the country) but he certainly wasn't doing "what Congress and the courts" told him to do.
Very simplistic, and very wrong. Not though surprising coming from a leftist like Nieporent.
You would suggest there that any one of the 677 (authorized) unelected Article III federal district court judges has the power to micromanage the discretion of the nationally elected Article II President, with his plenary Executive, Commander in Chief, Treaty, etc powers. Because that is exactly what is under discussion here - the extent that one of these (up to 677) unelected judges can issue nationwide unappealable stays, TROs, and Preliminary Injunctions stopping the President from exercising his powers. Come back to us when President Trump defies the only court specifically mentioned in Article III - the Supreme Court.
Are you sure you were ever a lawyer? Injunctions are not unappealable. And of course the very question is whether the president is exercising "his powers" or doing something illegal.
Article III, § 1:
The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.
Sure, but that was during the Bush Sr presidency. Everything was (D)ifferent when Clinton and Obama were in office, as exemplified by the individual shared responsibility mandate penalty tax assessment/abatement. The same (D)ynamic obtained during FDR's regime.
This isn't even good whattaboutism.
Put some effort in it, Michael.
Of all the comments on this board, you choose to swoop in to finger wag this one.
lmao, why are you still employed? DOGE must not have gotten my reports.
How does the saying go ... "the hit dog yelps"?
"I think Josh is saying that Trump can disobey the Court, and it's up to the Court to make sure it doesn't get on his wrong side."
...or that the Court doesn't get it wrong?
That is what Blackman is saying. He's saying the court has no power, while Trump does.
So, the Court must bend its determination of what the law is to match Trump's, and not the other way around. If the court does this, the "system" will endure. If the court cannot find a way to align with Trump's determination of the law, the court is over.
That appears to be what Blackman is saying. The court must bend to Trump, and if it doesn't, Trump should not bend to the court. Blackman is against Judicial Supremacy. He's apparently for Executive Supremacy. At least when the Executive is led by a "conservative".
It is (as I pointed out) a sharp departure from longstanding Constitutional law, but also it advocates a sharp break with our history of Presidents deferring to the Court. Over the last 200+ years there have been many examples of the Court issuing opinions a President didn't agree with, and the President nonetheless abiding by them -- and often on issues far more important than now. In fact there are no counter-examples, unless you cite Merryman, which wasn't really a Supreme Court decision.
Josh Blackman has previously asserted that Cooper v. Aaron, 358 U.S. 1 (1958), was wrongly decided. Governor Orval Faubus's conduct was wrong in the days of "massive resistance," just as President Donald Trump's hissy fit is wrong now.
Given your name, the only thing you should be doing is stuffing your face with pasta and mozzarella. Stupid greaseball
No where in the Constitution does it say the branches are "co-equal".
Roberts trying to play politics and ruling for Trump to try to de-escalate the situation will make things worse. Each case must be decided individually based on the law.
At this point only the Republicans in Congress have the ability to stop Trump. And they never will.
What constitution are you referring to? Because it certainly isn't the governing document of the United States.
You think that the U.S. Constitution says the branches are co-equal?
It also doesn’t explicitly say there are three branches. But yet, there are. It is equally obvious that the powers granted each branch are of equal dignity and can be denied or encroached upon by the others only to the extent permitted by and within the document itself.
I would toss in a "wrongly" in there somewhere to recognize the concept of checks and balances.
The branches are not, in fact, "coequal." I was reminded of this by a comment somebody posted here the other day with some links. Here it is: https://reason.com/volokh/2025/03/18/chief-justice-roberts-speaks/?comments=true#comment-10964168
Mike P, if you read the history of the constitution, you'll note the balance of power pitting ambition against ambition, was captured in the order of the three major Articles.
• Article I's Legislative branch was to be considered first among equals.
• Article II's Executive, intended to be weaker than it is today, was subject to substantial constraints of Congress, with little of the reverse.
• Article III's Judiciary, also was intended to be weaker than it is today, with anything beyond SCOTUS to be directed by Congress.
[turns around and scans bookshelves, hmmm...], In addition to the the Federalist Papers of course (I have The Federalist Papers: A Reader's Guide, by Kyle Scott, out of print but available on Kindle), I recommend the interesting, neutral, overview, The Constitutional Convention from the notes of James Madison, by Larson and Winship (Random House, ISBN 9780812975178. Less comprehensive than some, but more readable.)
