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Mission to Israel Part VII: The Surveillance Video
Fifty minutes of pure, uncensored barbarism that will haunt me for the rest of my life.
[This is the seventh post in my series on my mission to Israel. You can read Parts I, II, III, IV, V, and VI.]
On the final day of our mission to Israel, we visited the headquarters of the IDF Spokesperson in Tel Aviv. This is the public affairs department of the Israeli military. We would attend a screening of surveillance footage of the October 7 attacks. This was a moment I had been thinking about since I agreed to go on the trip. Would I watch it? This descriptions in this post will be quite graphic, though I encourage you--for reasons that will be made clear at the end--to read on through.
The Holocaust and October 7 Happened
To this day, people deny the Holocaust happened. Some claim the entire Shoach is a fiction. Others claims that there was some murders, but the number of deaths was been greatly exaggerated. Others assert that the German government was not behind the mass exterminations. And so on. What is remarkable is that people hold these views in the face of mountains of evidence. The Nazis were quite proud of their efforts, and documented their systematic efforts to wipe the Jewish people off the map. If you haven't visited the Holocaust museums in Washington, D.C. or New York, you should. And if you went a long time ago, you should go again.
Still, when you visit these institutions, all of the photographs are black-and-white, and the videos are grainy. Though we know these accounts are real, watching them feels like watching a history movie. Nearly nine decades removed, they seem like a thing of the past. And Holocaust deniers insist that these sources are doctored or manufactured.
October 7, 2023, however, is still raw and fresh. And much like the Nazis before them, Hamas was proud of their barbarism. They recorded their acts of terror with body-cameras. They livestreamed murders--often on their victims' phones. They shared on social media photos and videos of horrific acts. All in high definition! There are already specters of October 7th denialism--perhaps the most egregious is that the Hamas terrorists did not commit rapes because their religion forbids it. I saw this claim repeated in the press, without any skepticism. But Hamas documented their own atrocities.
Should I Watch The Video?
In the wake of October 7, Israeli forces collected these photos and videos to document the horrors. Moreover, there were recordings by Israelis on dashboard cameras, doorbell cameras, and other surveillance systems. The Israeli government compiled these scenes into a single movie that stretches about fifty minutes. While many, if not most, of the individual clips can be found online, the compiled footage is kept under strict control. It is only exhibited at secure facilities to certain guests who are cleared.
Members of the Israeli military are not allowed to watch it. It is considered far too traumatic, and traumatizing for people who have lived through October 7. None of my family members in Israel had watched. They had no doubts about what happened on October 7, so why go through the pain of enduring the day again? My Rabbi told me not to watch it. There is a teaching to not cause any shame for dead people. He asked if the people who had been murdered in those videos would want me to watch them in such a terrible state. These were all fair points.
I thought long and hard about whether I would watch it. Initially, on a personal level, I was inclined not to. I do not like horror movies. Generally, if there is any movie with blood or gore, I turn it off. I can't even watch medical programs that depict surgery and other procedures. I close my eyes when I get a shot or have dental work. Yes, I am quite squeamish. There is an expression that is far too overused--"You can't unsee this!" But it is very apt for the surveillance video. I knew that these fifty minutes of pure, uncensored barbarism would haunt me for the rest of my life.
What turned me was a presentation I saw by Judge Roy Altman, who led a mission to Israel for federal judges. Altman described, in graphic detail, what he saw. He has given this lecture in many places, and it is moving. After the lecture, I asked Altman point blank if he regretted watching the videos. On one level, he did, as these images would never leave him. But on a deeper level, watching these videos made his message that much more powerful. Having witnessed the savagery, he could now spread the message around the globe. And this is not a second-hand account. He watched the video with his own eyes. And he didn't simply scan through a few clips on social media. He endured the entire curated film, with no break, in an Israeli military facility.
