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Reflections on Juneteenth
Juneteenth celebrates a great American achievement, and a triumph for the nation's Founding principles. Also, the culture war over the holiday is lame, and hopefuly coming to an end.

Today is Juneteenth, the holiday commemorating the abolition of slavery in 1865—established as an official federal holiday in 2021. In 2021 and 2023, I wrote posts on the meaning of Juneteenth, and why culture war-driven attacks on it are lame, and should stop (they seem less common this year). Most of the points made then remain relevant, and I reprint them in this post with some modifications and additions:
Juneteenth commemorates the abolition of slavery in 1865. Some conservatives who opposed its establishment as a national holiday argued it might somehow detract from Independence Day on July 4, or promote left-wing identity politics. For their part, some on the left may view it as a condemnation of America's history of slavery and racism, or even a celebration of black nationalism.
In reality, however, the abolition of slavery was the greatest achievement of the universal principles underlying the American Revolution, and a rebuke to ethnic nationalism and separatism. Slavery was America's worst injustice, and its abolition is obviously worthy of celebration.
Abolition was only achieved thanks to a multiracial movement that emphasized the universality of the right to liberty, and the moral arbitrariness of distinctions based on race.

It is no accident that the antislavery movement was also accompanied by what historian Kate Masur calls "America's First Civil Rights Movement," which sought equal rights for blacks that went beyond simply abolishing slavery.
As Masur and other scholars have documented, both black and white abolitionists routinely cited the universalist principles of the Founding in making the case for abolition and racial equality, even as many of them also criticized the Founders (and later generations of white Americans) for their hypocritical failure to fully live up to their own principles. From early on, critics of the American Revolution denounced the contradiction between its professed ideals and the reality of widespread slavery. "How is it," Samuel Johnson famously wrote, "that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?"
While the hypocrisy and contradictions were very real, so too is the fact that Revolution and Founding made abolition possible, in part by giving a boost to universalistic Enlightenment liberalism on both sides of the Atlantic. Among other things, the Revolution inspired the First Emancipation in the US (the abolition of slavery in the North that became the first large-scale emancipation of slaves in modern history). Without the First Emancipation, we could not have achieved the second and greater one.
For all their failings, the Revolution and Founding paved the way for abolition. That happened in large part because they were the first large-scale effort to establish a polity based on universal liberal principles rather than ties of race, ethnicity, or culture.
Those principles are at the root of most of America's achievements, of which the abolition of slavery was among the most important. They are also what enabled America, at its best, to offer freedom and opportunity to people from a wide range of racial and ethnic backgrounds from all over the world.
While right-wing critics fear that Juneteenth is somehow anti-American, some more left-wing commentators emphasize that slavery was not fully abolished on June 19, 1865, which was merely the date when Union troops reached Galveston, Texas, and announced the implementation of the Emancipation Proclamation in one of the last parts of the former Confederacy where it had not yet been implemented. Slavery was not legally banned throughout the United States until the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment in December 1865, and some slaveowners continued to resist emancipation even after that point.
But the Juneteenth holiday is nonetheless meant to commemorate the end of slavery as a whole, and that is in fact how it has been understood for many decades, long before it became a federal holiday. June 19 is the traditional date for commemoration of abolition, even if it is not the anniversary of the day on which the last vestiges of slavery were actually banned. Similarly, we celebrate Independence Day on July 4, even though July 2, 1776 was the date when the Continental Congress actually voted for independence, and independence was not fully achieved until the Treaty of Paris ended the Revolutionary War in 1783. Until that latter date, large parts of the US remained under British control.
Ultimately, the holiday commemorates a great achievement, even if that achievement was not fully completed on any one day, and in some ways remains incomplete even now. The struggle for freedom is ongoing, and never fully won. But there can still be great milestones along the way, of which the abolition of slavery was likely the most important.
Abraham Lincoln, the president who issued the Emancipation Proclamation whose belated enforcement Juneteenth celebrates, put it best in his famous speech on the Declaration of Independence and its implications for slavery:
I think the authors of that notable instrument intended to include all men, but they did not mean to declare all men equal in all respects…. They did not mean to assert the obvious untruth, that all were then actually enjoying that equality, or yet, that they were about to confer it immediately upon them…
They meant simply to declare the right, so that the enforcement of it might follow as fast as circumstances should permit.
They meant to set up a standard maxim for free society which should be familiar to all: constantly looked to, constantly labored for, and even, though never perfectly attained, constantly approximated, and thereby constantly spreading and deepening its influence and augmenting the happiness and value of life to all people, of all colors, every where.
The success of the antislavery movement's appeal to liberal universalism has been a model for later expansions of freedom, as well - including equal rights for women, the Civil Rights Movement of the twentieth century, and the struggle for same-sex marriage. It is a model that advocates of migration rights would do well to emulate today.
The work of fully living up to the ideals of the Founding wasn't completed in Lincoln's time, and it remains seriously incomplete even now. But Juneteenth commemorates perhaps our greatest step in the right direction. And it reminds us that further progress towards liberty and equal rights depends on applying the same principles that made abolition possible.
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Other than government employees does anyone have the day off?
Why isn't it celebrated on a Monday like other holidays are?
"Other than government employees, does anyone have the day off?"
banks, office workers at large companies [except their retail outlets of course], non-profits
large law and other professional firms afraid of being mau maued by activists
Same reason July 4th isn't?
Then why does NJ celebrate it on June 21 (Friday) this year?
It is a patronizing bullshit "holiday" and of course we all know from the progressive left that blacks still aren't free.
(Is your firm closed?)
" It is a patronizing bullshit “holiday” "
So . . . same as Christmas?
Obviously in your mind.
Christmas has become great . . . Santa, trees, gifts, reunions, reindeer, turkey, day off, etc. . . . but no reason Juneteenth can't get there, too.
From a historical perspective, Christmas may be less substantial (and accurate) than Juneteenth.
As religion continues to fade, Juneteenth -- a summer holiday -- may be the better bet over time.
Junteenth, by its own definition, doesn’t know the exact date…if there even is a meaningful exact date as being freed in practice depended on snail info and troop movements.
So it is like Christmas, which is Jesus’ birth anniversary, not his birth day. People often did not know their birthday back in the day, due to lousy records and most people not even knowing a calendar. So they picked a day, which became their birth anniversary.
Early church leaders wanted such a day, and not knowing it, set it up to compete with innumerable winter solstice religious holidays.
Even within Christian lore itself, Christmas is not Jesus’ birthday. It’s his birth anniversary.
So . . . bullshit atop bullshit.
Sounds legit.
Leave it to the huckleberries to complain about… a day off of work. I mean, seriously— of all the things to be bitchin about— a day off in June? Do you hate puppies too? You change your name to Mr Grumble
In the universe pf those with jobs, who has the day off? Do you?
Courts are closed today in my jurisdiction
...and your law firm is closed and any employees have the day off?
