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Claim That University of Oregon Equity Blocked Twitter User for Tweeting "All Men Are Created Equal" Can Go Forward
From Gilley v. Stabin, decided today by the Ninth Circuit, in an opinion by Judges Ryan Nelson and Daniel Collins:
Using the University's @UOEquity Twitter account, tova stabin, then Communication Manager for the University's Division of Equity and Inclusion, tweeted a prompt purporting to show ways to respond to racist comments. {We follow stabin's convention of not capitalizing her name.} Gilley quote tweeted the "racism interrupter" tweet by saying that "all men are created equal." In response, stabin blocked him from the University's @UOEquity account. His blocking lasted for two months. During that time, Gilley attempted to learn what policies governed his blocking. The University denied the existence of any such policy.
Gilley sued stabin … for violating his First Amendment rights…. In response, the University unblocked him ….
The court concluded that the challenge wasn't moot (with Judge William Fletcher dissenting):
Mootness turns on whether the voluntary cessation exception applies because "a defendant cannot automatically moot a case simply by ending its unlawful conduct once sued." As the party asserting that "the challenged conduct cannot reasonably be expected to start up again," the University bears the "heavy" burden of making that showing…. [T]he University's decision to unblock Gilley was not due to a statutory or regulatory change …. Given the policy's lack of formality and relative novelty, how easily the policy can be reversed, and the lack of procedural safeguards to protect from arbitrary action, the University has not met its heavy burden to show that the conduct cannot reasonably be expected to recur….
We remand to the district court to reconsider whether Gilley has standing to seek pre-enforcement facial relief under the proper standard we address above, namely that standing is assessed at the time of the complaint. In deciding this issue in the first instance, the district court should be mindful that the Supreme Court has allowed "pre-enforcement review under circumstances that render the threatened enforcement sufficiently imminent." "[W]hen the threatened enforcement effort implicates First Amendment rights, the inquiry tilts dramatically toward a finding of standing." And "evidence of past instances of enforcement"—such as the enforcement Gilley experienced when he was blocked from viewing a government account for months— "is important in a standing inquiry." …
We affirm the district court's conclusion that Gilley has raised serious questions on the merits of some of his claims. We reject its conclusion, however, that Gilley failed to adequately allege a risk of irreparable injury. Again, he had been blocked for two months when he first sought injunctive relief. During that time, he sought to learn information on the policy pursuant to which he was blocked without having to petition the courts. The University denied that there was such a policy throughout the period that Gilley remained blocked.
The University later disclosed to Gilley its internal social media policy that contained criteria for blocking users and claimed that this policy was operative at the time of Gilley's blocking. In arguing before us that there was a policy, but that stabin violated it, the University shows that it lacks sufficient policies to prevent such departures from policy by a rogue employee. These facts readily demonstrate irreparable harm. When, as here, a constitutional injury is "threatened and occurring at the time of respondents' motion," there is a risk of irreparable injury. Given the irreparable harm that Gilley actually faced in the months before he filed this action, he has carried his burden of showing "some cognizable danger" of a recurrent violation beyond that necessary to avoid mootness.
Judge William Fletcher dissented:
When the University learned that Gilley had been blocked, it immediately unblocked him and rejected stabin's decision to block him as inconsistent with its prohibition on viewpoint discrimination. Gilley's request for prospective relief is therefore moot.
stabin blocked Gilley on one occasion. She acted alone and without the knowledge or approval of any other University employee. The University unblocked Gilley the day it learned of his lawsuit. stabin retired the same day.
A few days later, the University sent Gilley a letter stating that it "does not intend to block [Gilley] or anyone else in the future based on their exercise of protected speech." The University also reiterated to its employees that, under its social media guidelines, "[w]e don't delete comments or block users because they are critical or because we disagree with the sentiment or viewpoint." It instructed its employees to "unblock any users you have blocked immediately unless you can make a compelling case that they have violated the guidelines." There is no evidence the University will block Gilley again or modify the guidelines' prohibition on viewpoint discrimination.
The majority holds that the University has not carried its burden to show mootness because its guidelines "lack … formality"; are relatively new; and lack "procedural safeguards." But it is undisputed that the record shows that the guidelines are written; that the guidelines have existed since at least 2019; and that employees are subject to discipline if they fail to abide by the guidelines. The record further shows that stabin's decision to block Gilley was an anomaly. There have been the 2,558 retweets and replies directed at the @UOEquity account in the past decade. Only three users (including Gilley) have been blocked during that period.
