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Academic Tuition and Student Loan Relief
My thoughts on this as a policy issue
There is an important issue that reached the Supreme Court in Biden v. Nebraska, 600 U.S. 477 (2023). President Biden and his Vice President, Kamala Harris, are on the record as favoring the use of presidential power to enact student loan relief without an appropriation by Congress. This is both a bad idea and is unlawful, as the Supreme Court explained in Biden v. Nebraska last year. Since then, President Biden has continued his unlawful attempts to spend money without an appropriation from Congress, an appropriation that is required under Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution.
It is worthwhile, however, to consider the merits of this as a policy idea. Retroactive relief from student loans seems unfair to those who have been paying student loan debt or who never borrowed money in the first place. There are some, however, like Sen. Bernie Sanders, who are on the record as believing that federal money ought to be used to pay for anyone's college tuition. Is this a good idea?
It is certainly true that college tuition, which costs more than $100,000 a year, is unaffordable by 99% of the American people. I am acutely aware of this, having paid for my four children's college tuition myself. Should taxpayers play a role in financing a college education? This is an important public policy question, which will certainly come up in the next two years.
As a law professor for the last 34 years, I have a special window into understanding the forces that are driving historically unprecedented tuition increases in academia. I believe that one of the main drivers of tuition increases is not faculty salaries, which have been stagnant, but instead increases in the size of university bureaucracies. These increases in my view are often harmful to the academic mission. They also impose an insurmountable burden on the American people.
Faculty members are powerless in addressing this problem because tuition is set by University administrators and not by a vote of the faculty. I think alumni and faculty are often unaware of how unaffordable tuition has become. They are also unable to do anything about it. There thus exists a huge problem with record high college tuitions and with essentially no market forces constraining it.
I have, quite reluctantly, come to the conclusion that the unaffordability of college to 99% of the American people must be addressed in the same way as was done in the 1880's for monopoly railroad rates when the Interstate Commerce Commission (ICC) was created. I regrettably see no way of addressing the roots of this problem except by creating a new federal regulatory commission with the power to regulate any college tuition increase above the national rate of inflation.
I do not like the idea of empowering the government in this way over academia, but I see no other way out of a situation that has become a crisis. The government already plays a huge role in academic life as a result of many federal statutes, and as a result of the role the Department of Education plays. The creation of a federal agency with the power to regulate tuition increases beyond the rate of inflation will not undermine academic freedom anymore than existing federal laws have already done.
Such a commission should consist of two members from both political parties plus a chair of the president's party who serve for five year terms. Commissioners should serve at will, and the Commission must be a part of the executive branch. Commissioners should be nominated by the president subject to confirmation by the Senate. Presidents and senators should be admonished to appoint people of judgment and impartiality to this commission. There should be a requirement that commissioners be at least forty years old and that they have knowledge about the forces that are driving tuition increases.
One of many problems with Sen. Bernie Sanders' idea of making federal taxpayers responsible for paying all college tuition is that it addresses none of the root problems that are driving increases in college tuition, which have nothing to do with faculty salaries. My proposal at least addresses the root causes of the huge increases in college tuition that have occurred during the last 34 years.
Putting federal taxpayers on the hook for paying for increases in university bureaucracies will only cause the problem to get worse. Universities and colleges would respond to such a federal subsidy by doubling the size of university bureaucracies, which would aggravate the underlying problem. Such a reaction would be more of a threat to academic freedom than would be the creation of an ICC-like federal regulatory commission.
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I’m not sure I’m understanding why repayment of some loans is “unfair” to those who never borrowed (or who borrowed and already repaid those loans). I took out loans to cover some of my undergrad, some of my teaching credential, some for my Master’s work, and some for law school. I owed a good amount. (But not too much, as it was all at California public universities, and this was all before the spike in tuition.). So, I guess I’m one of the victims you are referring to, since I worked my ass off to pay off all my loans on my own.
In pretty much all govt decisions, there are winners and losers. So, to the extent that we give child credits to taxpayers who have children, then childless people are victims there, under the same logic. People who pay taxes to pay for police and fire departments are winners if they need those services, but victims if they do not. (Weak example, since even those victims are getting some peace of mind, I reckon.) But paying taxes for parks, when you never go to them? Victim. Paying taxes for schools and libraries, when you have no kids and you don’t read any more? Victim!
So, if the selective govt repayment of some people is unfair; it seems to me that it’s unfair merely in the same way that a hundred other ways the govt uses its funds is unfair to some of the people living in the country.
The problem here is that those other programs that benefit one constituency or another are the result of the political give and take of Congress. Farmers get subsidies because farm state members of Congress (esp Senators) trade their votes for subsidizing the military, inner city schools, or Social Security and Medicare. Etc. there is, to some extent a fixed sized pie to divvy up (ignoring the massive deficit spending of the last decade or so), so to some extent increasing farm subsidies requires reducing these other spending areas. It should be 100%, because that deficit spending is starting to come due. It was completely irresponsible, esp since it has been well know n in Economics for over a half century know that the Keynesian multiplier is less than 1, and in the case of the last 5 years or so, quite a bit less.