Since the 1980's,with knowledge of where unrestrained Nixon would have gone and regardless of which Party held the office, I've advocated for:
• A more constrained Chief Executive, primarily by Congress reclaiming some of its voluntarily relinquished authority.
• Congressional reform reducing the number of legislative veto points (including the filibuster) to leave them a little more free to exert their constitutional powers.
• SCOTUS staggered 18-year term limits, helping return the rate the Court evolves closer to the the rate of society's evolution when lifespans were shorter (took this up in the 90's).
Yes of course, and all of that is consistent with my comment. And fwiw I enthusiastically agree with your first recommendation, reservedly agree with the second, and am ambivalent about the third. As for first among equals, I’m convinced that while the Framers assumed judicial review, they did not anticipate its potential activist implications. Hence the rather clunky and limited checks on the judiciary.
"• A more constrained Chief Executive, primarily by Congress reclaiming some of its voluntarily relinquished authority."
Conservatives have been arguing for this for years. Trump is arguing for it and putting it into action with initiatives like closing the Department of Education.
The only way Congress can constrain the power of the Chief Executive is to constrain the power and scope of the executive branch.
Trump is literally doing exactly the opposite. "A more constrained Chief Executive" and "initiatives" are not congruous. Congress did not ask his opinion about whether there should be a Department of Education.
Roosevelt went much further than Nixon ever threatened to.
My very first vote Presidential vote was 1972, for Nixon (first time 18-year-olds were eligible to vote). I've been trying to make up for it ever since.
Didn't have as much invested in FDR, though I'm familiar with the legends that still obsess so many.
Purple Martin: Good post, good points, right-minded by me.
That's the whole point of checks and balances you imbecilic clown. (somewhat redundant but merited in your case)
Not the first TDS deranged rant from Luttig and I'm sure he's got more in him.
I don't admire Judge Luttig's ideology, but he is a person of high integrity. Josh Blackman (who has argued heretofore that Cooper v. Aaron, 358 U.S. 1 (1958), was wrongly decided) is not fit to carry Luttig's briefcase -- nor even to shine his shoes.
I guess that insult would apply to Lincoln too.
I agree that Prof. Blackman is also not fit to carry Lincoln’s briefcase.
He wrote an amicus brief supporting New York's carry law that was ultimately struck down in Bruen. No person with integrity would or could support that law. Thus, Luttig is not a person of integrity. He's a pathetic, weak cowardly man.
I was wondering how Luttig was doing.
His whole op-ed is worth reading.
I think Luttig is in part speaking on what he thinks should happen. It is also an appeal to the judiciary and the people.
I acknowledge the fact that Roberts, who wrote Trump v. U.S. after delaying it until the last possible day is not likely to "rebuke" Trump in a way that will "cripple Mr. Trump’s presidency." As to "tarnishing his legacy," it is quite tarnished already.
Judges are not "causing" Trump to overact. This touches upon the mentality of our host.
Luttig has never gotten over his SCOTUS snub. Sad.
Do you have any substantive arguments to contribute?
Who made you the comment policeman?
If you are, why don't you police hobie. Nuremberg trials, really
Luttig is just a cranky, predictable old man. He just writes variations of "Trump sucks" now. I think its because he was passed over for SCOTUS, fortunately for us.
I was just wondering.
Now I guess I know the answer.
Apparently Luttig is as predictable as Tribe.
Yes, but he fell further. Once a time he was a decent establishment conservative.
He still is. That's why he dislikes Trump so much.
I dislike Trump too. I've never voted for him. I find derangement like Luttig's exhausting, even as I oppose many things Trump does and therefore occasionally agree with people like Luttig about that.
Anyone claiming to be a conservative should not object when Trump accidentally (or otherwise) does something conservative. That's the problem with the Bill Kristol's of the world, and often Luttig too. They often now oppose what they used to support, just because Trump does it or agrees with it.
How things are done are as important as what is done.
So you think that he holds it against Trump that Bush "snubbed" him from SCOTUS? That's certainly a stupid take worthy of Josh Blackman.
Substantive like this?
This isn't even good whattaboutism.
Put some effort in it, Sarcastr0.
Luttig is now just another stupid Trump hater. Trump has a long history in the courts, and has won and lost many cases. One more case will not make much difference.