Have you given any thought to your apparently compulsive need to oppose anything coded as “liberal” to such a degree that you are actually complaining about hardworking Americans getting a day off in June?
I mean— just take a step back here for a sec. It’s a day off! Who cares?!?!? That you are so worked up about this might strike me at least as a moment for some self-reflection…? In a similar way that perhaps we could all reflect on the American experiment and its wrong turns over the years on the occasion of Juneteenth? Or is it low-T RINO talk just to be thinking on such things?
Very few people got a day off (government employees excepted) and very few people care about Juneteenth (or even know what it celebrates.
Glad you enjoyed your day off.
You seem to have spent the day of sniping at commenters and complaining that Juneteenth is so black.
So I figure you enjoyed your day as well.
“what it celebrates”
What do you think it celebrates? How do you feel about it?
You sure you didn't have it off? You've commented all over this thread asking people if they had the day off, but it looks like you spend most your day trolling here. Maybe touch some grass, it'll do you good.
As shiftless as the white population in this country is, you'd think they'd welcome another day to lay around
I spent the day at the beach, sitting not laying. 😉
It was certainly welcome. Nice to have a casual day with my wife, with no cares or responsibilities beyond what we were going to eat. That doesn't happen enough, sadly.
As for the holiday itself. I celebrate Pesach, also a festival of liberation. At my Seder table, we sing 'Go down, Moses' (with a Spotify assist during the pandemic). An odd connection to Juneteenth, perhaps. It was a meaningful connection for me, to relate the two holidays. I will need to think about a meaningful way to commemorate this holiday, with a formal holiday meal (each item must have meaning, and must be native to the USA).
It is good to be free, hobie. Even more important is liberty, the absence of restraint. I hope we do not lose more of our liberty.
The holiday did not go to waste; it was not just indolent leisure.
Enjoy your holidays. I wish we could let the blacks enjoy theirs without all these castigations above and below. Of course this statement of yours merits some thought:
"It is good to be free, hobie. Even more important is liberty, the absence of restraint. I hope we do not lose more of our liberty."
What liberties have you and I lost exactly?
Do you remember being called essential, and non-essential, just a few short years ago? With that arbitrary distinction, American society was upended. I saw that with my own eyes here in NJ. Small businesses were crushed. How many black-owned small businesses (a heck of a lot of them run by women, btw) were shut down because they were called: non-essential. Those small black-owned businesses were sure in hell essential for the owners.
When government (state, Federal) made that arbitrary distinction, essential vs non-essential, we lost a huge amount of liberty, hobie. We should not give that liberty up so easily; we won't get it back.
Next Seder, include this as you sing.
It was a magnificent rendition. Thx for that.
My firm consists of me and my partner, and we work or not work as we feel like, as we do on every other day. Courts are closed so it's a light day for us anyway.
Give your employees the day off?
Not clear which part of "My firm consists of me and my partner" confused you.
Only Federal Courts are closed (NJ celebrates the holiday on Friday; better to give the government employees a three day holiday)
No Secretaries? You prepare everything yourself?
We're a NY firm, not a NJ firm, and NY celebrates it on the 19th.
We're also a paperless office, so there's not much we would need secretaries for. We have some remote independent contractors who do various administrative work for us, and — as independent contractors do — they set their own schedules.
So you have no in house employees? (Just trying to be clear)
Christmas floats, Thanksgiving is always on a Thursday, not a Friday or Monday.
Prior to : The Uniform Monday Holiday Act (Pub. L.Tooltip Public Law (United States) 90–363, 82 Stat. 250, enacted June 28, 1968) is an Act of Congress that moved permanently to a Monday two federal holidays - Washington's Birthday and Memorial Day; with the exception of Thanksgiving all other holidays were celebrated on the date they were meant to commemorate.
People in my Cleveland hood are gearing up big time for it. Because you are a racist you don't see the point of it. But it's a big deal for the black folk. Crack that Bible of yours. Peoples freed from bondage is kinda a big thing to memorialize
When will we be reading about how many people were shot during the celebration?
And you were worried that that the holiday was patronising, when you meant something else entirely.
Wow...didn't take you long to reach into the shallow racism box.
If nothing else, this is a revealing holiday.
Revealing what? That democrats like racial politics? They also liked slavery, probably still do.
Yet it's not Democrats being Scrooge McRacists about it.
What plantation did he own in the democrat south?
Grinchville.
Nice to see that you’re enjoying your government employee day off by the lack of shitposting you usually do (normally on employer’s dime).
Believe it or not I'm not paid by the hour.
I thought you were paid by the comment and your government paycheck was a bonus.
These guys must hope if they keep this up long enough former professor Volokh will stop by to add a racial slur or two to the mix.
So when are they going to pay us for freeing them?
Hmm? Why? Because the whole holiday is political panderng by the democrats? That would be the party that gave us slavery. And Jim Crow.
Slavery and Jim Crow were pandering to whites. Pandering to black people? One day to celebrate the end of slavery. Honestly seems like an imbalance.
Because it’s not a “real” Holiday
The stock market is closed. The WSJ isn't published. I personally spent the day more or less in bed, having no particular reason to exist given those facts.
Veteran’s Day?
ETA: Or Independence Day?
The idea that it needs to be on a Monday to be a real holiday is belied by several days - particularly ones associated with specific calendar dates like this one.
I sense Prof. Somin is dabbling in lathering this blog's target audience, although not nearly as frequently as Mr. Volokh does so, and from a far different perspective.
And cue troll to troll.
The comments vindicate my position, not yours.
Which was not a tough call for anyone familiar with this white, male, disaffected, bigot-ridden, right-wing blog.
I particularly enjoy his "white-splaining" for all of us.
Of course this dipshit would write this.
Does the Nazi child have any specific objections to Professor Somin's post?
No, just giving in to the urge of the commentariat here generally to say the stupidest possible things that come to mind.
I do -- the idiot is WRONG.
First and foremost, you'd think that a purported law professor who preaches the 5th Amendment would know that the Emancipation Proclamation (EP) was a violation of the taking clause and hence that is why the 4th section of the 14th Amendment was necessary.
Lincoln knew this and that is why he BOUGHT the freedom of the slaves in DC proper. Yes, DC ended slavery in 1862 by bringing in three slave traders from Maryland, having the assess the value of each slave, and pay the owner for the slave.
Second, the EP only applied to those states in rebellion. It did NOT free the slaves in the so-called "border states" -- Maryland, Delaware, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Missouri. It took the 13th Amendment to end slavery in these states (excepting Maryland where Lincoln ended it by throwing all the Democrats in jail).
Third, the order only stated that slaves now had to be paid wages -- it didn't permit them to go work for SOMEONE ELSE -- they were required to continue to work for their former owners. This was replacing slavery with debt peonage because it neither said how much they had to be paid, or what could be deducted from that pay, in a time when one could be imprisoned for debt.
Fourth, the 13th Amendment did not end slavery because it did not apply to the Creek Nation -- who also had Black slaves. It took an 1866 treaty to free their slaves.