The problem with the Biden college debt cancellations is that they didn’t undergo and survive that Congressional horse trading. It was declared by a single person (or the cabal acting through him) to give some of his strongest supporters financial largess. It doesn’t have widespread public support, because it doesn’t benefit a large majority of the populace - those who paid off their student debt, those who didn’t incur such, and esp those who didn’t go to college. For the most part, it would benefit those who went to expensive colleges they couldn’t afford, for degrees that would never pay off. Going to a college that costs $50k, $100k, etc a year is a significant luxury. And getting graduate degrees in the humanities, most social sciences, and any of the “studies” areas even more so. It’s pure luxury, that the Biden WH expects the rest of us to pay for. The recipients could have gone to community colleges, and forgone Ivy League schools and unfounded graduate schools. They didn’t.
It's unfair because basically any instance of robbing Peter to pay Paul is unfair, and that's all it is. The federal government is only supposed to spend money for the general welfare, and this isn't the general welfare.
Benefits are given to specific people, and the costs imposed widely, which amounts to penalizing everybody else. So, in this case, you're penalizing the people who, responsibly, either didn't go into debt, or paid off their own damn debts. You're punishing doing the right thing, and rewarding doing the wrong thing, which would be a bad thing for government to be doing even if it had infinite wealth. Which it doesn't.
"So, if the selective govt repayment of some people is unfair; it seems to me that it’s unfair merely in the same way that a hundred other ways the govt uses its funds is unfair to some of the people living in the country."
This is true, today's government does a LOT of things that are fundamentally unfair or unwise. But that's hardly defending either adding another instance of unfairness, or doing so illegally.
There are a number of issues that make this "unfair"
1) As Bruce points out, the programs you described were enacted by democratic process. A law was passed by Congress (or the local government) and signed by the President. By contrast, the student loan fiat hasn't had any of that. Biden just decides "Hey, we're going to make it so people don't have to repay their loans". In a similar fashion, Biden could just say "Hey I'm gonna give myself a billion dollars". Would that be unfair?
2) There are often questions about how the government should spend its money. One of the aspects that many consider, when if something is fair (or unfair) is if it benefits the rich at the expense of the poor. Many people would say that a law that taxed those making under $50,000 a year at 50%, while those who made $200,000 a year were only taxed at 5% would be unfair. Even if it was passed via democratic process.
As those individuals with student loans tend to have educations that lead to higher paying jobs (Doctors, lawyers, graduate degrees, etc.) a general student loan relief program would be akin to this. One which gave a lot of money to people who were already getting a lot of money. Meanwhile, the professions which tend not to have high incomes, nor high educations (Fast food employee, house cleaner, factory worker) wouldn't get anything (or very little in comparison).
"But paying taxes for parks, when you never go to them?"
A more on point example: people use the parks and pay fees. Some pay in cash, some with debit cards, and some with credit cards. Of the ones who paid with credit cards, some pay off the balance and some carry the balance.
Later you say you will issue refunds only to those who are carrying a balance. The people who paid with cash, debit, or already paid their credit cards off are going to object.
"In pretty much all govt decisions, there are winners and losers"
That's somewhat true, but not comforting.
Suppose you institute some obviously random scheme: when you arrive at the park the ranger spins a wheel to determine the fee you pay. Saying there will always be winners and losers isn't going to make people feel that's fair. Ditto for issuing refunds based on whether people have already paid their balance.
To take your thesis further, why not just make taxes arbitrary? Instead of going through filling out a 1040, the IRS holds a lottery and sends you a letter with a randomly generated amount you owe this year. No problem, because all government decisions involve winners and losers?
That forms were signed agreeing to pay it all back means nothing?
The Feds should be out of it ENTIRELY and allow banks to make the choices on student loans with zero federal government backstop to protect them.
While I am sympathetic to this line of reasoning, student loans have a perk that most normal loans do not. There is a special rule that they can not be discharged through bankruptcy. Start by removing that perk and a lot of the loan problem will resolve itself.
I might go for removing the bankruptcy protection if someone who goes into bankruptcy cannot then claim whatever educational level they obtained. The main reason I see for educational loans being non-dischargable is that education "sticks" and therefore the debt should too.
Bankruptcy is not pain free either. Simple things such as purchasing a car or paying bills may become extremely difficult. If the education was purchased at a reasonable cost there is incentive not to take the bankruptcy option.
If we really wanted to make sure people paid their bills, society has other options. Some possible examples could be state bars refusing admittance to those who default on their debts. Advanced education could be refused to those who don't pay or technical publication could be refused. There are many creative options.
The bottom line is that student loans would have to be fundamentally rethought. The bank would need to ensure that to actually get its money the degree was of good value for the risk thus streamlining the services actually provided. A bank looking for return on investment isn't going to want to loan lots of cash earmarked for academic support and student services . All this is doing is raising the probability of default. This would at least provide some push back on the ballooning administrative costs.
Thinking about this, there's no reason to expect banks to have special competence in deciding if particular students are likely to succeed, or if particular majors are likely to result in income.
Probably the best match of competence and consequences would be to require the educational institutions themselves to be on the hook for non-performing educational loans.
Banks make loans to property companies, home purchasers, engineering companies, distribution businesses. They work out how much it is worth their while to lend, and at what rate, based on experience and arithmetic.
If banks have no special competence in deciding if particular students are likely to succeed, then it is because it has not been worth their while to develop such competence.
If there were no federal student loans, it would be worth the banks’ while to do so. And also worth their while to work out how to manage their risks. Also there may be other organisations who might wish to lend – eg employers offering student loans for their apprentices. And as you say the educationl institutions themelves might wish to get into that business. But it is not necessary that they do so.
