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Fifth Circuit Grants En Banc Rehearing to Case Where Texas Claims Immigration and Drug Smuggling Qualify as "Invasion"
The court could potentially resolve the case without addressing the invasion arguments.

Earlier today, the US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit granted rehearing en banc in United States v. Abbott, a case where the federal government is suing the state of Texas for installing floating buoy barriers in the Rio Grande River to block migration and drug smuggling, thereby creating safety hazards and possibly impeding navigation. The Biden Administration claims this violates the Rivers and Harbors Act of 1899. Texas has a different interpretation of the Act, but also argues that one of the "invasion" clauses of the Constitution gives it the power to install the buoys even if a federal statute forbids it. Article I, Section 10, Clause 3 of the Constitution states that "[n]o state shall, without the Consent of Congress, . . . engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."Texas contends that illegal migration and drug smuggling qualify as "invasion," and therefore the Constitution gives the state the power to take military action in response in defiance of federal statues, and even in the absence congressional authorization for war.
Both the trial court and the Fifth Circuit panel ruled against Texas on statutory grounds, and also rejected the "invasion" argument. The case will now be reconsidered by the full Fifth Circuit, including all 17 active judges on the court (a majority of whom are conservatives). En banc rehearing usually - but not invariably - means that the full court wants to overturn or at least significantly modify the ruling of the initial three-judge panel.
Texas' petition for rehearing en banc largely focuses on the statutory question. But the en banc court could potentially consider the "invasion" issue, as well. The latter is the main focus of my concern with the case, as it has broad implications that go far beyond the water buoy issue.
In previous writings about the case, and claims that illegal migration and drug smuggling qualify as invasion, I have explained why such contentions are badly wrong as a matter of text and original meaning, and why accepting them would set a dangerous precedent empowering states to engage in war without congressional authorization, and the federal government to suspend the writ of habeas corpus at virtually any time it wants. Whatever the en banc court decides on the statutory question, I hope it will not go down this dangerous road.
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The only questionable ruling I saw in the trial court's decision related to navigability of the Rio Grande. There may be a majority of the Fifth Circuit ready to rule that the judge clearly erred when finding it was navigable at the location in question.
And that was indeed Texas's leading argument in its en banc petition -- as Ilya (almost) admits, they didn't say a word about his "invasion" issue so there's no particular reason to believe the full 5th Circuit would take it up.
Does the District Court order to move the barrier remain in effect? The panel decision dissolved the administrative stay of the order. The en banc order vacated the panel decision. But in statutory construction, repealing law A that repealed law B does not reinstate law B.
The parties are tiffing about that as we speak. Just today the feds filed this brief in the district court case detailing the disagreement over whether the stay is still in effect, and asking the court to clarify. It appears to have "crossed in the mail" with the en banc grant (hard to happen in reality with electronic filing/notifications, but giving them the benefit of the doubt since the motion doesn't mention the en banc order).
Texas argued in its en banc petition: "Because the panel did not issue its mandate forthwith but rather will do so on January 23, 2024, Appellants do not interpret the panel’s opinion to require any immediate action pending this Court’s decision on the current petition. To the extent the Court disagrees, Appellants request immediate reinstatement of the administrative stay of the district court’s preliminary injunction to prevent harm to the State pending this Court’s further review." That makes sense to me, since the panel's order doesn't take effect until the issuance of the mandate (precisely for this sort of reason). The en banc order doesn't mention the stay but does of course explicitly stay the mandate, so we'll see if that quiets down the lower court dispute.
There is more evidence of an “invasion” along the Texas - Mexico border than there was of an “insurrection” on 1/6.
You, Kristian H., are the precise target audience of this blog.
And a substantial reason the employers of this blog's law professors regret hiring the Volokh Conspirators.
...and you were so close.
Better luck next time!
In other invasion news, it seems that the Border Patrol lied about the recent drownings in Texas discussed here Monday:
"According to the Justice Department’s filing Monday, the deaths occurred at 8 p.m. Friday, an hour before U.S. federal agents were notified by Mexican counterparts." Biden administration asks Supreme Court to intervene in its dispute with Texas over border land By VALERIE GONZALEZ Associated Press January 16, 2024, 2:11 PM
TNG time machine apparently not working to save them.