Fifth, it took the second sentence of the 4th Section of the 14th Amendment to end it: "But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void."
These are facts, Ilya is WRONG....
So, just like Christmas.
The clingers aren't going to like that observation.
Somin is always wrong. Get used to it.
If only he had said *anything* to acknowledge that June 19 and the Emancipation Proclamation didn't actually end slavery.
You know, something along the lines of, "it is not the anniversary of the day on which the last vestiges of slavery were actually banned."
Uh, yes. The second sentence explains the first. Lincoln agreed he had no general power to free slaves, and therefore did so only pursuant to his power as CinC to suppress rebellions. Just as traitors whose homes or crops were destroyed by U.S. troops didn't get compensation, traitors whose slaves were freed also did not.
He did not. Congress (not Lincoln) passed the DC Compensated Emancipation Act. It freed all slaves in DC automatically. It separately provided for payments to loyal (former) slaveholders who filed claims, but the payments were separate from the emancipation itself; emancipation wasn't conditioned on payments. Former slaveholders who failed to file claims, or who were traitors, got no compensation.
Correct. Since those states were not in rebellion, Lincoln had no authority to free their slaves.
This is a typical Dr. Edism: complete fiction. Here's the actual text of the Emancipation Proclamation:
Not one word about "requiring them to continue to work for their former employers." It simply declared them free. Period.
It did not. The slaves in the states still in rebellion were freed immediately; the remaining slaves were freed by (no later than) the 13th amendment. Except the ones held by independent Indian tribes, which required a separate treaty, yes. Not sure why you think any of this matters.
The Junteenth Order:
"General Order No. 3 states:
“The people of Texas are informed that, in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the United States, all slaves are free. This involves an absolute equality of personal rights and rights of property between former masters and slaves, and the connection heretofore existing between them becomes that between employer and hired labor. The freedmen are advised to remain quietly at their present homes and work for wages. They are informed that they will not be allowed to collect at military posts and that they will not be supported in idleness either there or elsewhere.”
So, you agree that your original statement were wrong?
This is a big step for you!
So aside from the fact that General Order No. 3 is not the actual Emancipation Proclamation, it also doesn't say what you claimed. "Are advised to" and "required to" are in fact different words.
It’s ok to free yourself by killing your oppressors. Oppressors are not your “peeps”. Are they?
Our nation was founded by men who killed their oppressors to do so.
It’s ok to free yourself by killing your oppressors. Or by killing someone else’s oppressors to free them. Who cares if some lost money? They should be glad at least they are still alive. They could have been killed with a clear conscience.
Cue Brett to whitesplain how black people are dumb to celebrate this day and they should’ve picked a different one.
Cue some of the white supremacists to complain that it's a "made up holiday," unlike of course the ones they celebrate like Christmas.
So how are you celebrating the day?
By using it as a political weapon, just like the people who enshrined it as a holiday.
That's the problem with this day. Evil, vile, immoral, subhuman Democrats/Globalists and their constant weaponization of government and politicization of literally everything.
IT'S THE WRONG DAY!!!
SLAVERY DID NOT END ON JUNE 19, 1865.
FACTS MATTER, DAMN IT...
Were they freed, and the only thing left were slips of paper in filing cabinets?
The reason we all unwrap packages on 25Dec is because the early Christians pilfered a Roman holiday. I don't recall anyone twisting their panties in a knot over that, much less throwing an all-caps shriek-fest.
(am I still allowed to use the panties-knots metaphor? I couldn't come-up with any platypus-related similes that worked)
There were already observances of the birth of Jesus on December 25th before the Roman festival for Sol Invictus was established. They adopted some trappings of Saturnalia (which ends a few days before) for future festivals but the birth being on the 25th was a sincere belief.
There are many Christians who are opposed to Christmas festivities because of the pagan origin, in addition to not being mentioned in Scripture or other theological ideas. Puritans are rather famous for this and many modern Reformed churches still hold these beliefs.
Sincere belief? Early guesses included more than a half-dozen dates . . . none of them December 25.
"I don’t recall anyone twisting their panties in a knot over [celebrating Christmas on December 25]." You didn't know my Jehovah's Witness grandparents. They did NOT celebrate Christmas, because they knew it was the wrong date, and in fact was a stolen pagan festival.
It's a day. Some slaves were freed. Other slaves were freed on other days. This is the one enough people got behind to push for a national holiday. Some people get the day off. Others don't. Whatever.
So politically convenient lies are good if they're your lies. OK.
It did in Galveston Texas.
Then Galveston, Texas can declare a regional holiday.
Does that mean the 4th of July should be only celebrated in the original 13 colonies?
No. Did you wander here from a mental institution? The Fourth of July was first celebrated even before the Articles of Confederation were adopted, and it commemorates an event of national significance. As people have thoroughly documented in this comment thread and elsewhere, Juneteenth commemorates an event of local significance to (part of) Texas.
Local events can have national significance. Hence why Juneteenth was celebrated by black Americans all over the country before you even heard about it. I get that it's hard for you to grasp things you don't understand, and it's too late for you to learn critical thinking, so you'll just have to trust me on this.
America did not become independent on July 4, 1776, but we still celebrate independence day on the anniversary of that date. Does that bother you also?
No answer from Dr. Ed. Shocking.
What a prick you can be. We celebrate DECLARING our independence, not achieving it.
Hating the Yankees may be sus, especially if it lends one to sympathize with the Red Sox and their execrable fans, but I wouldn't say it makes him a prick.
Once again: not a Red Sox fan. (I root for them only when they're playing the Yankees.) Orioles.
Yeah, I know. And I like the O’s when they aren’t playing the Yankees. But the Red Sox are somewhere between Trump and Sinwar on the evil spectrum. And while Yankees fans can be obnoxious, there’s no one more insufferable than a Red Sox fan. To wit, Morning Joe.
That also didn't happen on July 4.
Yes -- John wrote to Abigail that July SECOND would be celebrated as the birthday of a great new nation.
Ed just going door to door trying to shock people with his incredible ignorance about holiday origins.
Yeah! If only the post had said something like
to make that clear!
It's almost as if the angry inbred white trash that pollute the comments section don't actually read the articles or can't comprehend what they're reading. Maybe a mix of both.
Dr. Ed 2 wrong as usual; the calendar says that June 19th is in fact being celebrated on June 19th. And of course the rest of the time facts do not matter to Dr. Ed 2.
It's as if the drug-addled leftist trash infesting the comments section here think that June 19th is inherently worth celebrating or are busy applying Marxist theories to undermine civilization. Maybe a mix of both.
The Juneteenth menu is awesome. It would be nice to have the day off to prepare a proper celebration.
How long does it take to fry chicken, slice a watermelon, and chill a case of Colt 45?
Don't forget the grape drink and the illegal menthol cigarettes.
When people tell you who they are, believe them.
Believe they are dumb enough to think that the last slaves were emancipated on June 19th?
Believe their families all came from Texas?
