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Chief Justice Roberts Speaks
Today, Chief Justice Roberts issued a statement:
For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.
This statement follows on the heels of the Judicial Conference meeting last week, in which Judges Sutton and Sullivan raised similar alarms about impeachment:
"Impeachment shouldn't be a short circuiting of that process," Sullivan said. "And so it is concerning if impeachment is used in a way that is designed to do just that."
U.S. Circuit Judge Jeffrey Sutton, an appointee of Republican President George W. Bush on the Cincinnati-based 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals who chairs the Judicial Conference's executive committee, echoed those comments.
"One thing worth keeping in mind is if we dilute the standards for impeachment, that's not just a problem for judges," Sutton said. "That's a problem for all three branches of government."
I think we need a sense of perspective.
Last year Representative AOC and other members of Congress introduced articles of impeachment against Justices Thomas and Alito. As best as I can recall, Roberts said nothing about this. Likewise, the Federal Judges Association and the American Bar Association said not a word about the never-ending crusade against two members of the Supreme Court. These attacks were never about disclosures. These critics were trying to delegitimize the Court. Yet, everyone was silent.
Likewise, in 2023, Senator Ron Wyden told President Biden to "ignore" any ruling from Judge Matt Kacsmaryk concerning mifepristone. We aren't talking about turning planes around over international waters. This would be a ruling that could be timely appealed in the normal course. Yet Roberts did not say a word about this in his end-of-year address or anywhere else. The FJA, the ABA, and all the usual suspects were silent. To the contrary, the Judicial Conference acceded to the criticism of Judge Kacsmaryk by trying to force down a rule to take cases away from him! I realize that Chief Justice Roberts is hitting the panic button, but his protest has started a bit too late.
Taking a step back, I think the standard for the impeachment process has indeed been diluted. At least with regard to the presidency, the first Trump Administration demonstrated that nebulous offenses that are untethered to any actual crime were impeachable offenses. Remember "abuse of power"?
I think the lesson of the Samuel Chase impeachment is the right one. But I'm also someone who has carefully studied the two-century history of the Court. What do you do with a President who was subject to two impeachments, where countless norms were blown past to resist him? During the first trial, Roberts admonished members of Congress to not use harsh language! And Roberts couldn't even be bothered to preside over the second trial.
The Constitutional Crisis is a coin with two sides. Trump causes judges to overact, and judges cause Trump to overreact. Any resolution must be bilateral, not unilateral. Roberts could de-escalate the situation by promptly reversing some of these out-of-control lower court rulings. But instead, he would rather sit on his hands and pontificate. I've long said that the Chief Justice is living in a different reality than the rest of us. This episode proves it. There are three co-equal branches of government; the judiciary is not supreme.
Chief Justice Marshall had the good sense to avoid a confrontation with Presidents Jefferson and Jackson. But Roberts apparently thinks this sort of statement will make everything better. But every time Roberts puts pen to paper to avoid some perceived catastrophe, he usually invites an even greater one down the road. This is a lesson he has not learned during his tenure.
Update: A few people wrote to distinguish the AOC Articles of Impeachment from the more recent articles. They claimed that AOC and her colleagues charged Thomas and Alito with failing to disclose certain gifts, not recusing on certain cases, and violating other ethical standards.
Does anyone think that AOC and her colleagues would have filed these articles if Justices Thomas and Alito were liberals? No, they would not. How do I know that? Because Justice Ginsburg took trips and failed to disclose that hospitality. Justice Ginsburg wore a dissent collar on the bench to protest Trump's election. She made comments to the press about Trump, and then refused to recuse. Where was the outrage? Silence. More recently, Justice Sotomayor accidentally did not recuse from a case that involved her publisher. Justice Jackson also failed to properly file her disclosures. The world turns.
Is there a difference between impeaching a judge for his judgment in a particular case, and for his judgment about how to follow a recusal statute? I don't see much difference. In both cases, judges are exercising their discretion. If there is an actual crime, such as bribery, let an indictment be brought. But no one has even suggested this offense was committed.
I see the gravamen of the AOC resolution as a pretext. To the extent that AOC and others are citing alleged violations of ethical rules, they are in fact objecting to Thomas and Alito's substantive rulings. Any prosecutor, or indicter, can gin up charges to justify punishment. But the motivation to bring those charges is very different.
Trump is unique in that he says exactly what he is thinking. Other politicians engage in similar acts through locutions and workarounds. But Trump tells you exactly what he is thinking.
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Absolutely. John Roberts is ok with judges haranguing lawyers over not complying with his orders before they were made. In a sane system, a lawyer, when a judge is ripping into him about knowing about a hearing, should be allowed to say, "Judge, this doesn't pass the so what test." Boasberg is an embarrassment. Trump has every right to call him out. It would be much more effective if Trump said something like this: "I am not a lawyer, but judges have no business expecting that this Administration will change substantive policy merely because a hearing was scheduled. It is also clear that courts issue injunctions in writing. Obviously, this judge doesn't know the law."
Leave it to Blackman to criticize Roberts rather than Trump.
Leave to Josh R to criticize Blackman instead of Boasburg.
Apparently his daughter AND his sister are living large on the USAID NGO graft.
Now we see why the DC Circuit behaves the way it does. They're protecting their revenue streams that are building generational wealth for their families.
What a gig any position in DC is. It's like winning the lottery for every member in your family!
Do you have documentation of this?
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1901828312869347636
Loomer has been on fire lately. She just caught the State Department providing Hunter Biden cars while he "vacations" in SA to avoid his disposition.
That is not documentation.
There's literally nothing, and I mean nothing, that would ever get you to change your beliefs about something political.
So, that being said. I don't give a flying fuck for your judgements on my links.
I genuinely, and I mean this IRL, care more about the smell of gnats cute little fart than I do about how you decide to classify any of my comments.
I've shown you a policy body cam video with Ruby Freeman confessing she helped steal the 2020 election and you were like "How do we know that's a real police body cam video???"
You've been presented with claims from prominent intelligence agencies (more than one) about the origins of COVID-19, and you rejected that. You still probably think it came from a bat and Fauci and NIH and Wuhan labs had anything to do with it.
HTH,
Okay but what's the point of commenting on a blog if you don't care what other people have to say?
Um, no, that's not what I said. I was like, "You're a racist lunatic who can't understand English, as she's saying exactly the opposite of what you're claiming she said."
https://www.partnersforjustice.org/team-members/katharine-boasberg
Classic Blackman move to equate a Sen telling Biden he should ignore a court ruling to Trump actually doing it. That’s the stuff that makes people recognize Blackman for the hack he is.
Biden very much did ignore court rulings.
