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More on the Diploma Questions in Adams v. Gulley, the Case Where a Judge Ordered the Removal of Reddit Criticisms of a Public Commentator
The order: As readers may recall, I've written about a recent California court order that restricted online criticism of one Sarrita Adams. Adams runs Science On Trial, Inc., which "provides forensic consultation services across the United States and the United Kingdom." Adams drew public attention by publicly criticizing the evidence in the 2023 English trial of nurse Lucy Letby, who was convicted of murdering seven infants. Her claims were mentioned in, among other publications, The Times (London), the New York Post, and most recently The New Yorker.
Adams' criticism, however, itself drew criticism, including on Reddit's r/scienceontrial ("This community exists to fact check claims about Science on Trial, its creator Sarrita Adams, and various statements that can be credited to her."). The main poster there has been the pseudonymous Reddit user MrJusticeGossipGirl, apparently a reference to Mr. Justice Goss, the judge in the Letby trial. The posts generally criticize Adams' credentials, views on the Letby trial, responses to critics, and more. (There's also a reddit r/sarritaadams, which points the reader to r/scienceontrial.)
But on June 7, San Francisco County Superior Court Maria Evangelista issued a temporary harassment restraining order (Adams v. Gulley, PDF pp. 42-47) ordering defendant Gulley—who appears to be MrJusticeGossipGirl—
Do not make any social media posts about or impersonating plaintiff and her company Science on Trial on any public or social media platform. All harassing posts shall be removed.
This was done based on a restraining order request filed June 6; it appears that Gulley wasn't given an opportunity to appear in court to oppose the order (this is known in this context as an "ex parte" proceeding). The order was extended for over four months, until mid-October, when the court ultimately vacated it on the grounds that the California courts lack jurisdiction over Gulley, a Pennsylvania resident. I argued here that the order also violated the First Amendment and the California restraining order law.
The diploma: But in the litigation over the order, Gulley's lawyers (at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression) alleged that the filings on Adams' side included a seemingly inauthentic diploma:
At the time I posted about that (Oct. 18), I had asked the Cambridge administration (on Oct. 6) whether the diploma was authentic but hadn't gotten an answer. But I finally did get an answer, and here's what the Cambridge people reported that "The attached certificate has not been issued by the University of Cambridge." They specifically noted:
College - There is a spelling discrepancy with the name Caius
Date of Award - 29 June 2017 - The General Admission ceremony held on this date was for the conferment of Undergraduate and Master of Law degrees only, it would not have been possible to be awarded a Doctorate degree on the given date.
Biochemistry - University degree certificates do not state the subject of study/research undertaken for the degree
They also informed me that Adams had studied for a Ph.D. and submitted a thesis, but didn't complete the expected corrections, and thus never received the Ph.D. (Note that some press accounts that discussed Adams' claims about the Letby case stated that "She has a PhD in biochemistry from Cambridge University, according to her online LinkedIn profile." Her petition in the California case, which she filed on her own behalf, also refers to her as "Dr. Adams.")
The response: When I received the response from Cambridge, I naturally asked Adams for her position on the matter. She didn't respond to me substantively, but she did e-mail Cambridge, cc'ing me, so I thought I'd pass it along as her response:
I received the correspondence below from an individual cyber stalker, by the name Eugene Volokh, who is working with numerous individuals, who are listed in this email, to harass and stalk me online.
The individual in question states that he contacted the University of Cambridge, and that they supplied the information below, which if true would appear to be a flagrant violation of GDPR. As for the content of the information, I cannot confirm its validity as I have not received any such correspondence, despite the claims this information concerns my personal data.
Please confirm with me directly, and I will provide further identifying information, to validate my identity. I am copying in the individuals engaged in this campaign of harassment and stalking such that it is clear that the University has been contacted as it concerns claims of a GDPR breach.