Specifically how should one apply your doctrine to the holiday in question?
You wouldn't, because it's not about that. You know what it's about.
Exactly. There is no reason on earth why people would get all worked up about which of several possible dates was chosen to commemorate emancipation. Well, there's one reason, and we all know what it is.
David,
Your comment brings to mind a statement from a leftist colleague who is very into cancelling those with a history of wrong doing. Now that we have Juneteenth, she would be okay with eliminating MLK Day because he was a misogynist, womanizer and multiple time harasser
In other holiday news:
"Akron, Ohio, June 14, 2024 — Today, the City of Akron has cancelled large gatherings on city-owned property this weekend due to concerns raised by members of Akron City Council. Late this afternoon, 8 city councilmembers shared a letter by email asking the Mayor to cancel Juneteenth events this weekend due to safety concerns. This was signed by the two ward representatives where Juneteenth events were scheduled to take place. You can view the letter here. Based on the City Councilmembers’ letter and the stated concerns in the letter, Mayor Malik is cancelling the following weekend events: [omitted]"
I agree on one thing. Not worth bothering over it. In a few years it will be ignored by most people, other than an excuse for sales and a day off for civil servants. Just like Memorial Day, Labor Day and Veteran's Day.
"In a few years it will be ignored by most people,"
Already ignored.
More like Evacuation Day -- a Massachusetts hack holiday.
Actually, Evacuation Day, which ostensibly celebrates the evacuation of British troops from Boston on March 17, was created as a thinly disguised replacement for St. Patrick's Day, to which there were objections on grounds of its religious nature.
The day to mark the freeing of slaves in the US, not to be remembered or celebrated. The wrong kind of liberty, I guess. Throw up a few more statues of Confederates instead.
Slavery was abolished after a long civil war with great governmental involvement.
The timing of Juneteenth was based on the legal principle that when Union forces controlled a covered area, it was free via the Emancipation Proclamation. A great seizure of property that was justified as a war measure. Validly so, I would think.
The freedom of slavery involves a variety of things, including reproductive justice. Government power has a major role.
The proper degree of power is open to reasoned debate.
Missing verses from the Battle Hymn of the Republic, I guess.
As he died to make men holy, let us live to kill the fetus...
Slavery involved robbing slaves of control of their bodies, including breeding them for profit and pleasure.
Freed slaves felt control over family life, including who and when to marry & have children was a wondrous thing.
Glory, glory, hallelujah,
Snap that spinal cord with the scissors...
Reading your "replies" is a little like observing a dog watching TV.
That's funny. Not equating-abortion-with-emancipation funny, but a solid effort.
Just ignore that it wasn't the end of slavery in the US, but marxists have a narrative to protect and a culture war to wage while whining about their victimhood.
Debt peonage was arguably worse than slavery.
In the 1930s, old women who had been children during slavery said that things were better when they were slaves. The library of congress has these recordings.
Well, yeah, because as property, slaves had value, it wasn't economically sensible to abuse them to the point of destroying that value.
While debt peons could be used up and thrown away without taking an economic hit.
A good chance to once again plug Conscious Choice: The Origins of Slavery in America and Why it Matters Today and for Our Future in Outer Space
This book looks in detail at each of the 13 states, and analyzes why some of them ended up slave states, and some of them free. And a major factor? The prevalence of indentured servitude, which could easily morph into slavery if the contractual terms were not strictly enforced.
It has some important points for how we'll need to go about colonizing space without making the same disastrous choices again.
What, you thing chattel slavery will be the superior aproach?
You know, your determination to read something evil into anything I say really destroys your reading comprehension.
Ok, chalk that up as a joke-fail on my part.
debt peons could be used up and thrown away without taking an economic hit.
Of course you take an economic hit. You lose the ability to put the individual back into debt peonage after he works out of it the first time. And if he doesn't then he is equivalent to a slave, even though he may not appear on the slaveholder's balance sheet.
why some of them ended up slave states, and some of them free. And a major factor? The prevalence of indentured servitude,
Um. Tobacco, and, later, cotton?
If you have some really nasty agricultural work to be done on a large scale it sure is nice to have slaves to do it for you, rather than having to pay the wages it would take to get people to do the job for pay.
The cotton and tobacco plantations had a much bigger problem with white labor than the high wage rate if the free market had been allowed to work. People didn't pay their life savings for passage to America to work for someone else. Free agricultural workers intended to take up their own farm as soon as possible, and the more you paid them, the sooner they would have the funds saved to do that. In the south it was especially easy to just go west to the frontier, claim some fertile land - those who squatted rather than paying for the land were rarely thrown off of it - and be able to survive there.
So to have a labor force that wasn't always quitting to go west, the planters tried buying contracts of indentured servants, who signed a contract to work for a fixed period, often 10 years, in exchange for some cash up front and their passage to the USA. If they had fingerprinting and photography in the 17th century, that might even have worked. But too many broke their contract and ran west, where they could not be picked out from all the penniless free whites who were already there. The only way to bring one of them back was to send someone who knew the runaway by sight - a family member or a hired supervisor - to search the frontier communities, and then try to convince a local court to let them drag one of their residents away in chains. It just wasn't practical.
So then they bought African "servants", because the only description you needed when they ran away was "Negro male". There were few enough that authorities were OK with bringing every black without papers proving his freedom back for the plantation owners to view and claim. And while they initially pretended that these were indentured servants - never mind that they never voluntarily signed a contract - things happened when the expiration dates approached, and few were ever freed. Within a century, the "servants" became legally acknowledged as chattel slaves. Now, the plantations could retain their labor force.
'In the 1930s, old women who had been children during slavery said that things were better when they were slaves'
I wonder why.
I mean, the simple answer is that nostalgia is an incredibly powerful force. And in particular nostalgia for childhood.
But further, note that people "who had been children during slavery" who would've been old enough to actually remember slavery, would've been around 80 years old by the time of these statements!
There were probably also some contemporary factors?
I'm not saying there weren't other factors, and I teach that this was the depths of the Depression -- but it wasn't the answer they were expecting to get -- and that's significant.
Yes, it's arguably worse if you're an inbred moron.
Ever read Upton Sinclair's _Jungle_?
Yup. Great book about horrible conditions. Still not close to chattel slavery.
NPR story yesterday with foks who helped advance Juneteenth to a federal holiday now decrying the over-commercialization.
What did they think was going to happen?
I'm waiting for Hallmark to bring us Juneteenth cards; so many ways that could go wrong...
"For all their failings, the Revolution and Founding paved the way for abolition."
I think abolition could have come through various routes. Our nation took a certain route. The Constitution and our revolutionary ideas had an opening. For instance, slaves were not labeled "property" in the Constitution. As Lincoln noted at Cooper Union, they were called "persons." That was a basic truth.