Altman's explanation persuaded me to watch it. I routinely lecture at law schools and other venues throughout the country. This year, I plan to talk about Israel--if any law school is brave enough to host me. (So far only a few takers.) I intend to relay the medieval acts of terror I witnessed. Having personally seen these clips will allow me to speak to the issue in a way I simply could not have by reading about it. I regret that I personally had to endure the screening. (Although whatever minor inconvenience I had pales in comparison to the suffering that happened on October 7, and to this day.) And to this day, I cannot forget what I saw. I recently watched the Deadpool-Wolverine movie. In one scene, a character decapitates another character, and holds the head up like a trophy. The audience roared in gruesome laughter. I didn't. I saw an actual video of a Hamas terrorist hacking off an innocent person's head, stretching out the skin, and dangling the head by the scalp as the lifeless body lay on the ground. But this was the choice I made, and I think it was the right one.
Not everyone on our mission watched the video. Several members of our mission excused themselves from the room before the screening began. I fully understand their decision. Everyone can bear witness to atrocities in the way that works for them. Indeed, even going to Israel was a risk, as our safety could not be fully assured at all junctures.
The Screening
We would watch the movie in a military briefing room. This was not a cushy movie theater. We were seated in what looked like any law school classroom, with some large displays at the front of the room. There was a clock, which allowed us to keep track of time. I had to leave my phone in a locker outside, as recording was prohibited.
A female officer in the Spokesperson Unit gave a brief introduction. I understand that she is one of the few people in the military who has clearance to watch the video. I can't even fathom what trauma she endures by watching this video each and every day, as different delegations come through. She explained this was the twenty-third version of the video. Apparently, the earlier iterations were even more violent. They showed torture, including the cutting of breasts, a newborn who was shot in the head, and other acts of barbarism. Moreover, there was footage of genital mutilation. Some of the families objected. The faces on those clips were either blurred out, or the clips were removed altogether out of respect for the family. Just think that some video editor within the Israeli government had the harrowing task of winnowing down these clips.
The officer only gave a few preparatory remarks. One, that stuck with me, was how she described the terrorists. She used the word "glee." These were not soldiers who were performing a mission. They were not in any way struggling with their actions. They were joyful for having the chance to kill so many innocent Israelis. It was like they were playing a first-person shooter, but in real life. And they kept repeating one refrain over and over and over again. Allahu Akhbar. Allahu Akhbar. Allahu Akhbar. In almost every scene, the men repeated that phrase at the top of their lungs.
With those brief remarks, the officer started to play the video.
Scenes from the Video
It is difficult to describe in words what I saw. During the fifty-minute video, I sat in stunned silence, with each scene worse than the one before. At a few junctures, I had to close my eyes. When I opened them, I hoped the particular scene would be over, but it wasn't. Occasionally, I would look around the room at the fellow law professors. They all had the same looked of being stunned and mortified. Some closed their eyes. Others put their heads in their hands.
Immediately after the video finished, I started to write down in a notebook everything I could recall. I knew that the particulars would evanesce from my mind, even if the general gore would remain. What follows is a scattered list of my recollections. It does not have any sort of pattern or coherent flow, as the actual surveillance video had none. And it is entirely possible that some of these recollections are composites--a few different scenes were seared together in my memory. But I remember each of these tragic events occurred.
- There were pools of blood on the ground. In movies, blood looks bright red and shiny. but in reality, it is much darker, and quickly absorbs into the dirt. It looks brownish. If I didn't know what it was, I might think it was spilled motor oil.
- Bodies were burned alive in cars. The Hamas terrorists brought accelerant with them, and placed it on the tires and the hoods of the car, so they burned hotter, faster, and longer. One charred corpse was reaching out of the car, trying to escape, but never would. The scorched bodies reminded me of footage from the Holocaust. But unlike grainy footage at a Holocaust museum, these scenes were in full HD.
- One woman was murdered. The terrorists took her phone, and livestreamed it on her social media account. The woman's family learned of her death when she "went live"--something she apparently never did--and saw it in real time.
