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In Print: Sweeping Section Three Under the Rug
My latest article with Michael Stokes Paulsen is in print
Just in time for the inauguration today of Donald J. Trump, my second article with Michael Stokes Paulsen is now published in final form in the Harvard Law Review—Sweeping Section Three Under the Rug: A Comment on Trump v. Anderson.
From the introduction:
"Great cases," the saying goes, "like hard cases make bad law." The aphorism, from Justice Holmes's dissent in the Northern Securities case, came with an explanation:
Great cases like hard cases make bad law. For great cases are called great, not by reason of their real importance in shaping the law of the future, but because of some accident of immediate overwhelming interest which appeals to the feelings and distorts the judgment. These immediate interests exercise a kind of hydraulic pressure which makes what previously was clear seem doubtful, and before which even well settled principles of law will bend.
Like so many of Justice Holmes's maxims, this one does not always hold true. Some of the Supreme Court's great successes in constitutional law have also been "great cases" in the Holmesian sense: They concerned an incident "of immediate overwhelming interest" and potentially serious consequence to the life of the nation and were decided under intense public scrutiny and often urgency — and yet they were decided well and soundly. Urgency, high consequence, and public attention at least sometimes combine to concentrate the judicial mind powerfully, to good and memorable effect.
We think of Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer (The Steel Seizure Case) as such a case — perhaps the leading example of exemplary judicial performance under severe time and political pressure, where the stakes were high. Youngstown raced through the judicial process, bottom to top, at breakneck speed, less than eight weeks' time elapsing from President Truman's executive order seizing the nation's steel mills in April 1952 to the Supreme Court's 6–3 decision on June 2 invalidating that order. The Court rose to the occasion magnificently, producing some of the most important, powerfully reasoned judicial opinions concerning fundamental questions of separation of powers in its history.
New York Times Co. v. United States9 (The Pentagon Papers Case) is another "great case" that seems to defy Justice Holmes's axiom, a prominent First Amendment landmark concerning freedom of the press from prior restraint, decided by the Court on an extraordinarily compressed time schedule that made Youngstown look positively leisurely: Two federal appellate courts ruled, differently, on the same day, June 23, 1971, on whether the federal government could obtain an injunction against two newspapers' publishing of classified information. Motions for interim relief and expedited consideration were filed in the Supreme Court the next day, June 24. The Court ordered briefs submitted by June 26, held oral arguments that same day, and issued its judgment and opinions on June 30 — just one week after the lower courts had ruled. Again, the Court rose to the occasion. While there was no single rationale for the judgment — in that sense, the Court did not "make . . . law" at all — the individual opinions of all nine of the Justices combined to form an important 6–3 ruling against the government and for freedom of the press. . .
Some great cases have produced very good judicial decisions. But at least some support Justice Holmes's claim: Sometimes the magnitude of the stakes; the "immediate overwhelming interest" in the outcome; partisan passions; and a sense of urgency compressing the time for analysis and judgment all come together to irretrievably skew the performance of judicial duty. Sometimes great cases overwhelm judges' capacity to engage in careful and principled legal reasoning.
Trump v. Anderson was such a case.
It was a great and momentous case by any measure. It presented the hugely important constitutional question whether a former President of the United States is constitutionally disqualified from holding that office again — or any significant office — by Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment. Specifically, it posed the explosive question whether the 45th President of the United States, having sworn an oath to support the Constitution as President, had subsequently "engaged in" conduct constituting "insurrection or rebellion" against the U.S. constitutional order. The facts found at trial showed that then-President Donald Trump engaged in an attempt to overthrow the lawful result of the presidential election of 2020, including by summoning a mob of supporters to Washington, D.C., on January 6, 2021, and inciting them to attack the Capitol, with the goal of preventing the electoral count from certifying Trump's lawful defeat. The Colorado Supreme Court had held, as a matter of federal constitutional law, that Trump — again a candidate for the presidency in 2024 — was disqualified from that office by Section Three and that this in turn made him legally ineligible to the state's ballot as a matter of Colorado election law. On January 5th, 2024, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear the case and set an expedited briefing schedule with oral arguments to follow on February 8th.
The stakes of the U.S. Supreme Court's decision were high and immediate. If the Court were to agree with the Colorado Supreme Court that Section Three constitutionally barred Trump from the presidency, that would as a practical matter eliminate the leading candidate of one of the two major political parties, upending the nation's political dynamic. Such a holding might have been political dynamite: It could have led to serious domestic political unrest — perhaps even to violence.
The stakes of a decision in the opposite direction were equally enormous. If the Court were to hold, on the merits, that Trump was not constitutionally disqualified by Section Three — on the premise that, notwithstanding the facts found at trial and affirmed on appeal, the events of January 6, 2021, did not legally constitute an "insurrection"; or on the premise that Trump had not "engaged in" the insurrection himself; or on the premise that Section Three did not apply to Trump because the President of the United States is not an "officer of the United States" — that might well have been political dynamite too: Such a decision might be seen as politically motivated or lawless. It might even be seen as licensing Trump's conduct around January 6, 2021, and, more generally, his months-long efforts to overturn the result of the election and maintain himself in power. It might be seen to say that there are no legal consequences for an attempted coup d'etat. It might even enable — and ultimately did enable — the election of a constitutionally ineligible President who had engaged in insurrection against the United States.
Rarely have the stakes of a constitutional issue been so great. Given the high stakes and political consequences of whatever decision the Court reached, the case had "immediate overwhelming interest" to the public. On the merits, the constitutional questions presented by Section Three were not themselves intractable. Trump v. Anderson was a "great case" in terms of importance and urgency, but not a "hard case" in terms of the intrinsic difficulty of the legal questions presented. But the case presented several major constitutional questions, one after another, and several of them were fairly novel. Sorting through the issues presented by Section Three — attending carefully to constitutional text, structure, history, logic, and original meaning, and then faithfully applying that meaning — was not an afternoon's work. (And the Court did not believe it had a great many afternoons left in which to do the requisite work: The March 5 date of the Colorado primary loomed before it, less than a month after the date of oral argument.) Moreover, even if the law itself might not have been all that hard, the challenges of following the law where it led — of overcoming contrary initial instincts, inclinations, and intuitions; of being willing to displease friends, past allies, and powerful political figures or movements — might remain a difficulty.
All in all, the institutional, political, and personal pressures on the Justices presented by Trump v. Anderson were enormous. It is fair to say that Trump v. Anderson required the Justices to rise to the demands of the occasion in a way perhaps unrivaled in the Court's history.
