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Remembering the Proper Role of the Supreme Court, As Taught at Harvard in the 1990s
A thought on the old days.
When I read reactions to the current Supreme Court from academics today, I'm often struck by the different way that the Supreme Court's proper role is spoken of today than when I was in law school from 1994 to 1997. I thought it might be interesting, at least to some readers, to share more about how the Supreme Court was spoken of back then.
I realize this approach is impressionistic. I'm going to discuss the prevailing sentiment as I encountered at one law school, Harvard Law School, at one period, in the mid-1990s. There were surely others who had different experiences, especially at different places. And I look forward to hearing about those experiences! But I thought it still might be interesting to relay the experience I had.
First, some context. When I was in law school, from 1994-97, the public law focus of the Harvard Law faculty was still largely about looking back at the Warren Court. I don't mean that that there was exclusive focus on the period from 1953 to 1969. Rather, I just mean that the main cases and major doctrinal turns in many areas of law were from or were rooted in that period, The Warren Court was still very much a presence.
Looking back on it, part of that dynamic reflected the faculty's experience. A typical middle-aged law professor in 1995 would have been in law school during the Warren Court. That Court probably had an outsized influence on their worldview. But it was also just a matter of doctrine. A lot changed in the 1960s, and making sense of law in the 1990s often meant having a view of what the Supreme Court did in that busy 1960s period.
The common attitude I remember was one of great enthusiasm for creative Supreme Court lawmaking. "It is a Constitution we are expounding," the argument ran, citing Chief Justice Marshall in McCulloch: it is "intended to endure for ages to come, and consequently, to be adapted to the various crises of human affairs." The Supreme Court was at its best in devising creative new rules to meet the needs of our modern society. Precedents on the books reflected the old world, not the new. So it was exciting, and entirely commendable, when the Court would replace old rules with better ones that reflected more modern values.
The central hero of this narrative, at least in most tellings, was Justice William Brennan. Justice Brennan was presented as a brilliant mastermind of the Warren Court for his uncanny ability to get five votes for new directions. With Brennan on the Court, especially in the 1960s, everything was on the table. You could get lots of needed change and, and you could get it quickly. This was an unalloyed good, the thinking ran. Brennan's ability to get the law changed ensured that the law could change for the better.
What if you happened to favor stare decisis, or you if thought that the role of the Supreme Court should not generally be to try to make the law better? The prevailing view was that these objections were wooden and narrow-minded. Any person of expected sophistication would realize that law is policy making; law is so flexible that it can mean anything. So if you thought the Supreme Court should just "follow precedents," rather than overturn them and start fresh in new and exciting directions, you were missing the indeterminacy and delightfully open texture of law. Such naive viewpoints, with their false sense of certainty, would be welcome at a Federalist Society chapter meeting. But such views weren't generally advocated in the classroom.
The notion that the Federalist Society would be associated with legal determinacy may seem odd today. But I recall it as significant strain of thinking at the time. Today, the Federalist Society is though to be largely about originalism. But remember the Federalist Society's statement of its own principles: "It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be." Back in the 1990s, that idea in italics had real meaning: Saying that judges should follow the law and not engage in creative exercises of new rulemaking was a dissenting view from the academy as a whole. It was an embrace of a view widely rejected as naive and small-minded.
My sense is that times have changed. But I thought it might be interesting to recall that old set of views, from three decades ago, to help think through those changes.
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Sounds like the Gene Roddenberry School of Law. Very of its time.
I attended an Ivy League law school about 10 years before Mr. Kerr, and the approach was more-or-less as he describes. The vacillations of earlier Courts (e.g., Lochner/West Coast Hotel) were viewed as momentary aberrations, and the decisions of the Warren Court were viewed (mostly) as 'finding the true path.'
Where I think things differ the most, however, is in the nature of objective analysis of judicial philosophy. Even in the late 80s, pre-Casey, pre-pretty much everything, liberal law professors had no difficulty discussing the legal and doctrinal weakness of some esteemed liberal decisions. When people in the last decade would say "Roe was accepted law," I would respond "what universe did you live in?" Very liberal profs in very liberal schools fully understood (and taught) the weaknesses in Roe. Careful analytical dissection of opinions was considered part of the process of becoming a lawyer.
Today, I fear that it's all politics, all the time. Does the decision accomplish result A, favoring group B? Everything flows from that in the current academic environment. Alas.
This rings true, which is why judicial review of constitutional matters, as a mode of lawmaking and of dispute resolution, may very well be finished.
Well, the Warren Court *did* make some good decisions, like *Brown,* incorporating most of the Bill of Rights, and protecting criminal suspects from evasions of (say) the 5th Amendment.
Of course, they didn't need penumbras and emanations to reach those results. The penumbra-and-emanation decisions were just plain silly.