- A father finds his daughter's burned body. He screams in agony that it is not his daughter. Another woman said that those were the daughter's tattoos. The father refused to believe it. This young woman's legs were spread apart. She was not wearing any undergarments. There was blood between her legs.
- One Hamas terrorist was wearing a Palestinian flag on his body armor. All I could think of was those college students who wave the Palestinian flag around without having any clue what that flag represents.
- There was a radio call intercepted between a Hamas terrorist who entered Israel, and his commander back in Gaza. The commander ordered him to bring a body back to Gaza, and the people could play with the body parts in the square--like a Soccer game.
- There was footage of a bar, plastered with Coca-Cola signs. Many innocent people were hiding behind the bar, but they were shot and killed. Bodies were stacked one on top of another.
- People hid in dumpsters and port-a-potties. They were covered in garbage and feces when they were shot dead.
- One Hamas terrorist dragged a bleeding body from a bedroom all the way outside. The blood streaked across the floor, the entire way.
- A terrorist was piling dead bodies in a pickup truck. The Jewish tradition is to bury all human remains. Hamas knew this, and brought the corpses back to Gaza, so not even the dead could be buried.
- There was another intercepted radio call. A commander said that a captured Israel soldier should be hanged in a square.
- Bodies of captured hostages were paraded in Gaza. The Hamas terrorists actually had to protect the hostages to prevent them from being lynched. For many of these Israelis, their last time being outside was among these mobs.
- At the Nova music festival, young women had their genitals mutilated. They were bound and their clothes were pulled off. Understandably, rape kits were not performed under the circumstances. As a result, much of the evidence of rape was buried with these poor souls.
- Surveillance footage showed a dog approaching a terrorist. The dog looked friendly, and posed no threat. The terrorist shot the dog once. The dog huddled over but kept walking. Two shots, and the dog fell over, but was still moving. Three shots, and the dog died.
- A terrorist tried to decapitate a person. But he was using a dull garden hoe, so he couldn't cut through all the way. He kept hacking and hacking and hacking at the neck, but it didn't sever all the way. The head sort of flopped over, but was still connected. This sort of medieval barbarism belongs in a different millennium.
- It is early in the morning. A father and his two sons run from their bedrooms into the living room. The boys (about 7 and 9 years old) are still wearing their underwear. They run into a bomb shelter in their backyard. These shelters are meant to protect people from explosions, but are not locked. Several terrorists throw a grenade into the shelter. It explodes. The surmise is that the father jumped on the grenade. He died.The terrorists bring both of the boys into the backyard and are yelling at them. The boys are then left alone in the living room. One boy says, "I think we are going to die." The other says, "Dad is dead." One of the boy's eye is bleeding. The brother asks if he can see out of that eye. He cannot. They are sitting there, crying, unsure of what to do. Somehow, they manage to escape and run to a cousin's house and survived. The boy would lose his eye. Later, the mother would come home and see the shelter, and her husband's corpse. The agony on her face was heart wrenching.
- Hamas terrorists enter a kindergarten. There are posters of Queen Elsa from Frozen, which is one of my daughters' favorite movies. Another corpse of a young child is shown wearing Mickey Mouse pajamas, which were stained with blood.
- Hamas terrorists were setting a house on fire after killing the occupants. They used accelerants to make the fire burn hotter. One shouted "burn it down." The symbolism was clearly intended to invoke the Holocaust. There was shattered glass everywhere, which invoked Kristallnacht.
- I've seen countless movies where a person is shot. Usually, the person who is shot stumbles, falls, and moves around a bit afterwards. The dying is very dramatic. In reality, a person shot at close range in cold blood immediately drops and dies almost instantaneously.
- One terrorist repeated over and over again "This is for history" and "We are heroes." They truly believed they were making history, and they would be remembered as heroes. But not in the way they intended.