They did not do so. Unlike great cases where the press of time and circumstances had the effect of concentrating the judicial mind to produce important landmark constitutional decisions, the Court produced a flimsy decision in a high-stakes, high-profile, high-intensity, tight-deadline case. Trump v. Anderson is, unfortunately, a prime example of exactly what Justice Holmes was concerned about. It was a "great case" that made risible constitutional law.
Attempting to rule narrowly and clearly, the Court ruled incoherently — leaving more fundamental issues unresolved and others in a state of confusion. Attempting to avoid making sweeping proclamations on major points of constitutional law, the Court ended up making a sweeping proclamation on a major point of constitutional law (and a fundamentally incompetent one at that). Attempting to "settle" a major constitutional dispute, the Court simultaneously settled very little and upended much. Attempting to manufacture a false unanimity, the Court succeeded only in fracturing more seriously. Attempting to sacrifice judicial craft for statesmanship, the Court sacrificed both.
In what follows in this Commentary, we explain exactly where, how, and why the Court went so wrong, and what lessons we should draw going forward.
In Part I, we analyze what the Supreme Court did — and, equally important, what it did not — decide in Trump v. Anderson. A careful reading of the opinions in the case reveals that, in the end, the Court held only that states lack power to enforce Section Three — or any other federal constitutional disqualifications from office — in state-conducted elections for federal elective office.
That is all that it held. The Court did not hold, on the merits, that Trump was eligible to office under the standards of Section Three — it did not say that the Colorado Supreme Court was wrong on this point. The Court did not hold that the presidency is exempt from Section Three. The Court did not hold that the events leading to and culminating in the January 6 attack on the Capitol failed to satisfy the constitutional standard for an "insurrection." Nor did the Court hold that Trump had not "engaged in" that insurrection. The Court did not confront the factual findings or ultimate legal conclusions of the Colorado courts on these points. Nor did the Court hold — though other readers, including even some of the concurring Justices, exhibited confusion on this point — that Section Three's constitutional ban is not "self-executing"; that is, that Section Three is not a directly operative constitutional rule but instead requires enforcement legislation by Congress as a prerequisite to having legal force.
The Court in Trump v. Anderson held none of these things. Nothing in the case contradicts the core conclusion we reached in our prior scholarship: Donald Trump is constitutionally disqualified from the presidency and may not lawfully serve in that office, or any other (unless Congress removes the disqualification by two-thirds majorities of both houses). If Donald Trump was constitutionally ineligible to the presidency on March 3, 2024 — the day before the Court's decision — he remained constitutionally ineligible on March 5, the day after the decision. Trump v. Anderson rejected only a method of enforcing that disqualification — state election law.
In Part II, we evaluate the merits of the Court's one actual holding in Trump v. Anderson — the holding that states lack power to enforce or apply the requirements of Section Three in conducting presidential elections. This holding inverts basic principles of constitutional law. It directly contradicts Article II's designedly state-centric arrangement for presidential elections. Of all the arguments for reversing the Colorado Supreme Court, the Court somehow settled on the worst.
In Part III we consider the lessons of the Court's decision. We first consider and reflect on the mixture of possible motivations of the Justices. What led them to decide the case in this peculiar and unfortunate fashion? We then consider the case's implications for questions of legal interpretive method. The decision and opinions in Trump v. Anderson plainly are not faithful to principles of "originalism." Yet that is the method to which many of the Justices express adherence. (It is our methodology.) Does Trump v. Anderson reveal the bankruptcy, or futility, of originalism as a constitutional interpretive method (as some have charged)? Or does it merely demonstrate the inconsistency, hypocrisy, or error of some of its would-be practitioners?
Finally, we pose questions about the limited scope of Trump v. Anderson going forward. Because the Court chose to sweep Section Three under the rug, rather than directly confronting its meaning and application, it left open a shocking range of possibilities. Is Congress bound, in the exercise of its independent constitutional responsibilities, and especially in the exercise of powers not covered by the Court's decision, to treat the Section Three questions as settled? Might states, as their own laws permit, be able to simply circumvent the Court's decision by exercising directly and explicitly their powers under Article II, section 1, clause 2 of the Constitution with respect to the "Manner" of selecting presidential electors — and thereby award their electoral votes on the basis of Section Three after all? Might courts in future cases need to decide whether Trump — even though elected and inaugurated — can lawfully exercise constitutional authority as President? Did the Court merely postpone the true day of constitutional reckoning?
I realize that many readers disagree with the analysis in our original article, The Sweep and Force of Section Three. But even those who disagree should disagree for better reasons than the ones given by the Supreme Court in Trump v. Anderson. And I realize others may find the issue quite inconvenient or tiresome to keep discussing at this stage, but as we say in the last part of our Commentary:
We have no illusions that any of this will happen, or that the Supreme Court would not intervene to stop it from happening. As this piece goes to press, there seems to be little political will or practical interest in enforcing Section Three. And even if there were, the Supreme Court that decided Trump v. Anderson might well decide other cases in a similar spirit. If called upon to extend the fallacious reasoning of Trump v. Anderson, the Court might well extend it, by hook or by crook. The ominous references in the per curiam to the "acute" "disruption" that might occur "if Section 3 enforcement were attempted after the Nation has voted" and which might "arriv[e] at any time or different times, up to and perhaps beyond the Inauguration" may well have been intended as a shot across the bow, and other constitutional actors may well be afraid of getting shot. The nation having watched the Supreme Court sweep Section Three under the rug, it may well be that nobody will dare to lift the rug up for a long time. But if that is what happens, we should have no illusions that that is what the opinion in Trump v. Anderson actually requires — let alone what the Constitution requires.
Sweeping Section Three Under the Rug: A Comment on Trump v. Anderson.
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“The Court in Trump v. Anderson held none of these things.”
I’m sincerely puzzled by why you would have expected them to rule on any of those things, when “This was outside the state’s jurisdiction” was sufficient to decide the case, and most of those questions were fact intensive.
“As this piece goes to press, there seems to be little political will or practical interest in enforcing Section Three. ”
The Biden DOJ had over three years to charge Trump with Insurrection, and never did it. Address your blame accordingly.
Read the article.
Also 14A3 is not about criminal law.
Yeah, that’s exactly the substance of Baude’s constitutional error. It IS, contingently, about criminal law, because the only enabling legislation at this moment is a criminal law.
Did you even read the article Brett, or just show up to shitpost?
They’re talking about you!
It is absurd to hold that that 14A3 is not self- executing while 14A1 is. The court just made it up. The only parts of the Constitution that are not self- executing are the parts that explicitly say so. Otherwise Congress would have the power to nullify parts of the Constitution just by doing nothing.