The Roberts Court did what the founders of this country feared the most: it crowned a King. That King has tossed aside the Constitution, and it's unlikely to be restored. It was a grand experiment that lasted almost 250 years. Historians of the 21st century will report how the Roberts Court dismantled democracy. First was Citizens United, which put the government up for sale. Then there was Doe, which effectively repealed the 14th Amendment and allowed the states to deny equal rights to women (and allowed them to impose a religious belief upon women). Congress aided and abetted by consistently failing to do their job for the past 50 years. [Example: if Congress had done its job, Social Security taxes would be assessed on incomes up to $1.3 million (in keeping with inflation), and the trust funds would be solvent.]
Slo then publishing movies about political candidates harms democracy?
Would you mind translating that into English, Michael?
I think this is the key paragraph:
If Mr. Trump continues to attempt to usurp the authority of the courts, the battle will be joined, and it will be up to the Supreme Court, Congress and the American people to step forward and say: Enough. As the Declaration of Independence said, referring to King George III of Britain, “A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”
Marbury v. Madison: “It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is.”
It is also emphatically the province and duty of the Congress and people to answer Trump. As someone of note once said, "Ambition counteracts ambition." The courts have limited powers.
Chief Justice Marshall used the voice and power he had available. Judicial review was a more limited power in his generation.
Multiple historians of antebellum constitutionalism remind us that the meaning of the Constitution was largely in the hands of states, the federal government, and the people themselves.
Luttig is thinking like a judge saying "the last word" will come from the courts. Our host is correct to the degree that the courts have limited power. The courts can't save us by themselves.
“It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is.”
But it is emphatically not the province of 670 district court judges to supervise the day to day decisions of the executive branch.
Please.
There, fixed that for you. The irredeemable tarnish of Trump's legacy—his War Against America— is already permanently fixed. The additional layers applied by Russ Vought's Project 2025 war plans as carried out by Elon Musk's Blitzkrieg teenage shock troops can, only a little, deepen it.
Over the centuries, over millennia, the history of human civilization is that it slowly but demonstrably evolves. It matures, improves, and ultimately, advances. Such progress is not smooth; it happens in fits and starts with substantial periods of backsliding, of devolution.
American and global recovery from chaotic, authoritarian, Trumpist MAGAism will take decades (if it happens at all—no sure thing). And his legacy will be —a purposefully pursued period of decivilization: Trump Interregnum—a choice for smallness and pettiness; a choice against seriousness, against responsibility, against a role of which we should be proud; a choice against American greatness.
History's view will place the American Trump Interregnum of the 21st century, to the 20th century Chinese cultural revolution known as Mao’s Great Leap Forward: two of the worst periods of a major nation’s intentionally-pursued reversal of societal progress—of purposeful devolution—in the history of humanity.
What many here seem to have missed is that these district court judges have gotten well out of their lane, with their rulings against the Trump Administration. One told SecDef Hegseth that he couldn’t ban transsexuals in the military. He had done so, on the grounds that the medications that they require to maintain their transgendered status make them permanently undeployable, and all military personnel need to be deployable (with the exception of temporary undeployability, in cases such as pregnancy). He wasn’t making new policy, really, but instead closing a loophole. Asthma will get you out too. The judge was, essentially, telling the SecDef that he should cater to the desires of a small number of military members, just because they are currently popular with Dem politicians (and judges), reducing the effectiveness of the military as a result. The military is famous for sending people where they want to, for the convenience of the service. And the judge is ordering them to not do this for transgendered.
One of the core powers and responsibilities of the President is as the Commander in Chief of the military. Former generals Washington, Grant, and Eisenhower, are likely rolling over in their graves over this intrusion into the efficient and effective operation of our military by the Judiciary. Hegseth responded publicly to the judge:
“Since ‘Judge’ Reyes is now a top military planner, she/they can report to Fort Benning at 0600 to instruct our Army Rangers on how to execute High Value Target Raids…after that, Commander Reyes can dispatch to Fort Bragg to train our Green Berets on counterinsurgency warfare,”
The judge, of course, ordered him to retract that. The judge claims that the policy might infringe the civil rights of those impacted, ignoring that the military is essentially exempt from those laws in many case, when those rights come in opposition to operational needs of the military. Esp now, with an all volunteer military, where its members have all voluntarily given up these rights in order to serve. Corporal Klinger, presumably a draftee, could wear women’s clothes in order to get out of the service, or at least a combat zone. But these transgendered service members voluntarily gave up the rights that the judge wants to protect.