Exactly this, and degrees through apprenticeship is another great example of how the system might adapt. Banks might not have the expertise in house, but if there is a monetary advantage to be had, they will find it.
True, education is an unsecured loan. It would be unseemly to hire a couple of goons with clubs to reposes one's learnings.
Even more awkward when the goons note that the degree was in a grievance studies program and leave you alone because there is nothing to reposes.
There is a special rule that they can not be discharged through bankruptcy. Start by removing that perk and a lot of the loan problem will resolve itself.
That requires two things:
1) The Federal Government, which took over student lending from the private sector via the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 gets out of the Student Lending business all together, and neither guarantees nor makes student loans in the future.
2) Once student lending is returned to the private sector, the loan can be properly underwritten (i.e. want to borrow $80K to major in STEM? ‘sure here it is, and the interest is 6%. want to borrow $80K to major in “grievance studies”? ‘Ok, the interest rate is 75%’ or better yet ‘No.’). and private lenders are indemnified against any and all ‘disparate impact’ lawsuits.
However, under the current regime, making loans dischargeable in bankruptcy is the same as “forgiveness” with the taxpayer footing the bill, albeit with the inconvenience that the borrower won’t be able to get a credit card for 7 years. That is until Sen. Warren and her ilk decide that the consequence of bankruptcy due to student loan debt is far too high to bear and needs to be wiped clean of credit reports and other public records.
Edit to Item #2: If the private lender wants to lend the $80K to major in "grievance studies" at an interest rate commensurate with the interest rate of STEM, it's none of my business and it should do so if it wants to take that level of risk.
Sensible thoughts. In the meantime, the GOP - if it ever gets into power again - could minimise the political problem of the Dems being politically motivated to do the waiver for votes scheme....
....by distributing its stock of student loans to the states on a per capita apportionment basis. Thus any student would find California owning about 11.5% of his or her loan, Utah about 1% and so on.
The effect should be that any state should be much less incentivised to waive student debt than the feds because :
1. the state would be waiving much more debt of non state voters than state voters, making the waiver for vote scheme very inefficient and
2. states can't print their way out of bankruptcy, so the waivers would actually cost them
Even if all the Dem states clubbed together to do a grand waiver, it would only waive about half the total debt, costing the Dem-run states $100 for each $50 benefit to their voters. There are surely more efficient voter bribing prospects available than that.
Doing that would probably make loans unaffordable for many.
Consider a student who goes to Harvard and, upon graduation, starts an MBA program. He has no income, no assets. Under normal bankruptcy law he can declare bankruptcy, discharge most of his debts, and then start free and clear with a 300K per year job in PE or at a hedge fund two years later when he gets his MBA.
This is obviously unfair and means students who are not on this kind of trajectory will not be able to get loans to go to Harvard.
Making loans that won't produce income proportionate to the cost of the education they're loaned to pay for unaffordable is kind of the point, isn't it?
“Doing that would probably make loans unaffordable for many.”
Loans should be unaffordable for many. Deciding to go to collage to make a fashion statement and because it is what everyone else is doing is fundamentally stupid, especially when you are tying years of your future earning to it. A collage degree is like any other large investment and should be made with some care.
In the end, some dude spending a 100K on a gender studies or sociology degree simply is bad for society as well as a poor investment. If we stop subsidising this silliness much of it will go away because it is such a stupid choice that the market itself will shut it down.
"But paying taxes for parks, when you never go to them? Victim. Paying taxes for schools and libraries, when you have no kids and you don’t read any more? Victim!"
Usually, we decide through the political process that things like parks and schools have positive externalities that we want to subsidize, and even if not everyone benefits from every program, the political processes pretends that the programs add value.
But what's the benefit of subsidizing sunk educational costs, especially compared to the benefit of subsidizing sunk non-educational costs?
The forgiveness programs are a naked transfer of wealth from one set of taxpayers to another.
"In pretty much all govt decisions, there are winners and losers."
Sure, but if you can't show a net gain, you should reconsider your decision.
The difference between the student loan situation and your other examples is that the people who took the loans did so voluntarily, promising to repay them.
I think Calabresi is a little out of touch:
"It is certainly true that college tuition, which costs more than $100,000 a year, is unaffordable by 99% of the American people. I am acutely aware of this, having paid for my four children's college tuition myself. Should taxpayers play a role in financing a college education? This is an important public policy question, which will certainly come up in the next two years."
I have one child that graduated in the last 2 years (2022) from a good state school in a small-medium sized town in Washington. His total assets were a 20k college education fund, and 12,500 a year in parental contributions, and he worked 3 summers, but not during the school year. He also racked up 7500 in student loans. He also still had 5k in savings when he graduated (I advised him to take out student loans his senior year so he would have a cushion when he graduated).
He's working now making about 80k, after a year in his job.
400k in college tuition is how the other half lives, but you don't have to pay that much to ruin your kids, you can get by much cheaper that that.
I bought my first new car last year, since before my daughter was born. But she graduated (Summa cum Laude) from a decently expensive small liberal arts college debt free. It was paid for by an academic scholarship and my forgoing a lot of luxuries. And came out of her PhD program not only debt free, but with half her car paid off. It was fully funded, which meant that 4 of 5 years she worked as an RA (Research Assistant) instead of a TA (Teaching Assistant), funded by research grant money brought into the University by her advisor. She got tuition and a stipend every year that covered room, board, and some limited extras. But her PhD wasn’t in Art History, English Lit, or Women’s Studies. Those areas don’t receive much in outside research money, and can only support a limited number of TAs, limited by the undergrads enrolled in those programs. It was in engineering, which is why her college could afford a bunch of RA grad students.