Yeah, but that was OK because....reasons
Trump should do what Democrats like Joe Biden and Doktur Jill Biden do: ...plagiarize
Donald Trump:
"Early in my term, I announced a major plan to provide millions of working families with debt relief
for their college student debt," Biden saidand relief from Joe Biden's open borders immigration policies. "Tens of millions of people in debt and fearful of criminals were literally about to be canceled in debts and their lives canceled. But myMAGA RepublicanLeft wing Democrat friends in the Congress and the Judiciary, elected officials and special interests stepped in and sued us. And theSupreme CourtLeft Wing Federal Judges blocked it. But that didn’t stop me."Joseph Biden:
"Early in my term, I announced a major plan to provide millions of working families with debt relief for their college student debt," Biden said. "Tens of millions of people in debt were literally about to be canceled in debts. But my MAGA Republican friends in the Congress, elected officials and special interests stepped in and sued us. And the Supreme Court blocked it. But that didn’t stop me."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-brags-supreme-court-stop-canceling-student-loans-happy-break-law
Trying to provide student debt relief in a manner not prohibited in the court’s order is equal to rounding up humans and shipping them to El Salvador without due process despite a court order to stop?
See this? It's not the principle, it's the outcome.
Democrats don't have principles.
What court ruling did Biden ignore?
There is a fundamental difference between Roberts and President Trump. All Executive power is vested in one man, President Trump. President Trump speaks for the Executive branch. Roberts is just one justice who doesn't individually wield the Judicial power. As outrageous and misguided as his comments are, Roberts speaks for himself alone. And those comment are ridiculous. Roberts has no say in whether Congress chooses to impeach this hack trial judge for grossly abusing his authority and Congress damn well should.
Executive power is also not an imperial power. He cannot do what Congress has not authorized him to do.
Well here is he requisite congressional approval
8 U.S. Code § 1227 - Deportable aliens.
There are absolutely things the president can do without Congress telling him he can do it. What are you babbling about? lol. What has happened to Reason? It's just becoming anti-Trump. Lacking in logic and...reason.
That's in the special (education) version of the constitution that only Riva has access to.
Thanks for pointing this out. Roberts decided to comment on a POLITICAL controversy. He's a fool. Impeachment is a political tool, wielded by a political branch of government. If Roberts cares so much about the sanctity and purity of the judiciary, why is he injecting himself into a political debate? The guy is so misguided and drunk on a sense of self-importance, it's mind-boggling.
Congress has the power to impeach judges. It is not beyond the pale for political actors to suggest impeaching judges if they're displeased with their conduct. Why is the Chief Justice saying they shouldn't do that?
I have a solution: impeach Justice Roberts. That way he'll learn very clearly the Constitutional power of Congress.
I wish I wanted something half as much as JB wants a judicial appointment 🙁
If you did, you would enjoy twice his chance of getting it.
Oh, he's getting one. Don't worry!
I don’t think he wants one. He’d have to deal with a bunch of other cases of which he has no apparent interest. Like civil car accident suits, electronic fraud suits, and so on. I think he really just wants to suck at the Fed Soc teat.
You really think that's how people go about getting a nomination?
He's broken at least 10 rules, the most prominent being:
Don't leave a paper trail.
If SCOTUS didn't want Congress and POTUS talking about impeaching judges than SCOTUS shouldn't let judges commit acts worthy of generating these reactions.
Get your house in order, Roberts.
This makes zero sense. Federal judges do not run their rulings past Roberts for approval.
It’s Trump Derangement Syndrome. The infected lose comprehension and start living in a world of alternative facts.
And in this case they aren't even merits rulings, they're temporary procedural steps on the road to a ruling.
Both Trump impeachment were clearly justified. It was not "nebulous" to threaten to withhold aid to Ukraine unless Zelensky did Trump a personal favor. Or is using the power of the Presidency for personal gain OK if Trump does it? What if he had asked for $10M instead?
The campaign against Alito and Thomas were based on clear and substantial violations of disclosure rules, whatever mind-reading Blackman is trying to do.
Interesting. So you're saying that the President doesn't have the right to know what the previous administration was up to?
Not what happened, and not what Trump was trying to do. Your comment is three steps removed from reality.
So now we're requiring pure motives here? A presidential act stands on its own. President Trump had the right to understand what the conflicted Joe Biden was up to in Ukraine.
Yes, in fact. I understand why MAGA people want to pretend that motive doesn't affect the ethics and legality of an act.
Ethics, maybe. Legality?
Biden bragged about threatening Ukraine with withholding funds if they didn't fire the official looking into corruption. A corruption case that just happened to involve Hunter's employer, Burisma.
Sounds like a good reason to ask for an investigation regardless of Trump's motives.
"so you are saying" is a red flag since it regularly is an alleged paraphrase that really isn't
So you're saying that you like having sex with farm animals?
Nah, that was your mom.
I don't know that your confession to engaging in necrophilia actually makes you look better than your being into bestiality.
David,
You may not know this, but in America there's a cultural "meme", if you will, of "yo' mama" jokes. It's part of America.
HTH,
MP, MBA, JD, PhD, PhD
Your mom said that you shouldn't knock it until you try it: so you tried it, and didn't like? Why are you so into weird stuff?
clearly!
The big problem is ... thanks to the Hunter Biden laptop, pardons, and other discovered items, we now have very strong reason to believe that Biden did commit those crimes Trump wanted to investigate him for.
It wasn't a "personal favour"; it was a criminal investigation with probable cause.
The big problem is that this is something that anyone over the age of 12 knows is a lie. Nothing in the Hunter Biden laptop showed any illegal act by Joe Biden of any sort about anything, and it's hard to see how pardoning Hunter Biden could give us reason to think Joe Biden broke the law.
Moreover, it was not a criminal investigation. First, Trump did not ask for an investigation; he asked for the announcement of an investigation. Second, the DOJ is the branch of the U.S. government that is tasked with conducting criminal investigations of Americans. The Ukrainian government is not the branch of the U.S. government that is tasked with conducting criminal investigations of Americans.
"Nothing in the Hunter Biden laptop showed any illegal act by Joe Biden."
Whole lot of circumstantial evidence that needed to be investigated. There were accusations from a guy "in the room." There are lies by Biden saying he never met Hunter's business partners. If Trump did half that shit, you would be ready to hang him. Kind of like now.
1) No.
2) Again: Trump didn't order an investigation (which he absolutely could have done). Instead, he asked Zelensky to announce one.
3) To be clear, this is all a red herring because the laptop had not yet been turned over to the government at the time Trump was extorting Ukraine, so none of this supposed "circumstantial evidence" could have been the basis for Trump's purported demands for an investigation.
Roberts has enabled this by allowing judges to issue unappealable TROs. He can clean this mess up at any time. Roberts is feckless. He should have taken a hard line on out-of-control judges.
I happen to think Trump does not have the power to deport people under the 1798 law. Nevertheless, he set up the battle as his vs pro-Venezualan gangs and dared people to tell him no. Roberts needs to be smarter. He will lose a Trump "Jacksonian" moment.
I don't think you quite understand anything about the courts or the law.
Remember that time between 2016 and 2024 when the resistance was big league huge and stopped Trump from getting a second term?
oh wait...
Trump knows how to pick his battles, the left legal community doesn't, and as a result he only gets stronger.
Don't you mean "bigly yuge"?