Hegseth isn’t the one who made the decision, Trump is. And he didn’t cite undeployability as the basis for that decision. Otherwise than that, great comment!
(I think Judge Reyes got this one wrong, and think the EO is both lawful and good policy. Lying about it doesn’t help.)
Do you seriously think its wise to have someone suffering from the transgender mental illness serving in the military.
Well,
Sonja_TJoe_dallas, did you try reading my comment? Like the part that says:?
Admittedly, you have to read four whole sentences to get there. But I believe in you!
“Hegseth isn’t the one who made the decision, Trump is.”
Article II, § 2, ¶ 1: “The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States…” Not the judge of an inferior court - but the President.
Okay? Is that supposed to make your original claims any less false?
Article I, § 8, ¶ 14: "The Congress shall have Power… To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;" Not the president… but the Congress.
(Strangely, MAGA did not seem to have any objection when a rando judge from the 5th circuit told Biden that he couldn't discharge members of the military who refused to get vaccinated, or even take it into consideration in deciding whether and how to deploy them.)
Nope. Think of it this way. Congress has the power to draw lines, and the Executive operates within those. But esp with the military, most of the regulations that they live under are imposed by the DoD, etc - essentially by the Executive. Think of it this way - if Congress had enacted a statute that required that the DoD allow transgendered to continue to serve, regardless of their undeployability, then the DOJ would have to conform to that law. But they didn’t. Instead, they left that decision to the Executive (SecDef here). And he determined that the previous waiver for transgendered to the 12 month undeployability rule was bad for the services, reducing preparedness. As I said, if Congress wants transgendered in the military, they just have to require the DoD not to discharge them. They haven’t, and until we get a Dem Congress (and President) again, they won’t. Until then, it’s up to SecDef and his chain of command, to make this determination.
Congress doesn’t want the day-to-day operation of the military. They have so many other things to do. And the last thing that we want is for our military to be micromanaged by 535 mini-SecDefs. Imagine them deciding exactly which units, and how many, to deploy where and when. Down to the platoon, maybe even the rifle squad, level. That’s why they draw the major lines, and let the Executive operate within them.
Then I'm sure you deplored a district court judge's decision overruling the the military's universal, combat effectiveness and deployability-based decision to add a Covid vaccine to the other 32 immunizations routinely given in boot camp.
...despite the fact that the order to accept such immunizations had been determined to be lawful for many decades (and the principle was enforceable as far back as the American Revolution).
The judge notes that:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845.89.0_1.pdf
The notion that transgender people are “permanently undeployable” is so ridiculous that even the Trump Administration hasn’t tried to argue it (at least not in court).
Luttig would do well to learn some history. In 1857, the Supreme Court ruled that Negroes are not citizens and slavery cannot be banned in the territories. Abraham Lincoln ignored that ruling, and we know the result. Lincoln's view prevailed, and Taney is remembered with ignominy.
How did Lincoln, alone, defy the Dredd Scott ruling? I submit that any 'defiance' was by Congress and Lincoln acting in concert.
It's called leadership. Lincoln lead and the country, including Congress, followed.
Lincoln didn't promote simply "ignoring" the ruling.
He argued that one opinion, especially one based on bad history, should not settle the question. He also argued that the core holding of the opinion was unclear with dicta and so on. He argued that the question was not clearly established law.
His Attorney General tried to find a way around the ruling (e.g., the holding was about only those born a slave, not all free blacks) in an official opinion on black citizenship.
As to slavery in the territories, Congress eventually passed a law ending it there. Events made things moot but someone could have challenged it in court.
This was in the middle of the Civil War and a response to a single recent ruling about slavery. Comparing what Trump is doing to Dred Scott is ridiculous. For instance, his executive order on birthright citizenship tries to overturn over 100 years of law.
And, yes, it was a group effort with Congress leading the way in some cases such as the issue of slave "contrabands" during the war.
This gets sort of to the heart of it. If some district judge from South Carolina ruled that Congress' ban on slavery in the territories or in the District of Columbia was unconstitutional, would Lincoln have been duty-bound to respect that decision and follow it?