In any case, she is well set, though with no financial assistance from the government. We did it the hard way. A good friend has a son well along in a PhD program in Art History, well funded by student loans. He may be able to ultimately pay off his student loans, because of his unique situation. Maybe. But most have little chance to do so. The bulk of graduating PhDs in non-STEM areas will likely never get tenure teaching. Rather, if they pursue an academic career, it will be as non-tenure-track employees making little more than minimum wage, and often with less job protection than those outside academia. And make no mistake - the big college debts are for grad school. Sometimes it is financially justified (e.g. med school). Often it is not. If society is unwilling to pay for those graduate degrees voluntarily, then they are luxuries, that those very many who more prudent are ultimately expected to pay for.
Hi Kaz,
I think you can do this, but you get into some interesting self-selection mechanisms that can ultimately be undesirable.
Let's take your example. You're a student. You can go to "Ivy State" at $100,000 a year or "Local State" at $20,000 a year. Now, if you're extremely well off, or not concerned at massive loans, you go to Ivy State. If you're financially conservative or on the poorer end of the spectrum you go to Local State. For 90% of people going to Local State, this works out fine.
But for the other 10%, let's say they want to go on in their education. They're competing against the 10% - 30% from Ivy State who want the same. And when looking at applications, Law Schools and Graduate Schools...given similar GPAs and MCAT/LSAT scores, will more often than not pick Ivy State grads. It's "a better school" (There's also a second cut here between "Ivy -Law" and "Local - Law" ) This pushes onto judge clerkships and initial positions in government. And again, a decision point between "Ivy - Law" and "Local Law" is made.
What ends up happening here is a preference where two types of people are selected for in running the government.
1) Those who are already rich enough to afford the expensive schools.
2) Those who are willing to take on massive debts
By contrast, two types of people are selected against in running the government
1) Those from poorer backgrounds
2) Those who are financially conservative in the first place (and chose to go to the cheaper school).
But ultimately the "financially conservative" decision may be the bad one...because then the financial conservatives aren't running the country...
10% of students go to Harvard Law?
In reality, "the data shows" no measurable difference in outcome between those who attend Harvard, and those who were accepted by Harvard but did not attend.
Many of the top 20 universities are public. There is no objective reason to spend $100k on Harvard versus $20k on Michigan.
The rules are different if you are of the Harvard social circle, but then you're not getting tuition advice on Reason.
"By contrast, two types of people are selected against in running the government
1) Those from poorer backgrounds
2) Those who are financially conservative in the first place (and chose to go to the cheaper school)"
Ironically it our likely next vice president who came from a shit poor background, went to a state school, then an Ivy based on having done well at a state school. Upward mobility may be hard, but not impossible. Few of our presidents have been from great wealth (Trump), or aristocracy (Kennedy).
I also wasn’t aware that more than a handful of schools have a total bill over $100,000. I just checked and Harvard’s list price is about $83,000. Very few students actually pay that. Harvard is very proud that the majority of their undergraduates get reduced tuition, some even paying nothing. The other Ivy’s we visited when my kids were looking at colleges were the same.
Professional grad school (e.g. law and medicine) are almost certainly different. I have no idea what the numbers are but wouldn’t be surprised if they are in the $100k range per year. That said, my aforementioned kids are in STEM PhD programs where they get paid by the school rather than the other way around.
I think student loan relief might be a fair idea but the money for it should come out of the wallets of those who contributed to the crisis. Namely the profligate and predatory schools. They shouldn’t be allowed to get away with or continue to be propped up after the crisis they had a large hand it.
This is the only way I would consider it. Everything else is immoral.
Yes. This should be funded by the school endowments. Let the borrowers declare bankruptcy.
1: is the forgiven loan considered income? Then income taxes are owed, somehow I’m guessing not a cent has been paid. 2: Student Loans are bullshit to start with, I borrowed $10,000 in 1987, bought a Motorcycle, a new(er) car, 27″ Sony Trinitron, 4 Head VCR, moved to a nicer apartment, Oh, and I might have bought a textbook or 2 (might have, I didn’t, I was that guy who took someone elses to the hospital library and copied all 1,000 pages of Sabiston’s Surgery text) did have to pay 1 Semester Tuition, some $2,500 Low Interest, which was deferred for Internship, several years of Military Service, paid it off in one lump sum in 1993 when the deferments ran out.
And that was back when $10,000 was real money ($27,000 2024 dollars)
But hey, if you paid taxes in 1987, thanks for the Motorcycle (Suzuki GSXR750, how I didn’t kill myself on it is a minor miracle)
Only reason I needed the loan was my Uncle Sammy said he was only paying for 4 years of Med School, not 5, I was ahead of my time with the whole "Gap Year" thang, paid for the first extra semester myself, but ran out of things to pawn, and found out about NDSL's which are totally different than "DSL"s
Frank
The dissent in Biden v. Nebraska explained the statutory legitimacy of President Biden’s action. He then went another way, which also was defended with statutory hooks.
The first comment addresses the “fairness” issue.
A reply challenges the “support” but from what I can see it is rather popular. Critics generally cite it as some cynical political move partly for that reason. As to “horse trading,” the statutory hook was passed by the run-of-the-mill congressional give and take.
