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No Sealing of Transgender Prisoner's Case
The prisoner had argued that other inmates were accessing the case documents, and as a result were urging other inmates to beat, rape, and kill the prisoner, apparently because of information in the court file related to the crime of which the prisoner had been convicted.
From Judge Scott Rash (D. Ariz.) Monday in Fly v. Diaz:
As relevant here, in the First Amended Complaint, Plaintiff asserted claims of sexual assault, threat to safety, and equal protection based on events that occurred while she was in custody at the United States Penitentiary (USP)-Tucson. {Plaintiff identifies as transgender and is also known as Toni Fly. The Court will use feminine pronouns to refer to Plaintiff.}
In Count One, Plaintiff alleged Defendants Campbell, Vasquez, and Christiansen used excessive force against her. In Count Three, Plaintiff alleged Defendants Vasquez, Gutierrez, and Wade failed to protect her from an imminent threat of assault. In Count Five, Plaintiff alleged Defendants treated her differently; placed her at risk of sexual abuse, sexual and physical assault, sexual harassment, and rape; and denied her medical treatment, access to administrative remedies and the courts, due process, equal protection, and security in her person solely because of her transgender status. Plaintiff claimed she had been denied medical care and a safe housing assignment at a female facility because she is transgender. Plaintiff alleged she had been denied medically necessary "social role transition therapy," including gender affirming surgery, as well as assignment to a female facility for her health and safety.
In her Motion for Temporary Restraining Order, Plaintiff sought an order requiring Defendants to: immediately provide all "gender confirmation surgeries"; immediately transfer and place Plaintiff in a female housing unit or facility with non-violent females; immediately restore Plaintiff to a single cell; restore all Plaintiff's medical treatments; restore all medical duty status accommodations and medications; restore all email, telephone, visit, and postal correspondence privileges to Plaintiff; provide all "social role" transition therapy; stop the abuse, harassment, mutilation, and rape of Plaintiff; keep Plaintiff separate from all male prisoners and staff; and stop obstructing Plaintiff's mail correspondence. In addition, Plaintiff sought an order barring Defendants from ever placing Plaintiff in a Special Housing Unit, Special Management Unit, or Administrative Maximum cell, or any USP, Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) medium, or FCI low custody facility for male prisoners….
The court rejects the claim (for more, read the opinion), but also has this to say about plaintiff's motion to seal:
In Plaintiff's Motion to Seal, filed while she was in custody at FCI-Fairton, Plaintiff asks the Court to seal "the entire record" because she has been sexually and physically assaulted "due to the findings of the Court" in her criminal proceedings; Defendants previously moved to seal information threatening the safety, security, and orderly administration of the BOP, its prisoners, and Plaintiff in particular; and prisoners at FCI-Fairton are now threatening Plaintiff and "telling other inmates to pull this case" and another one of Plaintiff's cases that was sealed in North Dakota at the request of the United States Attorney "to read what it says about Plaintiff's criminal charge."
Plaintiff alleges Defendant Christiansen and other Defendants informed prisoners of "sealed information to incite sexual and physical assault upon Plaintiff." She claims prisoners are "threatening to stab her and kill her due to this information on TRULINCS and pacer.gov," and as result, she is now in the Special Housing Unit (SHU) under "elevated protective custody" status. Plaintiff identifies one prisoner whom she alleges attempted to sexually abuse her in her cell and is now in the SHU "telling all inmates to beat, rape, and kill Plaintiff, and telling them to look up this instant case…to incite them to do this harm to Plaintiff."
The public has a right to inspect judicial documents and records. Although this right is not absolute, there is a strong presumption in favor of access to judicial records. A party seeking to seal a judicial record bears the burden of overcoming this presumption by either meeting the "compelling reasons" standard if the record is a dispositive pleading or the "good cause" standard if the record is a non-dispositive pleading.
Moreover, the policy of promoting access to public documents dictates that only information for which there is good cause or compelling reasons to seal should be sealed. Accordingly, to the extent a party wishes to seal an entire document, rather than to redact certain information from that document, the party must provide either good cause or compelling reasons to seal all the information in that document. Otherwise, the party must only seek to redact information for which there is good cause or compelling reasons to seal.
Plaintiff's statements in the Motion do not warrant sealing the entire case. First, as noted above, Plaintiff has been moved to the Minneapolis RRC, and her allegations regarding her safety at FCI-Fairton are no longer relevant. Second, to the extent Plaintiff asserts her criminal case in North Dakota was sealed, it appears certain documents in her criminal case were sealed, but the entire case was not. The district court's decision in Plaintiff's criminal case to seal certain documents does not bear on this Court's decision to seal the entirety of this civil rights case.