Was his ignoring of Dred Scott consistent with the deference that presidents are supposed to show to the judiciary?
Lincoln did not simply ignore Dred Scott. His careful analysis is consistent with the respect presidents should have.
Trump ignoring long-in-place precedents is again not comparable.
If a district court judge ruled against Lincoln somehow, he could have appealed the ruling. His analysis did not include some assumption he had the power to just ignore court judgments.
Dred Scott was specifically concerned with federal territories. The reach of the Territory Clause was of specific concern. A law involving D.C. would not be on all fours.
So, that explains your accelerationist approval of an America-MAGA Civil War?
You had a good start up above in the philosophical view. But you got shaky when you stepped into the prediction market. I think you're way out over your skis now.
Abraham Lincoln did not in fact ignore that ruling.
There are many, many permanently nondeployable nontrans military personnel. Singling out trans soldiers is on that basis is arbitrary.
singling out the mentally ill is not arbitrary. Trans is a mental illness, only a fool would think otherwise.
Actually the official military policy is that anyone who is not deployable for 12 consecutive months is to be relieved of active duty. Discharge may be honorable or not depending on circumstances and there are some exceptions but those are special exceptions. Singling out trans personnel as exceptions simply because they are trans is wrong. The standard is if they serve a military needs
It must have changed since I was on active duty. I had a condition that rendered me no deployable. The medical board kept me on active duty.
As I said there are exceptions. Perhaps you had a skill that was in high demand but short supply or they believed you would soon be deployable. Of course if your service was in the last couple of years the services were failing to even come close to recruiting goals so may have kept people in to not make matters even worse.
As I said though the general rule is 12 consecutive months of not being deployable and the problem for trans is they never will be deployable to a combat zone due to the fact that the treatment is ongoing. In other words they could never fulfill their side of the contract.
Fewer undeloyable now. If you are out of shape, or substantially overweight, you can probably expect an ultimatum. I should add that in the famous picture of the transgendered sewing circle, none of the guys in skirts looked physically capable of meeting the male fitness standards for their respective services. In any case, recruiting is up substantially, and it is no longer necessary to waive standards to maintain staffing levels. That standards were waived in the past, when the woke military was unable to meet its recruiting goals goals,
" if two impeachment trials, an alleged insurrection, and federal and state indictments didn't keep him out of the White House, then a few pages in the U.S. Reports will hardly leave a mark. "
All this resitance only made Trump stronger. A rebuke from Roberts will strengthen Trump more, to the point he may be able to push for court reform. Roberts should be careful what he wishes for, he may become an associate justice on an 11 member court, where he no longer holds a tie vote.
"11 member court"
And it was just a few months ago when court packing was an outrageous concept!
I'd like to throw in the FEDERALIST for guidance on checks and balances and separation of powers. I wish I could read 20 pages every day, with perfect recall.
Which makes me wonder. Was Andrew Jackson's Presidency weakened when he mused thus? --- "They've made their ruling. Now let's see them enforce it." Didn't the Supreme Court order Jackson to abate the "trail of tears" whereby Native Americans were being extirpated from their homes and shoved into reservations in Oklahoma?
Unfortunately, the state of GA was able to deport the Cherokee (and the rest of the 5 tribes), stole their primo farm land, and started them on their Trail of Tears to desolate OK.
No, it did not.
There is nothing in the Constitution that says that a single district judge has the power to control cases outside of the single one being ruled on. I see no problem with the president standing on this principle and telling the courts nationally to go stuff it. When it goes to the Supreme Court, are they really going to fight on that hill? The courts have already overstepped their constitutional powers - it's up to the president to put them back in their place and end this foolishness.
There is nothing in the constitution that says the president can ignore a court order.
True. But the courts operate with Soft Power. CJ Marshall essentially took the power in such a way that in the end, he really didn’t do anything except for establishing the Supreme Court as the supreme law of the land. Those who had been appointed, but their commissions not delivered soon enough, still didn’t have the offices that they were appointed to. If the Administration blows off a District Court, what can the court or courts do to them? They can’t use the US Marshall’s to drag in the miscreants, since they report to the President. They might be able to utilize their bailiffs, but the Administration probably has 100x as many sworn and armed LEOs on its payroll, and several million military personnel under their control, on top of that.