Owing to the ongoing cyberstalking and harassment campaign by Mr Volokh and his associates I politely request that the University only replies to me directly. Mr Volokh is stating he will be publishing claims that he derived the information surround my private information directly from the University of Cambridge. I believe his source is likely to be an individual of the name Richard Gill, as he too has been preoccupied with this stalking campaign.
Further note, I am quite certain this ongoing campaign of harassment is due solely to racial animus, as these individuals are not seeking to employ me, nor have I sought any employment opportunity from them, and I have repeatedly requested that they leave me alone. They appear to want to convince numerous individuals that I have no legitimate scientific expertise!! This is of course a racial trope, and it will not surprise that these individuals are all elder white men. Further, Mr Volokh is based in the United States, and he holds no UK citizenship, nor relationship with the University of Cambridge, he is merely attempting to maintain a smear campaign against me. He does have a history of pursuing and stalking ethnic minority females, as in one case he stalked a woman and exposed the pseudonym she used in legal filings.
Just to be clear:
- I assume that the Cambridge administration, which responded to my query, is complying with English law on the subject. (I can't speak about that with confidence, not being an expert on the English law of educational records.) In any event, even if they shouldn't have responded to my question (and I have no reason to think that they shouldn't have), that doesn't seem to go to the underlying factual question related to Ms. Adams' credentials.
- None of this information comes from any Richard Gill; indeed, to my recollection I have never communicated with any Richard Gill on this subject.
- I an entirely unconcerned with Ms. Adams' race, sex, or any other identity attribute. As readers of this blog know, I have written about many overbroad injunctions that restrict speech, brought by a vast range of plaintiffs (some of those posts related to some of the cases discussed in this article). As to the allegation of my supposedly having "stalked a woman and exposed the pseudonym she used in legal filings," that presumably refers to Luo v. Volokh; you can read that California Court of Appeal opinion yourself and see what the Justices thought of the claims that I stalked or harassed Ms. Luo.
- The only "other individuals" that I could see "listed" in Ms. Adams' e-mail (besides her own lawyers) as supposedly involved in trying to "harass and stalk" her were Ms. Gulley's lawyers, who were included in the cc line.
- I can't speak to how much "legitimate scientific expertise" Ms. Adams possesses (and I think none of my posts have sought to opine on that). I am, however, skeptical that she possesses a Ph.D.
A broader perspective: It also seems to me that this situation helps illustrate the dangers of courts blithely accepting requests for harassment restraining orders that restrict public speech. The requests are often presented to the court without a response by the defendant (or, if there is a response, the defendant often doesn't have a lawyer at the time). There is often little opportunity for the court to meaningfully vet the plaintiff's factual assertions, or even to determine whether the court has personal jurisdiction over the defendant.
Yet the orders, though temporary, may be extended for months. And while here the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression successfully interceded pro bono on the defendant's behalf, the result might have been quite different if the defendant hadn't gotten a lawyer: The injunction might well have been extended for five or more years.
Now add to that the tendency to label public criticism "harassment" and "stalking." That is evident in Ms. Adams' e-mail to Cambridge. (Recall that my interaction with Ms. Adams has consisted of writing three posts stemming from Ms. Adams' litigation against Ms. Gulley, see here, here, and here, and talking or corresponding to her with regard to those posts—much the same thing that a newspaper reporter or columnist might do in writing articles about a case.)
But it's not just some litigants' views; some judges seem to fall into it as well. Consider the court's decision to initially grant the order against Ms. Gulley, likewise based largely on Gulley's public posts criticizing Adams, seems to reflect something of the same attitude on the court's part. See, also, e.g., Curcio v. Pels, and many of the cases discussed in my Overbroad Injunctions Against Speech article.
So there's a problem here, I think, going beyond just the possible inaccuracies in claims about Ms. Adams' diploma. I hope publicizing such cases may lead more groups besides FIRE step up to protect defendants' rights in such cases, and may lead courts to be more careful in such cases—to pay more attention to the First Amendment, to personal jurisdiction over the defendants, and to the need for accurate factfinding.