Sameul Chase was impeached for what he said to a grand jury.
Not for issuing fiats that could not be appealed.
FDR threatened to pack the court to get his way. Trump threatens impeachments. A distinction without much difference. Judges are not elected, and should not be seen dictating national policy when the President has an anti-immigration mandate.
Except one is constitutional and one isn't.
Impeachments aren't constitutional. Learn something new every day.
Impeachments must be for cause. An impeachment not authorized by the constitution is — though not justiciable — unconstitutional.
It is disappointing to see Prof. Blackman fall for the myth that the branches are coequal. They are coordinate. Conservatives should be trying to conserve that proper understanding of the separation of pwoers rather than overturn it.
https://thedispatch.com/article/myth-coequal-branches-norm/
https://thedispatch.com/article/the-founders-saw-congress-as-supreme/
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/coequal-is-my-trigger-word/
https://heinonline.org/HOL/P?h=hein.journals/lcp35&i=127
I read the articles that you provided and I agree with them. The 3 branches are not equal. Congress created the lower courts because of the fact it would be a tremendous burden on our Supremes to deal with all federal cases. The 22 ammendment made it worse by putting term limits on the executive branch and conveniently didn't impose the same limits on themselves and the Supreme Court. We the people need to fix this problem. And maybe work on repealing the 17th, but that's another topic entirely.
It's almost as though the Chief Justice considers it more worthy of comment when a president says something then when AOC says it.
Josh Blackman doesn't understand the difference between a US President and a House back-bencher. Nor do half the people commenting here, apparently. Trump won the election banking on American voters being idiots. Smartest political decision in recent memory. [sigh]
It's a bit odd, because I expect most people here would generally express the opinion that AOC is a joke not worth listening to about anything.
Blackman says "The Constitutional Crisis" not "A Constitutional Crisis". Is he conceding that there is one now, or one is approaching? Up until now he has said that we weren't even close, and there was nothing to see here in terms of anything like a crisis.
Maybe the President calling for impeachment is something different than a few members of congress.
If any resolution must be bilateral, not unilateral, is the same not also true for court rulings about abortion and gun rights? Are the court rulings on these matters just something to be taken under advisement, as just a starting point for some sort of bilateral negotiation towards an ultimate resolution, and not to be respected or followed at face value?
Roberts' only mistake is thinking that this man can be reasoned with:
Hard to imagine this is our President speaking. Yet here we are.
As I said on a different thread, Trump would be hilarious if he were president of a third world country. It's as if Idi Amin has been elected President of the United States.
Trump was an amusing buffoon . . . until he got elected in 2016. Then he wasn't funny anymore.
He was a predator then too but now he victimizes a nation.
Oh, are we going to talk about how Dem. Pres. Johnson used to take out his penis (named "Jumbo") at cabinet meetings, now?
Trump has enormous faults in ethics, temperament, maturity, and judgement.
Its just sad he was the best choice we were given.
Sad that either you're stupid enough to believe that, or pretend to believe it out of shame.
LOL, this dance...
You defend *to the hilt* everything that Trump does as Constitutional, as well as cool and good.
But every once in a while you gotta claim you're not really a fan.
Before you go back to slavish apologia.
Back when Trump was running the first time, Trevor Noah did a hilarious segment on how Trump would be this country's first African president.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FPrJxTvgdQ
Roberts isn't trying to reason with him. His audience is primarily elsewhere.
I don't know how anyone can take a Con Law class from Josh after seeing this.
Why would you say that? It's tame compared to the Chucky comments about the whirlwind.
"Turn the planes around"---waaaaaaaaaaaaah.
I always mute juvenile assholes. Bye!
Hey everyone, look how Good Dan is!
Sarcastr0, will you please come and award Dan his Good Boy points?
You know, they should have. Programmed the autopilot and then bailed out. Let them crash into Mexico killing not only the illegal alien criminals but innocents on the ground.
We obeyed your order, your honor, we turned the planes around...
Yes, all passenger pilots routinely carry parachutes
Maybe "con" means "conservative" - assuming it's English, of course. (Though, I probably won't take a Con Law class from someone who parroted the argument made by Robert McIlwaine, either. 388 U.S. 1, 8)
"Thus, the State contends that, because its miscegenation statutes punish equally both the white and the Negro participants in an interracial marriage, these statutes, despite their reliance on racial classifications, do not constitute an invidious discrimination based upon race." I'm confused. Are you saying Josh took this view at some point?
He made the equivalent argument for sex.
I have regularly read this blog for more than 20 years; however, I have been visiting this blog less and less over the past couple months, and Blackman's posts are the primary, if not sole, cause.
If I wanted to read predictable, vapid, politically driven nonsense, I'd go over to Truth Social or find some Reddit page and read the garbage there. I don't want it or need it on what was previously a blog filled with serious and thoughtful posts.
You can't honestly compare openly defying a judicial order, then threatening the judge with impeachment, to a member of Congress introducing articles of impeachment (that went nowhere) based upon what she and others considered to be a material failure to disclose financial benefits from a party. Yet Blackman does because, as always, he is a predicable lickspittle for Trump.
If this is what this blog is going to be, I'm out. I'll find somewhere that provides the principled discussions and reasoning that brought me here in the first place.
They didn't defy anything. Judges have to issue injunctions in writing. Boasberg is an incompetent.
This wasn't an injunction; it was a TRO.
All TROs are injunctions. It doesn't really matter--courts act in writing.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/trump-doj-stonewalls-judge-on-deportation-flights/
For a contrary view, but McCarthy doesn't grapple with the caselaw.
"This wasn't an injunction; it was a TRO."
Can you ever stop with being a pedant?
"Injunctions in the United States tend to come in three main forms: temporary restraining orders, preliminary injunctions and permanent injunctions." wikipedia
No, he's too busy asking about people's sex lives. He's a weirdo.
Question for other actual litigators: is citing wikipedia more, or less, embarrassing than citing ChatGPT?
Also, a supposed lawyer complaining about "pedantry" in discussing law is pretty funny, in a pathetic way. Law is about details.
There’s not even an attempt to address the substance of the argument. Trumps legal argument is transparently absurd, and Blackman chastised Robert’s of all people, and Trumps puts out a statement that he can just ignore court rulings because of something something article II.
It’s ridiculous and disappointing.
"openly defying a judicial order"
From what I've seen it sounds like this didn't happen.
Your comment is predictable, vapid, politically driven nonsense.
Right. Just another deranged, low-information Democrat.
These people are the bottom rung of the ladder version of those 48+ Democrat Congressmen reading of the same script.
Thoughts and prayers.
If this is what this blog is going to be, I'm out. I'll find somewhere that provides the principled discussions and reasoning that brought me here in the first place
MSNBC, CNN and Washington Post could use your web traffic. Just a thought
You liberals hate it when diversity of thought enters your bubble. Grow up.
"I think the lesson of the Samuel Chase impeachment is the right one. "
It was a disaster. Chase deserved to be removed from office.