- In another video, the decapitation was successful. After many cuts, the head was fully severed off. The skin sort of draped over the neck. It reminded me of the stretch-faced characters from Beetlejuice. And like in the Deadpool movie, the terrorist held up the head by the hair, as if it was a trophy. The lifeless body was bent on his knees. Hamas social media uploaded a photo of that headless body. During the decapitation. I kept closing my eyes, hoping the scene would be over, but it wasn't. It continued on and on.
- There was a burned head that was severed in half. The teeth were burned. It looked like a mummy from ancient Egypt.
- The IDF intercepted a voice call between a Hamas terrorist and his parents in Gaza. The son told his father, beaming with pride, that he killed 10 Jews with his bare hands. He kept telling his father to check his Whatsapp. (Someone should tell him who the founder of Meta is.) Then he says, "I want to talk to mom." As if he got a sterling report card. His mother was so proud. She said "Praise to god" and "Kill, Kill, Kill."
The Aftermath
The video concluded abruptly, without any notice. It was over. We were then given a short break. I was stunned. I walked out into the courtyard for some fresh air. A fellow law professor was crying on the ground. I gave him a hug, even though I felt about the same.
We were brought back into the classroom to discuss what we had witnessed. I didn't have many words. All I could think of was asking how the officer was able to watch this video day-in and day-out.
After the presentation, we had a briefing from some IDF military lawyers (MAG). I wrote about some of what I learned from the military lawyers here. In truth, I was pretty distracted, but I tried to pay attention as closely as I could. It amazed me that knowing how horrific these atrocities were, the military lawyers could still be so committed to these international institutions that treat Israel so unfairly.
Afterwards, we went to lunch with several of the soldiers from the Public Spokesperson division. One of them, Oriyah Solomon, was an Orthodox female who recently was married. Until recently, there was no obligation for observant Jews to serve, and certainly no expectation that "frum" women would serve. But she volunteered, in part to demonstrate that other religious women can serve their countries. I found her message inspiring.
Who Should Watch This Video?
Israel has not released this video to the general public. The fear is that if it is released, it would make a splash for a short period, and then quickly be forgotten. And, in turn, it would cheapen the atrocities. Some may actually valorize the killers, and it could be used as propaganda. Frankly, I do not think most people would have the stomach, or motivation to sit through the full hour of footage. They may watch a brief clip, and then shut it down. There was something meaningful in watching the clips at a secure facility, in a room full of interested people, with a military chaperone. I would never forget it.
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There was something meaningful in watching the clips at a secure facility, in a room full of interested people, with a military chaperone. I would never forget it.
I think that's the effect they were going for.
Doesn't render what he saw faked, though.
It was very real. Most people simply have no conception just how starkly evil Islamic terrorists really are. Terrorists in general. Being normal people, they just can't imagine actually wanting to do things like that.
Indeed. Propaganda is fair game in war, particularly if it uses accurate information. You see it in Ukraine too. The Ukrainians are releasing exactly the information that is helpful to their cause, in the manner that's most helpful to their cause. I would begrudge no party in any war the right to do that.
Calling it "propaganda" suggests it is somehow manipulated or telling only part of the story. What exactly was manipulated about the footage? Did the IDF cut out parts of the footage that somehow explained the barbarism? What context or "other side of the story" is missing from the presentation that would otherwise lead a viewer to see the atrocities in a different light?
Well, it's definitely only telling part of the story. That's why viewers like Josh have to view it critically, which he clearly did. /s
I think Mr. Grimes asks a fair question. What do you think might have been left out that would've made the video more fair to other parts of the story? Do you think something may have happened that day that could've justified murder, rape, and kidnapping of civilians?
The video evidence won't be enough. People will still say "the helicopters killed all the people at the music festival" or "it was the Hannibal directive."
I still remember when the people on the so-called Gaza relief boat were shot when the boat was boarded by the IDF. The claim was that the soldiers immediately started shooting people randomly. The Israelis released clear video of soldiers rappelling onto the deck, and they were unmistakably carrying paintball guns. The soldiers were immediately swarmed and beaten by people as soon as they hit the ground.
