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Case Over Handcuffing and 30-Minute Detention of Concealed Carry Permit Holder Can Go Forward
"[A] person in possession of a firearm and a facially valid permit for that firearm had a clearly established right to be free from the kind of forcible and prolonged detention to which Soukaneh was subjected, absent any objective reason to suspect that the permit was forged or otherwise invalid."
From yesterday's Second Circuit decision in Soukaneh v. Andrzejewski, decided by Judge Eunice Lee, joined by Judges Gerard Lynch and Beth Robinson:
The evidence, taken in the light most favorable to Plaintiff-Appellee Basel Soukaneh, would permit a reasonable jury to find that in the course of a routine traffic stop, [Nicholas Andrzejewski, a Waterbury, Connecticut police officer] unlawfully and violently handcuffed and detained Soukaneh in the back of a police vehicle for over half an hour and conducted a warrantless search of Soukaneh's vehicle after Soukaneh presented a facially valid firearms permit and disclosed that he possessed a firearm pursuant to the permit. On appeal, Andrzejewski argues that we should reverse the district court's denial of qualified immunity because the presence of the lawfully owned firearm in the vehicle gave him the requisite probable cause to detain Soukaneh, search the interior of his car, and search his trunk….
Andrzejewski argues that … his actions … were justified because he had both "a reasonable suspicion of possible criminal activity" and "probable cause to detain [Soukaneh] and search his person and his vehicle" once he was made aware of the presence of a gun in the vehicle—even absent any articulable basis to question the permit's validity….
The desire to confirm the legitimacy of the facially valid firearms permit that Soukaneh presented did not—with nothing more—provide Andrzejewski with probable cause for the half-hour or longer handcuffed detention that occurred. It is uncontested that Soukaneh presented Andrzejewski with a gun license, the legitimacy of which Andrzejewski himself admits he had no reason to question. Moreover, Andrzejewski concedes that he was informed of the facially valid license before Soukaneh told him that he had a gun and specified its location.
Andrzejewski does not allege that the permit appeared abnormal in any fashion or that Soukaneh engaged in any suspicious or threatening behavior. On the facts before us, Andrzejewski does not provide an articulable reason why he, or any other reasonable officer, could conclude that there was probable cause to believe that Soukaneh possessed his firearm unlawfully in violation of Section 29-38(a). To find otherwise would consign those validly carrying firearms pursuant to a license to automatic detention because it would effectively presume that gun permits are invalid until proven valid, or that lawfully owned guns are per se contraband until proven otherwise. Such a finding would effectively render armed individuals' Fourth Amendment rights meaningless when they are lawfully carrying firearms.
{The potential effect of Andrzejewski's argument on the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment is worth noting, notwithstanding that those rights are not in dispute for purposes of this appeal. While not every lawful possession of a firearm will trigger Second Amendment protection, some will. Regardless of whether the Second Amendment applies, however, individuals lawfully possessing a weapon should not be penalized by having a diminishment of their Fourth Amendment rights.} …
We [also] conclude that the ubiquity of Fourth Amendment protections established in the plethora of traffic stop cases put Andrzejewski on notice of the protected rights at issue during his de facto arrest of Soukaneh in the absence of probable cause. We have made clear that "a constitutional right to be free from arrest without probable cause, as well as a constitutional right to be free from unreasonably prolonged or intrusive investigative detention" are themselves the clearly established rights that justify the denial of qualified immunity….
This is not a close case, about which reasonable officers could differ. The law as it stood at the time of the events in question left no doubt that a person in possession of a firearm and a facially valid permit for that firearm had a clearly established right to be free from the kind of forcible and prolonged detention to which Soukaneh was subjected, absent any objective reason to suspect that the permit was forged or otherwise invalid…. We therefore affirm the judgment of the district court to deny Andrzejewski's motion for summary judgment and decline to find that Andrzejewski has qualified immunity as to his detention of Soukaneh….
In addition to being necessary for Soukaneh's de facto arrest, probable cause was also needed for the warrantless searches of his car. As discussed above, no such probable cause existed. However, another inquiry for determining the lawfulness of a vehicle search during a traffic stop is whether an officer had a reasonable apprehension of danger—which may permit a Terry frisk of the automobile…. [Still,] the presence of a lawful weapon alone does not automatically make someone suspicious, nor a situation dangerous, such as would justify the Terry frisk of a car….
