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Trump v. Anderson, Professor Akhil Reed Amar, and the Constitutionality of the Presidential Succession Act
Professor Amar's argument renders the presidential succession acts of 1792 and 1947 unconstitutional by barring putting the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President Pro Temper of the Senate in the line of succession to the presidency
Professors Akhil Reed Amar and David Vikram Amar argue that President Donald Trump is covered by the phrase in the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, that disqualifies a person who holds "any office *** under the United States" from being eligible to be elected President, if he has engaged in an insurrection, after swearing an oath to support the Constitution. The Amar brother's position is that the presidency is an "office *** under the United States", and that Donald Trump is disqualified from being elected President in 2024 even though the entire Republican Party overwhelmingly wants Trump to be their nominee.
The Incompatibility Clause of Article I, Section 6 says that "no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office." And, the Presidential Succession Clause of Article II, Section 1 says that in the event of a vacancy in both the presidency and the vice presidency "Congress may by Law [declare] what Officer [legislative or executive] shall then act as President." For most of American history, the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate have been ahead of the Cabinet in the line of succession to the presidency. That arrangement is as American as apple pie.
Under Professor Amar's theory that the President holds an Office under the United States for the purposes of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, it is unconstitutional for Congress to put the Speaker of the House of Representatives or the President Pro Tempore of the Senate in the line of succession to the Presidency, as Congress has done since 1947, because doing so would violate the Incompatibility Clause. (A Member of either House would unconstitutionally get to hold, simultaneously, their congressional seat and an Office under the United States while they served as Acting President).
In fact, the Presidential Succession Act of 1792, which was passed by the Second Congress, which was full of framers of the Constitution, and which was signed into law by President George Washington put legislative officers in the line of succession to the presidency because the Founding Fathers did not believe that the Presidency was an Office under the United States. The Founding Fathers discussed and debated this very question, and James Madison lost while making the exact same argument that the Amar brothers make as to Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment that the Presidency is an Office under the United States.
The Amar brothers think that our current setup of having legislative officers in the line of succession to the presidency is unconstitutional as they argued in print in Akhil Reed Amar & Vikram David Amar, Is the Presidential Succession Law Constitutional?, 48 Stanford Law Review 113 (1995-1996). I once agreed with the Amar brothers on this issue but have since changed my mind. I strongly doubt that the nine current justices of the Supreme Court realize that any ruling that Donald Trump is ineligible to be on the Colorado primary ballot will end up as a side-effect gutting the Presidential Succession law.
The Supreme Court in Trump v. Anderson should not hold that the Presidency is an office under the United States because, if it does so, the Presidential Succession Acts of both 1947, and of 1792, would be rendered unconstitutional, even though the Founding Fathers meant for legislative officers to be eligible to be put into the line of succession to the Presidency, and such legislative officers have been in the line of succession to the presidency for most of American history. The Amar brothers would repudiate 171 years of historical practice of legislative officers being in the line of succession to the presidency. It is far more democratic to put elected Speakers of the House of Representatives and Presidents Pro Tempore of the Senate in the line of succession to the Presidency than it is to put un-elected Cabinet Secretaries in the line of succession. The Amar brothers are just plain wrong in arguing that the President holds an "office *** under the United States" under Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment.
They are also wrong in Trump v. Anderson in calling on the Supreme Court to let each of the fifty States have their own rule as to what constitutes an "insurrection". The whole point of the Fourteenth Amendment was to rein in State power and to impose some uniform national rules. This is especially needed with rules concerning eligibility to hold national offices. See U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton, 514 U.S. 779 (1995); Powell v. McCormack, 395 U.S. 486 (1969). Letting 1,000 flowers bloom on the fifty State Supreme Courts, as to presidential eligibility requirements, is more likely to produce a weed garden than it is the Rose Garden.
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IANAL, but I always assumed that if any Congress Critter became President, they would automatically cease to be a Congress Critter, an automatic resignation, because it would be an obvious conflict of interest. Same as, say, a Senator or Governor running for President. I have never heard of any of them remaining in office if they won the Presidential election.
Seems to me this whole screed is based on something that no one has ever done or even contemplated.
I mean, hell, no Vice President has ever remained Vice President when the President died in office.
I have a vague notion that there might be a difference between temporarily acting as President and taking over as actual President. In the former case you might want to hang on to your day job.
I’m aware of the 25th Amendment (or whichever one it is) but that is quite clearly short term.
I assumed this is all about Presidents dying in office and who takes over, same permanent effect as a Governor or Senator running for President while still holding down their day job.