As long as Trump’s supporters see the dispute as being between lawless, unelected, highly partisan, federal judges, with lifetime tenu.re, and their popularly elected President, CJ Robert’s is going to be the one blinking. Trump having almost all of the guns.
In other words, “Mr. Roberts has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”
In other words another Trail of Tears. This time bringing captivity and exile to all Americans, not just Native Amercans, driving us all far from the home we used to know, to a strange and hostile place where the powers over us are not kindly disposed, and where we have little say in what happens to us.
The ruling to which Andrew Jackson's (likely apocryphal) comment referred, Worcester v. Georgia, 31 U.S. (6 Pet.) 515 (1832), was this:
Id., at 562-563. The matter was remanded to the state court in Georgia. His bluster notwithstanding, there was simply nothing for President Jackson nor any other federal official to enforce.
Jackson's comment was not that HE would not enforce the Court's order but that GA would not enforce it and he wasn't going to get involved. And GA did not free Worcester until more than a year later.
The Trail of Tears happened many years later, under Van Buren.
This latest turn to the Brazilian-like court model is reprehensible. Judges have their place and they are never the last word on what the law is or is not. As with juries, judges so too simply issue opinions. Faith and stability require cooperation and reason. And, those four things are what enables all to live properly.
Judges have their place and they are never the last word on what the law is or is not
You gotta take some civics, man.
Sir Thomas More: You threaten like a dockside bully.
Cromwell: How should I threaten?
More: Like a minister of state. With justice.
Cromwell: Oh, justice is what you’re threatened with.
More: Then I am not threatened.
Luttig is often described as a "conservative" judge, but he's nothing of the sort. He hates the 2nd Amendment, he hates Trump, he hates whites, and anything that gets in the way of his globalist agenda.
I don't know why people are getting so twisted up by what's happening. The plaintiffs got to choose where to file their lawsuits, so of course they are going to find the most sympathetic judges. Winning Round 1 was pretty much in the cards. Winning the appeals are going to be MUCH harder.
The President is on very solid ground on the fundamentals. The executive is Constitutionally empowered, district judges are not. Congress can try and set up agencies outside of the executive's control, but that, too, is questionably extra-Constitutional, and is similarly weak. If the President sticks to his enumerated powers, he is not going to be able to be denied.
But all this will take time. The process is designed to grind slowly but finely. Let the wheels turn.
What an ahistorical conversation this has been, for those agreeing with the ahistorical post by Josh.
Let's look at the historical event where our principal of judicial supremacy was most clearly illustrated: the Court's invalidating of FDR's New Deal legislation in 1935 - 1936. It was a time of national crisis. The survival of our democracy was never more in doubt. Fascist movements were at their high point. Guys imitating Hitler attracted big crowds.
FDR finally decided to try to "pack" the Court. He realized he couldn't disobey it -- he couldn't (for example) order that the machinery of the National Industrial Recovery Act continue despite the Court ruling the enabling act unconstitutional. Unlike Trump, he had widespread support. He was overwhelmingly popular and about to win history's biggest landslide. Democrats in Congress outnumbered Republicans four to one.
Yet he didn't do it. He could not disobey the Court. So he tried to change the composition of it by adding new members.
He failed, blocked by Congress.
Then Owen Roberts changed sides, and the New Deal was no longer blocked. But even with a blocked New Deal, and overwhelming support in Congress (and the public), FDR was not going to disobey the Court.
"It was a time of national crisis. The survival of our democracy was never more in doubt. Fascist movements were at their high point. Guys imitating Hitler attracted big crowds."
Left unmentioned is that FDR was very much a part of this. The survival of democracy in doubt? Mr. President for life scared people so badly that they amended the Constitution to provide Presidential term limits... as soon as he was safely dead. They wouldn't have dared try while he was still alive.
He packed the Court to clear the way for fascist style central planning. Not to oppose the fascists. To BE one. People stupidly thought planned economies were the future of the world, and FDR was leading that crusade.
But, yes, he didn't openly oppose the Court. He didn't have the advantage of his party spending a couple decades tearing down the Court's reputation in preparation for it.
What a pity, all that work, and somebody else looks like they might reap the harvest. Didn't think of that while you were hard at work delegitimizing the Court, did you?
Blackman is right here: The idea that, at this point, Trump is going to be crippled by a rebuke from the Court is absurd. It doesn't have that stature anymore.
Switch to decaf.