It destroyed even the threat of impeachment as a check on the courts. In time, it resulted in the Imperial Judiciary we have now, where every nickel and dime district court judge contests all sorts of policy with the executive.
Bob (serious discussion),
How is this different than a House sub-committee chairman holding up an issue or nomination?
Just trying to point out that lower level - yet clearly authorized - offices can have significant power.
The district and appellate court systems are creatures of Congress and I'm not sure how much direct authority Roberts or the Supreme Court hold over them.
They certainly can't fire them.
And Congress holds the Judicial Discipline Process anyway.
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R41758.pdf
"House sub-committee chairman holding up an issue or nomination?"
At least that chair is acting for clear political reasons, many judges [GOP and Dem] are pretending to be unbiased but aren't.
"They certainly can't fire them."
That is why Congress should be able to, not just for criminal convictions as now.
Apedad, try political versus judicial.
I think the impeachment and removal process was never a good fit for the problem: judicial power is political power and it is exercised with little to no actual public accountability. The removal threshold and the constraining language of the clause just make it sort of meaningless, compared to what is really needed: some form of more direct electoral accountability for exercising a core political power.
The Progressive Era was a real missed opportunity to have meaningful electoral and political accountability for federal judges and justices. States were right to have elections for their judges. Maybe we could have gotten an amendment to do something along those lines like with the 17th.
Many states elect judges. I do not think that anyone would identify a single one of those states as one whose judiciary is an improvement on the federal judiciary.
Depends on what you mean by improvement. I think attorneys tend to think federal courts are better run and that their judges are smarter more professional. That might be the case for trial courts. And I generally don’t think trial judges should be elected and they should be more professionalized.
But at the highest levels they are an improvement because the polity gets a direct say in how political power exercised. Even if it’s dumb as shit.
My state in the boneless wings state. That decision is enormously stupid. It’s in accord with a number of stupid decisions by the republicans on the state supreme court. Our state had an election where the democrats made hay out of that dumb decision. The voting public didn’t care. As is their right. They apparently want Republican judges who make decisions that are dumb as hell. Because the majority of the state has shitty values. But they’re entitled to get their shitty values expressed through their institutions. Even if it’s dumb as hell. So too with federal courts: if SCOTUS makes a really shit decision or series of decisions the public is stuck with it.
So while the day to day might be overall nicer in federal court for lawyers, and that’s a big if if you get an Aileen Cannon or a Lynn Hughes or a Manny Real, or (fill in your least favorite federal judge); whether it’s an improvement as a matter of political theory is highly highly debatable.
Because the Dred Scott decision was the ultimate possible decision -- forget the carnage of the war and needing three Amendments to fix, it was a great court and great judgment....
Now if Roger Taney had been impeached....
"States were right to have elections for their judges."
Is the world ending? A point of agreement!
We’ve agreed on this before lol.
The "good behavior" rule should have teeth even without impeachment.
If a federal judge is guilty of a serious felony, for example, shouldn't take impeachment for them to be constitutionally unfit to serve.* Impeachment can still matter -- for instance, it could add a lifetime ban on any government office.
I don't think judicial elections are the answer. I would more likely favor term limits. Also, I think since the Progressive Era, there has been more accountability for lower court judges.
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* There has been scholarship making the case.
Maybe it doesn’t need to be elections. I just think there needs to be more direct public accountability for judicial decision-making. Because law and the exercise of judgment isn’t actually some kind of mechanical application of words and phrases that leads a judge to an unassailably correct conclusion. It’s about values. And the exercise of judgment based on values, especially at the highest levels, requires political accountability.
Well said. Or you get what we see now.
Don’t mistake me: the judges are absolutely correct to enter orders against Trump in many circumstances. That’s not why they should be politically accountable. It has nothing to do with him and is a structural issue that has always been and always will be present so long as this iteration of the Constitution lasts. But so long as they do have unaccountable political power to enter judgments, they should use it to thwart him and his shitty fascist movement.
I agree somewhat, but I don't think the voters are really a solution.
The solution really needs to be the Judiciary needs to police its own.
Whether its a Texas, DC, or Hawaiian judges issuing nationwide TRO's, there needs to be a systematic response from the circuits, or the Supreme Court to rein them in.
Randy Barnett points out from 1903 to 1976 it required 3 judge panels to decide the constitutionality of federal or state statutes or executive orders. Reinstating that and also requiring 3 judge panels for nationwide TRO's would be a good start, which would not prevent them from providing relief to the parties, but only if warranted, and within traditional bounds (like money damages for illegal firings, not immediate reinstatement).
There is a real risk here to our legal and political system with Judges overstepping their powers and just being ignored. After all the President isn't getting arrested or impeached if he sends out another 10 planes of gang members, contrary to the orders of a single district judge. But a three judge panel would carry more weight, and would encourage more restraint on both sides.
I have no objection to requiring three judge panels for these purposes, as long as that isn't a tactic to stall. (I don't think MAGA would be quite so happy that they can't run to Kacsmaryk whenever they need a reliable ruling against a Democratic president, though.)
Prof. Blackman has very little to say about his boy threatening the judicial system and openly violating due process, but apparently Robert’s is to blame here?
I wish you had a shred of intellectual honesty,
As long as Robert's realizes that there is no backsies on the immunity stuff.
Permit judges to continuously issue illegal injunctions and, eventually, the executive has to wield HIS power and ignore them and defy the court to enforce their order.
Their credibility is solely because people follow their rulings. That can always end.
It’s not an illegal injunction, Trumps legal theory is extremely tenuous. And I happily support deporting illegal immigrants, but rounding people up in the middle of the night and sending them to El Salvador prison camps is obviously over the line!
If you attempt to make sound legal arguments then are smacked down, then one can make that complaint. Not when you try to do something like this. There is zero attempt to justify this properly.
Yeah, I think Josh is off base here, there is nothing wrong with Roberts statement especially since an impeachment is going nowhere.
However if Roberts really serious about being an impartial umpire then he needs to make sure the other umpires know the rules and are following them, and rein them in.
AOC, ostensibly, did not say any justice should be impeached because of decisions. She cited ethical concerns. Trump does not even try to hide that he wants impeachment because of decisions.
For sure, AOC does not like the jurisprudence of Alito and Thomas, but she does not like Kavanaugh or Gorsach, either, and, perhaps Barrett and Robert's. She has not proposed impeachment for the latter for.
Because declaring yourself a despot isn't an ethical concern?
You mean Trump, right?
Maybe he’s making a statement because a Trump supporter actually managed to murder a federal judge’s son. Something that you have never once commented upon despite lots of posts about threats to judges you like. So maybe he’s legitimately worried violent people will react to Trump in a way they won’t and don’t react to a Wyden or an AOC. Not that his statement is in any way helpful to preventing that possibility of course.
For the record, the impeachment standard dilution began in 1998. Thanks Newt.
Before 1998 nobody would have thought lying about sex in an unrelated lawsuit would be impeachable. I'd bet a lot of people have returned to that view now, though many will not admit it.