It didn't matter. The reply was "what about the other parts of the boat where Israelis boarded?"
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The video evidence won’t be enough."
Unfortunately, similar issue with the number people denying the holocaust.
It is only exhibited at secure facilities to certain guests who are cleared.
What are they looking for when deciding who gets to watch?
People who won't stand up and cheer?
There's a scene in The Producers where an audience member applauds something that doesn't deserve applause. The rest of the audience deals with him.
Maybe they are looking for loyal Jews who will tell the world how bad Hamas is. Maybe they are looking for people who won't sneak a spy camera into the room.
You don't think Hamas is evil?
What the hell would convince you?
That's a really good question. I would guess one of the things they are looking for are prominent American conservatives like Prof. Blackman. They wouldn't give viewing privileges to someone like Michael Luttig, for instance.
Don't let facts confuse you.
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/syg6vo1va
Okay, which facts am I not to be confused by?
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/majority-antisemitic-incidents-were-done-far-leftists-not-muslims-combat
"This is a report on a study of 113 incidents that targeted Jews, worldwide. The analysis was done by the Combat Antisemitism Movement. The results won’t be a shock to anyone who has paid attention; still, they are striking:"
"The weekly Global Antisemitism Report published by the Combat Antisemitism Movement analyzed 113 incidents that targeted Jewish victims worldwide and found that 57.5% of the perpetrators were identified as far leftists, 22.1% of them were Islamists, 11.5% were unknown and 8.9% were done by far-right extremists."
The democrat party and leftist have become the home of the anti-semites.
Indeed. Some Jews are waking up to this fact:
https://nypost.com/2024/07/16/opinion/bidens-loss-of-jewish-support-could-cost-dems-the-presidency-and-more/
https://nypost.com/2024/08/11/us-news/trump-gop-eye-record-share-of-jewish-vote-over-antisemitism-a-real-issue/
There are many Jews in this country. Some are indeed quite gullible.
Yes, like Sheldon Adelson, for example. He didn't realise that the position of Court Jew no longer exists.
What does this comment mean?
Sadly, Google Translate is unable to translate English to Moron, so you are condemned to remain forever unenlightened.
Gotta love Solomon. His headline: "Majority of antisemitic incidents committed by leftists, not Islamists or neo-Nazis, research find [sic]."
A more accurate headline: "Majority of antisemitic incidents in one particular week committed by leftists, not Islamists or neo-Nazis, 'research' finds"
But since the statistics lump together violent attacks, vandalism, and people saying nasty things about Israel, it's not the most helpful anyway.
I have to agree with you that a one week study in the summer before most universities are back in session is likely unrepresentative.
I hope the compile the results for a full month when all the universities are open, say October right before the election.
Would that be good enough for you?
Regardless of whether or not it would be "good enough for" him, it wouldn't alter the shoddiness of Solomon's work.
analyzed 113 incidents that targeted Jewish victims worldwide
Given that there are typically well over 1,000 hate crimes against Jews reported every year in the US alone, 113 incidents globally in a single week don’t prove the claim. Indeed, the absence of reference to other weeks suggests the opposite.
The Replican Party has a leader who, as WaPo puts it, has trafficked in anti-Semitic tropes. And if you want to argue “both sides”, it’s the Replican party whose resident anti-Semites seem to be more prominent – like Marjory Trailer Queen.
You want the lefts to be all the antisemites all in one bunch so much you may consider questioning why you need to do so much work to make it look like it’s true.
I'd say straining to make antisemitism a partisan thing is a really bad idea, but I don't think you much care.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_United_States_Congress_hearing_on_antisemitism
Do you think any of the three university presidents who appeared at this hearing -- or scores of other college presidents who've allowed the "anti-Zionists" to run riot -- are Republicans?
They were not Team R.
I don't think those University Presidents are antisemites.
I think your definition of antisemitism is partisan bullshit which does no favors to Jews or Israel.