As to Sanders’s solution, which allegedly does not address the “real cause,” if the bill ever has a chance of passing, it can factor in such things. I leave it to others to debate the merits of the argument.
As to the proposal, it is good to talk about various options.
Why not just cut all the federal funding? The tuition will go down, then later provide federal funds when the tuition is no higher then that amount.
You don't realize the extent of federal funding and how deep it goes into communities.
That's why people - and therefore politicians - keep voting for the programs.
Example: The Dept. of Transportation has a Small Community Air Service Development Program (SCASDP), a grant program designed to help small communities address air service and airfare issues including revenue guarantees, financial assistance for marketing programs, start-up costs and studies.
The rural communities who recently received this funding were:
Monterey, CA; Dubuque, IA; Idaho Falls, ID; Peoria, IL; Springfield, IL; South Bend, IN; Ft. Wayne, IN; Monroe, LA; Traverse City, MI; Gulfport/Biloxi, MS; Billings, MT; Fargo, ND; Ithaca, NY; Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, PA; Chattanooga, TN; Tri-Cities (Blountville), TN; Del Rio, TX; Lynchburg, VA; Richmond, VA; and Yakima, WA
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/2024-02/FINAL.FY2022%20SCASDP%20Selection%20Order9.28.23.pdf
Lotta red states there.
And there are hundreds of federal programs like this.
Real money going to real people.
Oh, I realize. I just don't care. I understand that it might not be politically viable to just end the funding, even for a short period of time, but that may still be the right thing to do.
Heck, even look at (deep red) Prof. Calabresi's discussion above!
"Should taxpayers play a role in financing a college education?"
Devin's and шинка's responses: NO! Defund everything.
Prof. Calabresi's response: "This is an important public policy question, which will certainly come up in the next two years."
HA! When it comes to your own pockets then I WANT MY MONEY!!!!
apedad,
That is a fake analysis. Let's look in detail.
1) To be sure the $100,000 tuition is for almost all places a fake. The total cost per year is pretty close to $80K to $100K for most private schools. For state universities drop that range by $30K. That remains a lot of money.
2) Calabresi's proposal will not address the reason for tuition increases beyond the inflation rate. The increases are driven by the growth in administrative positions to satisfy federally mandated compliance and to implement both mandated and voluntary
social policies. These cost drivers will be untouched by Calabresi's proposal.
3) Finally, Biden (and Sanders) proposal is a transfer from those (lower paid) people who do not attend college to those who do. To reduce that fact to "I WANT MY MONEY" is simply insulting for those who are and remain in the working class.
???
I was pointing out that Prof. Calebrisi is a conservative who is solidly on the right side of issues - EXCEPT - this one since it involves his pocket.
So you have discovered that many humans, perhaps most, are more attached to their pockets than their principles.
Word to the wise - this is not a new thought. Adam Smith was there before you :
“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest.
Which is part of his powerful argument for laissez-faire. If we steel ourselves to resist demands, pleas, insistences and whines that this or that 'special case" should be allowed to dip its paw into public funds, then self interest will generally deliver our dinner. Or college degree.
In the context of college education the problem is that universities have far too much money to waste on crap (ie bloated admin) and far too many students are enrolled to study crap (ie stuff that will never earn them a payback.) Federal student loans are the feeder of this administrative bloat and the lack of discrimination by students about their expected payback.
Calabresi's pocket interest blinds him to the obvious solution. Leave it to the market.
"2) Calabresi’s proposal will not address the reason for tuition increases beyond the inflation rate. The increases are driven by the growth in administrative positions to satisfy federally mandated compliance and to implement both mandated and voluntary
social policies."
No small part of it is that subsidized loans made college students insensitive to price. When I went to college there was still a lot of truth to the stereotype of the poor college student, our housing on or off campus was dense and low quality, and we ate cheaply and literally did darn our socks.
By about 2010, I visited a niece at college, and her dorm suite was nicer than anything I'd lived in before I was middle aged.
She wasn't scrimping to save every possible dollar, because the loans made the education seem almost free.
Just for the record, the "small community" of Richmond, Virginia (the state capitol) is 1.34 million people.
And Springfield is the capital of Illinois -- apparently the state cannot otherwise afford an airport for its own capital city. It's also odd to call cities with 250k+ people, like South Bend and Ft. Wayne, "rural".
"Real money going to real people."
Having spent much of 1985-2015 (which encompasses much of the period of tuition inflating much faster than the CPI) working in the admin side of a university, my take is that the increase was mostly absorbed in administrative bloat. Student loans subsidize university admins, not students, IMHE.
“That’s why people – and therefore politicians – keep voting for the programs.”
Sure, people love the programs, but don’t like the taxes, so they vote for the programs, and against the taxes.
And it’s impossible to measure the tradeoffs.
"Real money going to real people."
And coming from real people.
The government is not designed to provide goods and services. As such, it consistently does an abhorrent job when it attempts to.
Why should governments get out of the goods and services industry? Because governments are not designed to change with dynamic market forces, so nearly immediately, the government's initial offerings are stagnant and obsolete.
Governments pouring money into favorite initiatives always fails. More money in a market, the more expensive and lower quality offerings become (see college). So it's bad Econ 101 to have the government subsidize anything.