Lying under oath.
But you're right--Michael Mann and his lawyers were found to have lied in court, and they get a dinky fine.
There's nothing specifically incorrect in calling it "lying about sex in an unrelated lawsuit".
But it would perhaps be more accurate and informative to call it "committing perjury as part of a broader attempt to evade legal consequences for an ongoing pattern of nonconsensual sexual assault and indecent exposure, committed against multiple women employed under him while he was serving as a public official*".
Which made it not quite so lame as an impeachment case.
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*Allegedly, of course.
Before Clinton, a President caught with his pants down would have resigned in shame. The rule was "don't get caught" -- why do you think Marylin Monroe was murdered?
Yeah, I guess whataboutism is all you’ve got to work with here.
Last year Representative AOC and other members of Congress introduced articles of impeachment against Justices Thomas and Alito. As best as I can recall, Roberts said nothing about this.
Why would he? She flagged actual problems, not merely disagreements with decisions.
Also, one representative (or senator) is not in the same position as the head of the executive branch.
Likewise, in 2003, Senator Ron Wyden told President Biden to "ignore" any ruling from Judge Matt Kacsmaryk concerning mifepristone.
Yes, Roberts should have called out Ron Wyden a few years before he became Chief Justice. Fun with typos.
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The two Trump impeachments were the result of major high crimes and misdemeanors. He did lots of bad things. The House specifically impeached him for two specific constitutional wrongs.
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Anyway, I think Roberts probably was misguided to respond.
Don't feed the trolls. Also, overall, Walter Nixon v. U.S. gave Congress broad discretion over the impeachment process. Not impeaching for "really bad" rulings is a political question.
Finally, Justice Samuel Chase was impeached at least for alleged abuse of power involving the rights of defendants. The counts were dubious but not mere disagreement with "a judicial decision."
If a federal judge can be shown to be repeatedly abusive to those who come in front of them, impeachment can be warranted.
One more thing. If he wants to make a public statement, put it on the SCOTUS website. They have a "media advisory" page.
As far as you know, are there any actual problems here with Judge Boasburg?
"Why would he? She flagged actual problems, not merely disagreements with decisions."
Distinction without a difference, since according to Trump Judge Broasburg has actual problems BECAUSE of his actual decision. In that case, Broasburg is in a worse position.
according to Trump Judge Broasburg has actual problems BECAUSE of his actual decision
You know? I begin to wonder if you're actually a professor.
Except that the articles of impeachment against Alito and Thomas were based on perceived ethical failings and conflicts of interest, not disagreement with their decisions. As a matter of realpolitik, the articles of impeachment might not have been filed if Alito and Thomas consistently ruled in a way that impeachment proponents approved of, but there is still a difference between (1) moving to impeach a judge you disagree with because you think they have engaged in unethical conduct that violates their oath of office, and (2) moving to impeach a judge because you disagree with the judge.
When the judge presumes authority the judge does not possess?
I'd love to see Trump send in a dozen Federal Marshals and ARREST one of these judges. Put him/her/it in the Super Max.
The appropriate remedy is a appeal, not impeachment.
Spoken like a true fascist.
Roberts comments that "impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision".
Blackman responds
About failure to recuse, not a judicial decision. Read for comprehension, Josh.
And that second example?
Not even a hint of impeachment in this one.
Meanwhile in under two months Trump Republicans have introduced resolutions of impeachment against judges Engelmayer, Bates and Ali and muttered about filing against McConnell, Abelson and now Boasberg. All because of "disagreement concerning a judicial decision".
So far saner heads have prevailed and Roberts naturally wants to ensure they will continue to. Blackman's poor excuse for whataboutism doesn't help.
Any time Musk or Trump posts on social media about a judge and demands judicial impeachment; MAGA lapdogs in Congress respond. The right wing echosphere responds.
And there is a qualitative difference between attempts to impeach a judge or justice over ethical issues (or more simply alleged improper gratuities from people likely to have business before the court) and disagreements over decisions. Roberts is talking specifically about the latter.
Its almost at parody levels now. Trump attacks as psychotic liberal lunatics judges appointed by a democrat (be sure to capitalize the Hussein whenever mentioning Obama). I wonder what his screed will be when one of the federal judges who blocks something he or Musk is attempting to do was appointed by him? Anybody want to guess if a) Trump won't post about that judge on social media or b) will post about the decision but won't call them disparaging names like a disgruntled toddler or c) won't ask for their immediate removal from office?? Any bets? It's bound to happen. Perhaps its happened already I haven't had the time to do a full accounting of all the public outbursts.
From 2020, via NYT:
Mr. Schumer, speaking while the court heard arguments in a major abortion case, attacked two of Mr. Trump’s appointees, Justices Neil M. Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh. “You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price,” Mr. Schumer said. “You will not know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.”
Chief Justice Roberts condemned those remarks.
“Justices know that criticism comes with the territory, but threatening statements of this sort from the highest levels of government are not only inappropriate, they are dangerous,” he said in a statement. “All members of the court will continue to do their job, without fear or favor, from whatever quarter.”
Time for Trump to force Squish to get off his ass and control his branch. Next crazy ruling, just state the inferior courts do not have the authority and the President does not recognize the ruling until it has gone through the USSC.
Boasburg is clearly setting up this fight.
His daughter and sister's fortune's are on the line.
Trump & MAGA tried that with Judge Merchan. Trump must have posted 1,000 times about the deranged "conflicted" judge. That dog don't hunt. DOJ has already asked the appellate court to re-assign Boasburg but not because of any potential or perceived conflict of interest. They just big mad that anybody has the temerity to stand up to them.
It was signed by Bondi (one of Trump's former personal lawyers), Emil Bove (same), Todd Blance (same) and a couple other deputy AG's. I think that motion had like 8 DOJ signature lines. So much little dick energy. Sad.
Are you a real attorney? If so, can you find "They just big mad that anybody has the temerity to stand up to them." in any of the DOJs responses?
Or are you a Democrat "attorney"? One where you bootlick and parrot whatever the Deep State's viewpoint is? Like that notguilty fella.
They asked the appellate court to re-assign the case because essentially the judge encroached on Trump's authority. Similar to the arguments made in court when the DOJ attorney wouldn't answer the judges questions. You can find the request online I won't do your homework for you.
What the DOJ didn't cite or argue is that the judge has a conflict of interest - real or perceived.
He's in the White House. You're babbling idiotically on Reason.com.
Not sure you're in a position to discuss their "little dick energy" with your abundance of eunuch energy.
No, this is little dick energy. Pg 2 & 3. I count 12 DOJ attorneys on the signature line.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.28.0_3.pdf
Its almost like they are attempting to somehow intimidate the chief judge of the d.c. circuit.
Ah yes, Professor Blackman. When Trump expresses egregious disregard for the rule of law that you won't even try to defend, there is always both-sidesism. But don't you think there's quite a difference between the *President* calling for the *impeachment* of a federal judge, versus what you complain about on the Democratic side of this ledger?