"Penumbras and Emanations?"
"We don’t need no stinkin’ Penumbras and Emanations!"
Ehh, Brown is overrated for its result, not its reasoning. What if there weren't any psychological studies in the record? When it came to striking down other segregation laws after Brown, they just affirmed or reversed without opinion, as I remember.
Well, they could have just said what they were thinking, that separate but equal is an oxymoron invented for morons. Don't need any doll studies for that.
There will always be new questions requiring new law to apply to new facts.
My experience in the mid-late 2000s, taking a lot of the more jurisprudential classes (Constitutional law, 1st Amendment, jurisprudence, Constitutional and statutory interpretation, and Supreme Court seminar), was a lot less...pointed.
At my very liberal law school did a great job teaching all the different philosophies of how to approach the making of new law - minimalism, purposivism, common law precedential approaches, and originalism.
Brennan was taught with reverence by the Profs, but so was Scalia, as being effective in pushing their interpretive projects (if not always sticking to them).
The reputed liberalism came more in the 1) criminal law/innocence project, 2) international law, 3) Gay marriage, and 4) and critical theory.
A project to constitutionalize universal income or eliminate the 2nd Amendment wasn't really in the offing. Maybe in the critical theory class.
I wonder if Harvard and Yale go more into the broadly normative over descriptive as compared to lower tier schools.
At my very liberal law school did a great job teaching all the different philosophies of how to approach the making of new law – minimalism, purposivism, common law precedential approaches, and originalism.
If your very liberal law school was teaching you about the originalist approach to the making of new law, I feel you either weren't paying attention, or they didn't do that good a job. The whole point of originalism being that you're stuck with the original law. It doesn't change unless and until those entitled to change it, change it.
There will always be new questions requiring new law to apply to new facts.
No doubt. The appropriate way for that to be dealt with by the judiciary is to apply the old law to the new facts, until such time as the legislature becomes concerned that the old law is not doing a good enough job in the new circumstances, and decides to change it.
Just as we see in Alabama, where the legislature is all in a flutter to change the law, in response to a court ruling that concerned them.
You think that because I did not adopt originalism as my chosen method of interpretation, I was not taught it correctly?
1. I was not taught the everyone else is unamerican part of originalism, you are correct. I got to pick that up in the street.
2. You don’t know what teaching is.
You said that you were taught various philosophies of “ how to approach the making of new law.”
If you were taught the originalist philosophy correctly then it would have been a very brief class composed of a single word - “don’t !”
This class would have swept up any other philosophy that regards the judge’s role as that of a passive observer.
But if that’s what you were taught in that particular class, fine. What did you do for the rest of the day ?
You want indoctrination.
I'm asking what you were taught in the class specifically dedicated by your wonderful teachers to teach you the originalist philosophy on "how to approach the making of new law." And if, and if so how, they managed to keep it going for more than ten seconds.
They're the ones who chose that subject, not me.
And I certainly don't expect them to have taught the same thing in the class dedictated to the purposivist philosophy on "how to approach the making of new law." That I'm quite prepared to believe could have taken weeks.
Many methods of interpretation could say it's not making new law, but just revealing the existing law's new application. Originalism isn't special in that particular branding.
No, we were not taught that branding - I got to discover that some originalists were a special kind of asshole after that.
your wonderful teachers
This is you, being a special kind of asshole.
"If you were taught the originalist philosophy correctly then it would have been a very brief class composed of a single word – 'don’t !'"
You have a simplistic view of a complex subject. There's a reason professors and jurists treat it as nuanced, and it's not because they're all much stupider than you.
I was in Columbia in the mid-90s. I think the sense was that while the Warren era was the "good old days," there was a recognition that that era was passing, thanks to Rehnquist and Scalia.
I was in a top 25 law school from 1989 to 1992. The Warren Court inspired us. Justice for those less fortunate than us. Brown, Gideon, Miranda. Interns working for peanuts (or less) on social justice. My girlfriend there grew up in the segregated South and had been a first hand victim.
My how the law has changed.
"Justice for those less fortunate than us. ... My how the law has changed."
Wait a sec, I thought justice was supposed to be blind? You know: equal justice for all -- rich and poor, white and black, men and women, etc.? Didn't they teach you that?!
The Warren Court was an unmitigated disaster for the rule of law, for constitutional law, and for the very concept of judicial review. Its pernicious effects and attitudes permeated into other countries, too, unfortunately.
How many of the hero worshipers teaching at your alma mater, do you suppose, were regularly or even periodically confronted with genuine opposition to their heroes’ doings—particularly, critiques that DIDN’T come from political (left/right) rivals or opponents?
*Fundamental critiques of the Warren Court's M.O. and practices, rather than challenges to this or that particular case (or particular arguments therein)?