Students change, the government does not. This year's 3rd graders will not be like next year's third graders and they were nothing like last year's 3rd graders. Like markets, student bodies change every year. Classrooms and curriculum needs to be dynamic to readily adapt to these changes in cohorts.
Why anyone thinks the government should have any hand in providing goods and services or subsidizing markets is just a completely stupid idea. Thinking it will work is broken thinking.
The federal and state governments have effectively already taken over the higher education loan business. The result has been a massive increase in indebtedness, and a corresponding explosion in the price of higher ed.
I hardly think the answer to higher ed price inflation is to make loan repayments optional! Exactly the opposite is going to happen. Prices are going to double or treble.
And, no, I don't expect regulation to be able to contain such an explosion of essentially free money. Sure, an institution's prices may be limited to the rate of inflation, but the obvious workaround is to start multiple, new institutions. And if that doesn't work, the private sector will find another way.
The government just needs to get out of the loan business altogether. The private sector will make short work of the overcharging. The low quality/high cost institutions will be culled practically overnight once borrowers have to go through normal financial institutions.
A quick web search reveals that not all universities cost $100K/year:
Total Cost of Attendance. The University of Maryland in-state tuition in 2022-23 was $11,233, and out-of-state tuition at the University of Maryland was $39,469. UMD tuition is higher than the national averages for tuition at public universities of $10,940 (in-state) and $28,240 (out-of-state).
Northwestern: Tuition for the 2023–24 academic year is $64,887. Total expenses (including fees, books, room and board, transportation expenses and transportation) are estimated at $91,290.
Been a long time since I checked, but at one point U. Mass and U. Maryland Med Schools were tougher to get into than Hah-vud or Johns Hopkins, primarily because of the lower tuition (and like Pro Sports nobody really cares where you went to College/Med School as long as you can perform (i.e. "Earn")
Frank
A quick google search reveals that ZERO colleges cost $100k a year, especially if you just include tuition, as Calabresi claims to be doing. (Personally, I think including room & board is stupid anyway, because if you weren't going to college, buying food and living somewhere would still cost you money.)
"If you weren't going to college, buying food and living somewhere would still cost you money"
*laughs in military*
And you get that great Camp Lejeune water!
"I regrettably see no way of addressing the roots of this problem except by creating a new federal regulatory commission . . . "
STOP!
Just stop right there!
Whatever replaces the elipsis is wrong and immoral.
You need to open your eyes so that you can see the evil.
The best, fairest, and fastest way to lower tuition costs is to eliminate Federal student loan guarantees.
I see several issues here:
1. Average full cost of attendance at the overwhelming majority of colleges and universities is nowhere near $100,000 yr. Implying that college is unaffordable because 99% can’t afford the .1% of the most expensive seats is like saying we need mortgage debt relief because mansions in Beverly Hills are unaffordable to 99%.
2. Salaries have stagnated, but compensation costs have not. All those benefits aren’t free. On top of this, faculty (especially at Research Universities) have seen teaching loads decline as research expectations have increased. Research is extremely expensive for universities to do - federal f&a rates come nowhere near the cost of covering the real overhead. For STEM fields, the costs hover around about $3 for every grant dollar spent.
3. “Administrators” don’t set tuition. The process varies among institutions, but boards ultimately set the rates. At many publics, tuition is capped by their legislature. Rather than raise tuition, other schools impose fees proposed and justified by academic departments. Some of these proposed fees include “differential tuition” voted on a particular college’s faculty.
4. “administrative bloat” or “bureaucracy” are the academic equivalent of “waste, fraud, and abuse” at the federal level. In other words, people think there is this magic bullet that would get rid of only unpopular thing without sacrificing popular stuff to save a lot of money. The biggest cost is the faculty, followed by facilities. Cut back on lab research, raise standard teaching loads from 1-1 to 4-4, place minimum caps on classes, and drop non-profitable PhD programs.
Of course we have schools that do that, but people aren’t exactly beating down the doors to get into such places. Public, regional, comprehensive schools can be quite affordable though. Georgia Southern is about $6500/yr for residents. Georgia State in the big city is something like $7500 or so if memory serves. So let’s call it 7% of the cost you cite. I would be surprised if the majority of states didn’t have a region public with tuition below 10k/yr. Even with their administrative bloat.
"“administrative bloat” or “bureaucracy” are the academic equivalent of “waste, fraud, and abuse” at the federal level."
Certainly true, but not in the way you mean it. Why do people think that federal agencies are run perfectly? They're not. It would be nice to hear more ideas from politicians on how to eliminate waste fraud and abuse.
One good way politicians are moving is by strengthening Freedom of Information Acts (FOIA), at the fed and state levels.
This allows citizens (including media and social media "investigators"), to directly obtain info/data on programs and then make whatever complaints/petitions they feel are appropriate.
No, administrative bloat at colleges is not like fraud where you're just picking at the edges at not making a significant dent in costs. The number of administrators has absolutely exploded while the number of teaching faculty has risen only modestly. The two costs are nearly the same now, and don't need to be.
https://www.usnews.com/education/articles/one-culprit-in-rising-college-costs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulweinstein/2023/08/28/administrative-bloat-at-us-colleges-is-skyrocketing/
Your first link reports that administrative support has declined slightly as a percentage of total spending. (Private nonprofit: 30% in 2010 vs. 29.6% in 2021; Public: 23.7% in 2010 vs. 22.9% in 2021)
You second link looks at staffing levels rather than costs. Following the link they cite for their data, and dividing the total number of faculty and professional staff by the total number of administrative/executive staff, we find:
1976 6.02
2011 6.31
2018 6.50
So the number of administrative positions is decreasing relative to the total number of professional/faculty positions.