I also recommend a book referenced.
https://booksinaflash.com/book-summary-until-justice-be-done-americas-first-civil-rights-movement/
Actually, the whole "persons" thing reflects the utter hypocrisy of Southerners. They wanted to keep black people as chattel. Chattel does not vote and is not counted in the census (which in turn sets number of representatives in the lower house of Congress.) Horses and cows are chattel. No one ever thought they should count in the census.
OTOH, the Southerners wanted slaves counted to have more representation and more power. The end result was the 3/5 clause.
White women and children didn’t vote. They were counted in the census. The 3/5 thing arose from the idea that slaves produced less than free people would. Representation and taxes were linked.
Southerners, push comes to shove, realized slaves were not akin to cows. Slaves were treated as persons in various respects. Cows can’t have “freedom suits.” Southern states allowed freedom suits for slaves. They didn’t prosecute cows for crimes.
That's called "trying to have it both ways."
It shows the complexity of slavery.
In Ancient Rome, you had slaves as tutors and scribes. They could be educated. Slaves in many societies served as soldiers.
There were a variety of rules for slaves depending on the state or country involved. They were not treated as you would treat an inanimate object.
I think that's because even the free in Rome were not terribly free, and they had no ideology of liberty that they needed to square the existence of slavery with. And Roman slavery was more akin to indentured servitude in some ways; Slaves were permitted to earn money on the side, and buy their liberty if they earned enough.
In the US, with an ideology of freedom that slavery horribly contrasted with, you needed some way to explain why the slaves didn't get that liberty. Declaring them to be subhuman chattel was the solution the slavers arrived at.
Ancients had philosophies of human nature too.
Slaves in the U.S. at times bought their freedom.
They "explained" it in a variety of ways, including racism. Slaveowners still did not merely treat them as "subhuman chattel." They realized they were people and treated them so in a variety of ways.
You're just full of equivocation, aren't you? First "reproductive freedom" and now "philosophies of human nature".
I'm trying to be general here. "Equivocation" is a questionable way to frame it.
Reproductive freedom includes a variety of things. It doesn't just mean abortion. Likewise, this term is intended to cover a lot of ground, both philosophical, and more religious in nature.
Yes, yes, we know you have both a motte and a bailey.
Denying women the right to vote while was also hypocritical, but, ostensibly, white women didn't need the ability to vote because their interests were represented by the man responsible for them. Slaves and free blacks did not have any such representation of their interests.
If white men were "responsible" for women and children, they were responsible for their slaves too. That was the conceit. A sense of paternalism that made slaves better than labor in a sweatshop.
Likewise, property requirements denied many poor whites the right to vote. The idea was that the better sort, so-called, would defend their interests. Employers would defend the interests of employees.
Not an ideal system. Such is the value of general suffrage.
The difference is that the conceit that slaves didn't need to vote because they had somebody responsible for them was shown to be insincere. After the slaves were freed and mostly left to their own devices, the former slave states immediately put targeted restrictions on their voting rights, parts of which lasted for a century. On the other hand, as independent women became more commonplace states began opening up voting for these specific women before general suffrage, though less so in the slave states.
Disenfranchising the poor was also hypocritical but at least simple property requirements were dropped relatively quickly, particularly compared to the obviously race-based restrictions.
It's ultimately a game of "would you rather" here.
The 15th Amendment still was passed, years before the 19th. Also, women continued to be treated as second-class citizens.
Slavery was our biggest problem but there were a lot & they lingered. Poverty continues to be a major problem.
Husbands voted the way their wives wanted them to -- even if she wasn't sitting next to him, she'd be told how he voted.
It was a FAMILY vote, cast by the husband because the wife was often home pregnant. Women would have a dozen or more pregnancies, with half their children dying in infancy.
Ever been married?
Known when I went through school as "the 3/5th's compromise", because the slavers wanted 5/5ths, the North wanted 0/5ths, and 3/5ths was, in fact, a compromise to kick the issue down the road, at a time when most thought slavery was on its way out anyway.
Anyway, slaves were called "persons" whenever referenced, not just when determining representation and direct tax rules. The Constitution also didn't label the race of the slaves.
The Confederate Constitution went another way.
("right of property in negro slaves" etc.)
Yes, the Founders, even the slave owning ones, were not proud of slavery, and didn't want to expressly mention it in the Constitution. They were, as I said, just kicking the can down the road, on the assumption that slavery was on its way out anyway, and they had more important things to concern themselves with, such as holding onto that independence they'd lately won.
And slavery WAS on its way out, until the invention of the cotton gin made slave raised cotton an economic powerhouse.
But even so, the slavers could see that slavery wasn't spreading as the nation grew, and that eventually enough of the nation would be free to have ratified the 13th amendment without a single slave state voting for it. Seceding was a last ditch effort to avoid that fate.
The cotton gin made slavery more profitable in various areas.
Many HOPED slavery was on the way out. It is far from clear, especially with so much land available, that it truly was.
Yeah, the "slavery was on its way out" (even with the "before the invention of the cotton gin" caveat) assumes that people were/are purely rational economic actors. Slavery was a social system to keep black people down, not merely an economic system, and there's no reason to think slaver societies would've been willing to free slaves just because it would've made economic sense to do so. Even when slavery was obviously on the way out, slavers resisted emancipation. Look at Delaware, which rejected compensated emancipation proposals even though there weren't very many slaves in Delaware. Maryland rejected it as late as 1863, and of course ended up with uncompensated emancipation shortly thereafter. Hitler kept killing Jews even when that diverted resources from fighting advancing Soviet armies.
With a little training I bet slaves could write code like a MF- er
Slavery may have remained legal but it wasn’t going to remain economically viable. That’s why the Confederacy couldn’t compete already.
The capital expenditure was going to become too large for the returns without greater protectionism.
But for the cotton gin, it would have been...
Ilya could have looked at how the Massachusetts Constitution of 1780 ended slavery when a slave asked the Mass SJC "what about me" and the SJC said "you're right."
Great book.
Ending slavery was the right move. Letting the freed slaves stay in America was not.
Had the American Colonization Society been successful, we wouldn't have to deal with this group and their constant disorder today.
Aaand... another mute
Don't you really wish there was a way a 'mute' could follow through all the successor socks?
A day at the Volokh Conspiracy without a steady stream of bigotry is like . . . anything that doesn't exist.
Carry on, clingers.
Including the law professors (current and former) who operate this blog, not one of whom has the courage to say a discouraging word about the incessant bigotry that is a signature element of their blog.
Truth is painful, isn’t it?
very much so.
Dude, gross!
I hope we meet in person someday. It would be a very enjoyable conversation for one of us.
i don't talk to potato eating, guiness guzzling micks like yourself.
I'm not even close to Irish. LOL.
Good grief you're utterly useless.
I feel the same way about inbred white trash. And yet, here you are.
I agree that this is - AND IT SHOULD BE MORE EMPHASIZED - a holiday about OUR NATION'S achievements.
It's not a national Let's Celebrate Black People day.
I wouldn't even bring in civil rights issues since that is a war that is still being fought.
Our ancestors did something tremendous and it should the day should be celebrated for that.
