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Allegation: Carnegie Mellon Prof to Jewish Student: Time on Jewish-Related Project "Would Have Been Better Spent" Exploring "What Jews Do To Make Themselves Such a Hated Group"
A federal judge has allowed the (now-graduated) student's discrimination, harassment, retaliation, and breach of contract case to go forward.
Some excerpts from Canaan v. Carnegie Mellon Univ., decided Tuesday by Judge Scott Hardy (W.D. Pa.); the opinion is 15,000 words, so this can only give a flavor of the matter. First, the allegations from plaintiff's Complaint (which, at this stage of the case, the court assumes to be factually accurate in determining whether the plaintiff has a legal basis for her claim):
Ms. Canaan was taking one of her required studio classes where students receive hands-on, practical instruction in architectural design, making models and applying lessons learned in their other classes. These studio classes typically involve small groups, open discussions, and one-on-one meetings with professors. Students receive critically important feedback individually as well as in small group and class-wide settings. On May 5, 2022, Ms. Canaan had the final review for her semester-long studio class project, which was a model she designed depicting the conversion of a public space in a New York City neighborhood into a private space through an eruv (i.e., an integral feature of neighborhoods with large devout Jewish populations). {Plaintiff's Complaint describes an eruv as a "small wire boundary that symbolically extends the private domain of devoutly religious Jewish households into public areas, permitting activities within it that are normally forbidden in public on the Sabbath."}
In response to questions, Ms. Canaan was explaining the concept of an eruv to Mary-Lou Arscott, Professor and Associate Head for Design Fundamentals at the School of Architecture …, when Professor Arscott cut Ms. Canaan off and told her that "the wall in the model looked like the wall Israelis use to barricade Palestinians out of Israel," and that the time Ms. Canaan had used to prepare her project "would have been better spent if [Ms. Canaan] had instead explored 'what Jews do to make themselves such a hated group.'" …
[Discussion of Canaan's complaints to CMU, and CMU's allegedly dilatory and inadequate responses, omitted. -EV] [A]pproximately six months after Professor Arscott had directed offensive comments at Ms. Canaan in Ms. Canaan's studio class[, ]CMU's administration finally scheduled a meeting with Ms. Canaan and Professor Arscott over Zoom on November 2, 2022. The Complaint describes this Zoom meeting as an unproductive endeavor: the meeting took place, but Vice Provost Heading-Grant said and did nothing as facilitator, Professor Arscott refused to apologize and showed no remorse, and, further, Professor Arscott referenced and subsequently emailed contents of a blog titled "The Funambulist" to Ms. Canaan and Vice Provost Heading-Grant. Professor Arscott urged Ms. Canaan to read the contents of The Funambulist that she linked in the email because it provided her with "insightful … perspective."
According to the Complaint, The Funambulist contains anti-Jewish and anti-Israel content, including, among other things, the promotion of pictures of terrorist organizations throwing Molotov cocktails at Jewish people and articles with titles such as "Israeli Apartheid" and "Israeli Police: The Daily Practice of Collective Punishment Against Palestinians." A sample passage from one article, dated April 8, 2022, that could be considered particularly pertinent to Ms. Canaan's circumstances and Professor Arscott's refusal to apologize reads: "[Y]ou never make concessions to the oppressor. If you're going to get punished, and you might, if you piss off Zionists, it's always a possibility, right, then stare the oppressor in the face, and take whatever punishment is coming. Don't concede, don't start apologizing …. The Palestinians aren't backing down, nor should we … [we] do not make concessions to the oppressor."
There are further allegations, including:
In addition to her averments concerning the CMU staff discussed above, Ms. Canaan also avers that Professor Theodossis Issaias, a personal friend loyal to Professor Arscott, also harbored unlawful animus towards her. According to Ms. Canaan, she sought out Professor Issaias to assist and guide her concerning the antisemitic treatment she had endured due to Professor Arscott's statements and actions, but Professor Issaias nevertheless invited Ms. Canaan's entire class to a party at Professor Arscott's home. When Ms. Canaan expressed how disturbed she was by the location of this social gathering, Professor Issaias told Ms. Canaan that "breaking bread is a process of reconciliation," Ms. Canaan needed to stop "acting like a victim," he was "not there to fight her battles for her," Ms. Canaan was "calling all of us antisemites," and that he "cannot be an advocate for the Jews."