Yes, straining to make anti-Semitism a partisan thing is bad.
Take this 2022 article from the NY Times as an example:
Antisemitism Increased Under Trump. Then It Got Even Worse.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/29/opinion/antisemitism-post-trump.html
“The radicalization of the Republican Party has helped white nationalism flourish. Antisemitism started increasing in 2015, when Donald Trump came on the political scene and electrified the far right, then spiked during his administration. Trump is now gone [not hardly], but the Republican Party has grown more hospitable than ever to cranks and zealots. Two Republican members of Congress, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gosar, spoke at a white nationalist conference this year.”
Its telling of an agenda when an article calls out specically two congressmen by name and neither are Tlaib or Omar or several other usual suspects, not that I am defending MTG or Gosar, just pointing out the wilful partisan blindness in the article.
It didn’t take because its bullshit, and the ADL its prime purveyor are an obvious partisan hit squad, like the SPLC.
But there is a utility to people concerned about anti-Semitism to notice which parties and candidates are friendly with it, and where it is more prevalent, and voting accordingly.
Including allegations of disperate treatment of pro Palastinian and pro Isreal factions at the Democratic convention.
Wait you mean the NYT is bad? Holy smokes!
I would note you seem to be right where the Time is in your comment.
And neither of you are calling Dems the party of Hamas or calling University Presidents not just unwise but actual antisemites.
I remember my first trip to Israel, back in the 1980s. This was long after the last real war was over, but what struck me then (and is no doubt even more true now) was that the Israeli people I met there still behaved (and presumably thought) as if they were in the middle of a war.
It wasn't directed at me (an American with some Jewish heritage), but their wartime mentality was still quite evident when interacting with me. I'm not saying it was their fault--they had been attacked numerous times over the decades since the founding of their country by some very nasty religious/nationalist fanatics who show no sign of stopping. Being on a "war footing" under such circumstances makes sense.
But it was also a very unpleasant trip, mainly for that reason.
So, thanks to Hamas, Israel now has an ever-ready means of reminding people that the war continues, and there will never be peace, so long as their enemy still breathes. I will never go back.
When I saw the headline, I assumed Blackman was referring to the sacking of the ancestral Palestinian village of Jit by masked, armed settlers, murdering one man. Or that destruction of the aid convoy by settlers. But, alas, it was only about Hamas atrocities
Nothing important, eh?
The whataboutism is getting pretty desperate.
On the one hand, Hamas is the government of Gaza and the political choices of Gazans lead to an official regime that has an official policy of genocide and conquest, policies they carry out with abandon. On the other hand, on the Israeli side, you have occasional bad acts by private actors and a government policy that is the most careful to avoid civilian casualties in the history of humanity. The dynamic of Israel/Palestine has been the same for decades; Palestinians love murder and absolutely would genocide Israel if they could, but they lack the competence. Israel absolutely could genocide Palestinians if they wanted to, but they've extremely mercifully elected not to kill the people that are trying to kill them.
I suggest Palestinians stop pushing their luck, because the careful operation that's happening now in Gaza is a fraction of what's possible. If Israel actually wanted to depopulate Gaza, it would take perhaps a few weeks of free fire.
Firing? A combination of cluster bombs, Napalm, and flooding the tunnel system would so it a lot faster.
I haven’t tried to push that Israel is the most careful country in the world. Merely being average, and they are certainly well above it, is enough to make clear these genocide stories are bullshit.
Hamas supporters like TextFirst have read their KKK literature very carefully. They’ve used an approach similar to the ones the ex-Confederates used about the brief period of black power during Reconstruction, when they used isolated anecdotes just like TextFirst is doing to convince everybody that black people were brutal savages who murdered, raped, and robbed every white person they could the minute they were allowed to have any power. And like TextFirst is doing here, they dealt with even unequivocal evidence of lynching horrors largely by trying to refocus attention on black atrocity stories and suggesting lynched black people only got what they justly deserved.