I don’t know what the cause of rising tuition is. If you ignore the hand waving in the articles you link and just look at the data, there doesn’t appear to be any particular reason to suspect that administrative bloat is the culprit.
"dividing the total number of faculty and professional staff by the total number of administrative/executive staff"
When you look at 'Table 1' the 1976-2018 headcount changes are:
students +78%
non-professional +0.19% (great productivity increase!)
faculty +92% (slightly outpacing students)
Executive/Administrative +164% (greatly outpacing students)
Other Professionals +452% (maybe we found the problem!)
Just FWIW, when I talk about 'administrative bloat', I'm including what I think that article is calling 'other professionals''other professionals' as part of that. For example, I was a computer nerd (titles like 'System Programmer', 'Software Engineer', yadda). In short, all the white collar folks who weren't faculty. And that was where the bloat was. And it wasn't that we hired a lot more bits-n-bytes software types who were cranking out code; we hired layers and sclerotic layers of various kinds of managers. It was common to go to meetings where there were two guys who were going to do the actual work and 4 or 5 times that many of various types from the multiple overlapping chains of command. We had people who 'managed'[2] a half dozen people who had a full time administrative assistant.
[1]We had layers of people who constantly formed task forces to revise job titles
[2]the scare quotes were because most of the layers of supervision really didn't know bupkis about computers, and so couldn't really provide any supervision.
Though I fully support the Federal Government getting completely out of the student loan business one other idea would be to limit assistance to those fields of study the bureau of Labor Statistics deems in need, particularly fields which are being filled by H1b candidates. There is a need for most STEM professionals. People with degrees in things that end in “Studies” not so much.
Bottom line is if you want to be a Civil Engineer, Neurosurgeon or better yet Rural, Native or underserved Urban General Practitioner, I might be willing to help give you a leg up. Want to study Lesbian Transgendered Dance? Do that on your own dime.
The easiest way to do that is just get rid of special rule student loans, and go back to them just being a normal subset of bank loans, with future income as collateral. Banks would quite naturally refuse to extend them for majors that didn't enhance earnings potential.
If you're going to be a Civil Engineer, you don't need student loan guarantees.
What! Pay for your own Ed-Jew-ma-Cation?
Well actually I only paid for 1 year of my 9 years Auburn/Evil Med School, that’s what Moms, ROTC, HPSP are for
Frank
" Bottom line is if you want to be a Civil Engineer, Neurosurgeon or better yet Rural, Native or underserved Urban General Practitioner, I might be willing to help give you a leg up. Want to study Lesbian Transgendered Dance? Do that on your own dime. "
How do you feel about educated, skilled, modern, successful people and communities (large cities and suburbs) subsidizing half-educated, economically inadequate, can't-keep-up, failing people and communities (small towns and rural backwaters)?
For example, should Allegheny County (Pittsburgh area) residents continue to subsidize -- with respect to transportation, social programs, internet service, police, airports, and dozens of other things the can't-keep-up communities can't afford without subsidizes from better communities -- the parasitic communities in Venango, Mercer, northern Butler, Lawrence, Mercer, Beaver, Clarion, Jefferson, Fayette, and Greene counties?
> I regrettably see no way of addressing the roots of this problem except by creating a new federal regulatory commission with the power to regulate any college tuition increase above the national rate of inflation.
Sounds like price controls.
Wait, a Calabresi post that isn't a breathless rant about Trump minutae? A Calabresi post that's actually... almost thoughtful?
I mean, sure, there's only a tiny sliver of colleges that actually cost $100k/year in tuition (drop a zero from that and we're closer to reality), and the cost of a train ticket from DC to NYC is nearly the same as a plane ticket despite requiring far less fuel and taking about twice as long (well, not counting TSA) so I really wouldn't put much faith in the American government's ability to keep costs down. And, fine, there's actually plenty of market forces in play for colleges (they're called "community colleges" and the price is anywhere from 10%-50% of the state university, depending on how one squeezes the numbers). But besides all THAT, Ms. Lincoln, I'm sure the play was great.
Tuition at many colleges is not over $100,000 per year. In-state tuition at the University of Washington is $12,643. Tuition at Elite and many private colleges may be over $100,000.
Between 1980 and 2024, M2 (a measure of US monetary mass) has increased by about 6.03% year on year. The price of a six pack of beer has increased by about 2.48% year on year. The price of a dozen eggs has increased by about 2.94% year on year. Public college tuition and fees has increased by about 6.39% year on year.
It used to be that when people had more money they bought more eggs, butter, meat etc. pushing up those prices. Now almost all of us we have almost all of the eggs, butter, meat etc. we need. So where does the extra money governments so assiduously print go?
At least some of it inflates select assets / goods like high end real estate and education. Education (especially high end) is a luxury good (it signals status) that attracts the excess monetary mass. A fancy university for one's child is about as high as a yacht or a small chateau in signaling social status potency, if not higher.
The bloated administration is more likely a result of the universities pricing power in a seller's market. What do administrators do with all that money (from tuition but also donations and endowment returns)? They hire more underlings since universities are feudal systems, and the size of one's budget (aka lands and peasantry and soldiers) determines their social status.