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How is she still trying to lie about having a PhD when Cambridge University have now confirmed themselves that she never completed it!?
The arrogance of this woman is utterly astounding to me.
I would bet a small amount of money that she's paranoid schizophrenic and truly believes she obtained that degree, but dark forces and various stalkers have conspired to alter or misrepresent the records.
I think that’s highly possible. I’ve been following her online antics for a while now and she does seem deeply unstable. Other searchable court documents also suggest she’s up to her eyeballs in debt and not functioning well in society.
I think it’s more simple. She is extremely autistic and extremely intelligent. Her life hasn’t been easy so far. So she is likely traumatized and paranoid by now, as well.
An imposter. You are not me. Delete yourself immediately.
Sarrita is extremely autistic. She has taken her disadvantages and turned them into a strength. Not many women of color could do what she has done. Not many would think to do such a thing.
How hard Lucy's enemies try to keep her in prison. I will free her if I have to scale the walls of Bronzefield at midnight to do so.
“gill1109” you are the imposter here. Lucy will be freed, through an application to the CCRC and ongoing investigative journalism and tv documentaries. Already, questions are being asked in the House of Commons. The “Thirlwall Inquiry” is daily generating revelations favorable to Lucy. And showing itself to be another part of an immense cover-up by forbidding anyone to testify who has positive things to say about Lucy’s character and negative things about the management of the unit. Non-experts have told nonsense about the immunoassay test which allegedly proved insulin poisoning. And so on …
She's appears to be nuts.
I wonder what the "corrections" were that she failed to complete. I'd assume that minor things would be rapidly remedied.
If they asked her to repeat a section of her work, and she was no longer welcome in the lab, that might be more difficult.
Adams has a PhD from Cambridge University. Here’s the link to Cambridge University’s Online Apollo Library. https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/items/ec489692-b090-4f25-8865-cf571e71be35
Is Ms. Adams making her filings pro bono? If not, I wonder how long her lawyers will continue to represent in the face of information that they submitted apparently false information to the CA court on her behalf.
It’s not pro bono. Before deleting her twitter account she ranted about having to pay tens of thousands of dollars out to pay for lawyers to fight this case for her. It’s incredible.
I take it you're asking whether she's pro se, i.e., self-represented. She represented herself when she originally filed her restraining order petition, but she did have lawyers representing her in opposing the motion to dismiss on personal jurisdiction grounds (and the anti-SLAPP motion).
The questionable diploma was filed by her lawyers as Exhibit E accompanying the opposition to the anti-SLAPP motion. That motion, signed by one of the lawyers and bearing the names of both lawyers, states, "Petitioner possesses a PhD in Biochemistry from Cambridge University in the UK. See Exh. E."
ope, yes pro se, had a brain cramp. My bad.
Thanks for the additional info about the specific areas where she is being represented by attorneys. I'd be seriously considering withdrawal at this point if it became clear that my client provided false information that I then submitted the court.
I'm not an expert on this, but I think withdrawal isn't enough, if they become convinced that the document they filed is inauthentic. From Cal. Rule of Professional Conduct 3.3(a) (emphasis added):
IANAL, but Cambridge did not say anything specifically about Ms. Adams in their response, and so it seems unlikely they violated GDPR or other privacy laws. They would not have needed to consult their records about her to provide any of those answers.
Michael P: To be clear, Cambridge "also informed me that Adams had studied for a Ph.D. and submitted a thesis, but didn't complete the expected corrections, and thus never received the Ph.D." That went beyond their statement about the errors on the purported diploma.
I'm no expert in what GDPR does and doesn't permit/prohibit ... but the notion that it prevents an institution from Cambridge from disavowing a falsified/forged diploma (and one submitted as a court filing, no less!) seems ridonkulous to me.
I see no GDPR breach under the circumstances.