The University unblocked Gilley immediately upon learning of stabin's action. In unblocking Gilley, the University "did not effect a policy change in the typical sense" because it did not make any modifications to the guidelines. Instead, in reversing stabin's action, the University reiterated that the guidelines prohibit viewpoint discrimination. When, as here, a government defendant "states that it will be more vigilant in following a previously existing policy" in a non-discriminatory manner, "[o]ur confidence in the Government's voluntary cessation … is at an apex."
On this record, there has been clear voluntary cessation, with virtually no likelihood of resumption. Gilley's request for an injunction is therefore moot….
Del Kolde and Stephanie Brown (Institute for Free Speech) and D. Angus Lee (Angus Lee Law Firm, PLLC) represent Gilley.
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Counting down to comments that a person at UO is crazy and a dem so all dems are awful people destroying the country and only MAGA policies and Trump can save us. Also a bunch of Biden hate.
This hate cheers you and that is why you are so disliked -- if you are interested.
At some point, the large number of examples of public institutions ignoring basic First Amendment rights exhibits a pattern. Or, as the old saying goes, the plurality of anecdote is data.
What exactly is a "racism interrupter"? (Does some searching... Page after endless page of t shirts... Ah, finally!) "” The Racism Interrupter consists of a quotation or prompt, designed to provoke a discussion about racism or DEI. "
So, he got blocked because the DIE department thinks "All men are created equal" is racist.
And … go.
You sound racist. Why are you afraid to denounce or even discuss racist policies?
If you want someone willing to discuss racism, the Volokh Conspiracy features racism every day and you rarely have to wait long for Prof. Volokh to publish a vile racial slur.
No, he got blocked because he was trying to troll the UOEquity account, and is now seeking culture warfare litigation, backed by yet another "free speech" advocacy organization, this one with a notable number of cases involving the Moms for Liberty fascist organization.
Not really an interesting case, otherwise.
The way not to be trolled is. er, not to be trolled.
The significant thing here isn't that they experienced it as 'trolling', but instead WHAT they experienced as 'trolling': An anodyne statement about the equality of all men!
It's the sort if thing they can only be offended by because they actually think it's wrong.
Just like "all lives matter" only offends people who disagree with it; If they actually agreed they'd just say, "That's exactly the point!"
They get offended because they really do think that some animals are more equal than others.
'Just like “all lives matter” only offends people who disagree with it; If they actually agreed they’d just say, “That’s exactly the point!”'
A perfect example of why it WAS trolling - if all lives did matter it would be INCLUSIVE of black lives, not set in opposition to them.
Now that’s classic Nige logic. The explicitly inclusive statement is ackchyually racist because it is set in contrast to the statement that explicitly privileges black lives.
No, yours is 'I'm not touching you' logic. We're not that stupid. But you're motivated enough to fool yourself, you are that stupid.
No, that's exactly why experiencing it as trolling makes it obvious they don't believe in that fundamental equality. If you do believe in that equality, it's "Black lives [also] matter", and saying "All lives matter" is agreement.
If you experience it as disagreement, it's because you really mean "[Only] black lives matter", or "Black lives matter [more]".
Brett, we all understand connotation. You read in between the lines of everything else, don't pretend you don't understand at this late date what 'all lives matter' means ('fuck BLM').
We are literally discussing somebody who was blocked on Twitter by a DEI official for stating that "All men are created equal".
You are so deep in denial about what is going on in this country you're at risk of nitrogen narcosis. DIE is run by stone cold racists.
You're literally missing the context on purpose.
It may indeed mean, "fuck BLM", but that is not the same as meaning, "fuck black people" or anything similarly racist.
But if I said "all lives matter", I would mean all lives matter, and I'd be saying it not simply as a "Let's go Brandon", but to make the broader point that intentional division can never produce unity or equality. Even in its most innocent guise, "Black Lives Matter" highlights and focuses on our differences, not our similarities, and that I believe is the only way to move beyond racism and prejudice.
In any case, I refuse to allow you or anyone else to shove your filthy meaning into my mouth without my consent.
I don't disagree this seems oversensitive. We'll see what the law has to say.
My issue is specifically with those claiming 'all lives matter' and 'All men are created equal' should be taken as though you were born yesterday.