Who is fighting the "war" you mention? Is that war why the US murder rate is so high compared to other countries?
It's the guns.
It’s the descendants of Slaves
This is a good day to point out that the "emancipation proclamation" did not free a single slave in the United States of America.
Completely and utterly false. You seem to think if you keep writing it, it will become true.
Your Pubic Screw-el Ed-Jew-ma-cation is showing. Which is unfair, because I learned the truth in a Pubic High Screw-el, one named after the Confederate President
The greatest achievement of Big Government. Made possible by the iron fist of federal power.
Spoken like a true Marxist/Communist.
Precisely. It is also a reminder that fundamental liberties when left to the (meth) laboratories of the states run by racist hillbillies have adverse outcomes for blacks, women etc. Federal supremacy should trump all state laws regarding health, liberty and happiness
hobie,
in case you are unaware "hillbillies" is a slur for poor Appalachian whites
Very aware of it. Ozarks too. Just because they are poor and dumb doesn't excuse them from ridicule. Their abuse of power over minorities for centuries offends me
And that excuses a slur?
I'll recall that if I hear you criticize the use of an ethnic or racial slur.
Well Stolen Valor is a Federal Crime, I’m sure the Blacks appreciate you being so concerned about their difficulties
It's a law blog, at least try to not make bad legal takes.
https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/united-states-v-alvarez/
Fucking hall monitor.
Aww poor Baby Bumble upset by facts. He said something that was incorrect and was corrected on it, I'm sorry that hurt your fee fees. Now stop crying.
Tell that to the Hell's Angel Vet who doesn't buy your "Marine Corpse F-16 Pilot story" they don't put much stock in court decisions (now there are a few USMC who flew Air Farce fighters on "exchange" tours, or with the Agressor squadron, or even 1 on a training exercise when some IDF Vipers showed up, but you gotta keep your story straight)
You said "federal crime" not "it will anger an imaginary character I've created in my head". The two aren't the same, dummy. And if you're concerned about stolen valor, start with yourself and leave the military references to people that actually served.
"While right-wing critics fear that Juneteenth is somehow anti-American, some more left-wing commentators emphasize that slavery was not fully abolished on June 19, 1865, ... Slavery was not legally banned throughout the United States until the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment in December 1865."
I am shocked to find that I'm a left wing commentator.
Yes, indeed, my only complaint here is that June 19th has only local significance, and that if you want to celebrate the abolition of slavery in the US, (An entirely reasonable thing to do!) you should celebrate it when slavery was actually abolished, not merely locally, but nation-wide.
Which is, in fact, a perfectly reasonable point. If anything is lame, it's celebrating something on the day you know for an absolute fact it didn't happen.
When an army rolls through and frees you, that is no small thing. 30 years ago I was in the NL in a small market. While talking to the cashier, an old Dutch man behind me heard my English and said, “You are British?” I said, “No, American.”
“Oh! American! We appreciate you more than you know!”
They even require their kids to learn English. As an aside, we should not abuse the Netherlands’ near infinite loyalty to the US. Are you hearing that, various presidents?
"When an army rolls through and frees you, that is no small thing."
Yeah, absolutely, and June 19th was a perfectly sensible date for what was until relatively recently a LOCAL celebration. I just don't see why anybody in, say, Delaware, should consider the date worth commemorating.
The story happened locally. The story is American.
American stories sometimes take place even in Texas.
What does that even mean? Seriously, why should somebody in Delaware or Kentucky care when slavery ended in Galveston, Texas? Did the people in Galveston decide to celebrate its end in Atlanta?
It's an evocative story standing in for a broader national event.
This is not hard to understand.
Why should somebody in Arizona or Montana or, you know, 37 other states care when the 13 original colonies became independent of England?
Three of the other 37 states were carved out of the original states, and your statement appears to indicate 52 states. But the point is a good one at least with regard to at least 34 states.
Whoops. Yes, you are right; I screwed up that comment. But the underlying point doesn't change. (It was, of course, a rhetorical question.)
"Why should somebody in Arizona or Montana or, you know, 37 other states care when the 13 original colonies became independent of England?"
Because they choose to join the union created by those states (they weren't annexed).
Um, what? No, they in fact were. They had no choice. (They could, perhaps, have chosen not to be states, but that would have simply left them as territories of the U.S.)
My uncle was over there in the Battle of the Bulge and then afterwards with the engineers -- we also helped rebuild afterwards.
Unlike the French, they very much did appreciate what we did for them. At least that generation did, not sure about today.
One of the things that helped end the Soviet Union was when they had an earthquake in the 1980s and had to ask us for help, which we provided. And then, much to *everyone's* surprise, we went home. We didn't occupy the land as was expected, we went home before they even wanted us to.
"I don't make things up," says guy who makes everything up. What the ever living fuck are you talking about? Occupying the land? Everyone was surprised we went home? I repeat: what the ever living fuck are you talking about?
The U.S. sent some search-and-rescue teams and of course relief supplies to the Soviet Union after the 1988 Armenian earthquake. The U.S. did not send combat troops, did not have any way to occupy the land even if we wanted to, and of course absolutely nobody was surprised that we did not try to do so.
And this had nothing at all to do with the end of the Soviet Union.
'I am shocked to find that I’m a left wing commentator.'
You and Dr Ed, it seems.
This is some god-tier edgelord pedantic shit right here. You can nearly hear Brett saying, in a high-pitched whine, “Um, actuallyyyyyy…”
Yup, I'm with you. It makes more sense as a national holiday to celebrate the date of the Emancipation Proclamation. If I were voting for a day of the new holiday, that's how I'd choose. But that's not how new holidays tend to come about, and Juneteenth is the one that captured the imagination the most. I don't see how it's such a big deal that people are upset about it. There are a lot of potential dates that have some argument to them, so does it really matter which one was ultimately chosen?
Well, it seems like the ratification of the 13th amendment would actually be better than the Emancipation Proclamation, both in terms of effect and practicality (January 1 is already taken as a holiday). But Juneteenth is perfectly reasonable. Except, of course, to the people who don't think emancipation is worth celebrating in the first place.
I would pick the day the 13th Amendment was proclaimed, but that was December 18. June 19 is just obviously a better day for another holiday. And this is a great reason for a holiday.
Agree.
I hope that at some point, it spreads to become better recognized. And then becomes a floating "Monday" holiday.
Look, for anyone saying, "It's not the actual day of whatever!" ... I mean, c'mon. It's about what the day represents. And, hopefully at some point, a three-day weekend.
If they chose whatever is Monday between June 13th and June 19th, it would still be a June something teenth.
Heartily agree!
“ While right-wing critics fear that Juneteenth is somehow anti-American, ”
I don’t think that is a legitimate fear, Juneteenth originated and was first celebrated as a holiday in Texas. From Wikipedia:
“Beginning with Texas by proclamation in 1938, and by legislation in 1979,”
Can’t get more American than that.
I mean, then they should make it a two-day holiday.