All universities have procedures regarding cases of Qualification and Degree fraud. Degree fraud covers misrepresentation and forgery.
In summary and generally speaking, upon receipt of your email Cambridge would have to investigate.
Once the internal investigations ascertained that misrepresentation or forgery occurred, the university is responsible for informing the enquirer of their findings.
I can't find Cambridge's policy and procedures for Qualification and Degree fraud online, but many other UK universities have them published on their websites setting their obligation to inform the outcome of the case to the enquirer who alerted the university of the suspected fraud.
Are you sure Cambridge University informed you of this? Here’s the link to her PhD thesis in their library. https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/items/ec489692-b090-4f25-8865-cf571e71be35
When you empower everyone in the world, to publish world-wide whatever they want to say, at no cost, without prior private editing, occurrences like this one will be commonplace. It is entirely foreseeable.
If like EV you are an advocate for that kind of unrestricted publishing, and then find it distasteful to be targeted by it, maybe you ought to adjust your advocacy.
A century and a half ago Speaker's Corner was just a designated area in the north-east of London's Hyde Park where kooks and sages alike could hold forth. On balance, it was a good thing.
Today thanks to the Internet it is everywhere. On balance, it's still a good thing.
Can you explain a little bit about the system you’d like to see that would have prevented “this one”? Bonus points if you can articulate how it actually promotes freedom of speech rather than restricting it.
Toxic femininity.
Speaking as a boomer, I have to say that this is an example of the great success of feminism in the second half of the 20th century. Now that women have taken their rightful place in public positions, we now know what we coudn't see before - that the world in full of bat-poop women. Live and learn.
Bell sniffer.
I saw that I am one of the older white males allegedly out to discredit Sarrita Adams for purely racist and misogynistic motives. Her work in biochemistry is very high quality and her work for the Lucy Letby case is monumental. Everyone fighting to correct this miscarriage of justice builds on what she did, and though they may disagree on details, the main analysis is correct, and her findings have now been confirmed by numerous authorities from all relevant disciplines. I did attempt to find out if Sarrita’s claim to have a Cambridge PhD is correct. I came to the conclusion that she deserved it and could have received it, but it seems she declined to submit the necessary hard bound paper printed copies by hand in Cambridge for private reasons and therefore was not given the degree. (She could have had a family member do this for her, if she so wanted). I have supported her and her work since I got to know her during Lucy Letby’s trial. BTW I studied maths at Gonville and Caius college (got a PhD later in Amsterdam). Sarrita certainly is a gifted but complicated person.
Gill, Cambridge said “Adams had studied for a Ph.D. and submitted a thesis, but didn't complete the expected corrections, and thus never received the Ph.D.”.
It’s not the case that she simply failed to hand in a hard bound paper copy. She actually never completed her corrections.
Yes, she never completed the corrections. They would have been easy to make. She didn’t want to have the degree because she wanted higher alimony in her divorce case.
That's funny, you sound like a sock puppet of Ms. Adams to me.
Yes, she never completed the corrections. They would have been easy to make. She didn’t want to have the degree because she wanted higher alimony in her divorce case.
I sound like her sock puppet? She hates my guts. I support her work.
Why do you pretend to be me?
Because of equal protections.
If men can pretend to be women, he can pretend to be you.
And I can pretend I really give a damn.
Why are you pretending to be me? No, don’t say. Anyone who fights for Lucy’s freedom is subject to intense trolling on social media. At some point there were four Richard Gill parody accounts on X and a similar number on FaceBook. They have published my home address and harassed my aged mother in a care home in England. Organized a demonstration at Liverpool University when I gave a lecture there. Seems a lot of idiots have invested an enormous amount of ego in their belief in Lucy’s guilt.
It would be interesting to hear this blog’s writers’ opinions on the Lucy Letby case. In my opinion it’s the biggest miscarriage of justice in the UK for quite a long time. But I’m merely a statistician. (But I did already get two serial killer nurses out of jail: Lucia de Berk, Daniela Poggiali) @Eugene Volokh?