Professor Issaias then became aggressive toward Ms. Canaan in front of her classmates—so much so that several classmates asked Ms. Canaan what she had done to draw his ire—and he refused to work with Ms. Canaan, including for critical one-on-one attention that he gave to all of Ms. Canaan's classmates in the architecture program's practical skills studio coursework, thereby causing her to lose individualized feedback. Professor Issaias gave Ms. Canaan a C in his 18-unit studio class—the lowest studio grade Ms. Canaan ever received at CMU—which prevented her from receiving an Honors degree and put her scholarship at risk. Professor Issaias also gave Ms. Canaan a lower grade than classmates in her same group for a group project….
The court allowed plaintiff's discrimination claim to go forward:
A careful examination of Ms. Canaan's Complaint reveals numerous factual averments that plausibly show that CMU intentionally discriminated against her through its deliberate indifference because she is Jewish and of Israeli descent. Ms. Canaan's averments plausibly show that she was met with roadblocks time and again after her encounter with Professor Arscott on May 5, 2022, when Professor Arscott told Ms. Canaan that she should have focused on exploring "what Jews do to make themselves such a hated group" instead of working on her semester-long architecture studio class project. The parties expressed at Oral Argument that they are generally in agreement that this comment—asking a student to consider what his or her racial, ethnic, or religious group does to make themselves "hated"—is (if true) offensive. And yet, according to Ms. Canaan, she received only the façade of action from those administrators at CMU who "knew that a harm to a federally protected right was substantially likely." …
At this stage of the litigation, any reasonable inference that can be drawn from these factual allegations must, of course, be drawn in Ms. Canaan's favor. It is the Court's determination that Ms. Canaan's allegations are sufficient to show that CMU failed to meaningfully react to Professor Arscott's offensive and discriminatory interactions with Ms. Canaan. The CMU executives responsible for addressing discriminatory mistreatment of a Jewish student, such as Ms. Canaan, failed or refused to prevent or sufficiently stop it. Indeed, the Dean of Students, Vice Provost of DEI, School of Architecture Director of DEI, and the Title IX Coordinator and Assistant Vice Provost of DEI, all knew of Professor Arscott's racially and ethnically offensive conduct directed at Ms. Canaan, but showed deliberate indifference toward Ms. Canaan's federally protected right not to be discriminated against on the basis of her Jewish identity.
The court allowed plaintiff's hostile educational environment harassment claim to go forward:
[I]n considering the totality of circumstances, the Court also evaluates the instances of harassment purportedly perpetrated by Professor Arscott in the context of her position, role, and relationships with Ms. Canaan, her fellow professors, and important CMU administrators. In this regard, Ms. Canaan's Complaint contains facts supporting inferences that Professor Arscott is in a position of authority and influence over students and certain colleagues and administrators….
Professor Arscott's averred relationships with CMU's administrators responsible for administering CMU's policies prohibiting discrimination and harassment also reasonably suggests that Professor Arscott had influence with them, too…. It is reasonable to infer from those facts not only that Ms. Canaan was subject to instances of harassment (e.g., being asked what Jewish people do to make themselves hated, reinforced later by Professor Arscott's refusal to apologize followed by The Funambulist email), but also that [CMU administrators] were deliberately indifferent to Professor Arscott's putative bigotry….
{Additionally, though more attenuated, the Court must also take as true and consider Ms. Canaan's factual averments that CMU received more than a half billion dollars in funding from Qatar from 2004 to 2019, that Qatar "shelters and protects antisemitic, anti-Jewish, and anti-Israel terrorist organizations," that Professor Arscott spent time professionally in Qatar where CMU maintains a campus, and that CMU's lucrative relationship with Qatar influences both CMU's and Professor Arscott's treatment of Jewish students such as Ms. Canaan.}
Not only that, but when the Court also considers Ms. Canaan's allegations concerning Professor Issaias, a reasonable inference of pervasiveness of harassment and deliberate indifference also arises. Professor Issaias's response to Ms. Canaan's sharing that she had been harassed by Professor Arscott was to: invite Ms. Canaan to a gathering at Professor Arscott's home; tell Ms. Canaan to stop "acting like a victim"; complain that Ms. Canaan was "calling all of us antisemites"; and, further, to inform Ms. Canaan that he could not "be an advocate for the Jews."
