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On Punishing Speech vs. Punishing Conduct
A university president provides a helpful explanation of the difference.
Cornell University recently sanctioned students who were involved in a protest that disrupted a university job fair. At least fifteen students have been suspended, according to this report.
After the sanctions were announced, a student asked "Why are you punishing students for free speech?" a student asked interim president Michael Kotlikoff after the sanctions were announced. No one is being punished for speech, he explained. Rather, some students are being punished for disruptive conduct. The distinction is important.
This week, Kotlikoff wrote an op-ed for the Cornell Daily Sun explaining the distinction and the reasons for the university's approach. After explaining university policies, he writes:
no one has been referred for their speech, and free expression remains fully protected at Cornell. But we must understand the difference between protected speech and speech or actions that are designed to suppress the speech and rights of others. Recent Sun letters similarly appear to confuse this issue. Shouting or writing "f*ck you Boeing" is free speech and fully protected; preventing Boeing from discussing jobs with students is not. Calling someone a "kapo" is offensive, but protected speech; breaking through a police line is not.
When I quickly tried to point out this distinction to my questioner, she responded that "Boeing kills babies." That is not a free speech argument, but rather one that asserts a moral justification for violating the rights of others; that assumes the right to decide what activities other students may pursue, what conversations they may have and with whom they may have them. Whatever their argument, whatever the grounds on which they see their actions as justified, we need to be cleareyed about what those actions are: not the assertion of the right of free speech, but the presumption of the right to suppress the speech of others. Jefferson, the flawed individual, but great political theorist and proponent of free speech, asked when arguing against censorship and for religious freedom: "Whose foot is to be the measure against which ours are all to be cut or stretched?" Indeed, who gets to decide which university activities are acceptable and which are not?
No student at Cornell has been punished for expressing their beliefs. Neither will any student be permitted, whatever their feelings of moral righteousness, to forcibly deny others the rights that are central to our mission at Cornell: the rights to freely speak, converse and learn, with whomever and about whatever they choose.
Universities should endeavor to provide broad protection for speech, including offensive or uncomfortable speech, but this does not require excusing or ignoring disruptive conduct. Indeed, a particularly ill-advised approach would be to water down protections for offensive speech while failing to meaningfully punish (and thereby discourage) disruptive and destructive conduct, such as defacing university property, interrupting classes, or disrupting university operations, such as a job fair. Unfortunately, some universities seem intent on making that mistake.
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As statements by university presidents go, this one seems really superlative. It’s clearly written, puts its points in a way that cuts through cant, and doesn’t bog down in specifics or politics. Kudos to president Kotlikoff.
Agreed!
Indeed the statement is clear and to the point.
Someone who truly understands what is and isn't speech -- he won't last long...
I think (genuinely) that you meant to write, "...what is and isn't PROTECTED speech."
Going to a speaker's lecture and screaming through a bullhorn, "Speaker X is a facist," which successfully drowns out X's entire talk is obviously speech. It's just not protected speech.
A teacher telling a student in her class, on the first day of the semester, "You are a fucking Jew/Muslim/atheist/etc. I'm going to give you an automatic fail in this class." is obviously speech. It's just not protected speech.
In general conversation, this distinction might seem a little to recherche. But on a legal blog, especially one founded by a First Amendment professor, it's probably worth emphasizing, for the non-lawyers to have drifted over from other laypeople websites.
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I can't speak for Dr Ed but had I written that comment, I would have said exactly what he did - the dean in this case understands what is and isn't speech at all. Preventing someone else from speaking isn't speech at all even if it's conducted in part via speaking. The dean's calls out things that are explicitly conduct, not speech such as "preventing Boeing from discussing jobs with students" and "breaking through a police line".
Speech, even offensive speech, is allowed and protected. Disruptive conduct is not.
Ed got it right. You seem to be trying to segue into a lesson about speech that shouldn't be protected. That would be your point, but not the essential point made by Cornell's President. Not sure why you want to turn the page here.
Protected speech is just speech we choose to protect. If we punish people for advocating for tax increases, then advocating for tax increases isn't protected speech.
So if students are asking, "Why are you punishing students for free speech?" saying, "Because their speech isn't protected..." isn't much of an answer. You need to articulate a principled basis for the distinction.
Yelling into a bullhorn is conduct that may or may not include speech, but the student isn't being punished for their speech, they are being punished for their disruptive conduct.
I get your point, but the op-ed and the post above have nothing to do with the law. Neither the president of Cornell nor Prof. Adler are making any legal points. The former is explaining his policies in running his school; the latter states his approval (and notes that various other schools are being run quite differently). The basis for this discussion is not the law but plain old moral philosophy (the sort of thing Ayn Rand loved to get into). Here's a good example from the op-ed:
Kotlikoff's predecessor Martha Pollack won Bill Maher's cojones award for standing up to snowflakes. They wanted classes to come with trigger warnings.
Unfortunately, some universities seem intent on making that mistake.
Just say it: the ones in Texas and Florida.
University of Pennsylvania comes to mind. Specifically, it's recent treatment of Amy Wax, and her punishment for speech perceived to be offensive.
And it's hardly Texas and Florida that stand out for failing to crack down on disruptive conduct.
Is misbehavior by woke students provoking a backlash, finally?
Only slightly. University presidents are feeling the pinch to get their protections and punishments right. Probably, they see risk for themselves as other university presidents have been punished by people who care. (And "fuck the Jews" didn't play well around here.)
But it looks to me like wanting speech protected, and bad behavior punished, is only a significant thing for people on the political right. None of the people I know on the left care about this stuff. They pretty much feel like good people don't say offensive things, and that offensive speech is a reasonably punishable behavior. People on the left have been silent as people get punished for what they say, and I don't see any significant change in that position. They are ambivalent at best, and more typically, repulsed by contrary expression.
Just to be clear: few people on the left are punishers of people who speak wrong. Their crime is silence and indifference as the bullies mete out their punishments under a dystopian guise of propriety. That dystopian propriety is now a hallmark of the political left. (Did somebody say "garbage?")
An interesting question to ask is: How come "fuck the Jews" played just fine at our elite universities? (While, of course, "fuck the [...]" -- blacks, gays, Muslims, etc. -- would not have.)
The difference is as arbitrary and capricious as viewing everything through a "lens of oppressor and oppressed." But there you go: Jews are oppressors when viewed through their "lens."
Nah.
This is mostly an Israel-is-special thing. Cornell is one of the universities that had student protestors this spring, then changed it's speech code for the fall.
(to be clear: the reason the students were protesting Boeing is because of it's military connections to Israel. Absent the Gaza-Israel war, this protest wouldn't have happened)
You can argue the school would have come down as harshly on any protestors, but given the timing, you shouldn't be surprised that the students don't see it that way.
Problems with people being punished for speech? Problems with people engaging in disruptive conduct? Nope. That's just a nothing burger with a smear of Zionism.
Correctly stating that the US (and various US institutions) has a special relationship with Israel is a smear on Zionism?
How odd.
Nope. Zionism is what you smear on your nothing burger.
But did they yell, “fire?”
Four years ago Tucker Carlson noted that, paradoxically, "as we become ever more sensitive about the harm that words supposedly do, we become less concerned about [actual] physical violence." At the very same time that various institutions increasingly police our language (i.e., seek to punish "offensive" language), physical attacks / assaults are less likely to be punished. The same entity that will fire X for saying something that, supposedly, offends some religious / ethnic / racial group, will not fire Y for anything he says and, possibly, even for assaulting X. The same people who're screaming for X to be prosecuted for something he says or writes, want Y to not be prosecuted for anything he does. It's all a question of whose ox is being gored.