John Roberts has an exalted opinion of John Roberts. I would bet that he honestly thinks that his attempts to broker compromise and come up with ridiculous split the baby decisions and statements are the mark of a judge no less than a John Marshall, Learned Hand, or a John Roberts.
The problem is that the system is collapsing while Roberts pretends to be the voice of reason. There is a serious issue out there in the federal court system with single district judges enacting executive policy. Roberts has chosen to do nothing about it. He has taken sides and allowed it to continue.
He cannot now claim umpire and Solomon-like status by throwing some barbs at Trump. The judiciary is on the precipice of an Andrew Jackson moment and Roberts seems not to realize that. Judicial decisions are only obeyed because people respect them as judicial decisions.
If he and Barrett are going to allow federal judges to run amok, then he can criticize Trump all he wants but he will watch his cherished judicial independence---along with his weak efforts to play the middle---come crashing down around him. He puts on an arrogant aura of strength, but is exceptionally weak.
It's Boasburg who is making an illegal act.
Ludecke v. Watkins, 335 U.S. 160 (1948). Deportations under the Alien Enemy Act of 1978 are not justiciable.
Aw c'mon. According to RFRA, state courts must use the Sherbert/Yoder standard. SCOTUS struck that down in Boerne. Why can't SCOTUS strike down the not justiciable requirement?
"Why can't SCOTUS strike down the not justiciable requirement?"
It can, a lower court can't.
So looking at the Ludecke v Watkins case:
The Alien Enemy Act precludes judicial review of the removal order. Pp. 335 U. S. 163-166.
2. In the circumstances of relations between the United States and Germany, there exists a "declared war" notwithstanding the cessation of actual hostilities, and the order is enforceable.
3. The Alien Enemy Act, construed as permitting resort to the courts only to challenge its validity and construction, and to raise questions of the existence of a "declared war" and of alien enemy status, does not violate the Bill of lights of the Federal Constitution.
4. The fact that hearings are utilized by the Executive to secure an informed basis for the exercise of the summary power conferred by the Act does not empower the courts to retry such hearings, nor does it make the withholding of such power from the courts a denial of due process.
Hmmm...looks like paragraph 3 above may be something to look into it.
Yes, for support for Trump's position.
We are in a declared war. The War on Terror. These were enemy combatants recognized as belonging to a terrorist organization.
I think you are one step ahead of yourself. The president via executive order has now declared cartels 'terrorists.' But I don't think they are the same terrorists as those under the global war on terror and I don't see in any of the filings made by the govt that they are treating TdA members as enemy combatants. If that was the case, they wouldn't be transferred to El Salvador but to Guantanamo or similar military bases under US Jurisdiction.
They are relying on the Alien Enemies Act for summary deportation/removal out of the country. But as the decision you provided states the courts can entertain questions of whether the President's invocation of the act is valid given there isn't a declaration of war and the global war on terror (if one were to make that argument as you seem to be doing now) also isn't a declared war. The AUMF for pursuing that war also is questionable as applied to Venezuelan nationals (in gangs or not) and I think could be challenged in Court. But again, the Govt doesn't seem to be making that argument just you are. Maybe they will make it in the future but i think that would just weaken their case.
That doesn't end the dispute because the executive order doesn't mention war either but simply that TdA are conducting 'irregular warfare' inside the United States. And that determination, like whether a state of war exists, would be reviewable by the Courts. And again, the cite you provided is the support for that proposition.
We are not in a declared war, no "war on terror" was in fact ever declared, and the president does not get to declare war against anyone. (To the extent one construes the AUMF as a declaration of war, which I think is reasonable, it was declared against Al Qaeda and those that worked with it and harbored it. Even the nutty Trump declaration about TdA does not declare that this alleged drug cartel was involved in 9/11.)
I don't know why my cut and paste got garbled up and I didn't notice in time to edit it. The point I was going to make was that Ludecke's case was decided in 1948 but he was arrested in 1941, had a hearing in 1942 where upon he was detained. The president later invokes the Alien Enemies Act in 1945 and in 1946 the attorney general ordered Ludecke's removal under that statute.
I don't think anybody disputes that the US and Germany at the time of the invocation of the Alien Enemies Act that there was in fact a declared war between the United States & Germany. This case only concerned whether the Alien Enemies Act could be employed once the shooting war was over but before formal peace had been declared. So one holding from this decision is, "Nor does it require protracted argument to find no defect in the Act because resort to the courts may be had only to challenge the construction and validity of the statute and to question the existence of the 'declared war,' as has been done in this case." So the Court acknowledges challenges to the President's plenary power to act under the statute with respect to whether a 'declared war' is valid or exists.
Obviously, in our present situation, no declared war exists. It follows that the act's application to any specific removed subject CAN in fact be challenged. And this case supplies the precedent to do so.
So it makes me think that all the people that seem to think the mere act of the President's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act removes ALL judicial discretion over that decision are simply wrong.
"I don't think anybody disputes that the US and Germany at the time of the invocation of the Alien Enemies Act that there was in fact a declared war between the United States & Germany."
Dunno if it matters, but wasn't he arrested on 8 December, while we exchanged declarations of war with Germany on 11 Dec?
For purposes of the analysis - i think the relevant date is the invocation of the Enemy Aliens Act. Which occurred in 1945. The Atty Gen ordered his removal in 1946. The argument of the petitioner was that the war [with Germany] was essentially over at the time of his removal so the administration's application of the Act was inapplicable as to him. The Court disagreed; but importantly, held that the Court could hear his case.
As I said above, there is no declaration of war with Venezuela. But the executive order invoking the Act uses the other part of the statute talking about enemy incursions - the main point here - is that if someone can invoke the jurisdiction of the court on the point of whether a state of war exists then someone being removed can invoke the jurisdiction of the courts for the 'incursions' or whatever other language is being employed to invoke the act. Its a condition precedent to invoking the act and its subject to judicial review. Commenters, the AG and others are saying all of it is un-reviewable and that is clearly not what the US Sup Ct held. To be true, the petitioner lost. But he got his day in Court. Which, if the DOJ had their way, nobody would get under Trump and these individuals sent to El Salvador did not get.
Thanks, got it, I think...
Under that theory Trump could deport anyone without regard to their legal status, declaration of war, stuff they have done, and the courts could not do anything about it.
I think we need a sense of perspective.
Last year Representative AOC and other members of Congress introduced articles of impeachment against Justices Thomas and Alito. As best as I can recall, Roberts said nothing about this. Likewise, the Federal Judges Association and the American Bar Association said not a word about the never-ending crusade against two members of the Supreme Court. These attacks were never about disclosures. These critics were trying to delegitimize the Court. Yet, everyone was silent.
Indeed, we need a sense of perspective.
Thomas and Alito were being targeted for corruption. The evidence in Thomas's case in particular is very troubling (decades of expensive gifts from a billionaire activist).
And the articles of impeachment went absolutely nowhere, not even a vote.
Trump is targeting the judge merely for ruling against him. And instead of a powerless legislator Trump is the actual President who has direct control over the DOJ.