I think the best first step would be to eliminate federal guarantees for student loans, as others have suggested here; and, if we do that, it might also be well to make them dischargeable through bankruptcy.
Since loans are guaranteed, today's lenders have no incentive to consider the likelihood that the borrower will be able to repay them. Thus the borrower won't distinguish between the student who's majoring in Chemical Engineering and the one who's in Ancient Sumerian Literature, even though the former is likely to wind up with a six-figure income and the latter to end up as a barista.
Eliminate the loan guarantees, and lenders will have to take that sort of thing into account. And that will benefit the students, since the availability or unavailability of loans will give them useful information when they're choosing their careers—much more useful than "follow your passions".
Eliminating loan guarantees means that fewer people will be able to afford college. But this in turn will tend to bring the cost of education down. I suspect that the price elasticity of supply for college seats is low: the marginal cost of admitting an additional student is small compared to fixed costs like administration, staffing, maintenance and repairs to the physical plant, etc. Thus schools have a strong incentive to fill as many of their seats as they can, and if enrollment drops, will lower prices in order to top it up again.
Eliminating loan guarantees would benefit the student, the taxpayer, and society in general, the last by directing more people into more remunerative careers than they'd choose under the current system. It would lead to tuition decreases through the action of market forces rather than by regulatory fiat of the sort that Calabresi proposes—regulatory fiat that would be subject to all manner of political pressure applied by special-interest groups.
One could easily fit the idea into the contours of the Spending Clause. As with contractors of various other kinds, Congress can say that the US will only spend money on educational institutions that do certain things or meet certain conditions designed to ensure government money is spent in a cost-effective way. That way, it becomes a normal Spending Clause contract-with-conditions situation, not a roving-government-pricing-commission situation.
A Spending Clause voluntary contract is qualitatively different from mandatory regulation. Institutions that want to charge more or do things the government considers not cost-effective can always refuse the government money and charge and do whatever they want, just as many doctors refuse Medicaire and Medicaid because they don’t want to meet its conditions and obligations.
One could even say that in giving out education money more or less unconditionally in this regard, trusting educational institutions to do what’s best, the federal government was overly, and perhaps foolishly, generous and trusting.
There’s been a huge problem of for-profit universities operating at (or beyond) the borders of fraud, existing for the purpose of sucking in as much government education money as possible, and providing as little education as legally possible (if that) to avoid spending more than they absolutely have to.
I honestly think that the rise of for-profit universities providing little or no education but causing young people to get into massive debt in exchange for little or nothing has done as much to contribute to the educational debt crisis as the rise of administrative beaurocracies among legitimate universities.
This fits within a very narrow and traditional understanding of the Spending Clause. Unlike some cases where government attaches a grab bag of politically-based conditions that have nothing to do with the money spent or what the government is getting for it, the conditions here would be very closely connected to the money spent and the value of what is purchased for the expenditure.
There is a solution other than government overview of tuition. Get the government out of the student loan business. As long as the government is the guarantor, there is no incentive for the university to control costs. Let the university be the issuer of loans. It would be a game changer in more ways than one.
This 100% misses the root cause of post WW2-tuition increases. Rising adminstrative bureaucracies are not the root cause - they are a symptom. Or if you like, you could consider them an intermediate cause.
The root cause of ever-rising tuitions is the student loan program itself. That is what took advanced education "off the market" and broke the connection between cost and value. Those administrative bureaucracies are merely where they dump the money.
Why not start by doing away with federally subsidized student loans?
If such a commission is to be created, I would make two points about the qualifications for its members. Firstly, requiring that they be over 40 seems exactly wrong to me. This is a place where having younger people, who have more recently experienced college, would be valuable. Secondly, there should be a requirement that no to members of the commission have attended the same university.
I mean, as noted above, the primary issue is federal money for college education in the first place. It’s hugely inflationary (on schooling costs), because it disconnects student means to pay from any cost-benefit analysis conducted by the prospective student, and allows colleges to jack prices up. Meanwhile, federal money comes with federal red tape -> more bureaucracy to do the red tape, so the increased tuition goes to bullshit instead of anything useful.
Second, we probably already have too many people going to college. Many of them will get jobs that didn’t need a college degree in the first place. If the government just pays for it outright, it’ll encourage more people to go to college who don’t belong there and don’t need to be there. It’s basically government-funded childcare for another 4 years, of people who are old enough they shouldn’t need childcare. Meanwhile, we can’t get enough welders.
Government money has already distorted the labor supply in destructive ways. More government money will only make it worse.
The only real solution is to eliminate government college loans entirely. You want a loan, convince a bank you’re good for it. Or convince the college or some private party you deserve a scholarship. (Harvard could literally not charge tuition and be fine, financially. And then they could fire most of the bureaucrats, too).
Education-disdaining, right-wing write-offs are among my favorite culture war casualties.
Open wider, clingers.
The last thing America needs to do is regulate the price of a college education. Better, get federal and state governments out of the busness of subsidizing post-secondary education.(not to mention other governemnt subsidies that drive up the national debt.
Is that worse than subsidizing uneducated, bigoted, superstitious, worthless, economically shambling, and parasitic Republican, rural, conservative, and southern communities?
I hope the people responsible for ensuring the quality of education offered to Northwestern students are making an exception from their customary habits to read this white, male, right-wing blog.
Perhaps the people involved in the recent UCLA faculty improvement project could share some insights with their peers at Northwestern.