Thereafter, Professor Issaias denied Ms. Canaan one-on-one instruction and became so hostile toward her in class that his behavior drew the attention of her classmates and prompted them to ask her "what she did to cause Issaias to treat her so poorly." Professor Issaias also gave Ms. Canaan a lower grade than classmates who were part of her group project and omitted her work from a booklet he compiled of every other student's work for those students who were in the class that semester.
Ms. Canaan alleges that she informed Assistant Vice Provost Rosemeyer of Issaias's conduct—including that he had subjected her "to further antisemitic abuse" and of her low grade in his class, but instead of addressing the harassment aspect of her complaint Rosemeyer offered only to refer Ms. Canaan to grade appeals and connect her to emotional support groups. Drawing all inferences in Ms. Canaan's favor, Ms. Canaan's allegation that Assistant Vice Provost Rosemeyer ignored her reports of Issaias's discrimination supports an inference of failure to act, i.e., a clearly unreasonable response when presented with alleged antisemitic harassment.
{In addition to the encounters in 2022 and 2023 described in this section, the Court also acknowledges that Ms. Canaan avers that in May 2021 she sent an email to CMU's President Farnam Jahanian and Dean Casalegno expressing her concerns of antisemitism on CMU's campus and telling them that Jewish students "no longer feel safe on this campus" after the president of a student group posted a message in a 5,700 member Facebook group implicating Jewish students in the tensions and aggressions related to Israel and Gaza and disseminating screen shots of internal emails from the campus Jewish community that made it easy to identify Ms. Canaan and other Jewish students on campus. CMU argues that this incident was not attributable to the University, and the Court acknowledges that point. Nevertheless, the Court assumes this, like all of Ms. Canaan's other averments, is true and considers it as part of the totality of circumstances relevant to Ms. Canaan's Title VI claims.}
The court also allowed plaintiff's retaliation claim to go forward, partly based on the Issaias allegations. The court allows plaintiff's breach of contract claim to go forward, based on the argument that CMU's alleged behavior "breached its contractual obligations set forth in its … Policy Against Retaliation [and] … Title IX Resource Guide." But the court reject plaintiff's intentional infliction of emotional distress claim, reasoning that:
The Court cannot find an averment in Ms. Canaan's Complaint that would allow it to infer that the alleged extreme and outrageous conduct she endured—predominantly by Professor Arscott—was 'actuated, at least in part, by a purpose to serve the employer' [and could thus lead to liability for CMU]. For that reason, the Court will dismiss Ms. Canaan's IIED claim, albeit without prejudice to amendment should she seek to cure the deficiency addressed herein.
I think the First Amendment should generally prevent Title VI liability for professors' anti-Israel speech said to the public, or to classes generally—and, I think, even outright anti-Jewish speech. But here there are allegations that a professor had singled out a student because she did a Jewish-related project; that the professor's later sending anti-Israel materials to the student was tied to that; and that another professor had given the student an unfairly low grade in retaliation for the student's discrimination complaints. Again, recall that these are just allegations; any actual fact-finding would come later in the case.
Albert Tagliaferri, Alexander Rabinowitz, Bryce Friedman, Jamie Fell, Michael Torkin, and Zachary J. Weiner (Simpson Thacher and Bartlett LLP) and Ziporah Reich (The Lawfare Project) represent plaintiff.
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I’m guessing the current Architectural Department Chair, “Omar Khan” supports Professor Arschloch also. At Auburn the stereotypical Architectural students were the guys who flunked DE but didn’t want to major in something they could actually make money at, like Golf Course management or Poultry Science,
OTOH I love running into Docs named “Khan” just for the excuse to yell
“KHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Frank
i really wonder would would have happened if a professor had handed a black student Ku Klux Klan tracts on the oppressions of the Reconstructionist governments and the accompanying military occupation, the widespread Black settler-colonialism based on the Federal program of taking confiscated Native American land and giving it to black settler-colonialists willing to settle and illegally occupy Native territory, Martin Luther King Jr.’s oppressive refusal to honor others’ needs for safe spaces and repeated illegal occupation of others places of sanctuary, etc. etc. etc. Tje Klan has a comparable literature. Indeed, parts of the Klan’s literature were cribbed by the Nazis who redirected it to Jews, and in turn cribbed by by their Arab allies. There’s nothing really new in any of this literature. When hated inferiors gain power, tales of oppression abound. Jewish history is no different than black history in this respect.