This court didn’t make it up, Chief Justice Chase made it up, then Congress acted acquiescing to his opinion.
Kind of ridiculous to try to re-litigate a holding over a century and a half old that was recently confirmed by 6 justices, and the other 3 justices concurred in the decision.
And is now decidedly moot.
Once again: Congress in no way “acquiesced” to circuit justice – not chief justice; he wasn’t acting on behalf of SCOTUS — Chase’s opinion. Not impeaching a judge is not the equivalent of agreeing with a judge.
Randal, you’ve literally got Baude claiming the justices themselves were confused about what they’d ruled. I’m not particularly clear why I should be embarrassed to agree with the Justices rather than Baude about this point. Especially since I’d predicted in advance that this was what they’d rule.
Sneaking it in through a concurrence doesn’t make it a holding.
The specifically talked about Sea Clammers preemption in oral arguments, once Congress acts to provide a.remedy, that is the sole remedy available.
Congress acted to criminalize insurrection, and certainly Congress had that authority under section 5 to determine how section 3 would be enforced, so that became the sole remedy.
And even Jack Smith in his report said his investigation developed no evidence that Trump engaged in an insurrection, which explains why he wasn’t charged with it, nor was anyone else.
Ah, yes, because if they talked about it at oral argument, that makes it a holding.
And even Jack Smith in his report said his investigation developed no evidence that Trump engaged in an insurrection, which explains why he wasn’t charged with it, nor was anyone else.
This strange sentence very wrong. Lack of evidence against Trump certainly doesn’t explain why anyone other than Trump wasn’t charged.
But more importantly, you ommitted the key word “directly.” Smith found no evidence that Trump was directly engaged. Well we knew that. But it’s a pretty safe assumption that indirect engagement also (dis)qualifies. Otherwise, the leaders of insurrections would skate as long as they stayed back from the “front lines” as it were.
Anyway, indirect engagement, such as incitement, is explicitly included under the statute, and Smith had tons of evidence of that. The only point Smith was making was that this is a rarely used statute without a lot of prior convictions to use to pattern a prosecution against. It would be a new kind of case, and that introduces risk.
That’s about remedies. This isn’t a remedy.
That is not in fact what Smith said.
Criminal conviction is one way to disqualify someone, but not the only way.
Yeah, sure, you could convict in an impeachment, too.
Impeachment is also a method to enforce 14A3.
Did you read Trump v. Anderson?
You seem to think it was a lot more directive than it was.
You didn’t NEED Trump v Anderson to know that you could disqualify Trump if you convicted him of the federal crime of insurrection, any more than you needed that ruling to know that actually convicting him in one of the impeachments would do the trick, too.
So, in the end, the people really at fault for frustrating Baude aren’t the Court, they’re Congress and the Biden DOJ. All the Court did in Anderson was put an end to Baude’s dream of disqualifying Trump without all the fuss and bother of actually convicting him of anything.
Oh, and yes, I did read it. I wonder if Baude did, sometimes.
The disqualification clause of the insurrection statute applies to people who wouldn’t be covered under § 3: had Trump been convicted, I am sure there would have been plenty of people (e.g. Profs. Tillman and Blackman) who would have argued that applying it to Trump was unconstitutional.
Well there is “the officers” stuff too, but maybe that will all finally get sorted out in the soon to be revived emoluments cases.
Its going to be a fun four years.
Very good article. Trump is ineligible to be president and the factual record that the Colorado courts developed showed that clearly, as did every other report about the 2020 election. SCOTUS tried to take the easy way out and messed everything up. They had the opportunity to step up to the plate and uphold the Constitution and struck out.
OK, let’s have President Vance.
Can’t. He was elected to the VP office. Those are separate ballots. And since Trump can’t legally be sworn in at all the 25th does not apply.
This is a legal mess that we are stuck with and will “solve” by ignoring the issue.
If he is nonetheless sworn in (expected in two hours, as I write this), wouldn’t the 25th Amendment thereafter apply?
Irrelevant because the issue is being ignored.
The 20th Amendment applies.
If Trump “fails to qualify,” VP Vance “shall act as President until a President shall have qualified.”
The only other option on the table is Harris, which the Republicans (voting as states) in the House won’t do. So, Vance would act as president until January 2029, most likely.
It’s a Veep episode. Which is far from ideal, but better than Trump.
I stand corrected. We should swear in Vance.
To cover all bases, the 14A authorizes the relevant supermajority of Congress to remove the disability. If Congress did so, Trump would be qualified.
That is true, but the Democrats will never vote for that. Nor should they.
At least under the law in the parallel universe where the Supreme Court upheld the CO SC Anderson opinion.
No Harris is not an option on the table:
if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;”
But in any case Trump is no longer President Elect, and Vance is no longer VP Elect, and Harris is no higher up in the line of succession than you or I.
And Trump will remain President until the end of his term or he is impeached again and convicted.
The 20th amendment addresses this scenario.
The article ends with this argument:
The “message Americans should take home” from Trump v. Anderson is that when it wants to, the Supreme Court will find a way to avoid performing its constitutional duties. It will dodge and weave. It will play politics. It will sweep the Constitution under the rug.
A telling statement of the current moment.
Totally. The Roberts Court has destroyed the last shred of credibility that the Supreme Court had about being non-partisan. They are unelected politicians with lifetime positions of power.
“”They are unelected politicians with lifetime positions of power.”
Welcome to the club baby.
So, what are we, as voters that are supposed to have the power in our hands, going to do about it?
Get Congress to amend the Constitution. Lobby the Congress to invoke impeachment.
Oh, you probably meant effective things. No idea on that basis..
Lololol. It was the Roberts Court, huh? Not the New Deal Court? Not the Warren Court? SCOTUS has been politically motivated for decades, if not centuries. Just sucks when it’s not your side that’s in power.
The Warren Court favored “my side”, huh? Was your side the one that wanted to keep segregation then? (Brown) Or maybe your side is the one that wanted to be able to prosecute people that can’t afford an attorney without providing them with one? (Gideon) It could be that your side is the one that wants the government to mandate that public schools recite the Lord’s Prayer and read from the Bible every day to all students. (Abington School District v. Schempp) On the flip side of that, maybe it was your side that thought that the government didn’t need to meet strict scrutiny before a law burdened someone’s free exercise of religion. (Sherbert v. Verner)
I bet your side would love to go back to before “one person, one vote” and be able to simply create lots of legislative districts with a few people that think like you, while cramming several times as many people that you disagree with into just a handful of legislative districts. (Reynolds v. Sims) Also, is your side the one that didn’t want the 4th and 5th Amendments incorporated to prevents states from violating your rights against unreasonable searches or to avoid self-incrimination? If so, then your side probably doesn’t think that law enforcement has any duty to inform people of their 5th and 6th Amendment rights before interrogating them. (Miranda) Also along those lines, no doubt your side disagrees with the Warren Court that ruled that the government wiretapping your phone or other electronic communications constitutes a search or seizure for 4th Amendment purposes. (Katz v. United States)
“Was your side the one that wanted to keep segregation then? (Brown) ”
Civil rights was just about the only thing Warren got right. He largely floated behind the public though, as seen by the dumb “all deliberate speed” cases.