Andrzejewski attempts to justify the search of the trunk by arguing that the recovery of Soukaneh's lawful gun provided probable cause to search the trunk for other guns under the automobile exception…. Andrzejewski argues that once he retrieved the gun identified by Soukaneh in the driver's side door compartment, he had the requisite probable cause to search the trunk for contraband. But the presence or retrieval of the lawful firearm could not, and did not, provide probable cause to search for contraband in the trunk, absent indicators of criminal activity. Andrzejewski attempts to justify his actions by relying on cases in which the discovery of contraband (e.g., the discovery of drugs) provided a foundation for probable cause for a warrantless search under the automobile exception. But a lawfully owned gun is not per se contraband. Andrzejewski provides no other basis for suspicion that the trunk contained illegal weapons, or any evidence to suggest a crime was afoot to justify his separate intrusion into the trunk…. Andrzejewski's warrantless searches of Soukaneh's car and trunk violated clearly established Fourth Amendment rights to be free from unreasonable searches….
John R. Williams represents Soukaneh.
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“Andrzejewski attempts to justify the search of the trunk by arguing that the recovery of Soukaneh’s lawful gun provided probable cause to search the trunk for other guns under the automobile exception…. Andrzejewski argues that once he retrieved the gun identified by Soukaneh in the driver’s side door compartment, he had the requisite probable cause to search the trunk for contraband.”
That’s so bizarre that it sounds like a setup for a diminished capacity argument.
"While not every lawful possession of a firearm will trigger Second Amendment protection . . . "
What the hell?
Conceivably you could lawfully possess a firearm, but the subjective circumstances could be such that the 2nd amendment wouldn’t shield you from a lawful search.
Like, you’re walking down the street with a lawful firearm holstered by your side, and a nearby jewelry store has just phoned in a report that a guy with a holstered firearm walked in, pocketed a bit of the merchandise, and ran off. The police on the way to the store spot you a half block from the store, walking away from it.
Granted, they ARE searching you because you’ve got the holstered firearm, but the temporary arrest and search of your pocket would probably not be considered a 2nd amendment violation on that account. The presence of the firearm was just an element of the store’s description of the perp.
At least, that's the best I can come up with to justify it.
When the police walk into a convenience store and see a robber pointing his lawfully possessed firearm at the clerk demanding the money from the cash register, the Second Amendment provides no protection.
I was trying to come up with a scenario where the gun was the "but for" cause of the search. Not one where the 2nd amendment is irrelevant because they could arrest you even without a gun being present.
Under Bruen’s history and tradition standards, the historical record is loaded with cases where display of a firearm was treated as just cause for detainment of a suspect. Don't law enforcers have power to search people they detain, to protect the law enforcers?
The problem here is a demand to treat firearms as legal in cases involving the presumptively law abiding, and illegal in cases of presumptive criminals. Two standards based on no more than presumptions are the source of the problem.
Actually, the problem here is that the state explicitly licensed the guy to be carrying that gun, and then the cop up and decided to treat his having it as presumptively illegal anyway.
Even absent the 2nd amendment that's unreasonable police conduct.
What does the license have to do with a presumption of non-danger later on, during a police encounter?
His being licensed to have it represented the state the cop worked for officially declaring that it wasn’t dangerous for him to have the gun on him. That’s how it has to do with it.
We’re not talking about a situation which tended to contradict that judgement. It was just a routine traffic stop. It was LESS than a routine traffic stop, he was already parked where it was legal to park, adjusting his GPS unit. He didn’t even have a brake light out!
When the officer requested his license, (Which he barely had any basis to do, and none to go beyond that.) he also passed over his permit and informed the cop that he had a gun in the car, as concealed permit laws typically mandate you do during a traffic stop!
Then the cop used the fact that he, breaking no law, complied with that law, as a pretext to run him through the wringer.
So, you want to tell people who go through the hoops to get a legal concealed carry permit that doing so, and complying with the law, will provide any cop they encounter with a legal excuse to assault them and conduct a warrantless search.
And you think 'gun nuts' are the unreasonable ones.
It does seem a bit odd to license someone to drive a car, then arrest them later for being in possession of a car, on the grounds that cars are dangerous. Cars are dangerous, of course, but are also legal to possess.
Gun nuts invariably insist they are all law abiding, as a permanent status. They are not. It is bonkers to insist on it as a legal presumption.
Concealed carry permit holders commit crimes at about 1/6 the rate of police officers.
Also, the cop was not treating the gun as presumptively illegal. He was treating it as presumptively dangerous. Which it is.
Which it was NOT, is the point.