Fraud! Impersonator! de Berk and Poggiali were not serial killers! I would never describe them in such a way! Nor would I claim to have liberated serial killer nurses with such glee and abandon!
How does it feel to be described as an "elder white man"? Welcome to the club!
Like this:
Noun
elder (plural elders)
A leader of a community, of great age or seniority.
We were presented to the village elder.
As Prof Volokh is a MOT like many of us here, he's not white, but just extremely pale brown.
I find two publications in pubmed. She's a middle author with Cambridge affiliation which documents she did some bench work.
Whether or not she actually received a diploma doesn't really make her more "expert". It's the complete lack of first author papers that tells you she's not someone who's qualified to have an opinion on much of anything outside of "Phosphorylation of Distinct Sites in MeCP2 Modifies Cofactor Associations and the Dynamics of Transcriptional Regulation"
You’re missing a chapter in a book. She quit academia and did not publish anymore. Her three publications - which correspond to the material in her thesis - came out of her PhD work at an institute for brain research in California. They are in the field of molecular biology and concern the search for genes associated with autism. She had permission from Cambridge to continue her PhD under the supervision of the director of the institute.
Sarrita is first author of the two author book chapter. It’s a very substantial work. The other author is her supervisor at that brain research institute.
Serious Baby Reindeer vibes.
By the way, I saw that the last thread was submitted as part of the court file.
Also, speaking of the GDPR, I think that someone might want to be forgotten ....
First rule of holes- when you're in one, stop digging.
Yeah… as I pointed out to Ms. Adams when she showed up here, prior to any of this my only awareness of her was some brief and generally positive coverage in stories about the Letby prosecution. Now, I know all about her efforts to unconstitutionally restrict criticism, her severe mental health problems, her history of domestic violence, and her apparent efforts to fraudulently claim a doctoral degree. All she had to do was not go on Reddit…
And to the extent she cares, it doesn’t do any favors to Letby herself, who seems to have been the victim of a dubious prosecution (and one that itself raised some significant free speech issues).
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Prof. Volokh,
It appears that the court declined to rule on the anti-SLAPP motion: FIRE said it was for lack of jurisdiction, but the written order said it was moot. Neither explanation makes a lot of sense to me: presumably there’s a live controversy as to whether or not Ms. Adams needs to pay attorneys fees, and I don’t know why the court wouldn’t have jurisdiction to adjudicate that question. If you have any thoughts, I’d love to hear them!
“Phosphorylation of Distinct Sites in MeCP2 Modifies Cofactor Associations and the Dynamics of Transcriptional Regulation”
Damn, :I was looking for an expert on methylation of distinct sites in MeCP2 modification of cofactor associations and the dynamics of transcriptional regulation. I guess I'll have to look elsewhere.
I know a methylation of distinct sites in MeCP2 guy but I'm pretty sure he's not allowed to do cofactor associations any more since the restraining order.
Will the real sockpuppet please stand up?
It seems strange to me that a person who seems to be inches away from completing a PhD wouldn’t go theough the hoops necessary to complete it. But perhaps what ahe was asked to do was more than just “corrections.” Or perhaps she suffered a mental breakdown.
The topic she involved herself in is a very serious one. It’s a shame that the large quantities of personal drama going on here, plus the obvious concerns about her personal credibility that the affair over this “certificate” has engendered, has been such a distraction from it.
The whole thing is pretty wild. In the first big discussion here, I went and looked at r/scienceontrial and came away thinking that MrJusticeGossipGirl seemed WAY too interested in Adams and seemed to be spending an insane amount of time trying to discredit her.
Meanwhile, Adams and her supporters/sockpuppets showed up in the comments section and did a thorough job of discrediting herself. The Gill/Gill hilarity in the comments section here seems like the kind of hijinks that seem endemic to any discussion involving Adams.