If Calabresi is really saying this is about the 25th Amendment or whatever that is, then I think the argument is even dumber. That’s probably why IANAL, and everyone can Thank God for that.
Like when he says this:
That sure sounds permanent, not temporarily while having surgery.
But how about his part:
"No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for
which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office
under the Authority of the United States, which shall have
been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been
encreased during such time"
If there are annual cost of living increases that means no Senator or Congressman could succeed to the Presidency?
If you did it cost of living increases in 2 year increments you could make that work for Congressman, and 1/3 of senators.
Or you going to assert a congressman is neither elected or appointed to replace a president when both dies? I'm not sure there is an exact word for it, but it does certainly blow the elected v appointed controversy up, because now we have a third method for obtaining office covered by neither word.
I believe the workaround for this in the past has been to have the member of Congress assume their new role at the previous (lower) pay rate, and only begin receiving the higher pay after their term in Congress would have ended. IIRC this was done for Hillary when Obama nominated her Secretary of State.
Thats a fix not a workaround. And it requires an act of Congress to reduce the salary, but even that doesn't meet the letter of of the constitution.
And if Congress doesn't rollback the salary the designated person can't take the job.
If Biden and Harris both die in a terrorist attack would Chuck Schumer pass a bill to reduce the presidents Salary so Mike Johnson can be President, or would he refuse so Anthony Blinkin becomes the President?
This is incorrect. Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State and received the prior salary without an act of Congress. The same is true for Justice Black when he was appointed to the Supreme Court after serving as senator.
It's about Article 2 Section 1, where Congress is given power to set up rules for succession.
“declaring what Officer shall then act as President“.
The idea is, this implies that you have to be an officer to be in the line of succession. (If you're not an officer, then you can't be an officer who then access president.)
That's explicitly what the Amar Brothers have argued since the mid-90s.
There's also the question of whether "acting" as president is the same as "being" president. IIRC this is what led to the 25th amendment declaring the vice president "shall become" president upon the death, removal, or resignation of the president. One could argue that merely acting as president doesn't trigger the incompatibility clause because the person isn't actually holding the office of president.
Beyond that I agree with Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf, in that actually assuming (being sworn in to) the office of president requires resignation from Congress, whether automatic upon taking the presidential oath, or requiring one to officially resign before being allowed to take the oath.
The Supreme Court in Trump v. Anderson should not hold that the Presidency is an office under the United States because, if it does so, the Presidential Succession Acts of both 1947, and of 1792, would be rendered unconstitutional, even though the Founding Fathers meant for legislative officers to be eligible to be put into the line of succession to the Presidency, and such legislative officers have been in the line of succession to the presidency for most of American history.
This is not a good reason. A parade of horribles is never a good reason. And one small implication (just skip over the legislative officers and move on down - oh noes !) hardly counts as even a single "horrible."
Look at the text. And the context. If you've done that till you're bleeding from the ears, and confess yourself still puzzled, then and only then may you look at past practice, especially around the foundation, for some clues.
And if as a judge you base your decision on such ephemera, then you should pass judgment with great humility confessing yourself dissatisfied and hestitant to rely on mere fluff, rather than good solid text.
Except you have to look at the understanding of Congress when they enact a contradictory statute like the presidential succession act.
You've got two choices, was Congress wrong when they enacted it?
Or is your understanding of the constitution wrong when you are interpreting it?
If Congress can go 230+ years misunderstanding the constitution when devising presidential succession plans, then you have a once in over 200 years situation that requires reevaluating 230 years of duly passed laws then maybe your interpretation is wronf , not Congress'.
The statute is not contradictory. When the Vice President becomes Acting President upon the death of the President, they cease to be Vice President. The same would be true of the Speaker of the House. Any other result would violate separation of powers principles, which is not an intention that is reasonable to project on the Founders.
It seems pretty clear that in order to serve as President, a Speaker of the House or Senate President Pro Tempore would have to resign from Congress and a new one would have to be selected. The same occurs if a member of Congress is appointed to be a cabinet member or a judge.
Why is this a big deal? Mr. Calabresi’s argument that a member of Congress is completely ineligible to serve as President and hence the Presidential Succession Act is unconstitutional, is incompatible with the well-established history of members of Congress being appointed to cabinet positions and the like. They simply resign from Congress before they start their new position. There’s a very well-established past practice that makes clear there is no constitutional problem. This would be no different.
Correct. The notion that a person can simultaneously serve as President and as Speaker of the House would violate separation of powers and bring America dangerously close to an authoritarian nation.