The 2nd amendment is a floor, but states are free to allow greater rights. That state may legalize a form of carry, a type of arm for carry, etc. that it could prohibit if it chooses (think something like a grenade). A cop using the possession of that as probable cause doesn't implicate the 2nd amendment because it isn't protected by the 2nd amendment. But it still would violate the 4th because because it is lawfully possessed by statute. So they are 100% correct, not all lawful possession triggers 2nd Amendment protection.
I'm not so sure that a state can legalize an arm, without it subsequently becoming commonly owned for legal purposes, and 2nd amendment untouchable. Maybe something not very many people want in the first place...
Of course they can. The 2nd amendment is national. If 49 states prohibit an arm and the 50th allows it, it will never be commonly owned nationally to trigger the 2nd amendment.
Incidentally, I'm also not sure that is the correct test anymore. That was Heller's test. Bruen says the test should be history and tradition. And it wasn't really clarified subsequently whether that supplanted, added, or amended Heller's test.
I don't think it's an "of course" on either side of that argument; It could go either way if and when the Court actually hears such a case.
They didn't, after all, say "commonly owned nationally", they just said commonly owned. So it may be that if Utah, say, legalizes street sweepers, and they catch on in Utah, that has no implications for other states, but Utah is barred from changing its mind on account of letting them become common there.
To be clear, I don't LIKE the in common use standard, because during those decades between Miller and Heller when the Court was refusing all 2nd amendment cases, what was in common use got warped by gun control laws that never faced proper constitutional review. Who knows what would be in common use today if not for those laws? Maybe all rifles would come with select fire just as a standard feature if not for the NFA!
"In common use" grandfathered in a lot of laws that might not have survived constitutional scrutiny if it had existed when they were enacted, and licenses the government to stop civilian firearms development in its tracks. As a default rule it's not so bad, but it has to be the case that arms can be protected without already being commonly used, or you get pathological results.
"What the hell?"
What the hell indeed.
Hillary Clinton ran on (a) she would repeal the Second Amendment or amend it to read "the People" have "the right to keep and bear arms" only when on active duty in the organized militia (National Guard) and (b) she deemed the Heller and MacDonald decisions wrongly decided and would get them overturned.
A New York judge recently declared that the Second Amendment "does not exist" in her court room. New York State unlike the majority of states (40+) does not have a state constitutional right of the individual or citizen to keep and bear arms for traditional lawful purposes.
When asked what he would do to citizens who would not surrender their AR15s under his proposed reinstatement of the AWB, Biden reminded the questioner the fed gov had F15s and Hellfire missiles and Buttigieg chimed in the feds have nukes.
Apparenrly as far as some are concerned there is no Second Amendment and no lawful possession of firearms to protect.
“[Argument of lofty constitutional arguments in cases far, far away], therefore [Police officer] was on notice of blah blah blah.”
Well, yes in theory, but isn’t this the fault of ths city for not (re)training their officers in the latest? The police leadership and their advisory lawyers, whose job it is to do this?
Do they have to “sue through” the officer to get at the deep pockets city? A rogue officer, sure, he's on his own, but...?
re: “isn’t this the fault of ths city …”
A, no and b, even if it were something sufficiently obscure as to require training, that’s not the standard the rest of us are held to. Cops and prosecutors love to pull the ‘ignorance of the law is no excuse’ card. Well, if that’s true then it works both ways. Cops at least have some training (and access to lots of dedicated materials) telling them what the law is today.
We produce products and have lawyers that track regulations we must adhere to. Scanning aall that crap and what needs to be done gets no where near engineers. We read it and do it, but it is presented as regulations we must adhere to.
I don't disagree with you. It is cheesy for government to be two-faced.
And, anyway, exactly how much training do you need to know that having a firearm and a concealed carry permit is not inherently suspicious? It's roughly on a par with searching somebody because they were driving a car and displayed a driver's license when stopped.
In qualified immunity cases the courts have held whatever policy or training police get is irrelevant. Though, in other contexts, they pooh-pooh the notion police spend any time reading appellate court decisions.
Those who have been injured by police have to sue the individual officer/s under Sec. 1381. There's a complicated set of legal theories- with many hoops- which enable such victims to sue the city/state called the Monell Doctrine, but I don't think I've ever seen a Monell case (successful or not) which didn't also include a lawsuit against the officer/s.
"which may permit a Terry frisk of the automobile…."
Frisking a car? WTF! The law is an ass.
Contrast Schubert v. City of Springfield 589 F.3d 496 (1st Cir. 2009) before Second Amendment incorporation. https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/204123/schubert-v-city-of-springfield/
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