Third, Plaintiff asserts the Court previously sealed certain information in this case at Defendants' request, but, in those instances, Defendants sought to seal specific attachments to exhibits filed in response to Plaintiff's Motions for Temporary Restraining Orders due to the sensitive nature of their content and the harm this content could potentially pose to Plaintiff and other prisoners if made public. Plaintiff has not shown good cause or compelling reasons to seal the entirety of the instant case….
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Future generations are going to find today's legal records REALLY confusing, due to this continual use of inaccurate pronouns in response to criminals' whims.
Which is why I use the pronoun "it" to refer to the sexually confused.
Or use the more accurate phrase "the mentally confused, delusional person who can't handle the truth".
Beat me to the punch. Why do the courts feel the need to do this?
Because the law schools are teaching the lawyers, who become judges, that they ought to do so.
It costs you nothing to use someone's preferred pronounces. You can shrug your shoulders at their "sexual confusion" but given a choice between showing a modicum of respect, and being a conspicuous dickhead, why be the latter?
Courts aren't social events and shouldn't be sowing confusion. If the person "identified" as God incarnate should we respect?
The judge is requiring everyone to lie in his court. The individual is a male and the judge is requiring participants in the court to refer to him as a she.
apparently lying in court is okay when it fits the judges ideology
No, it doesn't "cost you nothing".
The purpose of language is to communicate information, and pronouns, in English anyway, communicate the subject's sex.
The person prefers that you communicate a lie. It might not cost you money to communicate a lie, particularly in a legal document, but it's not "costless". It costs clarity. It costs devotion to the truth.
A court is the last place that should be doing this sort of thing.
Concur - As I stated above, the judge is requiring everyone to lie in his court.
And I really do wonder what happens when somebody is under oath, and a judge orders them to lie or suffer contempt of court.
Especially the rape victims in the case in the other thread, who have to refer to their attacker as "she" in order to respect his dignity.
Even if they would describe their experience as being attacked by a man.
The entire transgender medical diagnosis and treatment is build upon a lie.
The transgender insanity is losing steam yet the woke left activists are still clinging onto the insanity.
How would that play out?
My approach is to use the person's name, every time, like the FBI does. I used to teach undergrads to write incident reports that way because it is way too easy to misplace a modifier and have the pronoun referring to someone other than the intended.
But how would that play out if a witness stated that the witness was under oath and could not tell a lie and the American Heritage Dictionary defines a human with a penis as being male, and taking the "he/his" pronoun. Would there be an appeal in front of a different judge?
I used to teach wide receivers the routes they should run in the Super Bowl. But then I woke up.
Not only do FBI agents use pronouns to refer to people. Not only did a document written by an FBI agent to using pronouns to refer to people get linked here earlier today. Not only did Dr. Ed read that document. But immediately before making this bizarre claim, Dr. Ed quoted the agent using a pronoun in that very document!
You can’t make this shit up (ironically enough, given Dr. Ed’s involvement).
As a thought experiment, if all men suddenly decided they wanted to be referred to as women, that would erase the distinction between men and women. Women might not like that.
We see a smaller version of that happening now, but that is the goal.
We are beginning to see woman, for example, having to tell us that they would rather not be referred to as "non-transgender women" or "biological females" but just women.
Jeez, you'd think they were all biologists.
Leftist believe only experts can opine on what is basic common knowledge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgdVy3AVJ9s
Are you a cat?
Can you tell me what a cat is?
"modicum of respect"
You respect rapists?
Apparently this is the same case where she's being forced by the judge to refer to her attacker as "she".
I wonder, as this born-male beat her down, pulled her clothes off, forced herself inside her, did the terrified victim look into her attacker's eyes, and self-flagellate for thinking she was being raped by a man? Shame on me!
Thanks, judgie-wudgie! Is there nothing your serene wisdom cannot handle?
Ironically I support tg rights. It's your body and life, do whatever you want. I get a little skittish when people in power start specifying speech, though. Sure, it's in contained domains like business and scholastics (and courts) but that just emphasizes how it chafes at the bit to get free into the wilds.
Words that come out of my mouth should match the present reality.
Some transgender isn't going to come up to me and hold up four fingers and make me say there are five.
Where is the respect for me?
Fuck your preferred "Pronounces"
It’s possible that the University of Arizona was teaching that when Judge Rash attended 35 years ago, but I’d find it a little surprising.