Most of those other cases were bad. Bad policy or not justified by the actual Constitution, or both.
I’m not as familiar with the New Deal Court’s record, and I’ve already spent far more time looking up details than I should have needed to do. Maybe you’ve got a point there, especially given the court packing threats FDR is infamous for making.
Regardless, I find “Just sucks when it’s not your side that’s in power” to be an admission that you’re happy that your side has the power now and principles don’t actually matter to you. Accusing me of hypocrisy and then following that up with an argument on how to apply principles in an unbiased way is something I could respect and be a cause for some needed self-reflection to see if you were right. What you did, though? Nah, that just warrants replying in kind.
As I see it, the fundamental problem with Trump v. Anderson was completely destroying the power of legislatures to determine the manner of appointing Presidential electors. Under any reasonable interpretation of the appointment power that takes the power granted state legislatures seriously, if state legislatures have the power to appoint the electors themselves, as they undoubtedly do, and if they have the power to delegate the decision to the citizenry, as they undoubtedly do, then by any rational constitutional analysis they ought equally to have the power to compromise between the two and adopt a hybrid approach whereby they make part of the decision and the electorate makes part. A system whereby the legislature establishes qualifications for electors and the voters choose only among those qualified is exactly such a hybrid approach. And of course requiring electors to pledge to vote only for a qualified candidate is no less legitimate a qualification a legislature can pose on electors than requiring them to make any other kind of pledge.
The Court’s nonsense about the nation needing a uniform system of selecting presidents because of the supposed chaos that would happen if each state were to decide itself is nothing less than an invitation to tyrrany. The chaos that happens when different people and jurisdictions want things done different ways is precisely what our federated, constitutional republic is all about! Keeping our federal republic requires a high tolerance for chaos, not least of which is the chaos that inevitably arises when different states use theier powers to do things in different ways.
Mark my words. If a future court comprised of lackeys of an autocrat proclaims that henceforth Presidents will choose their own successors because of the need for uniformity and continuity of policy and avoiding the chaos and lack of predictability that arises when different administrations are permitted to have different policies, bot only will they cite this case as authority, but that future decision will be every bit as legitimate as Trump v. Anderson was, which is to say not legitimate at all. A lack of tolerance of “chaos,” which is to say the variation that inevitably comes with differences of opinion and policy, is a lack of tolerance for a pluralistic society. A foolish intolerance of that “chaos” is the hobgoblin of the autocratic mind.
The Constitution of the United States is no more a completely democratic constitution than the Weimar Constitution was a socialist constitution. At the founding the citizenry had a direct say in only one branch of Congress, But much as the leader of the Socialist Party said in the last speech made before a free Reichstag before the Enabling Act, while the Constitution of the United States is by no means a perfect constitution, nonetheless I will stand by it, warts and all, against people seeking to overthrow it to institute their idea of perfection.
The power of state legislatures to determine the manner of appointing Presidential electors as they see fit – whatever manner they want – necessarily includes a power to prohibit electors from pledging their votes to individuals who do not possess whatever qualifications the legislature, or another body like the courts if the legislature so decides, determines are appropriate for someone the state will throw its electoral college suppoet behind to have. A hybrid appointment process ought to be completely constitutional. And as long as every voter gets an equal share in whatever part of the decision the legislature decides the general citizenry should make, equal protection is satisfied.
This idea that if any part of the decision is delegated to the citizenry, wanna-be presidents somehow have some sort of First Amendment right to appear on the ballot and legislators can’t interfere, is as nonsensical as the idea that if the President delegates part of his power to make the decision about appointing judges to the ABA, woanna-be judges somehow acquire a First Amendment power to appear before the ABA and make their case to them. It’s nonsense. Just as the President can give the ABA a list of names and ask it to say which they think most qualified, a legislature can give the electorate a list of names and ask them to pick among only those names. And instead of names, it could give qualification rules as a filter.
The idea that there is a uniform way of conducting “federal elections” is also nonsense. The constitution provides for completely different methods for presidential and Congressional elections. Indeed this very uniformity principle permits a a future Supreme Court to justify granting an autocratic president the power to punish Hamiltonian citizen-electors when they seek to vote for an unauthorized candidate for Congress.
After all, if in EVERY federal election uniformly, state legislators can’t interfere with who’s on the ballot, and in EVERY federal election, the electors only get to cast ballots as they’re told and being an elector implies no say in who gets elected, who do you think gets to call the shots? Who’s left? States can’t interfere. Electors can’t interfere. Who then decides? Who do you think?
Trump v. Anderson’s extra- (indeed anti-) constitutional uniformity requirement provides a clear path and gives an authoritative Supreme Court imprimatur to future autocratic Presidents appointing not only their own successors but the members of Congress as well, with all electors in all federal elections uniformly performing only a formal, ceremonial role of casting official ceremonial ballots which are then officially, ceremonially counted to reach a predetermined result.
Many autocracies have or have had this system. Ours could too. Trump v. Anderson provides a recipe for getting us there.
Trump v Anderson was completely orthogonal to the qualifications to be an elector. Colorado was perfectly entitled to say of electors for all candidates, that they could not be electors if the state determined by whatever process it wanted that they were guilty of insurrection. It could say that they couldn’t be electors if the state thought they were guilty of double parking!
But they weren’t telling people that they were disqualified from being electors. They were telling people that Trump was disqualified from HAVING electors. Which was about federal qualification for the office of President, not a state qualification for the office of elector.
Yes, that is the point. Colorado was looking at the federal requirements for president and saw that Trump was not eligible. SCOTUS should have ruled on the merits of the case.
That Colorado wasn’t entitled to do that WAS the merits of the case actually before them.
That is what the court ruled, but they were in error.
No, they were exactly right: If a court lacks jurisdiction over an issue, a higher court doesn’t have to address the merits of their decision in overturning it; The lack of jurisdiction IS the merit before the higher court.
But they weren’t telling people that they were disqualified from being electors. They were telling people that Trump was disqualified from HAVING electors. Which was about federal qualification for the office of President, not a state qualification for the office of elector.