What would have happened if the professor had handed the black student some of this literature and asked the black student to think about why black people are so hated?
And what exactly does this Professor do to celebrate the anti-settler-colonialist Tulsa Liberation of 1921? Inquiring minds want to know.
More hypothetical hypocrisy. It gets old.
Also, again, the minds are enquiring. It's a little pun, you see.
You call it hypocracy. Try putting yourself in the shoes of the abused.
Try putting yourself in the shoes of the abused.
I don't think you need hypothetical hypocrisy to get there. In fact, I don't think hypothetical hypocrisy does get you there. You just need to apply a consistent standard.
The standard in this case is clear -- the professors behaved inexcusably. As you probably know, I'm a D&I proponent (I don't care much for the E), including for Jewish kids, and I think professors that act in this way should face consequences. It's part of their job description, or at least it should be (I know people like you are trying to make that impossible).
I'm actually glad the DEI fanatics can't control themselves, because if they had a lick of political sense they'd exempt Jews from their anti-white demonization. Then they'd be able to keep duping many progressive Jews into supporting the DEI nonsense. But since the DEI types can't control themselves, plenty of previously-unaware Jews are waking up to what's going on. It's as if the DEI slogan is "Jews - the worst type of white people, which for us sure is saying a lot!"
(Jews aren't uniformly white, but in the USA they come close.)
Right, because you want to treat everyone this badly, not just Jews. Trans, Blacks, Russians, and Muslims can all get the "learn what makes you a hated group" treatment.
I admit I'm at a loss as to what you're talking about. Enlighten me on what my views are.
You obviously think these professors are "DEI types" who are failing to apply their DEI principles to Jews. But your solution is to apply them to no one at all? If you think Jews are being treated badly because DEI isn't helping them enough, it's an odd response to say that DEI just shouldn't help anyone, unless you want them all to get treated poorly.
Why not just quit your speculation on what you think I think. I think you think wrong.
I'm just working through the implications of your own statements. If you think I'm getting it wrong, feel free to point out the mistakes.
Ah, the "logical implications" game.
No, logic has nothing to do with your analysis.
In order to point out your mistakes, I just need to point to your posts.
"logical implications"
I never used the word logic. I'm no pedant.
Here's a more interesting observation. To the extent "DEI" advocates "anti-white demonization" -- which I think is grievance-mongered way out of proportion but whatever -- to the extent it's true, you're taking the bait.
Did you even really identify as White before DEI (I mean MAGA) made you defensive about it? I mean sure, you checked the White / Caucasian box, but were you like, "I celebrate White culture" and "I like eating my White food to White music" and "I support historically White colleges?" I hope not. But both the forces within DEI that focus on Whiteness and MAGA'a efforts to make sure you notice them are designed to make you think of yourself in terms of your Whiteness. Basically in order to make it easier to capitalize on the politics of division.
It's the same strategy as the Queer strategy. Queers aren't really happy about gay marriage because it normalizes gays. They don't want to normalize anyone, they want to denormalize straight people. MAGA is only too willing to go along, because again, if you make people defensive about their characteristics -- being straight, not trans, White, whatever -- then you can grievance-monger better.
So, don't fall for talk of Whiteness, whether by the left or the right. It's only meant to divide -- really the opposite of what D&I is actually about.
So, where can we find these "D & I but not E" programs? How many of these good programs as compared to the bad DEI programs you disagree with?
If you don't like the term "demonize," then don't use the term. Even without the word, you seem to be critical enough of DEI, even comparing them to pro-Trump zealots, which I understand is a major insult.
None of the DEI / D&I programs I've been involved with have come anywhere close to demonizing white people. I've only heard the term "whiteness" from right-wingers, who all point back to the same small set of academics and anecdotes.
I do think the E makes it easier to slip into some sort of anti-whiteness mindset because it hints at a zero-sum game.
"I've only heard the term "whiteness" from right-wingers, who all point back to the same small set of academics and anecdotes."
Right-wingers like this whole list of people and groups?
https://guides.libraries.uc.edu/racialjusticeresources/whiteness
You apparently didn't even trouble yourself to do the most cursory Internet search.