True. The judge is making an effort to keep up with the fads.
Judge Rash got his J.D. from the University of Arizona all the way back in 1991. I doubt a single professor taught him any such thing, or that the issue even came up.
Yeah, courts really should stay out of the newspeak.
It's the adult thing to do.
You, Goobs, JD, etc., can internet-tough-guy about pronouns online all you like, but the reality of human interaction is that you don't create unnecessary, distracting conflicts that are immaterial to whatever it is you are trying to do. If you work with someone who's transgender, you'll refer to them by the name they're introduced as, and you'll use the most logical pronouns to refer to them. If you're serving a transgendered customer or work for a transgendered boss, you're similarly just going along to get along.
It's not about ideology, it's not about "lying." It's about not stirring up shit when it serves no purpose to do so. It's the same reason you don't make obnoxious comments about a barista's facial piercings or confront a dude on the street wearing a skirt.
Adults are civil. If you behave in real life like you do online, there's a good chance most people who interact with you hate having to do so.
Yes, civil adults just normally go around raping. Thank you Simone for pointing that out.
What the fuck are you talking about, dipshit?
What an angry old fag you are.
No, I just tire of your idiocy.
Not many homosexuals make it to old age, so at least he should get some props for that!
It seemed like an obvious response, given your "Adults are civil" line.
The guy is a rapist, there's no reason to so much as lift a finger to be 'civil' to him, he has lost any privilege he might have had to have people humor his delusions.
Someone didn't read the post.
Yes, it makes much more sense to make her gender identity an item of dispute in the case, giving her more ammunition for her claims that the judge was biased against her.
Internet Tough Guy!
I'd call you a dipshit to your face, Frank, to be clear.
To be clear I'd kick your ass like the little bitch you are, see how the Internet's works? I could be someone who's actually killed people, or a big fairy like that poof who ran for VP with Cums-a-Lot (actually are you him?) Oh, and I fucked your wife, to be clear, or perfectly clear, as Milhouse would say.
Simon's a poof himself, so he doesn't have a wife, but I think he does have a "life partner" in an open government marraige.
Why did you feel the need to change your name, Jesus? Too many people were on to your schtick?
"If you work with someone who's transgender, you'll refer to them by the name they're introduced as, and you'll use the most logical pronouns to refer to them. If you're serving a transgendered customer or work for a transgendered boss, you're similarly just going along to get along. "
Names are just conventions, so one can adopt whatever alias they want. Evelyn is always a female name in the US but is also a male name in UK.
Pronouns are almost always avoidable in casual conversation. If you are talking to someone, you do not use pronouns.
Most of us are never interacting with one of them anyway. Its not a thing outside a few big cities and college campuses.
A friend of my son's was visiting for a study session, and his "step mom" showed up to pick him up. Multicolored hair, boobs, and he made the assistant Secretary of Health Levine look feminine.
I did get through the brief conversation without employing any pronouns.
Do you actually know that this step-mom is trans, or are you (like most transvestigators) just leaping to conclusions about a cisgendered woman with masculine features, based on your irrational antipathy toward and obsession with trans people?
God, I wonder what your porn history must look like.
Yes, I have confirmation that he's a man. Not that I needed it.
And yet... so much energy is being spent trying to regulate gender-affirming care, what sports they play, what restrooms they use, and on and on...
Ironically, your attitude of indifference towards trans people who interact with you but successfully "pass" only vindicates the concerns of those trans people who insist on access to cosmetic surgery and puberty blockers as life-or-death issues. If a trans person could just live their lives without fear of being attacked, harassed, or killed for being visibly trans, it would be a lot easier to argue that kids who think they're trans don't yet need access to puberty-blocking drugs or hormones.
Most of the world has recognized the trans insanity. Yet leftist here in the US cling to their delusions. The right wants to stop the mutilation of individuals and destruction of their lives .
I don't know what you think is happening in the world, JoeD, but it's not the widespread of rejection of transgendered people that you seem to think should happen here. Try gathering some non-cherry-picked facts and get back to me.
Nobody's rejecting transgendered people. But people are rejecting the idea that men should play in women's sports or be housed in women's prisons, and people are rejecting the idea that children should have their bodies mutilated.
FFS. From the comments in this very thread we have the following gems that take a shit on the dignity of trans people:
Longtobefree: the mentally confused, delusional person who can't handle the truth
Joe_dallas: the entire transgender medical diagnosis and treatment is build upon a lie.