Um, yeah? You can’t be an Elector pledged to a candidate that is not eligible to be President. Sounds like Colorado was setting qualifications on being an Elector to me.
But Colorado has no right to determine if a federal candidate is disqualified under the 14th amendment.
Of course not. The only right the Colorado legislature has is, as the Hamtonian Electors cases said, to control who its presidential electors are permitted to cast their ballots for. Nothing to do with who is qualified in any absolute sense. Nobody says the loser of Colorado’s popular ballot isn’t qualified to be president. He’s just not qualified to be the reciepient of Colorado’s electoral votes. Same here.
Exactly. Colorado’s logic could be framed this way:
No Colorado electors shall be pledged to vote for a candidate deemed by Colorado (through its courts or some other mechanism) to be uncertain to qualify for office. By extension, no such candidate is permitted to appear on Colorado ballots.
I suppose they could make ballot access contingent on some rando’s opinion about whether a candidate was an insurrectionist. Did they?
Yes, they did. The rando was the Colorado Supreme Court.
The constitution imposes no requirement that a popular ballot occur before electors are appointed, let alone that electors have to consider that poll in deciding who to vote for. So whenever a state requires that its electors vote only for the individual who wins its popular ballot, they are doning nothing more nor less than impose a purely state-law qualification on who can be elected president.
Requiring electors to pledge to vote for a cadidate who has both won the popular ballot and has not engaged in insurrection is simply imposing the same kind of extra-constitutional qualification as requiring electors to pledge to vote for only the candidate who has won the popular ballot.
By your logic, citizens shouldn’t be permitted to interfere with who is selected President. This whole business of having citizens involved in any way is, in its entirety, a purely extra-constitutional state-law qualification imposed on whom the Presidential Electors are permitted to select to cast their electoral ballots for to elect as President. Nothing in the Constitution says anything about citizens being permitted to interfere or add new qualifications to whom Presidential Electors are permitted to cast their ballots for.
Candidates do not “own” electors.
That is, in most states the ballot cast at the Presidential election, the one that takes place in December has only one name pre-printed on it. If states can appoint whomever they want as presidential electors but can’t place limits on or add additional qualifications to whom electors can elect at federal elections, the ballot ought to be blank.
The Hamiltonian Electors cases made mincemeat of that argument. Having to have won a prior state-law popular ballot to be eligible to be on the Presidential electoral ballot is a conpletely permissable qualification for being elected President, one that appears nowhere in the Constitution and is purely an invention of statw legislatures. Other qualifications should be treated no differently.
Not when a qualification conflicts with the Constitution. For example, Colorado isn’t going to get away with not permitting someone over the age of 70 to being on the electoral ballot.
I agree the Equal Protection Clause, which limits all of a state legislature’s powers, also limits a state legislature’s appointment powers. So while a state legislature can pledge electors to vote for a specific individual, it can’t require them to pledge to vote for e.g. only a white male. Similarly, I agree every citizen has to get an equal portion of whatever part of the overall decision a state legislature delegates to the electorate.
But the kinds of limitations we’re talking about don’t violate the Equal Protection Clause.
Counselor, just to confirm. Are you arguing Colorado can prevent someone over the age of 70 from getting any of Colorado’s electoral votes (age is not a suspect classification)?
In Part II, we evaluate the merits of the Court’s one actual holding in Trump v. Anderson — the holding that states lack power to enforce or apply the requirements of Section Three in conducting presidential elections. This holding inverts basic principles of constitutional law. It directly contradicts Article II’s designedly state-centric arrangement for presidential elections. Of all the arguments for reversing the Colorado Supreme Court, the Court somehow settled on the worst.
This is also why it was ludicrous from the beginning to think that Jan. 6, 2021 could have changed the result and stopped Biden from taking office. The states had cast their votes. Congress was just there to say, “Yes, we’ve received the certificates declaring each state’s Electoral Votes,” publicly count the votes, and only if there wasn’t a majority for one candidate, do anything else.
The crisis that led to the Electoral Count Act of 1887 was a dispute over which state officials should be believed regarding who the Electors were for a state. It had a “safe harbor” provision that specifically forbids Congress from rejecting the votes that were certified within a state as final by a certain date ahead of the meeting of the Electors. (I couldn’t easily find out whether the results in the disputed states had all been finalized and signed by the governors of those states by this safe harbor deadline. I’ve never heard that they weren’t, though.)
The events of Jan. 6, 2021 weren’t just based on lies about fraud. They were based on a lie that there was anything Congress could legitimately do about it on that day. The states had spoken, and that should have been the end of it.
You have a bit more faith in how much you can rely on the courts to force Congress to follow the law than I do. If Congress HAD voted that Trump was the winner, the Court would likely have declared it a nonjudiciable political matter.
I agree that the court would have done nothing, given this is the same court gave Trump immunity and refused to enforce 14A3.
You have a bit more faith in how much you can rely on the courts to force Congress to follow the law than I do. If Congress HAD voted that Trump was the winner, the Court would likely have declared it a nonjudiciable political matter.
Well, I don’t rely completely on the courts to force Congress to follow the law, because judges are always subject to their own political biases as well as having been appointed by partisan politicians. The last line of defense is always voters themselves. What I had hoped, perhaps naively, was that a majority of voters wouldn’t re-elect members of Congress that so obviously ignored the law and the Constitution in favor of their personal political goals. But any illusion that American voters, as a group, value the rule of law and constitutional order above their own partisan preferences is gone from my mind.
You’d only see a scenario like that in a close election where the pseudo-winner’s party was the majority in the legislature, so you’d presumptively have both elected branches on the same side of the argument.
And, frankly, I don’t think Trump’s scheme was going to work even if the January 6th break in hadn’t interrupted it, because it required a high degree of unanimity on the part of Republican members of Congress; Even a few defectors and it would fail.
I think it would be a great idea to just take Congress out of the loop entirely, get rid of the electors, and mandate a runoff election if nobody got a majority of the EC, but we saw in 2000 a bigger vulnerability of the system: State level extra-legal hijinks in a state that comprised the winning margin in the election.
And Democrats are still mad Gore didn’t succeed in stealing that election, so I don’t think they really have moral authority in the case of 2020.
Once again: the J6 break-in was part of the scheme; it didn’t “interrupt” anything. And note that even after that break-in had failed, Republican members of Congress were too cowardly to vote to impeach him. The notion that they’d have defected from him if his scheme had worked is implausible.