Not sure how you think that's some kind of gotcha. Not all DEI / D&I programs are orchestrated by "Racial Justice Activists."
You seem to have a real problem agreeing to agree.
Randal, the people who truly believe in Dr. King's Dream have become MAGA.
That's some of the stupider revisionist history bullshit that MAGA's ever come up with.
MLK may not have wanted you to judge him by the color of his skin. But he certainly didn't want you to be blind to it either.
""I like eating my White food to White music"
I do. Split pea soup, broiled cod (without garlic), boiled dinner, baked beans, (canned) brown bread, turnips, and pumpkin pie.
Grossening.
And I say the same thing about other people's food, that is what it means to live in a free country.
If you note that list, it is also what would have been available *TO* eat on the 20th of December on the Maine Coast, circa 1830 (or 1930). Split peas and beans were dried foods, put away in bulk during the fall and would last for several years if kept dry. While they had to be watched, with the ones starting to go bad used first, turnips, potatoes, carrots, squash, and pumpkins would last through the winter in the "root cellar" (or real cellar) and braided onions would last in the attic (or often upstairs children's bedrooms that weren't that well heated).
Molasses, a byproduct of making sugar (and precursor to making rum) was cheap and plentiful, flour was a staple bought by the barrel, and cod were often caught inside lobster traps.
Like with most ethnic/racial foods, it was what was available to the people at the time, fresh cod in lobster traps was so plentiful that there was no need to use dried cod, and the leftover fish (with potatoes added) became a fish chowder -- which others made with reconstituted salt cod).
Black America is known for BBQs -- preparing and cooking the less choice pieces of meat (e.g. ribs) and evolving methods so good that they are now more choice than the actual choice cuts. And I think you will find that of all ethnic/racial foods, people making do with what they had, and somehow managing to make something decent out of it.
It's a miserable morning with wind from the NorthEast, damp the way that it only can be when it is just about freezing, with drizzle and snow and Lord knows what else predicted. On December 20, 2024 I can pick up my cell phone and order a pizza delivered, or drive down to the warehouse-sized supermarket and pick up a rotisserie chicken or something to throw into the microwave.
But my Swamp Yankee forebears, on December 20, 1830 had to make do with what they had.
That's all fine, but what the fuck is "boiled dinner?" Whatever it is, you could definitely have done better, if just in the naming.
It is the Leftist DEI types who draw attention to Whiteness, and demonize it. Why do you object to people liking White food, music, and colleges? You are also demonizing Whiteness. Do you have some racial animus against Whites?
The Left is all about identity politics. Not the Right.
What White food are you even talking about? Like there's some sort of Chad's White Bistro that you like to frequent?
You're taking the left's bait if you're suddenly concerned about "White colleges." That's identity politics. Don't fall for it. If you're into your Scottish ancestry -- you don't have to be, but if you are -- that's great. I like Scotch. But Scotch isn't White. It's Scottish.
Where do you live? Just go to a random American restaurant that is not labeled Mexican or Chinese.
I am tired of leftists telling me that there is something wrong with White culture. Scottish culture is a subset.
Scottish culture is a subset.
Lol. Do you know how dumb that is?
Every time you say "White culture" the Racial Justice Activists win.
"Where do you live? Just go to a random American restaurant that is not labeled Mexican or Chinese."
No, there is a decidedly European (including Scandinavian) aspect to most American cuisine (and the language). You have to go to backwater pockets of Maine to find actual Yankee cuisine.
"What White food are you even talking about? "
See above listing.
"Like there's some sort of Chad's White Bistro that you like to frequent?"
Yes. Moody's Diner in Waldoboro, Maine (not as good as it once was), Helen's Restaurant in Machias, Maine. Moody's sells frozen pies that you can take home with you -- I highly recommend their strawberry/rhubarb pie.
They only use the few spices I have in my cupboard -- cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, allspice, cloves, black pepper, and salt.
"You're taking the left's bait if you're suddenly concerned about "White colleges." That's identity politics. Don't fall for it. "
Remember the "Black is Beautiful" movement of the 1970's"
The much aligned "It's OK to be White" is the same thing, for the same reasons, and I want a college that is willing to say that.
For the very same reasons that "Black is Beautiful" needed to be said 50 years ago.
Remember the "Black is Beautiful" movement of the 1970's[?]" The much [m]aligned "It's OK to be White" is the same thing, for the same reasons...