Even in its most innocent guise, “Black Lives Matter” highlights and focuses on our differences, not our similarities
BLM would say that difference is already manifest in the issue they are highlighting. (Statistically that is not established, but that is their PoV)
White dudes are the default; we got so many doors opened for us we think it's a hallway. Saying lets stop thinking about demographic groups is a great way to ignore other folks saying their experience was not ours.
I'm not saying everyone claiming demographic headwinds is right, or even always in good faith. I'm saying the journey to equality must confront inequality, not whistle past the graveyard.
"we got so many doors opened for us we think it’s a hallway"
A very crowded hallway with an jam at every door. There is a lot of opportunity, and a lot of competition.
But the major problem facing Blacks is they fall behind early in life in the first 4 years of school. But that's a hard problem to solve, so the solution is a feel good one that won't work because it doesn't address the problem: DEI (which functions both as a feel good virtue signalling for whites, and make work jobs for minorities).
"My issue is specifically with those claiming ‘all lives matter’ and ‘All men are created equal’ should be taken as though you were born yesterday."
My claim is that they should be taken as meaning what the words mean. Even if the people who originally uttered those words didn't live up to them.
Just like people respect MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech, though he ended up embracing racial preferences, instead of living up to that speech.
"White dudes are the default; we got so many doors opened for us we think it’s a hallway."
First of all, that's a stupid, racist stereotype. It really is. In a country as heterogenous as this, to pretend that there's a "white" experience, that's universal among the rich and the poor, Southerners and Northerners, young and old, is just as imbecilic as pretending that there's a uniform "black" experience.
Second, does that mean that DIE departments are entitled to slam doors in the way of innocent whites who had nothing to do with that history even for the blacks who did experience it? Because that's what they're doing, they're scarcely even pretending otherwise.
>>“White dudes are the default; we got so many doors opened for us we think it’s a hallway.”
>First of all, that’s a stupid, racist stereotype. It really is. In a >country as heterogenous as this, to pretend that there’s a >“white” experience, that’s universal among the rich and the >poor, Southerners and Northerners, young and old, is just as >imbecilic as pretending that there’s a uniform “black” >experience.
Very much this. It's a big mistake to assume one's personal experience is universal.
No, sorry, you are both wrong, for at least 3 reasons
1) It will take a legal ruling (which greatly increases racism) to decide HOW MUCH you are Black -- as in the Civil War south for no one is pure Black and all fall on a spectrum from almost without Black ancestors in the traceable past to largely Black.
2) Thouth you might in a racist way think that I a Black should place my color first in the self-identity roster it might be quite low, behind Catholic, Republican, American, etc.
3)If you can adjudicate my Blackness why can't I adjudicate your Whiteness. You might be a 25% Black yourself and then what 🙂
Simon, the UI is a state actor and the solution is thus not to HAVE a twatter account.
Remember the litigation over Trump's personal twatter account?
NO, it is not. Whoever is paying the tuition bills gets top priority,though you are unintentionally making the point that govt is why no one can read,write, or do rithmentc. Really !! the strong arm of the Federal Govt over a Twitter matter !!!
Brett, you really gotta go to duckduckgo.com on this sort of stuff.
A "Racism Interrupter" is a form response, e.g.
“It sounded like you just said ______. Is that really what you meant?”
Here's the earliest, and hence best, explanation of the suit:
https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2022/08/psu-professor-critical-of-equity-initiatives-sues-to-force-uo-equity-twitter-account-to-unblock-him.html
Here's an update with more. Sad that you can't just post two urls...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/psu-professor-s-push-for-injunction-against-uo-after-he-was-blocked-from-its-equity-twitter-account-gets-new-life/ar-BB1jzDUZ
Um, where did you get the idea that you can't just post two urls?
https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2022/08/psu-professor-critical-of-equity-initiatives-sues-to-force-uo-equity-twitter-account-to-unblock-him.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/psu-professor-s-push-for-injunction-against-uo-after-he-was-blocked-from-its-equity-twitter-account-gets-new-life/ar-BB1jzDUZ
What you can't post are THREE.
I wonder whether tova stabin has any idea about why capitalisation. The court may well have decided to recognise her preferred spelling, but it is a different matter when it comes to the beginning of a sentence, where the convention of capitalisation is different. There should be only one exception to starting a sentence with a capital letter, and that is in the surname "ffolkes", where the double f is a conventional representation of an old capital F and so is already technically capitalised.
A name is a proper noun and hence MUST BE capitalized.
... or followed with [sic] which is Latin for "sic erat scriptum" -- that's how the idiot wrote it.