If it was part of the “scheme” (which sounds strangely similar to a conspiracy, but obviously not since that is a legal term of art used in the law), then it should be no problem to show that Trump:
– ordered the Code Red
– coordinated and/or planned with those who breached the Capitol perimeter to BREACH THE CAPITOL PERIMETER
-knew that the Capitol perimeter would possibly be breached, and had a plan to capitalize on it
Oh wait…
Just like Russia collusion (as partisans mean it, that Trump personally coordinated with the Russians and/or had knowledge of Russian actions to “steal” the 2016 election, somehow), there was no evidence for Jack Smith to find, because there was no evidence for Jack Smith to find.
He openly did those things! There’s a weird phenomenon with Trump that when he would publicly say things — like asking Russia to hack Hillary’s emails — his followers would pretend that these things didn’t count because he said them openly. It’s like, if he had sent a secret message to Putin saying the exact same thing, they’d accept that this represented malfeasance, but because he did it overtly, it couldn’t be taken seriously.
And as for a “plan to capitalize on it,” he did! As soon as it happened, he had Rudy start working the phones to convince GOP senators to postpone certification. We know this, because incompetent Rudy misdialed and left messages for the wrong people.
The things you describe are NOT him doing the things I asked about.
But you knew that. It shows the level of your derangement that you attribute public statements, which we all witnessed in real time, as “proof” of collusion. But then that was the theory of the first Ukraine impeachment too. It’s bad because the Orange Man did it. I have voted for him, because I independently decided he was bad. I didn’t have to make things up like this.
Postponing the certification would not make him president. I would have made Nancy Pelosi Acting President (assuming she accepted) at noon on January 20, 2017.
Their “plan”, such as it was, was to disqualify enough electoral votes to throw the race in the House. What I’ve come to call the underwear gnome phase 2. If they had accomplished that, it would have been terrible, but not illegal. Anyone with half a brain could understand that storming the Capitol had the opposite effect of discrediting the whole plan. The point of the crowd was to show popular support for that idea. Not to threaten Congress to do it. It’s fundamentally un-American and de-legitimizing to have violence decide an election result.
But I guess The Resistance™, who maintained an approving silence over the mostly peaceful BLM summer riots and the simmering nonsense at the Portland OR courthouse, didn’t understand that, because being leftists, they secretly agree that violence is sometimes the answer.
You literally just made my point for me that I just said above: this weird notion that him doing it in public means that it doesn’t count.
It was not. You think his “perfect” call with Ukraine, that he tried to bury, was “public”?
He didn’t want to delay it past January 20. He wanted to delay it to give him time to pressure GOP swing state legislatures to change their states’ electoral votes. (The alternative plan was indeed to toss out those states’ votes entirely.)
Baude is like a pig who rolls in slop all day but thinks he smells like a rose.
9-0 on the key question. He couldn’t even get the Unwise Latina or Not a Biologist on his side. Sad.
Yes, he cannot accept that his theory that Section 3 is self-executing, because Trump has to be guilty of insurrection because he wanted to stay in office, is not supported by the history of Section 3 enforcement against actual known insurrectionists.
Because what Trump did, even if we put it in the worst possible light like a motion to dismiss, did not match what actual insurrectionists have done throughout history. THAT is the extent to which Section 3 is “self-executing”, against those for whom their is no dispute about whether they committed insurrection.
Because they:
A. We captured as POWs in a rebel army
B. Served in a rebel government, swearing an oath of allegiance to something not under the US Constitution.
There are of course other ways to qualify as an insurrectionist, but they cannot be defined by a state court for actions that happened outside of that state. They would need to defined, specifically, by law. Some law, some where. Not a political argument that someone is an insurrectionist, who neither took up arms or had any involvement in directing or coordinating the insurrectionist actions.
Not only is that utterly nonsensical as a matter of law, but it’s also something you completely made up, and is not the holding of Trump v. Anderson. If Trump had been running for governor, nothing in Trump v. Anderson even hints that the Colorado courts couldn’t define insurrectionist for actions that happened outside of that state. Where the actions happened are utterly unrelated to the 14th amendment.
Because there were other questions to litigate, perhaps easier to pursue and win on, we will never know whether, in the case of a state office election, there would still be a federal due process violation to pursue in a federal court, under section 3.
Just because that question was not raised, doesn’t mean it could not be an issue to be vindicated on.
I will say again, and this is why Baude’s presumption that of course Trump is an insurrectionist is fatally flawed, because such a determination is not factual in the same sense that age or citizenship status are. Even if a state court purports to undertake a finding of facts. It is nothing like being a captured POW of a rebel army, or serving in a rebel government. Which is the historic understanding of insurrection.
Trump v. Anderson decided a limited thing and the justices split 5-1-3 on exactly what that limited thing should be. There has continuously been some confusion about the details.
People can support the opinion but it is not as if SCOTUS is correct because it was (somewhat) unanimous or nearly so.
People around here don’t just say “Oh well” to the 7-2 Roe v. Wade opinion or say “Well it was 8-1, so Plessy v. Fergusion must have been correct.”
It also isn’t improper to continue to dissent when there is no ability to change the result. Plus, more than some places, this blog is upfront about being “sometimes contrarian.”
The first insurrection that involved no weapons and a boring speech,
Not even close to the first. Google “bloodless coup”. Insurrection and coups rely on a government illegally assuming power, not whether they had weapons or good speeches.
“Bloodless coup” is a figurative use of “coup”, since “coup”, by its very meaning, requires violence. And, in any event, the Constitution specifies insurrection, not coup.
And as I point out, the Biden DOJ had most of 4 years to indict him for anything that actually would have carried disqualification as a penalty, and never did. Because the career lawyers there knew they didn’t remotely have a case.
The only definition of “Coup” that requires violence is the one MAGAs use to excuse what Trump did.
Merriam Webster: ” a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics and especially the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group “
Right, because the dictionary is the only source for finding meaning in words. And then, only the dictionary that states it the way you want.
coup (American Heritage Dictionary)
n. pl. coups
1. A brilliantly executed stratagem; a triumph.
2.
a. A coup d’état.
b. A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover: a boardroom coup.
3. Among certain Native American peoples, a feat of bravery performed in battle, especially the touching of an enemy’s body without causing injury.
I think I adequately refuted Molly’s absolutist claim about “no” definition.
I hardly think Democrats, or Baude, wanted to accuse Trump of a brilliantly executed stratagem or triumph. Or of running across the stage and conking Biden on the head, for that matter.
Trump, not being involved in the violence, was not party to an attempted coup d’etat. And this is the only meaning of “coup” that corresponds to “insurrection”.
To deny Trump attempted a coup one must deny objective facts, something MAGAs are great at.