No, it's not, because there's no such thing as White identity. For example, I'm white, but I don't identify at all with your "White food" like boiled dinner.
People who said "Black is Beautiful" have a meaningfully shared identity that they want to celebrate.
People who say "It's ok to be White" are just being defensive about perceived attacks. "The Social Justice Activists said some mean things about us!" is not a sufficient basis for a common identity. It's just taking the bait and then whining about it.
If you want to say something like "Black is Beautiful," first figure out what it is that you're actually proud of. Is it white culture in Azerbaijan? Probably not unless you're Azerbaijani. You can say "It's ok to be a Colonial American Yankee" or "It's ok to be a Quaker" or "It's ok to be Scandinavian" or "It's ok to be Southern Italian" or "It's ok to be Azerbaijani."
Some on the left are doing it consciously, and many more unconsciously. In the first group are those who think that white supremacy/institutional racism is built into every idea and institution, and that failing to recognize that is a function of white privilege. We'll never overcome that until whites become conscious of their white privilege and admit those things, and then they can work to become anti-racist. (Remember, color blindness not only doesn't really exist, but the idea itself is a tool of racists.) They recognize that this will bring out white racism, but they think that said racism already exists and this just makes it more obvious and overt.
Others are just operating from an outdated paradigm in which the country was basically black/white with no other groups, and whites were the overwhelming majority, especially in institutions. When it was that lopsided, then giving benefits to the small minority didn't meaningfully threaten the majority, so the backlash was trivial and could be written off as a handful of racists. But as the percentage of whites shrink and the number of groups demanding benefits grows, then it starts to look like one group — whites — is being singled out for negative treatment while everyone else is getting their cut. (So, e.g., setasides for minority owned businesses are no longer about letting blacks get their feet in the door, but are simply racial spoils.) And that's just not tenable.
Not you too! Man, it's starting to seem like the Social Justice people have succeeded in getting everyone to adopt their white vs. non-white framework.
That's such a ridiculously dangerous framework to operate within I can hardly believe how many of you from both sides are super into it. I guess it feels good to get to pretend like you're being persecuted.
Others are just operating from an outdated paradigm in which the country was basically black/white with no other groups...
No. This is a myth, there was never such a time. There have always been out groups other than Blacks: Chinese, Catholics, Scots, Italians... and most of them have become assimilated to the point where they're now considered "white," most recently Latinos.
Which is the point. Fixating on white vs. non-white makes further assimilation difficult. We need to be figuring out how to bring the out groups into the mainstream, not hardening our dividing lines.
Randal,
I agree with your second paragraph except for your mind-reading at the end.
You precisely do not know that.
Sure I do. "People like you" talk about it here all the time. It's not mind-reading, it's reading.
No you don't. You are just projecting what you want to believe, reading into remarks what is not there.
Never understood the dress code in A-rab countries, men all wearing long sleeve dress shirts, polyester slacks, no matter how hot, but ruining the look with a worn out pair of flip flops
Or if a professor handed a White student a book on anti-racism, George Floyd, or the evils of White supremacy and colonialism.
They're hated for different reasons. Blacks because they're genetically unintelligent and are a criminal and dysfunctional population everywhere they exist in the world. Jews because they fight for the underdog, no matter who the underdog is, and in doing so, undermine the majority culture.
What's wrong with a professor asking a student to self-reflect?
That's part of learning and growing.
Retaliation, that's what's wrong. Unless you think that's part of learning and growing too.
Reflect on that!
There's also the question of relevance to the instruction you're being paid to deliver. I'm not seeing much connection between Jewish history and current architectural design.
It's ironic one of Cancel Culture's tools is "instructing" professors to stay in their lanes and not comment on things that aren't, say, math.
They act as protective racket automata in service to their echo chamber orders.
Telling someone to stay in their lane while they're on the job is not and never has been an example of 'cancel culture'.
It is for professors. They pretty much get to define their lane. That's called Academic Freedom.
What's wrong:
1: It has noting with a class relative to design of buildings.
Well, unless you are trying to explain ADA compliance, and that's mostly a combination of regs and measurement, with geometry thrown in.
2: You don't treat a student like this -- ANY student, for ANY reason.