Tell us more, Comrade, of your take on the system of law of your sworn enemy nation!
There are now six civil servants who sit on the system's constitutional court!
Interesting. I didn't that impression at all whilst in law school. I attended the University of San Diego 1993-96 and I eventually came to realize that school tried real hard to recruit conservative thinkers. Mike Ramsey, former clerk to Justice Scalia and the founder of the Originalism Blog joined the faculty whilst I was there. The faculty also included Michael Rappaport, another big proponent of originalism. The students tended to be rather conservative too. San Diego is a big military town and there were numerous active military in my class and they seemed pretty conservative.
I came away from law school, con law and crim pro law especially, with an appreciation for different ways of reaching a legal decision. I do not remember any professor swooning at the good ol' days of the Warren Court. But I do recall that a couple of folks really enthusiastic proponents of originalism.
What really struck me was that proponents of originalism thought anything else was stupid. Scalia spoke at USD in '95 and his sense of intellectual superiority was infused in every sentence. He was asked whether he would have dissented in Brown v. Board of Education. While not saying yes, he certainly wasn't happy with the reasoning of the decision. Then Scalia authored his concurrence in Gonzalez v Raich and I lost all respect for him. He abandoned originalism and did exactly what he eviservated others for--starting with a conclusion and working backwards to find a justification. Don't even get me started about his use of originalism in Heller.
I still have a lot of respect for Mike Ramsey. He really is brilliant, patient and respectful. The best law professor I ever had and a tireless advocate for originalism. Rappaport on the other hand, looks at teaching as the only way he can fund his passion--spending countless hours researching to find that one quote that bolsters his foregone conclusion.
Raich is why many originalists think Clarence Thomas passed Scalia as the true voice of originalism.
Randy Barnett among them I suspect.
I could be misremembering, but I've gotta say that my experience at Chicago during nearly identical years (95-98) was nothing like this. The entire Elements class was about the pros and cons of what the Warren Court did v. other ways to determine law. And by that time Rehquist and Scalia were making inroads on Warren Court rulings, so much of the analysis was about how the law developed over time and why rather than who was right or wrong. That difference, plus your earlier tweet about "selling out" on the exam to give the professors the ideological answers they want to hear (something that never occurred to me in school) leads me to believe we attended very different law schools.
It was an embrace of a view widely rejected as naive and small-minded.
The Federalist Society's view was naive and small-minded, and remains so, and moreover nowadays it is transparently duplicitous, if not outright hypocritical, as conservative scholars increasingly toy with the idea that "the law as it is" includes a broader realm of natural law that "creative" jurists can draw upon in order to achieve desired outcomes.
Were Brown v. Board of Education, 347 U.S. 483, 74 S. Ct. 686 (1954), and Brown v. Board of Education, 349 U.S. 294, 75 S. Ct. 753 (1955), government by judiciary, or did the Warren Court overturn bad caselaw?
Artificial dichotomy.
Raoul Berger asked question.
Irrelevant.
From my perspective from outside the legal community is that the court transformed from legal progressivism of Holmes giving more weight to the legislature over text and tradition, to the New Deal court giving more weight to all levels of government (Wickard, Korematsu), then the Warren-Brennan Court looking to reach the right result regardless of the law (although Brown was certainly a more correct reading than Plessy), continued with the Warren Court with Duke Power and Roe, then finally a more conservative court with Rehnquist, but hardly full bore originalism. And since then the transition to an originalist dominated court where even the liberal justices are more concerned what the text says than their policy preferences.
The Warren Court could sometimes get out of control.
But don’t take my word for it – ask Earl Warren.
The Chief Justice dissented in a case where, if you’re eligible for welfare, you could move to a new state and could go on the dole at once without any waiting period.
Warren argued that Congress had legitimately limited welfare levels for recent migrants to a state. Alas, he couldn't make the broader argument that such matters were outside the judicial purview, because his activist attitude had foreclosed such an argument on his part.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/394/618/
This is a case of the revolution devouring its own.
Thanks for the look back.
I remember an observation from that time period. Once upon a time people would look at a problem and say "there ought to be a law!" In more modern times, people look at a problem and say "that's unconstitutional!"
Remember the title of Bork's memoir: The Tempting of America.
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Really?
That's advanced as an attempt to defend those who objected to decisions that diminished racism, misogyny, gay-bashing, abusive policing, environmental outrages, vote suppression, school prayer, segregated schools, and other elements of the "good old days" for which conservatives continue to pine?
Even at a white, male, right-wing blog that courts disaffected culture war casualties as a target audience, that is weak.
Foolish, parochial blob of AIDS.
You understand that, as you continue to lose this global culture war, not only will your form of judicial review but also the modes of 'activism' your preferred colour team undertakes will be deemed to be completely illegitimate and archaic by most of the world, yeah?