“A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover: a boardroom coup”
That last one is intended as an example of the use of the word in the sense of 2.b.’s definition. Unless you think “a boardroom coup” has to involve violence, that definition certainly fits what Trump did.
I think I adequately refuted Molly’s absolutist claim about “no” definition.
And I’ve more than adequately refuted your absolutist claim that Trump didn’t engage in an insurrection because he wasn’t involved in the violence. (Which means, by the way, that you also have an odd definition for what “involved” means.)
Most people think of violent action to overthrow a legitimate government when they hear the word, but “self-coup” or “autocoup” have been terms used in historical contexts and within political science for a least a few decades.
And, in any event, the Constitution specifies insurrection, not coup.
Word games. “Coup d’etat” is borrowed from the French, obviously, and I don’t think it even started to come into use until Napoleon. I doubt it was in such widespread use in English, especially among American political leaders, that they would even think of whether to include it in the 14th Amendment. Besides, if “insurrection” is defined as denying and resisting the lawful authority of the government, then a coup is also an insurrection, I would say. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
Sure, that’s quibbling, except that the term “coup” is being used here to imply that Trump was actually responsible for the violence that took place, rather than just his electoral count scheme. The definition involving violence is thus central to my objection to using the term.
But the real meat is my second point, that they had nearly 4 years to follow the legally dictated procedure for applying that disqualification, and didn’t lift a finger to do it.
Because even if they had proven legally that an insurrection had taken place, they had no evidence that Trump was party to it.
Other than all his words, anyway.
Trump’s coup included the fake electors, pressuring Pence to throw out EC votes, and trying to get election officials to declare him the winner. It is a MAGA lie that there were not other actions other than J6.
Those things are not a coup. They are lawfare and politics.
Not. A. Coup.
I say this as someone glad that Biden won in 2020, who believes he did win in 2020, as I have never voted for Trump.
Not everything bad is illegal.
Yes, we get it. You want to make Trump’s legal and political campaign about the election being stolen the “bloodless coup”.
Not how that works. Not how any of that works. He had every right to pursue that campaign. Up to and including lobbying members of Congress to support his position. That’s not a coup. It’s a legal loophole.
If somehow, stupidly, Congress had decided things his way, it would would have been perfectly legal. However awful and unfair that outcome would have been. At any rate, that is still not insurrection.
He did not; there is no right to file a frivolous lawsuit based on false factual and legal claims. Or to threaten state officials to change election results. Nor is there a right to forge legal documents.
It would not have been; Congress has no authority to do so. Nor, obviously, does the Vice President.
Whether his lawsuits were frivolous or not, he has right to try that. It’s not “illegal”, but may be civilly sanctionable, sure.
Nobody forged legal documents. I’ve said this elsewhere before, as long as the “fake” electoral ballots did not forge a government officials signature or seal, they are not illegal. The are a petition, protected by the First Amendment. They were used by Trump lawyers as props.
Congress had a procedure, under the existing ECA, to disqualify ballots. So yes, it had authority to do that. Which would have been a terrible destruction of norms. But it absolutely had that authority ultimately. Any Pence unilateral decision would have been appealed to both houses.
It’s ridiculous how you people work backwards from your partisan conclusions.
There is no “right” to file frivolous pleadings, which is precisely why it’s sanctionable. It is in fact illegal. (Perhaps you mistakenly think illegal and criminal mean the same thing? They don’t. It is illegal to fire someone for being black; it is not criminal.)
Is that your legal opinion as an engineer? They were sworn documents attesting to be the votes of the states’ duly qualified electors. But falsely so. That is indeed illegal. The right to petition does not include the right to lie.
Only if there was a dispute about those electoral ballots. (Not about the popular vote in the state.)
Only if there was a dispute about those electoral ballots. (Not about the popular vote in the state.)
This is something I have been trying to get across the defenders of Jan. 6. Those objections that congresspersons have made in the past, along with the ones made in 2021, where wrong as a matter of constitutional procedures and principles. In the absence of any controversy over who the proper Electors of a state are, Congress has only two jobs on Jan. 6: 1) Witness the opening and counting of the Electoral Votes of each state and D.C. 2) The House convenes to vote for President if there isn’t a majority of EVs for one candidate.
If the governor of a state has signed off on the slate of Electors, and there aren’t any pending challenges in state or federal courts on Jan. 6, then there is no controversy over who the proper electors are.
The main point of contention in the original controversy that led to the Electoral Count Act of 1887 was when Republicans claimed victory for governor in Florida, South Carolina, and Louisiana, and those Republicans certified Hayes as having won their states. Meanwhile, southern Democrats claimed victory in those races and set up their own dissident governments and governors that certified Tilden as having won their states’ electors.
So, there was a very real controversy over who was the ‘real’ governor and which slate of electors was the ‘real’ one for that state, and Congress had to find some way to deal with the constitutional crisis occurring in real time. No such controversy existed in the 2020 election, so Congress had nothing to resolve.
I don’t really understand the point of running a law review that is perpetually and implacably hostile to the law as it actually exists. I mean, who is supposed to read Baude’s article, and what are they supposed to do with it?
Maybe Baude sees himself as the John Ely of our day, whose critique of the Supreme Court will be vindicated in 50 years. My guess is that such an event will only happen if people demonstrate against Trump v. Anderson on the steps of the Supreme Court every year for the next 50 years, which I think is surpassingly unlikely.
You can earn a lot of cred in certain circles by publicly espousing positions hostile to Trump, even if they’re losers in court. Baude IS an academic, after all.
Brett Bellmore is criticizing someone for articulating and advocating a view of the best understanding of the constitution even though the Supreme Court has reached a different conclusion.
It’s like rain on your wedding day.
Or ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.
Old precedents are overturned from time to time.
Law reviews regularly include articles challenging the law as it now is, offering competing views and thought experiments.
What does “perpetually and implacably hostile to the law as it actually exists” mean? Is Harvard Law Review being referenced? Or a specific law review article? Not sure how “perpetual” and “implacably” arise there. Are they not open to different views on certain facts or arguments in the article if things change?
BTW, just to put it out there, Ely supported upholding Roe v. Wade on precedential grounds and sent a thank you later to the plurality that wrote Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
thank you letter … thank you later is amusing though
Law reviews are not textbooks; they do not exist simply to summarize what the courts have said. And I’m sure any law review article author would be thrilled to persuade as many people as possible, but it’s an academic undertaking, not a political one.
OK, but I don’t see the point in that academic enterprise. It has nothing to do with the practice of law. It isn’t even relevant to the practice of Constitutional law–an enterprise in which very Harvard graduates will ever engage–which requires arguing from precedent.