True – numerous commentators continued to condemn the Texas authorities even after the red flags in the story were pointed out. Though as of late yesterday very few news organizations corrected their errors.
Yes, the chin-stroking "disinformation" crowd that piously intones platitudes like "a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes" is eerily silent at times like this when it actually happens.
I dare you to post a single link with an incorrect description of the incident.
https://www.voanews.com/a/migrants-drown-at-border-amid-dispute-between-texas-white-house-/7439200.html
"A woman and two children drowned in the Rio Grande as they tried to the enter the U.S. from Mexico on Friday night after Texas military officers prevented federal border officials from going to their aid, according to local media and U.S. Representative Henry Cuellar."
When did Texas prevent federal border officials from going to the aid of immigrants? Days prior.
I agree it's ambiguous but a) not something that came from the Border Patrol as Bob suggested (apparently they told Texas at the time that Mexico had already reported them dead) but rather is sloppy writing and b) ambiguity can be misleading and should be corrected but isn't a lie.
Randal - it was written intentionally to be misleading -
You dishonesty / repetitive dishonesty has gotten very old.
You just made that up. You have no idea if it was written to be intentionally misleading. To the extent this was broadly echoed across the media, it seems especially unlikely that each outlet was intentionally trying to mislead. Seems more like a game of telephone from story to story. And they all fixed it. Something you've been notably unwilling to do with your lie about the Border Patrol.
I don't get it.
What part dont you get?
The border patrol lied about the facts of the drowning so that they could falsely blame the Texas authorities?
Or that you dont get why everyone would repeat a bogus story with huge red flags because it fit the narrative even after it was pointed out the border patrol lied. ?
What was the lie?
variations of the following news story was reported by most every news organization in the US.
Later that night, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said three migrants — a woman and two children — drowned after Texas officials "physically barred" Border Patrol agents from entering Shelby Park. Mexican authorities pulled the bodies from the water on the other side of the Rio Grande.
The truth was that the drownings occurred on the mexican side of the Rio approximately one hour before the mexican authorities notified any US affiliated authority.
I think we're gonna need a bit more corroboration than that.
But, both sets of facts cannot be true (at least, not outside MAGA land.)
obviously not attempting to learn the facts
Bob of Ohio already provided the link
“According to the Justice Department’s filing Monday, the deaths occurred at 8 p.m. Friday, an hour before U.S. federal agents were notified by Mexican counterparts.” Biden administration asks Supreme Court to intervene in its dispute with Texas over border land By VALERIE GONZALEZ Associated Press January 16, 2024, 2:11 PM
So the whole confusion is around the word "after?" Who cares, how does that even matter?
I can't find any articles that even say that! Maybe they've been edited, but really they say things like:
Two children and a woman drowned in the Rio Grande, authorities say, days after Texas blocked the feds amid migrant crisis
That is, the "after" refers to after the blocking began, not after these particular Border Patrol agents were blocked.
Randal who is also not attempting to learn the facts
Bob of Ohio already provided the link
“According to the Justice Department’s filing Monday, the deaths occurred at 8 p.m. Friday, an hour before U.S. federal agents were notified by Mexican counterparts.” Biden administration asks Supreme Court to intervene in its dispute with Texas over border land By VALERIE GONZALEZ Associated Press January 16, 2024, 2:11 PM
Are you retarded? That's the true version. Where's a link to a false version?
Oh, there isn't one. You guys just made up a bunch of dumb bullshit as per usual.
Randal - Lets be a jerk when 2 other people above have posted the false version
Yes, they're not as retarded as you. Anyway, still nothing to indicate that "the border patrol lied."
But lots to indicate that you and Bob lied.
Instead of continuing to run your mouth up here, you could of course actually stop ignoring the two before/after examples I posted immediately below. Just a thought -- you do you!
Yes, they've all stealth edited by now. One example of the original take here -- there are many more.
Now updated to:
Original here:
Now updated to:
That's quite enough to make the point. Feel free to pop any other current story you like into archive.is yourself and see how deep the rot goes.