As usual, Blackman's pathetic pandering is a bit of a dud.
"Last year Representative AOC and other members of Congress introduced articles of impeachment against Justices Thomas and Alito. As best as I can recall, Roberts said nothing about this."
I don't recall that he addressed the matter of impeachment specifically, but he did babble a bit about ethics and try to hand-wave away the fact that two justices got caught red-handed accepting bribes from people with cases before the court.
I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for 1000, Alex.
He's a Democrat. They live in a different reality. One created by the CIA in collusion with gobs of taxpayer funded Soros NGOs.
Sure, I'm a Democrat ... in your imagination.
In the real world, the last time I voted for a Democrat for president was 1988.
Speaking of three branches of government, may we assume there is a bill somewhere in the legislature that will clearly define the limits of the district courts? Like rulings only apply to that district, and only to those before the court?
May we?
Pretty please?
IIRC, there use to be a procedure to convene a three-judge panel to review certain claims against the government. Only appeal was to SCOTUS. They can do something like that for national injunctions.
To paraphrase an old stock broker ad - -
Chief Justice Roberts Speaks, and nobody listens.
At least with regard to the presidency, the first Trump Administration demonstrated that nebulous offenses that are untethered to any actual crime were impeachable offenses. Remember "abuse of power"
Blackman thinks that is condemnation of misuse of impeachment. It is more like insight into the correct use of impeachment.
The phrase, "High crimes and misdemeanors," has ancient roots in English legal tradition. The word "High," in that tradition is not meant as an intensifier, comparable to the way the word, "aggravated," is used in familiar legal parlance. The word "High," is used there to distinguish a particular type of offense, almost necessarily a political type, because it refers to offenses against the political process at its highest level—for instance by reference to offenses against the Sovereign as, "high treason." Which is to say by analogy to American context that "high crimes and misdemeanors," are activities which tend to undermine, or worse to thwart, the operation of American constitutionalism.
Thus, any presumed association of impeachment with ordinary criminal activity is at least misplaced. More likely, it is a marker pointing toward constitutional misinterpretation.
Has any judge actually been impeached? Until then, it's all hot air.
Meanwhile, how about judges actually follow law about issuing TRO's. Like finding a likelihood of success on the merits, and irreparable harm. Those seem to be in short supply.
Will BL support an actual ideological impeachment of a judge?
I'd bet he'll find a way.
On the one hand some minor representative calls for Thomalito to be impeached. On the other hand, the president of the US calls for Boasberg to be impeached. These are not of equal weight.
And I will bet that Thomalito didn't have to have security beefed up after AOC's actions, while Boasberg will already have received death threats as an inevitable consequence of his ruling.and Trump's later comments.
aoc can start that process. Trump cannot.
They are not comparable.
Ever heard of Thomas a Becket?
Ilya agrees with me: "But the threat posed by such demands is obviously greater when it comes from the president of the United States, than from political activists or congressional backbenchers."
To nobody's surprise, Judge Bozoberg and his wife are big leftwing activists and Democrat donors.
The wife is the founder and board chair of an abortion clinic. Nothing like dedicating your life's work to aborting human beings.
Bozoberg is also the judge who decided that Kevin Clinesmith should not get prison time for the Russia hoax scam!
Breitbart's Alex Marlow has more:
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2025/03/18/alex-marlow-exposes-anti-trump-leftist-activist-judge-who-blocked-gang-member-deportations/
Some posters are making awfully absolutist statements. Lets say that a federal district judge entered a TRO preventing Trump from vetoing a particular bill.
Would/should Trump obey the order? Would posters wax with high praise regarding how judicial order must always be obeyed? Would John Roberts ask for calm and tell Trump to appeal if he didn't like the order? I think not.
What some of us on this side are saying is that these judicial decrees as just as outrageous as my hypothetical. And to acquiesce in them, as Roberts has done, is to take sides in that dispute despite his faux statesmanship and seeming to stay above the fray.
Lets say that a federal district judge entered a TRO preventing Trump from vetoing a particular bill.
Actually, this last case involved a mandatory injunction. So to change your hypothetical, the judge would order the president to sign a bill that he intended to veto.
A judge just declared it "likely unconstitutional" to have shuttered the USAID headquarters building without the approval of a USAID Officer.
Do you hear that? We didn't have a president last term, we don't have a president this term. Last term we had a secret cabal of Obama acolytes using the auto-pen for a president. This term we got district judges and the previous administrations agency heads as presidents now.
The presidency has grown from 1 person, to a committee (or whomever has access to the auto-pen) to numerous judges and agency heads.
This is Democracy!
Evidently your idea of democracy is that the president decides what he wants to do and then does it. "If the president does it, it's not unconstitutional" and no judges should stop him.
I mean, obviously this is a dictatorship rather than a democracy, but I don't think you've ever indicated you're opposed to a dictatorship if Trump were the dictator.
You think an agency official has to approve a decision by the President on where the HQ should be located like that judge?
A President is elected, the agency official isn't. Yet you believe the agency official's (the one who isn't accountable to the people) actions are "democracy", while the President's (the one who is accountable to the people) actions are "dictatorship".
This is just more liberal Satanic inversion.
Do you remember the Saturday Night Massacre? Nixon ordered Richardson to fire Archibald Cox. Richardson refused and resigned. Then he ordered Ruckelshaus to fire Archibald Cox. Ruckelshaus refused and resigned. Then he ordered Bork to do so; Bork did so. Notice how Nixon didn't just go fire Cox himself?
If Congress assigns responsibility to an agency official, then the agency official is the one who has to do that thing.
If the agency official's action was authorised by Congress...
Oh, and that a president was democratically voted in doesn't mean that he can't become a dictator.
liberal Satanic inversion.
Cretinous
Do you read what you write?
Lets say that a federal district judge entered a TRO preventing Trump from vetoing a particular bill.
Let's say the Rockies win the World Series this season ...
If a district judge enters an unhinged TRO, as Roberts notes, there is an appeals process.
Also, the orders are not "just as outrageous." If a majority of the Supreme Court doesn't agree, including two conservatives, maybe your perspective is skewered a bit.
But a TRO, unlike a preliminary injunction, is not immediately appealable. That's part of the judicial mischief at work here.
It would take roughly 30 minutes for a writ of mandamus to issue if a judge issued a TRO preventing Trump from signing or vetoing a bill.
In this case the proper course of action would be an intimidate and emergency appeal. The appellate courts would quickly strike it down.
Another one of Robert's BFF's just declared that the President can't even move HQ of an agency unless it was approved by an officer of that agency. It actually violated the constitution.
lmao wtf
I'm not sure why Chief Roberts is even issuing a statement. He would have no role in the impeachment process of a federal judge. The lower Courts are a creation of Congress and are under their purview. They can initiate impeaching proceedings if they wish.
As to the federal judges' rulings against Trump and his administration, the judges are making political, not legal rulings, and are way out of their lane.