Everything's bigger in Texas, right?
Right. Almost the only complaint I've heard is that it makes no sense to celebrate the abolition of slavery nation-wide on a date that had only local significance. I've no doubt that there are other complaints floating around, but that's the near universal one for people who find the holiday silly.
That's the stupid objection, for people who want to object in a way that won't seem racist. But the fact that you find the holiday 'silly' seems like a giveaway.
But the official reason is on June 19, 1865, the slaves in Galveston were told they were free...which they were. Only on Dec 6 did all slaves in all states get freedom. But June 19 is the day blacks cherish most.
Of course you and Bellmore's surely-not-driven-by-inner-racism quibblings over this holiday are disingenuous. If they aren't then I expect you to hack to pieces July 4th. We just self-identified as independent that day. We still had to fight the War for Independence. We were only truly independent at the signing of the Treaty of Paris September 3, 1783.
I expect silence from you two on this matter going forward.
Can you tell me please, what I should be silent about?
As a former Texas resident I celebrated Juneteenth along with everyone else decades before the rest of the country became as enlightened as we were.
However I will acknowledge that in the late 80's and 90's state employees had to choose which day they got for a paid holiday: Juneteenth or Confederate Independence day.
It wasn't a way to forget what happened in Galveston about 40 years later? An island about 11 feet above high tide with a 20 foot storm surge, if I remember correctly...
"I can see the cannon flashing (to warn people), I can see you running (for your life) on the beach where we used to play... you were twenty one the night of (the) Galveston (flood).
So many bodies washed out to sea that we have no idea how many people died there -- and the railroads gave free fare to anyone wanting to leave. Before the hurricane, Galveston was far more prosperous than Houston.
Galveston Island had better ocean access than Houston, and even in the developed east, the railroads didn't replace ocean travel until about 1920 or so. The Great Portland Gale was 1898 -- the SS Portland was one of several steamships that transported people between Boston & Portland ME, even though the railroad was there, the steamships were still doing a good business.
This should warm your cold, white hearts. Type 'Juneteenth' into Google search to get special screen fireworks
Stop projecting your shortcomings onto the rest of us, troll.
Did you type 'juneteenth' into your browser, Michael?
Did you stop projecting your shortcomings onto the rest of us, troll?
He can't take the chance, his white power brethren may surreptitiously check his search history.
Lol!
Oh, look, another troll projecting his shortcomings onto the rest of us. Sad!
Nobody is surprised that you're a racist.
The 13th Amendment was ratified in December.
December is already a holiday season.
Juneteenth does have special local significance in Texas.
But, it also was the completion of abolition under the Emancipation Proclamation. It has a wider context.
Few areas still had slavery afterward. Loyal slave states like Maryland already declared the end of slavery. A few elderly slaves lived in NJ, a small number lived in Delaware. The main place it remained was in Kentucky. The end of slavery in border states like Maryland was a Civil War-related thing. It’s connected.
Juneteenth is a sensible time to celebrate the end of slavery. It is in the middle of patriotic holidays that celebrate our values and freedom — Flag Day & 4th of July.
You're just making excuses for why we should celebrate the end of slavery on a day slavery didn't end, a fact you repeatedly confirm as you downplay it. That's the bottom line so far as I'm concerned.
The day slavery ended was well over a hundred years ago. We can't celebrate things on the day they happened, because those days are in the past.
You're just being autistic here. Why should we celebrate Washington's Birthday — to the extent we should celebrate it at all — on a date when he wasn’t born? Why should we celebrate Independence Day on a date when we didn't become independent? Why celebrate "Thanksgiving" on a random Thursday in November? Why should we celebrate the fictional birthdate of a fictional character in December at all?
The government didn't pluck June 19th out of thin air and proclaim it a holiday (NTTAWWT.) It took the date that people were already commemorating the occasion, as has been repeatedly explained to you.
Much -- if not most -- of this blog is autistic. Deal with it.
It’s time for Wapner
Have you been drinking or did you complete the late Queenie's class in dissembling and obfuscation?
Prior to the The Uniform Monday Holiday Act Washington's birthday was celebrated on Feb. 22; Independence day is celebrated as the day we declared our independence (like in Declaration of Independence); Thanksgiving doesn't celebrate an event and if you are not a Christian you are free not to celebrate their "fictional" holiday (although I will admit I don't know the original justification for making it a federal holiday).
"The government didn’t pluck June 19th out of thin air and proclaim it a holiday (NTTAWWT.) It took the date that people were already commemorating the occasion, as has been repeatedly explained to you."
What people? Prior the the last decade 99% of the people in this country ahd no idea what Juneteenth was and most still don't.
Patronizing bullshit like St. Nancy and company taking a knee for George Floyd.
'dissembling and obfuscation?'
More words you simply don't know the meaning of.
‘Prior the the last decade 99% of the people in this country ahd no idea what Juneteenth was and most still don’t’
Awareness is spreading on the right, given the amount of whining they devote to it. But at the same time, boasting about their ignorance? Which is not unusual, of course.
Douches gotta be douches; now do Kwanza. Can a George Floyd day be far behind?
By the way, contrary to what your parents told you, you are NOT special nor gifted (except as a douche).
When arguments fail...slander
There is no holiday associated with black people, real or imagined, that you will not get a rage-on for.
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
- Lyndon B. Johnson
Did LBJ know Bumble's pappy?
And yet, he was actually born on February 11.
So you're saying that the day something is announced is a reasonable choice to commemorate it? Weird.
People who wanted to commemorate the end of slavery.
“And yet, he was actually born on February 11.”
George Washington was born in Virginia on February 11, 1731, according to the then-used Julian calendar. In 1752, however, Britain and all its colonies adopted the Gregorian calendar which moved Washington’s birthday a year and 11 days to February 22, 1732.
“So you’re saying that the day something is announced is a reasonable choice to commemorate it? Weird.”
Yes, because that is what the celebration commemorates.
Guess you think John Adam’s is weird,
“John Adams wrote a remarkable letter to his beloved wife Abigail on July 3, 1776. On the eve of what was to be Independence Day, Adams wrote, “I am apt to believe that (Independence Day) will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival.”
“People who wanted to commemorate the end of slavery.”
Except that was not the end of slavery in the US.
Whoosh!
I didn't say it was. I said that was the day picked by people who wanted to commemorate the end of slavery.
"although I will admit I don’t know the original justification for making it a federal holiday"
I expect the same as Easter, or the first day of deer season in Michigan: The joint is going to be half empty anyway, why not throw up your hands and make it an official holiday?
Easter isn’t an official holiday.
Brett, what on earth does it matter to you? Just enjoy the day. Go to a Juneteenth parade and make some friends!
Juneteenth over the years expanded from being a local holiday to more of a general celebration. Ultimately, it became a national holiday.
The "official date" of the end of slavery was not accepted by the people at large as a day as interesting as Juneteenth.
I suggested some reasons why. Others added to that.