LoB - time to skip it - Randal, like so many of his brothers, is not even trying to have an honest discussion.
This is completely true:
Texas “physically barred” Border Patrol agents from trying to rescue migrants who drowned, federal officials say
This is misleading but not false:
Three migrants drown in Rio Grande after Texas blocks Border Patrol from rescue
(Texas blocked the Border Patrol days prior.)
Anyway none of that seems attributable to the Border Patrol. Do you have anything suggesting that "the Border Patrol lied" vs. the media picked up on and misconstrued something someone (probably Rep. Cuellar) said along the way?
Randal - waste of time getting into discussion with a liberal who is intentionally dishonest.
Oh, you got caught with your pants down and are too embarrassed to own up. Ok that’s ok.
(Also no dishonesty here. Nothing I've said is dishonest -- quite unlike your "the Border Patrol lied" lie.)
You're really going to try to rehabilitate this? The now-admitted reality is they had already drowned an hour before Border Patrol agents even knew of them. There was nobody to "try to rescue" at that point.
"Misleading but not false" -- whee! "Oh, we didn't SAY they drowned because BP couldn't get past those Texas assholes to save them -- we just said some very careful words that we knew would make readers THINK THAT [and rebroadcast it ad nauseam]."
So that technique is all cool now? Across the board? Same standard for everyone?
Brian as a 911 dispatcher:
Caller: My husband’s having a heart attack! I think he’s dead!
Brian: [click]
In the real world, you still attempt the rescue.
So that technique is all cool now? Across the board? Same standard for everyone?
That has been the standard for quite a while now. Anyway as I said above, “ambiguity can be misleading and should be corrected.” Which they did.
Now when are you going to apply your penchant for the truth to Bob and Tom’s claim that “the Border Patrol lied?” Or are outright lies ok in your book as long as they’re pointed in the right direction?
Here's the thing: I've seen at least a dozen versions of that fake news story, all of them attributing the lie to the Border Patrol/Homeland Security, but none of them actually linking to the statement they relied on, or giving a direct quote embodying the lie.
I think it's quite possible that the Border patrol wrote a statement that maybe implied the lie if read the right way, but was careful not to actually lie out right. And that the media supplied the difference.
Given your rectal-cranial inversion, you never will.
Thanks for conceding.
Bob didn't post this in the previous open thread because he didn't know it at the time.
Which leaves Bob, and Ed, and Tom, and LoB, all believing they were defending taking positive action that ensures illegals to die.
I do disagree with Randal - I was mislead. But I also don't think that's material to the horrible shit some of you are willing to continence being done to these unpersons.
Never mind re: disagreeing with Randal. I was deceived; that doesn't mean I think it was purposefully deceitful.
The writeups I saw that left an incorrect impression is well within the range of chaos for a new and developing story.
As was evident from my flippant comments, I only had a passing interest in this story, but I was already sceptical for two reasons. First, the rather opportune involvement of the Democratic Congressman. Second, the cited timings were oddly vague. And speaking of timing, we had just read about the federal lawsuit and the strange State vs. Fed confrontation/theater taking place at the Texas border. Coincidence?
Still, I'm not going to take the mainstream rightwing press' accounts as true any more than I would the mainstream leftwing press' accounts as true. Neither has a monopoly on truth, and each has an incentive to lie.
Democrats lie to us; Republicans lie to themselves.
If this is an invasion, it is by people who are harder working and more law abiding than the average Texan.
Speaking of piously intoning platitudes....
I don't think you know the definition of "platitude".
I was just stating facts.
No Capt - you were not stating any facts - nor did you attempt to state any facts , certainly not thruthful facts.
From the Cato Institute:
“The results are similar to our other work on illegal immigration and crime in Texas. In 2018, the illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 782 per 100,000 illegal immigrants, 535 per 100,000 legal immigrants, and 1,422 per 100,000 native‐born Americans. The illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 45 percent below that of native‐born Americans in Texas.”
It took 27 seconds for me to find this. I suggest you do some research of your own before you comment.
You fucktard. They are all criminals when they've entered the country illegally.
Incorrect. Illegal immigration isn't criminal.