FYI, the Richard Gill she refers to is likely this one: https://x.com/gill1109 . What's most unfortunate is that the apparent craziness of some people (like Sarrita Adams) raising questions about the Letby verdicts detracts from the fact that the questions are valid.
The amount of nonsense in this thread is astonishing.
1) I know Richard Gill. I alerted him to @gill1109 impersonating him here. @RichardGill is the actual Richard Gill. And it was about time that he told the truth, given that he started all of this nonsense.
2) I know Sarrita as well, and she 100% does NOT have sock puppets here or anywhere else. She doesn’t even read this stuff. As mentioned here she is autistic and has other disabilities triggered by stress. Volokhs behaviour is absolutetly disgusting. Sarrita is not a public personality (the only people who think that your name appearing in three newspaper articles en-passing, where you’re not even a minor topic of discussion, makes you a public personality are, by no coincidence, angry Eugene and unhinged stalker Amy Gulley). Ms Adams simply carried out a scientific analysis of evidence presented at the Letby trial and did the decent thing of notifying relevant authorities that things were very wrong. Her work has been peer-reviewed extensively by the media who then also stole her work. Amy Gulley has been cyber-stalking and harrassing her for over a year based on BS claims made by Richard Gill, who has made a massive U-turn here.
3) Volokh has claimed that Cambridge University gave him very specific personal data about Ms Adams that he has not quoted here. Yes, I have seen the emails he sent to Ms Adams and to Cambridge University. That would 100% constitute a breach of GDPR in the UK and it is currently being investigated by Cambridge University.
4) The sham certificate that FIRE.org and Volokh claim was filed by her lawyer is something that cannot even be verified, as those filings are not made public by the court. Fire.org published them unlawfully. Neither Ms Adams nor her employee (who was dealing with her lawyer due to her medical conditions) ever saw what was filed or the supposed reply filed by Fire.org (that applies to date). The court never heard any of those filings as Gulley’s lawyers successfully argued that the case was out of jurisdiction, and the case was dismissed without prejudice, which is why no judgement was made on their anti-slapp claim. As such, Gulley’s lawyers cannot claim any fees from Ms Adams.. All legal parties involved have been rightly reported to the state bar.
The reality is that is very easy to pick on, harass and bully a private individual, especially one with disabilities.
This entire affair is absolutely disgusting. This is not a free-speech issue. This is about cyber-stalking and harassment, and the case was dismissed without prejudice.
And before you start saying that I am a sock puppet, my name is Flora and Richard Gill knows me.
I like how a sock puppet thinks — or pretends to — that denying s/he is a sock puppet will convince anyone.
Also, you'd think after the last time you tried to make this argument and were laughed off the Internet, you'd come up with something different, if no less crazy.
Flora, I made no bullshit claims about Sarrita. Sarrita approached me to get help contacting the court in order to send an amicus brief. We worked hard at that. I supported her, I even got 3000 Euros to her to recompense some of her working hours for the LL case. Maybe she doesn’t tell you the whole truth? She lies about me.
You wrote “ The reality is that is very easy to pick on, harass and bully a private individual, especially one with disabilities. This entire affair is absolutely disgusting. This is not a free-speech issue. This is about cyber-stalking and harassment, and the case was dismissed without prejudice.” I agree entirely. The individuals who harass Sarrita are sick, they are evil. They are ghouls who relish the stories of a convicted female baby killer. The whole case was a classic witch hunt. Now some of the witch hunters are hunting Sarrita. They also hunted me.
Yes, I am gill1109@gmail.com and gill1109 on twitter/X etc. I have a blog: https://www.gill1109.com. You can find my phone number there. The “gill1109” saying stupid things in these comments is a troll. I’ve asked the management to chuck them out.
The 1109 comes from my birthdate: 11 Sept 1951; Redhill, Surrey, UK. I’m an emeritus professor of mathematical statistics at Leiden University in NL. I do a lot of scientific consultation, often pro bono. I work on medical statistics, forensic science, and quantum information theory. British and Dutch citizenships.