Does Tova Stabin know she is a sovereign citizen?
The Volokh Conspiracy is among the last places on Earth anyone would expect to find standard English, particularly with respect to capitalization. Random capitalization is a standard affectation among these clingers.
NO rules is a rule, you are right.
Stupid people who should have no say but have been given say because they went through the mill
Most Americans won't understand this, but as an alleged Brit you know there's a big difference between standing up for your rights and taking the piss.
The answer to any question which crosses that line is just "no".
You will be glad to know that when it started a sentence, her first name was capitalized. "Stabin’s appeal is DISMISSED."
Disaffected, obsolete clingers with a taste for colonialism and perhaps for white nationalism have rights, too.
And, at the Institute for Free Speech, big fans!
Suppose Twitter had suspended Gilley for a reason that was unrelated to UofO Equity.
Suppose @UOEquity Twitter account, tova stabin, had complained to Twitter that Gilley was a racist that was tweeting in a way that violated community standards, and in response Twitter had suspended Gilley.
All of this stems from the original Trump Rules decision that a politician or public agencies Twitter or Facebook feed was a forum for their own speech but a public forum for all.
Twitter and Facebook are public forums, but ones own page and stream are not and should not be considered public forums.
If someone is allowed to delete their account, or turn off comments then they should be allowed to curate responses, and block responders.
I believe this was an official UNIVERSITY account and not her own private one.
"or public agencies".
You have it backwards. The Trump social media decision rested on cases that had already found government actors' social media to be pubkmlic forums (under certain conditions).
William Fletcher. He was my professor for first year property at Berkeley. Interesting that he’s still around. So many of my professors are dead.
"We follow stabin's convention of not capitalizing her name.}" That convention, like preferred pronouns, is fluid, not static. She may change that convention tomorrow, which would require an update to this article. References to her should be in the accepted convention with a parenthetical that "her particular style is to writer her name in lower case as of the time this article was written."
It would be more humane to simply ignore it.
A persuasive person would not choose the Volokh Conspiracy as the forum at which to take a stand on random or affected capitalization.
Carry on, half-educated clingers!
This is federal court. They should use whatever her legal name is. Did she legally change her name to be lowercase (I really doubt her parents would have inflicted that on her)?
Hmm... According to the decision:
But according to the dissent:
So which is it? I think the timing matters as to mootness. There's a difference between fixing a problem as soon as you learn about it, and fixing a problem only after someone sues you for it.
Two months is not immediate. Someone on the court is being dishonest here.
My interpretation is that the dissent is saying that the University didn't know about stabin's action until Gilley filed the lawsuit. That depends on what it means for the University to know something, because at least one University employee, specifically stabin, knew about stabin's action prior to the lawsuit.
That was my thought, and it had to be more than one employee, because he wouldn't have just continually pestered Stabin, he'd have reached out to other people in the University administration.
So, how much of the University had to be aware of it? 100%?
It has to be somewhere in between "100% of the university has to know" and "every time any employee violates policy, the university by definition knows about it, because they're an employee".
If when Gilley "attempted to learn what policies governed his blocking" the person he contacted was just, like, a student worker manning the information desk, I don't think that would be enough either.
I don't think it makes a difference. Generally, you can't avoid an injunction just by stopping the offending conduct and promising not to do it again.
And as some courts say, if you are not going to do it again, then why should you care about an injunction?
> Generally, you can’t avoid an injunction just by stopping the offending conduct and promising not to do it again.
No, but on the other hand, there's no reason to issue an injunction in the first place if there's no reason to believe the behavior will repeat. And whether the university's response was "do nothing for 2 months, then unblock after he sues" or "unblock right away after we find out" tells me something about how sincere the university is.
Normally you tell someone to stop doing something before going to the courts for an injunction (unless there's good reason not to.) *If* he skipped that step and waited for 2 months before surprise-suing them, then he's basically wasting the court's time with something he likely could have solved with a demand letter.
And even if it doesn't ultimately matter to the case, it still matters if a federal appeals court judges is using dishonest framing in their decision.
>And as some courts say, if you are not going to do it again, then why should you care about an injunction?
Well, mostly because it's hard to stop individual employees from doing this. What's the university to do? Centralize all official social media accounts so only one person has access? That's inconvenient and inefficient, and what if whoever they put in charge of that blocks people anyway? They shouldn't have to take such measures unless it's truly a recurring problem.