She might want to design a lesbian commune -- it's a free country -- and the only two things you should ask her is (a) why anyone would want a building with her features and (b) why would lesbians.
3: This is penalty grading which should be banned -- actually is on paper at most IHEs.
And the taxpayer should continue to fund this hatred, why?
Carnegie Mellon is a private institution. Taxpayer dollars make their way into that institution via:
1. federal grants for specific research - which are (nominally) neutral fee-for-service payments to individual researchers, not payments to the institution; and
2. tuition assistance for students - again, granted neutrally for the student to spend where he/she likes.
Banning either of those avenues would require overturning rather a lot of federal law and precedent. It would, for example, allow the government to interfere with how you spend your welfare check money depending on whether the government disfavors the political beliefs of the corner grocer.
- If I had my druthers, I'd end all taxpayer funding of higher ed.
- I don't see anything wrong with cutting off taxpayer funding of entities that engage in racial / ethnic / religious discrimination. (Sorry, but that's not the same as "political beliefs.") In fact, I would've thought that our currently-existing laws require this.
The Kennedy/Johnson administration felt the same way and that is why the created ED OCR.
The government should get out of the student loan business altogether.
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly applied to private businesses, e.g. Heart of Atlanta Hotel and Ollie's BBQ.
Race or Religion -- either way.
And the thing I find interesting here is that she's going to District Court and not to ED's OCR.
ED's OCR has authority because the institution receives federal funds.
She sued rather than filing an OCR complaint because she seeks compensatory damages for the Title VI claim and because she seeks compensatory and punitive damages for her supplemental state law claims. OCR cannot award compensatory damages even if it finds a Title VI violation and lacks the power to adjudicate and to award relief for her supplemental state law claims.
Wrong. Those grants routinely come with "overhead" payments to the institution that may approach close to 100% of the grant amounts that go to the grantees. So you vastly understate how much flows in federal dollars to the institutions, be they private or public.
"the wall in the model looked like the wall Israelis use to barricade Palestinians out of Israel"
The professor failed the Rorschach test.
"the wall in the model looked like the wall Israelis use to barricade Palestinians out of Israel"
Well, yeah, in the sense that all walls look similar, because they are...well, walls.
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Just going by this tidbit, it sounds like the normal sort of stuff that's been directed at white people and was pretty pervasive in academic realms 20 years ago already, but particularized to Jews.
Wait, they did? Wow.
Not being Jewish, I have to ask this: Is merely stringing a wire around a building academically rigorous to justify credit for this course?
Power companies string wires all the time, and they also have to worry about higher voltage lines screwing up lower voltage ones, which is why they always cross at a right angle.
An eruv is not "merely stringing a wire around a building." Indeed, that wouldn't serve as an eruv at all. The point of an eruv is to string wire around open spaces, to convert them symbolically into private ones.
God had better be a strict constructionist, not a purposivist.
So it is an attempt by Jews to convert a public space into a Jewish space. Maybe some non-Jews do not agree with that.
"So it is an attempt by Jews to convert a public space into a Jewish space."
No, it converts a public space into a private space for purposes of Jewish religious law. It does not exclude non-Jews from the space and has no impact on non-Jews using the space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv
Basically, it allows Jews in the space to do things that they would otherwise be prohibited from doing in public by Jewish religious law.
Would you say the same about putting a crucifix on the wall in a public school classroom? It allows Christians to honor their religion, and does not exclude non-Christians from the classroom, and does not impact non-Christians using the classroom.
The absence of the crucifix does not prohibit Catholics from honoring their religion. Also, most Protestant denominations do not use the crucifix as a symbol– a simple empty cross is preferred.
In other words, your analogy does not hold water.
Protestants consider it a graven image.
Most Jews do not pay any attention to an eruv, The Jewish law does not seem to be much of a limit.
Remember when we moved to Alabama in the 70’s, my mom asked
“Why does eff-ree one have Fish bumper sticker?”
I wasn’t much smarter, in the 90’s, trying to find this “WWJD” station everyone was listening to
Frank
A crucifix is a religious symbol. And a public school classroom is run by the government. An eruv is (generally) a wire, which is not a religious symbol. And is erected by private people, not the government. Other than that, great analogy!
You say the wire is not a religious symbol, but you also say that it acts symbolically to serve a religious purpose. What's the difference? Also, instead of the government putting the crucifix on the wall, maybe some student could do it for class credit. Does that make the analogy better?