Frank Drackman: Fuck your preferred "Pronounces"
Dr. Ed 2: The adult thing to do would be to LOCK UP ALL THE TRANNIES IN THE PSYCH WARD!!!
You: I wish the men with gender dysphoria would stop doing that and admit that they're men with gender dysphoria.
OK, a couple of people are rejecting transgendered people.
But many more people are rejecting the idea that men should play in women's sports or be housed in women's prisons, etc.
And how is saying that men with gender dysphoria should admit that they're men with gender dysphoria taking a shit on the dignity of anyone, unless taking a shit on someone's dignity just means saying something that you or they disagree with, which I suspect is the case.
A couple? It's all over these comment threads. Every time. At least these folks are being honest.
Dilan Esper once stated that there are three things that comprise trans rights that we should all agree on (with limited exceptions such as sports and minors): 1) no discrimination, 2) access to health care and 3) respect for the dignity of trans people which includes using the pronoun that matches their gender identity.
You may disagree that a trans woman should be referred to as "she," but you are taking a shit on who they are.
Huh? I don't think people should cheat on their spouses, either.
Huh indeed! How is cheating on your spouse relevant to what I said.
"It's all over these comment threads."
My sense is that in the real world, if Bob wants to be Bobbi, starts wearing dresses, and so on, 99.44% of people will say 'her'.
Equally, when Fred Felon decides he is a woman, gets transferred to a women's prison, impregnates his first cell mate and rapes two others, 99.44% of people A)think that's nuts and B)no longer care what he wants to be called. People are shockingly bigoted against serial rapists, I guess.
Someday, hopefully. And they will do it sincerely accepting that gender idnetity is a trait.
But no way is that the case now. Look at these disgusting comments. They are an all-too-big part of the real world.
"Dilan Esper once stated that there are three things that comprise trans rights that we should all agree on (with limited exceptions such as sports and minors): 1) no discrimination, 2) access to health care and 3) respect for the dignity of trans people which includes using the pronoun that matches their gender identity."
Well, Dilan can go pound sand, because he's not getting any of those.
1. The 'discrimination' he's not getting because 90% of the 'discrimination' is just refusing to go along with the joke, and continuing to treat the guy as a guy. A mentally ill guy.
2. The access to health care he's not getting, because he doesn't mean by that ordinary medical treatments, which these people routinely get, but instead medical interventions to further their insanity. We don't give anorexics bariatric surgery, either.
3. He's not getting the respect for their dignity so long as he defines that as humoring their delusions.
In the end, all he really wants is complete capitulation.
Absaroka: Brett to the rescue as yet another example of someone who is not part of the 99.4%. I am keeping a list for future reference:
Longtobefree, Joe_dallas, Frank Drackman, Dr. Ed 2, TwelveInchPianist, Brett Bellmore.
I am sure there more to come ...
I hadn't pegged Goober as so "hostile to trans people" as to be in favor of outlawing their existence entirely, but apparently anything short of that counts as "complete capitulation."
Replying to Simon,
I find the judge's instruction to the victim to be profoundly disrespectful to a person who was violated. She should be allowed to use which ever pronoun she feels fits her rapist. he'd think differently were it his daughter who was raped.
You may think that it is adult and respectful to use the rapist's pronouns. You're wrong.
Sure, use the most logical pronouns. The transgender person is the one creating the unnecessary conflicts.
Court opinions and other official government documents should not be referring to men as women and vice versa.
You are referring to some limited social contexts, which is not the same thing at all, so your argument falls flat.
In some limited social contexts, which are confined to a mentally ill cultural moment of just a few short years, in particular geographic locations, there may be some truth to what you say. And of course, sometimes people are just rude and obnoxious, in any number of ways.
But when you get down to it, a narrow and self-interested "civility" has no real virtue as it does not care what is best for others. Love seeks what is best for others self-sacrificially. And then there's truth which is, well, true.
"don't create unnecessary, distracting conflicts that are immaterial "
It's immaterial that a person who claims to be a woman not only possesses a phallus, but is alleged to have used it to penetrate a sexual assault victim.
And demanding the use of a gendered pronoun is an unnecessary, distracting conflict.
The adult thing to do would be to LOCK UP ALL THE TRANNIES IN THE PSYCH WARD!!!
Which is what we used to do, not that long ago....
"but the reality of human interaction is that you don't create unnecessary, distracting conflicts that are immaterial to whatever it is you are trying to do."
I know. I wish the men with gender dysphoria would stop doing that and admit that they're men with gender dysphoria.