Are we now going to have federal courts to issue national injunctions on any matter they deem an interest? Goody! Then a Florida federal judge can issue an injunction against D.C's firearm's permitting process.
That would be nice. D.C's firearm's permitting process is a mess.
To my knowledge, every judge, citizen, and office holder is expected to do their part in preventing unlawfulness. Whether it's a trial judge, a Supreme Court justice, or a President that flags criminality isn't particularly meaningful since it's the Law that reigns supreme, and it's the Law which is acting to stop illegality.
To the extent that the judge may have misunderstood the law, there's a whole process for how that plays out.
Blackman has neither offered any reason to think that there's some law preventing a judge from pausing a plausibly illegal act, nor any reason to think that the review process is insufficient.
Blackman is also tossing up a red herring on the question of judicial impeachments and failing to make a case for the subject, one way or the other.
Let's say that Mao Zedong said that 3 meals a day are good, and he did so for nonsense reason to do with astrology and a dream vision. So, yes, his recommendation is nonsense. Yes, Mao was a malicious actor. But that has no bearing on whether 3 meals a day are good or bad. I could probably find some crank moron for any subject, declare them a "crank moron", and move on without analyzing the subject with rigor and honesty.
By all accounts, Thomas does seem to have decided to pad his income in a way that it's hard to view as anything but corrupt. If your job is to be dispassionate and uninfluenced, accepting multi-million dollar gifts from important figures would either say that you were a born sucker that trusts everyone, or have given up on caring about the credibility of your position. I'm skeptical that you can get appointed as a judge as a gullible rube.
Obviously, this should be reviewed and judged on the merits, with Thomas given place to provide a defense. Maybe there is one.
Whether he's guilty or not be as it may, the accusation is corruption and there certainly are crimes and misdemeanors throughout the laws of the land, to do with corruption. Impeachment seems like a reasonable course of action, even among those who have no personal investment in the topic, short of being a citizen of the country.
I'm not aware of any crimes or misdemeanors to do with a judge delaying a government action that limits individual rights, while the courts review the legality of the action.
“Last year Representative AOC and other members of Congress introduced articles of impeachment against Justices Thomas and Alito. As best as I can recall, Roberts said nothing about this. Likewise, the Federal Judges Association and the American Bar Association said not a word..”
Hmmm.
Could it be because they take Elon Musk more seriously than they take AOC?
The update tried some more whataboutism.
Fix the Court flags multiple justices for ethical violations. But, there are degrees. Thomas has taken things to the next level.
He has been called out by both sides. It is true Republicans in Congress have circled the wagons. Not too surprising.
I think the Alito articles are a closer question, but he too has taken things further than the others. Notice how of six conservatives, only two specifically are addressed on this level. Not just partisan.
She made comments to the press about Trump and then refused to recuse. Where was the outrage? Silence.
Ginsburg was criticized for her public statement about Trump and apologized. When did Alito? He repeatedly just provided aggrieved statements and leaks to the media.
Liberals have criticized Ginsburg for not retiring and having too much of a crony view of being a justice as some have for Breyer. They are quite open to having consistent binding ethical guidelines.
Sorry, whataboutism doesn't alter AOC was right.
Likewise, a single member of Congress is not the same as the head of the executive department ranting on social media.
> Notice how of six conservatives, only two specifically are addressed on this level. Not just partisan.
Uh, you people tried to assasinate one and the other wrote that absurd decision for trannies so he got a few years grace, and the third? Well, she clearly ain't a conservative. She's a Catholic with a black adopted kid. She probably donates to all those Catholic NGOs that were facilitating the invasion all these years.
The Chief Justice speaks out sua sponte protecting a rogue judge who challenged the constitutional discretion of the president removing illegal aliens, dangerous gang members, from U.S. soil.
Where was the supreme court in 2009 when even a paralegal with an hour of free time on their hands knew that a son of a British-Kenyan-Marxist-Muslim-Bigamist father who failed again and again to provide proof of 'place of birth' . . . when Article II 'natural born citizenship' under the First Uniform Naturalization Act of 1790 to the bipartisan senate study SR 511 made it clear that 'place of birth' had nothing to do with presidential eligibility, but only the nationality conferred by the father.
Obama himself admitted he was born a British citizen . . . and with no official witnessed proof of 'born in Hawaii' was presented, that paralegal who read the 1868 congressional record knew that the 14th Amendment did NOT confer citizenship to children of foreign fathers! That was an unconstitutional decision by the 1898 supreme court.
Where was the court then? Blocking any legitimate petition for certiorari, or denying standing in the lower courts.
Mick, is that you??!?!
Not to mention that the Chief Justice appointed the errant judge to the FISA court, where he approved the unlawful surveillance of Mr. Trump.
Yogis_dad: "I'm not just a birther, I'm also into much more boring right wing conspiracies!"
That is, of course, as wrong as everything else Yogis_dad writes.
1) There was no surveillance of Donald Trump. The FISA court approved surveillance of Carter Page.
2) If there's a warrant, it's not unlawful.
3) Boasberg did not in fact, approve any of the FISA warrants against Carter Page. There were four warrants. One was approved by Rosemary Collyer, one by Michael Mosman, one by Anne Conway, and one by Raymond Dearie.
We already knew that Josh had gone over to the dark side. Castigating Chief Justice Roberts for speaking out to protect a lower-court judge who issued an order that seems highly plausible on its face, and speaking out against a President’s call to impeaching judges for making rulings he disagrees with, has stooped well beneath shamelessness.
mr. Blackman should not be too eager to play the role of a modern—day Thomas Cromwell, Henry VIII’s legal hatchetman. After supervising the rolling of numerous heads, he himself was beheaded on the same sorts of trumped-up charges he specialized in.
If history is any guide, being a yes-man to a leader of this sort does not tend to lead to a long life. Mr. Blackman should consider the risks. When the heads start rolling, his could easily be among them. And Mr. Trump’s personality suggests that he may well turn out to favor more painful, humiliating, and personally satisfying forms of death for his personal enemies and those he finds a reason to have grievances against once he consolidates the power to do so - and he can find reasons for grievance rather easily.
Those rumors about Roberts' adoption peccadilloes seem more plausible every day.
The right can't dislike someone in authority without making up a conspiracy theory about them.
The politics of delegitimization.
>The politics of delegitimization.
Hello? Sarcastr0? I'd like to introduce you to Sarcastr0. You don't seem be aware you exist.
Indeed.
From Slate:
Ginsburg was already in Israel to accept a lifetime achievement award from the Genesis Prize Foundation, which paid for her airfare and lodging. The excursion with Kahn was a short side trip, which she scrupulously listed separately (even as she mischaracterized it). Unlike Thomas’ cruises and other vacations with Crow, neither Ginsburg nor Breyer invoked the “personal hospitality” exemption to avoid disclosure.
Blackman is a liar, once again
Slate? Wow, very reputable magazine. Great job.
Oh, wow, a sense of perspective.
Does Judge K have to stand on a stool while you gargle his balls or can you squat low enough on your own?