No, I would not. Because there is no catholic law that prohibits Catholics from doing certain non-religious tasks in a room without a crucifix.
Really, that's the difference? So if I find a suitable Catholic law, then you would be in favor of school projects to put crucifixes in classrooms?
No, but you are welcome to keep on searching.
Hint for the confused: do not confuse Catholic doctrine about secular space with Canon law concerning churches and other consecrated spaces.
I search, and I find Christians who are very tolerant of Jewish symbols, and Jews who are extremely intolerant of Christian symbols.
How was that a response to not being able to cite any bit of Catholic canon law to uphold your claim?
I also find Christians who are intolerant of Jews and Jews who are very tolerant of Christian symbols.
The test is whether a belief is sincere, not valid.
If someone sincerely believes he needs a cross in a classroom, should he be accommodated? If not, why not?
That is not the test.
If the student needs a cross in the classroom, there are many parochial school which will accommodate that need.
A cross under the shirt would also be in the classroom and therefore accommodate that need.
"conversion of a public space in a New York City neighborhood into a private space"
If it is a PRIVATELY OWNED public space, e.g. hotel lobby, I don't have a problem with it. I know a masonry supply company with crucifixes on the wall of their showroom -- it's their wall.
But if it is publicly owned, I'm not so sure...
Now for a class project, it's a moot issue because the presumption is that the owner will approve whatever she wants to do.
Maybe you missed the word "symbolically" in my statement. (Or maybe you're just an antisemite. Wait, yes, I believe it's the latter.) Also, I said a "private space," not a "Jewish space."
I think perhaps we have addressed what some might find a grating quality that the defendant had inquired about: 'what Jews do to make themselves such a hated group.'
Create a bunch of silly laws (every religion has silly laws as viewed by outsiders), but then create a bunch of shysterly workarounds that clearly violate the principle and intent of the law, and meet the most strained letter of the law only.
"An eruv is not "merely stringing a wire around a building.""
Indeed, on the surface of a sphere, who can definitively say on which side of the wire exists the eruv. The wire thus emcompases the entire globe, except for the building(which is 'outside' the eruv). Problem solved, topology to the rescue.
Does not work. An eruv cannot encompass a space containing more than 600,000 people. (That's why there are multiple eruvim in NYC rather than one surrounding the whole city.)
I gotta ask ... where does the 600000 come from?
ETA: I thought 'I should just google it!' ... and now I'm really confused. Some people say 'only pedestrians count'. Apparently LA is under the limit by some measures (but what happens if there is an earthquake and more than 600K people rush into the street?). But while I found lots of references to 600K, I didn't see why the number is 600K and not 500 or 700K. Is it one of those stone tablet things, or calculated from ... something?
600,000 comes from the fact that it is the traditional figure for the number of adult males present at Sinai when the Torah was given to the Jewish people.
Considering the professor’s level of academic rigor, probably.
I'm not going to assume racism in advance of the evidence. What kind of country would we be if people did that?
It's up to Ms. Canaan (nice name in this context) to prove her claims to a jury (unless they all settle first) (not settle in the sense of settler colonialism).
If it turns out, based on the jury's factfinding based on evidence shown in open court, that the defendants are in fact racists, then let Carnegie Mellon fire its "Dean of Students, Vice Provost of DEI, School of Architecture Director of DEI, and the Title IX Coordinator and Assistant Vice Provost of DEI" for failure to root out racism like they were supposed to.
I am asking a serious question: Can you permanently modify public property to facilitate private religious worship?
I don't think so.
The solution, of course, is for some Rabbi to recognize GPS coordinates, much as some past Rabbi recognized a piece of wire.
An eruv does not facilitate private religious worship. It merely lets Orthodox Jews engage in the same activities as others.
Anything one does or doesn't do for a religious reason is a form of worship. Or religious observance if you prefer.
So every minute of the day that I walk around without murdering someone, that's "religious observance"?
Well, one might argue that it is an incidence of your adhering to a religious law and obeying civil law. However, that observation erroneously conflates two different classes of actions.
To be fair to Ed (who doesn't deserve it, but it's Xmas), I can’t quite think of why an eruv on public land doesn't count as an establishment of religion...
Nevermind. It's pretty obvious why not, actually.