Sure, Goober. You're focusing on the pronouns because that's the only part of the opinion you can grasp. The procedural posture, underlying facts, and legal reasoning all likely went over your head.
Basic biology went over your head
Reality is the enemy of the left.
I understand biology, JoeD. I also understand the phenomenon of gender identity, which is distinct from biological sex, and am able to work within stipulated conceptual frameworks - which is a huge part of what it means to "think like a lawyer" (or a philosopher, or a scientist, or a mathematician, etc.).
The OP is about a transgendered prisoner who brought various constitutional claims against prison officials and has subsequently sought to seal the case record, citing the risk of personal harm arising from other prisoners' being able to access that case record. While Eugene has written regularly about these kinds of decisions, the present case isn't really all that interesting, because the prisoner's claims to personal risk were (apparently) mooted by her being moved to a residential reentry center, without any claim that she might be moved back to the prisons where she feared violence from other inmates. We therefore don't get any kind of legal analysis of whether sealing an entire case record could be justified by the risk of harm the prisoner was claiming.
That being the case, one wonders why Eugene bothered to share it. The comments show a frothy response from the MAGA anti-trans brigade. That may have been the whole point.
What do you find confusing about it? The judge explains the situation and his plan for word choice in pretty clear terms.
The judge plan of word choice is requiring participants in his court to lie.
1. How does the judge’s choice of what pronouns he is going to use force anyone to do anything? Indeed, given that this order reflects the judge’s decision not to reopen the already-closed case, it’s doubtful that there will even be be anything for anyone to participate in.
2. Even if the judge had ordered participants to use female pronouns to refer to the inmate, there wouldn’t be anything particularly confusing about it, as Brett Bellmore postulated.
3. You are about the absolute last person with standing to complain about the confusion and lies that result from a man adopting a female persona.
So who should be the one to complain about the confusion and lies that result for a man adopting a female persona?
The ones embracing the delusions?
The ones assisting the mentally ill to perpetuate their mental illness
The ones assisting in the active destruction of their lives / health and well being.
The ones assisting in the destruction of the mentally ill to ever return to a normal life.
That must be one of the evil leftists who wish to ignore any biological facts
Normal people who haven’t spent years posting under a female sockpuppet account, Sonja.
Could it (the prisoner) get an injunction against both the BOP and these particular guards ordering them to stop violating it's constitutional rights? It shouldn't matter WHY they are doing what they are doing if they ought not be doing it.
And when is the Federal Govt going to clean up the BOP?!?
The motion to seal has nothing to do with auxilliary complaints for transgender care, but is apparently prosaic they beat me up because of what my instigating crime and conviction were. Which is not mentioned.
To some people, inmates brutalizing each other is a feature, not a bug.
I consider it a bug, because it interferes with whatever rehabilitation purposes that prisons are supposed to serve.
There is also the 8th Amendment...
We really need to pass more laws to clarify that these interventions are never "medically necessary" as far as the government is concerned.
We should be treating people in such a way that they accept their bodies, not giving them surgery to accommodate their delusions.
I’m not sure that approach has more than symbolic value. The right to necessary medical treatment cis constitutional un nature, so to the extent a judge thinks these procedures are actually necessary, a law banning them would be unconstitutional.
States generally have the right to regulate medical care, and I doubt courts would second guess generally applicable state law when it comes to the second amendment. In the Skrmetti oral arguments we saw the court recognizing its limitations when it comes to second guessing legislatures on medical issues.
"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".
Maybe he shouldn't have raped anyone?
From this blog, just a few posts farther down the page:
"The court concluded that 'the couple's May 8, 2022, marriage was designed for the purpose of MacGregor avoiding having to testify and Defendant Greer had no other intent to marry MacGregor'"
Perhaps borrow this principle to find that "Fly's gender identification was designed for the purpose of Fly avoiding being placed among a male inmate population that he reasonably expected to attack him, and cause him to be placed in a female prison population where he could victimize other inmates as he was alleged (even convicted?) of doing in the case he wants to seal against fellow inmates."
True Story, a Veteran can get Disability benefits for both "Female Sexual Arousal Disorder" (ICD10 F52.22) and Prostrate Cancer (ICD10 C61), thank Them for their Service!!!!!
They don't remove the prostate in a sex change operation, do they?
And how the heck is "Female Sexual Arousal Disorder" a disability?
She should be WORKING at work, and this would enable that....
Are you a VA Claims reviewer? I mean with your Encyclopedic knowledge of everything you'd be perfect.