It’s understandable Hamas and their supporters would study the Klan playbook carefully and learn to apply it skillfully. It worked for the Klan. It seems to be working for Hamas.
You mean Hobie, not TextFirst?
? I think you egregiously misread what's happening here. I support the extermination of Hamas to the last man and Israel accept however many Gazan casualties it takes to get from here to there. What that has to do with the KKK and reconstruction is a mystery of their own mind, as is how you read my comment and think I support Hamas.
I don't support Hamas. They're savages. I don't support the settlers. They' re savages. I do support people who have their homes and villages stolen
Stolen when? Biblical Israel was stolen from the Jews by Babylon and Rome, them was Christian for hundreds of years before the Muslims stole the land. The British got it for a while. The United Nation's granted land to Israel, who was immediately invaded by Muslims. Israel then won defensive wars and acquired more land, but less than what was stolen by Rome and Byzantium. By what right do the Gazans, who were Egyptian for centuries, claim any land?
Who did the Jews steal it from?
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You raise a good point.
If you let hamas survive, (cease fire etc) they simply live to fight another day.
One of the reasons Japan and Germany have developed into very productive peaceful societies, is that the allies destroyed the culture that led to continuous wars. WWII was Germany's third major war in just 70 years.
Agreed. Japan and Germany were not just defeated, they were thoroughly pacified. Broken from their imperialist fever they became prosperous world powers and good citizens. Same needs to happen to Russia
And Hamas , hezbolah, hourthi, and the iranian clergy who happily fund those groups
Yeah, there certainly were sanctions in Japan against some considered in the Militarized class, Including my late father in law who was a graduate of the Japanese Military Academy and a young lieutenant at the end of the war. He was barred from some jobs and faced some discrimination in getting into some graduate schools in Japan.
It limited his prospects for a few years after the war.
He had to get his Phd in the US, and became a calculus professor here.
I understand that Israel may not want to show the videos publicly to avoid giving out too much information about not just their surveillance video capabilities but also their interceptions of Hamas communications, least Hamas use the information in planning a future attack. I also understand that families may not want to show videos of injured and naked or raped children etc.
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But I think this is a mistake. I think they should take the risks of disclosing sources and methods, accept the harm that this may cause to grieving families, and release the videos publicly. I think this is critical given the groundswell of public support for Hamas and its propaganda that has occurred in Western countries.
I think there should be public screenings on evety university campus that has a pro-Hamas protest.
“… Israel may not want to show the videos publicly to avoid giving out too much information about not just their surveillance video capabilities ..”
Much of that video is from bodycams worn by the Oct 7th Hamas terrorists themselves to show to their home folks in Gaza what they did to Israelis during their raid. A lot of the Hamas-shot footage makes Marquis De Sade’s 120 Days of Sodom look tame. And a lot of that footage was released by Hamas on global social media (just that footage self-released by Hamas makes a damning document).
They don't want to feed the market for snuff films.
"The audience roared in gruesome laughter. I didn't."
That experience is not unlike mine when I returned from a deployment to Iraq during which I had viewed a significant number of videos of ISIS/Da'esh atrocities (mass executions, single executions, beheadings, etc.) and more than one mass execution in real time. A month later I very nearly knocked on the door of a house in my neighborhood to express, physically if necessary, my distaste for a Halloween display that featured fairly prominently a dismembered mannequin covered in fake blood and strung up by meat hooks. I was outright enraged anytime we drove anywhere near the house.
Fortunately, a similar visceral response to a far more benign decoration was enough to help me recognize the connection to my deployment, and I was immediately far better able to process those reactions.
Hamas members and supporters, just as ISIS members and supporters, need to be hunted by the military and either killed or forced to surrender and then subject to lengthy incarceration.
I repeat.... Never Again
Thank you Mr. Blackman and Prof. Volokh.
Yes, NEVER AGAIN. Be always armed.
Shalom Aleichem