It is inappropriate to attach such an intention to our Founders.
There may not have to be any resignation involved. The Vice President doesn’t have to resign being Vice President before becoming President, entering one office automatically exits the other. The same may be true of other people in the line of succession.
"That arrangement is as American as apple pie."
Not so fast . . . apple juice labels can inform one to question the above sentence, "May contain apples from, . . ., China, . . ..
This has been so for over 20 years.
"Under Professor Amar's theory that the President holds an Office under the United States for the purposes of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, it is unconstitutional for Congress to put the Speaker of the House of Representatives or the President Pro Tempore of the Senate in the line of succession to the Presidency, as Congress has done since 1947, because doing so would violate the Incompatibility Clause. (A Member of either House would unconstitutionally get to hold, simultaneously, their congressional seat and an Office under the United States while they served as Acting President)."
Nonsense. It just means the Speaker, upon taking office as President, is no longer a member of Congress.
That's how The West Wing handled it! The Speaker had to resign from Congress to take over the presidency, temporarily, after the 25th amendment was invoked. (The vice presidency was vacant at the time.)
How does one write such gibberish? All history shows it to be false.
When one takes over as president, one ceases to be a member of congress
period
Read the Presidential Succession Clause (Article II, Section 1, Clause 6). The officer is to "act as President" rather become President. The Presidential powers and duties are temporarily added to whatever office that person is holding.
The first two succession acts (1792 and 1886) reflected this fact, as does the 25th Amendment, but the current succession act confuses the issue by referring to the officer as "Acting President" but has him take the oath of office. Read the Amar brothers article for why the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 is an unconstitutional mess that needs to be replaced.
When the Vice President becomes Acting President upon death of the President, they cease to be Vice President.
The same would be true of the Speaker of the House. Any contrary result would obviously violate separation of powers.
When the Vice President becomes Acting President upon death of the President, they cease to be Vice President.
Acting President means the Vice President temporarily discharges the responsibilities and has the powers of the President. That person is still Vice President, meaning that person would still succeed to the presidency if the President died. If the President dies, the Vice President becomes President. Contrast Section 1 of the 25th Amendment with Sections 3 and 4 thereof. The Constitution never refers to anyone else further down the line of succession as becoming President, only that such a person "act as President." That means such a person still holds his original office while having the powers and duties of the presidency. When it comes to the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate, as you said, that "would obviously violate separation of powers." This is why the Presidential Succession Act is an unconstitutional disaster in waiting.
The 'that means' part of your comment is baloney
you made that up, it says it nowhere
If the President is dead, the next in line becomes President and they are no longer their former office.
Vice President is no longer VP, they are President. There is no VP until the pick one and that person is confirmed.
I got it, you're a mental brick wall.
To everyone else, read the Amar brothers' article. It explains this issue in great detail.
I got it you are an fool.
You make things up and expect people to go along with it because, you know traitortrump is god
Nothing I said had anything to do with Trump and no man is a god, though sadly many leaders of groups and countries throughout history have thought of themselves as gods. The result is always mass murder of nightmarish proportions.
You mean "brothers'" when you write "The Amar brother's position . . ."
As I recall the All Writs portion of the judiciary act of 1789, adopted by the First Congress, was declared unconstitutional in Marbury. In light of that the author’s reliance on the Second Congress seems misplaced.
This is wrong on its own terms. Speakers of the House and PPTs of the Senate were indeed elected, but they were not elected by the American public to be president; they were elected by small segments of the public (a district or state) to be legislators. The fact that they were democratically elected for a small role does not make it “democratic” for them to be chosen for an entirely different role by and for people who had no say in electing them.
“Ah,” you may respond, “but after they were elected by a small segment of the public they were then chosen by legislators collectively elected nationwide, representing the whole public, to become Speaker or PPT.”
But that doesn’t work as a rebuttal, because so were cabinet secretaries! Cabinet secretaries were first nominated by someone elected nationwide (the president) and then confirmed by the entire senate (elected nationwide collectively).
Moreover, when the presidential election was held, the public elected a member of one party to become president. The vice president is from that same party. The cabinet secretaries are, generally speaking, also from that party (or have at least signed on to that party’s agenda). But a Speaker or PPT could easily be from the other party. Is it really “far more democratic” to allow the White House to entirely flip party control from that chosen by the electorate, based on nothing more than some untimely deaths?
(That’s setting aside the unfortunate incentives in permitting such flipping to occur.)
Critically the succession clause states that congress can designate who will **act** as president. Simple solution: the president is an officer. An acting president need not be.