But I guess the answer of what someone is supposed to do with Baude’s article is nothing: it’s purely academic.
A law review article in an academic publication is academic, yes.
Why would it not be “relevant to the practice of Constitutional law” to discuss what the Supreme Court decided, covering various arguments? SCOTUS itself cites law review articles as do briefs.
If law professors can write about the influence of Immanuel Kant on evidentiary approaches in 18th-century Bulgaria, they can certainly write about the meaning of a constitutional provision.
A liberal SC justice during arguments: “Are you saying a single state should decide for the nation who should be the next president?”
“YESSSSS!!” scream Lovers of Democracy.
This was of course a nonsensical question, since Colorado was only deciding who could be on Colorado’s ballot, not who could be voted on/elected by any other state.
A point lost on the MAGAs.
This ignores the other legal question (which of course Bauden ignores too, in his zeal to see Trump disqualified) about WHEN disqualification kicks in, and how that intersects with Section 3. There is the very plausible argument (which collides with an office/officer of the United States whether it even applies to the presidency) that Section 3 only prevents a disqualified insurrectionist from taking office, not being elected to it. (Again, the Civil War example of late Reconstruction, when Confederate states tried to push the limits.)
If people were making that very narrow argument, that this was only Colorado deciding the question for Colorado, I might be sympathetic. Pretty much nobody is limiting the question as such. They would very much like to say: hey Colorado decided he’s a disqualified insurrectionist, that settles it for everybody.
That was part of the Supreme Court’s reasoning, that this is not a permissible form of federalism under the Constitution. Individual states are not allowed to add additional qualifications (like term limits) just for their congressmen and senators. States not applying a uniform threshold of insurrection being equally repugnant to the Constitution.
Maybe if federal election law didn’t already reach its tentacles into the way states administer elections, one could allow that kind of freedom. Sorry, that ship has sailed.
I get that this is a blog run by law professors, whose job description includes finding and considering nonsensical arguments as if they were serious. And trying to distinguish whether Sect. 3 only prevents an insurrectionist from taking office vs whether it also prevents them from being elected to that office is a nonsensical line to try and draw.
Personally, I think that people interpreting the constitution and the law more generally should work harder to avoid opening either up to loopholes that go against the plainly obvious goals of the law and Constitution.
States not applying a uniform threshold of insurrection being equally repugnant to the Constitution.
I don’t see where SCOTUS argued that the problem with Colorado’s ruling was that it wasn’t going to involve a uniform threshold for insurrection. After all, what would have stopped SCOTUS from drawing a line for every state to apply?
Except nobody was making that last argument; it’s a complete strawman. When Maine also disqualified Trump, it did so based on an independnent determination, not based on “Colorado said so, so that settles it.”
SCOTUS oral arguments proved otherwise. Even if that particular detail did not end up explicitly in the opinion. It was a supporting factor in the opinion that Congress needed to pass implementing legislation. So that ALL states would be operating under the same rules.
It’s amusing how you guys dismiss things so cavalierly that are contrary to your assumptions.
SCOTUS did not say that “Congress needed to pass implementing legislation.”
Love Paulsen and Baud, but sheesh, you guys are like those Japanese fighters they found on some remote island in the Pacific who didn’t know that the war had ended.
Good analogy. Not only is this election over, but the insurrection stuff applied to the Civil War, and it should definitely be over.
I’m sure I’ve just been overlooking the part of Sect. 3 that said it only applied to former Confederates and that Sect. 3 would expire once they were all dead.
While I agree that their decision was atextual, ahistorical, and nonsensical, I can’t agree with this conclusion. If they were determined to reverse the Colorado Supct — and they were — they picked the one that did the least damage. Any of the things you note they didn’t say, if they had said, would have been far worse.
In my view, the least “damaging” decision (for constitutional law) would have been saying that Section Three is directly enforceable by states, but that the record did not suffice to establish that Trump had engaged in insurrection.
The thing is that perhaps the Court would not have been able to be unanimous in that result and thought it better to leave that determination to voters.
The thing is that perhaps the Court would not have been able to be unanimous in that result and thought it better to leave that determination to voters.
One of the things that the Constitution is supposed to do is to protect all of the people from the whims of a temporary majority. If the Constitution says that someone that engaged in insurrection is ineligible to be President, then that provision is there specifically to take it out of the hands of the voters of the moment. That is why there is also a mechanism for Congress to override that provision if there is a larger, more durable majority that still wants that person to be President, despite their past actions.
In fact, that is what the Supreme Court should have considered. Let individual states rule that the Constitution bars someone from running due to engaging in insurrection, but leave it to a 2/3 majority of Congress to remove that ineligibility if there is the political will to do so.
One should also note that none of this would have mattered had 10 GOP Senators had the same integrity as the 7 that did vote to convict him in the second impeachment.
https://www.justsecurity.org/74725/in-their-own-words-the-43-republicans-explanations-of-their-votes-not-to-convict-trump-in-impeachment-trial/
Eight dodged voting to convict him on claims that someone can’t be impeached once out of office, even though they placed various amounts of blame for Jan 6 on him. (That makes no sense to me, as removal from office isn’t the only possible penalty for being convicted upon impeachment. Being barred from future office is also a potential penalty, and being able to resign in order to avoid that seems like a dumb loophole.) Five more voted to acquit despite criticizing Trump’s actions, and their reasoning included some additional points besides the jurisdiction question. 19 more only offered the jurisdiction arguments, but didn’t defend or criticize Trump directly. And 4 didn’t explain their votes at the time.
The Democrat House deliberately delayed the impeachment until Trump was out of office. And there was no real crime. It was all just a show to make Democrats happy.
Back assward. The House voted on articles of impeachment on Jan. 13, exactly one week after the assault on the Capitol. The Senate wasn’t meeting and wasn’t scheduled to do so until Jan. 19. Mitch could easily have moved that up, but he didn’t, because he didn’t want to.
What a shock: Roger is a liar. He was impeached while he was still in office.
I read through the article.
I put aside the assumptions about originalism that I find wrongminded. One thing that I wonder about is what exactly is their bottom line. If Trump v. Anderson is a limited opinion that leaves open federal action, what should happen?
Under the logic of the argument, Trump is not qualified to be in office & thus can’t appoint prosecutors or nominate judges. So, e.g., should lawsuits be made to challenge the legitimacy of the acts of such individuals? Will they write supportive amicus briefs?
As they say, it is somewhat moot — if such an attempt is made, and I assume someone will try, the “narrow” reading of the opinion will be stretched. So, perhaps, the concurrence was correct in the long run to be concerned about the “breadcrumbs” left in that it found functionally to mean more than they literally did.