Understand: I don't like everything Trump is doing. Some of it, sure, but not all, and I don't necessarily approve of how he's going about some things I do approve of.
But if he'd come out of nowhere in a country which still REALLY had a robust rule of law and constitutional restraints on federal power, he'd be getting a lot less purchase right now. His rampage, like it or hate it, is being enabled by decades of hard work the left put in. If you like, think of him as the Devil turned 'round on you in the usual Moore quote. Missing all those trees yet? You put a lot of hard work into cutting them down.
Roberts is guilty here, too. Nation-wide injunctions and TRO's have gone from a festering sore he couldn't be bothered to do anything about, to a raging case of gangrene he STILL can't be bothered to do anything about, and if he ever HAD bothered, the judiciary might have a bit more moral authority left, and that 'rebuke' might actually sting a bit.
But it won't, because he didn't, and everybody can see that the judiciary have gotten just a little power mad here, thinking every pipsqueak judge is entitled to order around the entire executive branch, and without even any appeal.
Again, that is not what fascist means.
Again, it is. You want to focus on the cosmetics, I focus on the policy. And, in terms of economic policy, fascism means central planning via regulation that converts large parts of industry to de facto, but NOT nominally, arms of the government.
That was the big dividing line between the fascists and the communists: Whether to openly take ownership of the means of production, or to allow the existing owners to remain nominally in control as long as they did as they were told.
The Socialism and Fascism of Franklin D. Roosevelt
Brett.that still doesn't get to the heart of how Fascism today is fromt he LEFT
Jonah Goldberg did just that
" look, I define right wing basically as two pillars, right? One is traditional values, family values, Judeo-Christian tradition, however you want to define it, and the other one is free markets, free minds, libertarianism, all that kind of stuff. Those two pillars were exactly what fascist movements in Europe fought against. They were opposed to tradition, opposed to Christianity, and opposed to limited government, and opposed to free markets. That was what they were standing for. And so what I try to do, in the first half of the book, is simply correct the record and show — and I think I do it fairly well — that by any fair, objective definition of right wing and left wing, in the Anglo-American tradition, fascism has to be seen as a left-wing phenomenon."
Luttig is a modern day Benedict Arnold.
He plans to turn West Point over to the British?
Defy and refuse to obey all courts. I'm good with it. The courts have no ability to enforce a damn thing. The check on the president is impeachment, not courts.
I looked everywhere for the right take on the disgraceful Roberrts and finally found it.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2025/03/24/the-agony-of-john-roberts-n2654296
Such a silly post...
Boasberg was known within 12 hours to have a conflict of interest.
Roberts is sitting on Birthrigtht Citizenship and still complaining about respect for the law!!
Roberts gave us Presidential Immunity !!!
He's always wanted to be the one-man court and finally he's acted on it, It ends very badly : but for Roberts , not Trump
Who can forget the Chief Justice’s Saving Construction which rewrote the Constitutional authorization of the PPACA’s mandate from a commerce clause power to a taxing power? Now, the same guy chides others to stay in their lane. The CJ has careened past hutzpah and is heading towards douchebaggery. I hope he saves himself, the courts, and perhaps the country by coming to his senses.
From PPACA:
EFFECTS ON THE NATIONAL ECONOMY AND INTERSTATE COMMERCE: The effects described in this paragraph are the following:
(A) The requirement regulates activity that is commercial and economic in nature: economic and financial decisions about how and when health care is paid for, and when health insurance is purchased
Who can forget the Chief Justice’s Saving Construction which rewrote the Constitutional authorization of the PPACA’s mandate from a commerce clause power to a taxing power?
As Roberts noted: "The Government advances two theories for the proposition that Congress had constitutional authority to enact the individual mandate."
"Under the mandate, if an individual does not maintain health insurance, the only consequence is that he must make an additional payment to the IRS when he pays his taxes."
The PPACA provides a tax penalty for those who do not pay the mandate. It is attached to a "taxpayer." It crafts the mandate based on income. As a sort of income tax.
Roberts explains how it is a tax. There is no "rewriting" necessary.
Politically, this is spot on. Optics are an executive trying to deport criminals, and a broken judiciary trying to stop him.
The legal nuances will be completely lost on the voters, for better or worse.
What else would anyone expect from Mr. Penaltax? He's Bush era neoliberal trash.