This is quite hilarious to see this whole case being advocated as one to protect free speech. I’d like to give a bit of background as someone who was on that Reddit Lucy Letby site, before Adams and Gulley met. Gulley was the moderator for the site which had a large following. I put up a post early on and was shocked to see 10000 views… Adams joined the group and quickly started to point out all the scientific problems with the Letby case. Within a very short space of time (a couple of weeks I think!) Gulley had banned her from the site. She was never abusive, but she was very confident of her science, and Gulley banned her because it conflicted with the science presented in the case. So much for free speech.
Adams went off and started writing about the case on another Reddit sub. Very angry people who thought Letby was guilty followed her onto the new sub to try and discredit her there. Adams frequently got annoyed with these people and banned them from her sub. Tit for tat and no free speech again. Then back on the original sub they started to attack her, and they were determined to find out her identity… eventually… I think via Richard Gill they got her identity. They started researching her in depth and got court records of her divorce. They started writing private messages to people who they thought might support Adams. I hadn’t even met Adams at this point, but I was warned publicly on the sub about the ‘fake scientist’ and someone (not Gulley) sent me sections of her divorce proceedings via private message. Are you serious?!! Let me warn you about this person you’re not really interested in by sending you court documents from their marriage break up… It was absolutely nuts! This is all recorded and I have the screenshots to prove it. They also unfortunately mentioned that Adams went to Cambridge where I also went to University. Is this the kind of free speech we are hoping for? Someone can’t go on Reddit anonymously and express an opinion about a trial without risking having their divorce proceedings sent to people they’ve never met.
I was now terrified but fascinated to meet this person and duly got in touch! Adams does not disappoint. As listed above, brilliant scientist, kind-hearted, does a lot pro bono… she gave a free consultation for my son who has autism… he could barely recognise any nouns 18 months ago, now after following her recommendations he’s doing maths in double figures even large figure multiplication and his receptive language and speech are massively improved.
Letby was found guilty, Adams started a new business, science on trial to try and publish the scientific errors in the case, but also to challenge bad science in court generally. It’s taken 18 months but now large numbers of established scientists have confirmed again and again Adams was right about the science in the Letby case.
Gulley did all she could to oppose this. She dismissed Adams with over 3000 posts and set up a Reddit called ‘science on trial’ and another called ‘sarritaadams’ to oppose her. She continued to publish selected extracts on her Letby site of Adams divorce proceedings. Adams asked me to contact Gulley and ask if she could publish another document on her site from the same court proceedings which would help present a more accurate picture. Gulley refused. No free speech here please.
Gulley also told me as MrJGG that she had entered Adams science on trial site multiple times under multiple aliases, and whereas before when you Googled Adams name you would find reference to her scientific publishings, now all you could find were Reddit threads attacking her saying things like Adams says “F*%# you, pay me” which Adams definitely did not say!
Meanwhile Gulley’s Letby Reddit site became so aggressive to anyone who doubted the verdicts that most people who thought she was innocent left. Free speech and all. We’ll go elsewhere. (Twitter in fact!) It is a shell of what it used to be, please check the number of posts from the time of the trial to now, and you can see this clearly.
Finally, Gulley’s lawyers were so lacking in confidence that Gulley could win her free speech case, that instead of arguing that she had a right to say everything she did, they argued that the court had no jurisdiction. If they thought it was a simple clear cut case of free speech then they would have argued it and of course won, and won their anti slapp too, right?
So you can paste this as all being about free speech if you want to… but really it was about a trial, two people who clashed massively about it on social media, the persistent discrediting of one person (who has now again and again been proved right) to the extent that they went to court to get it to stop, and very very little to do with the true defence of free speech!
In the interest of free speech my name is Ruth Gardner. I believe this is an accurate account of the events. I commented on this page previously under a pseudonym but now feel no need to do so!