When someone gives an "excuse" to skip work because of a doctor's appointment, it's not a problem. It explains why.
No Brett, the real problem I have is that this holiday was imposed by mob violence and the threat of mob violence. It isn't like there was a rational basis made for it, instead it was support this or we will burn down your city.
How is that different from what the Klan used to do?
And Memorial Day, which originally was to commemorate the soldiers killed in the Civil War.
a/k/a Decoration Day.
Of course we need an official holiday to celebrate the formal end of slavery and the sacrifices it took to get there. Juneteenth was developed for this purpose independently of the government. So it’s the best candidate for an official holiday.
Of course certain progressives will try to hijack the holiday, like capitalists hijacking Easter and Christmas. That won’t stop sensible people from observing what ought to be the true lessons of the holiday:
-It took the sacrifices of a *biracial* army to end slavery – so let’s celebrate, black and white together. Other groups can join in too.
-Freedom literally isn’t free – you literally have to fight against slavery, not only metaphorical but actual.
-Most of the victors in the Civil War, like Lincoln, thought the victory was a fulfillment not a contradiction of America's founding principles.
I mean, if we're going to be picky about it, there are a few criticisms. The practical, the historical, and the overall concept.
1-Practical. From a practical concept, a random Wednesday (or whenever it falls on, according to June 19th) is a bit irritating. It would be better, and more heavily "celebrated" if it was consistently on a Monday or Friday. There are a few holidays that doesn't occur with (July 4th is the notable one), but more where it's traditional to fall on a Monday. Veterans day is a classic "Holiday" which essentially gets ignored by a vast number of people, because it falls oddly.
2 - Historical. From a historical context, of course slavery wasn't eliminated on June 19th, it was still present in other areas of the Union. One might argue it would be better to have this day when the Emancipation Proclamation was signed or made official (September 22nd or January 1st), or when slavery was actually abolished (December 6th)
3. Overall. Let's face it, there are a lot of important dates. And with previous holidays (ie, Washington's birthday, Lincoln's birthday) they were moved and/or merged (Yes, Lincoln's birthday was a state holiday, in roughly half the states, not technically a federal holiday). Seems a little odd to now have "two" federal holidays essentially celebrating African Americans (MLK day + Juneteeth), but none celebrating...for example...Women's rights. I could see eliminating MLK day and adding August 18th's as a Women's rights day, for example. That may happen in the future.
Now that Blacks have two holidays, there is a long list of other groups that will want at least one. Chinese, Mexicans, Indians, Jews, Arabs, etc. Maybe even White people. Juneteenth was really supposed to make up for George Floyd dying of a fentanyl overdose. Or maybe it was Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown, I forget. The MLK holiday doesn't work anymore because advocated for race-blindness, and that is out of fashion among today's woke Left.
Only white people are supposed to have holidays, I guess.
Only white Christian bigots, at least during the "good old days."
No Jewish holidays were celebrated at my schools, although Jewish students were excused if they wished to be. (They were not, however, customarily provided the courtesy or respect of being called Jews.) Muslims weren't even in the conversation. Christianity was celebrated every week -- the cafeteria never served meat on Fridays; it was fish sticks or pizza or grilled cheese or something similar.
Things got better.
There are ten other federal holidays. Five of them fall on Mondays, five of them do not.
Today is also the tenth anniversary of my becoming a US citizen 🙂
As far as de facto abolition is concerned, I recommend Blackman's (no, not that one) book, Slavery by another name - which shows that it persisted up until WWII. And there is evidence for it persisting in one or two places until the 1960s.
Congrats on that = US citizenship
Thank you and Jason C!
I have not regretted my decision.
Congratulations. I hope we've been good to you.
Slavery actually exists in the US today -- there are disturbing rumors of sex slaves and such amongst Biden's Horde.
If there are merely rumours, you have no basis for asserting that it acually exists.
That is a worthy anniversary.
Every day is a good day to celebrate freedom … and the defeat of Democrats.
Funny how those two things are so often related!
Did Democrats take away your freedoms, DWB? You care to list a couple?
On a side note: you a member of the DWB prison gang?
You petty tyrants dictate how much water I can shit in, and the flow of my shower.
There isn't a single thing in a home that's free from your petty tyranny.
HaHa! Is that the first-world freedom you guys are aggravated over?! Is this what all the rage is about? No words. You mean to tell me that your towering racism and xenophobia is because of your toilet flow? Heh. Dude, you just made my day. Thank you.
Your indomitable desire to dictate the details of JHBHBE's toilet certainly reflects on you.
Congratulations SRG2!
Thanks!
Only thing I mind out this holiday is the silly name. Why the "Juneteenth", instead of saying what is meant: June 19th? Just irritating to me in an irrational way.
Because the White Saviors don't think the coloreds can count or that they know what a calendar is. Just like they think they don't know how to get a valid ID.
Datz be hardz-a! I be waitin fo dee Kingfish to get me mine!
Since the ban on menthol cigarettes disproportionately effects blacks, doesn't the principle of disparate impact conclude that the ban is fundamentally racist and therefore illegal?
It's just redlining but for tobacco.
From the comments on here, Juneteenth at least has the right enemies.
Great comment! Really moving the conversation forward with that one!
Good work!
Wonder how many Black Restaurant workers have to work today in the District of Colored People? Mostly serving White Government Employees
Of course you do. And, because this is the Volokh Conspiracy, you also must wonder aloud.
You dumbasses understand that young people --especially educated, successful, decent young Americans -- will discount or dismiss everything you conservative bigots think, say, or prefer, simply because they despise bigots, right?
You're wasting your breath on this candystriper.
The American Slave was always free, they just didn't know it, didn't know how to fight it, or they accepted their internment as it kept them alive.
Freedom is precarious and must be struggled for all the time with no rest and no end.
"The American Slave was always free"
That comment must have been what former professor Volokh had in mind when he first thought a right-wing blog for disaffected bigots would be worthwhile.
The arguments above citing amendments and law regarding slavery shows clearly the insanity of government, the tool of oppression.
No one need support government; it's not lawful in the sense of it being validated by vote. Government remains the worst solution, in its present form, even if people vote since voting is not fundamental in checking abuse.
The People still remain slaves to this day.
"The People still remain slaves to this day."
Maybe you should have a deep conversation with the guy above who wrote "The American Slave was always free, they just didn’t know it" about what it means to be free versus to be enslaved.
Yesterday was also "National Martini Day" like they say, Jay-Hey doesn't joke, but he comes close.
and did you know the name "Martini" comes from the town of Martinez CA, where it was invented?
as the late great Johnny Carson would say,
"I did not know that"
Frank "Hey-Yooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
Juneteenth feels weird in large part because it is a new national holiday. I’m in a state that doesn’t have Columbus Day as a state holiday, so the other floating holidays are Independence Day, Christmas, and New Years. Each of those holidays has a well-built tradition that goes with it. Once a semi-consensus tradition of how to celebrate Juneteenth builds up, I think it will feel less weird.