Under some circumstances, illegal entry into the United States carries (relatively minor) criminal penalties. 8 U.S.C. § 1325.
That's always been confusing to me since in 1990 they removed the language making it criminal... "be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof."
(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penaltiesAny alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
Randal - its Nice to know you are not an attorney
Another rousing meeting of Libertarians For Authoritarian, Bigoted, and Cruel Immigration Policies and Practices, convened at the leading website for faux libertarian conservatives and sponsored by Christianity.
Carry on, clingers.
The average Texan breaks the law every time he or she drives. What you are really saying is that to you, the speed limit law doesn't count, but immigration laws do. Including the ones that an immigrant "breaks" when he turns in his paperwork to renew his stay on time, but the INS goes past the deadline in processing the paperwork.
I certainly should hope it would take you far less than 27 seconds to blunder into one of Alex Nowrasteh’s Somin-worthy propaganda pieces.
As rather patiently explained here, his and other activists’ wishful thinking is in no small part driven by their use of statistics based on Texas DPS’s categorization at prisoner intake of legal vs. illegal status, when the presumption for all prisoners is legal and it can take years for an investigation to conclude otherwise:
Not a reputable source.
Have you tried to get your “methodology” published in a peer reviewed journal ?
Cato policy briefs are published in a peer reviewed journal? Please go on.
Even setting that silliness aside, it's amusing how you throw out rosy numbers and then retreat to a raw appeal to authority when the numbers turn demonstrably inconvenient.
I’d feel better about your article if it didn’t appear in a publication next to articles like “Survey of Tribal Atrocities in Shithole Countries” and “Mexican Babies Snort Cocaine for Breakast”.
And that's literally the ONLY study that says that, so Cato, Reason, the liberal left, etc all quote that one study as if it's the only holy grail out there - because it is.
Only research? Did you bother to check for one second?
https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2014704117
Comparing crime rates between undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants, and native-born US citizens in Texas
Michael T. Light, Jingying He, and Jason P. Robey
We make use of uniquely comprehensive arrest data from the Texas Department of Public Safety to compare the criminality of undocumented immigrants to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens between 2012 and 2018. We find that undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes. In addition, the proportion of arrests involving undocumented immigrants in Texas was relatively stable or decreasing over this period. The differences between US-born citizens and undocumented immigrants are robust to using alternative estimates of the broader undocumented population, alternate classifications of those counted as “undocumented” at arrest and substituting misdemeanors or convictions as measures of crime.
If you read the CIS report on categorization errors in this sort of research, that Life of Brian linked to up above, you’ll find that it wasn’t just about Nowrasteh’s study, but also cited the study you’re appealing to as having the exact same error!
“PNAS. A 2020 study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) also claimed low rates of illegal immi- grant crime based on Texas DPS data.6 Lead author Michael Light, a sociologist at UW-Madison, found that felony arrest rates for illegal immigrants were half that of the “native-born”. His study has been favorably cited by the federal government in response to lawsuits filed by the state of Texas over illegal immigration.
But Light makes the same mistake as Nowrasteh in treating illegals as fully identified by DHS at intake, even though DCJ will go on to identify more illegals who are initially placed in the DPS “other/unknown” category.
Unlike Nowrasteh, Light then relies on unverified claims made by arrestees about their citizenship and place of birth to both supplement the “legal” arrest category and create a “native-born” category. Not appreciating that arrestees of any claimed status could turn out to be DCJ-identified illegal immigrants, Light inadvertently places some illegals in his “legal” or even “native-born” categories. This is perhaps why he reaches the doubtful conclusion (opposite to Cato’s) that legal immigrants commit crimes at higher rates than illegal immigrants.”
In other words, the study you cite was listing people as legal or native born if they said they were, even if it was subsequently established they'd been lying.
I'm not really equipped to address that particular issue. I could dig in and try and figure, but don't feel like that lift.
So I didn't address it.
Instead, the post I replied to said: "And that’s literally the ONLY study that says that, so Cato, Reason, the liberal left, etc all quote that one study as if it’s the only holy grail out there – because it is."
That's obviously incorrect.
Yes, he was wrong about that: More than one study has made the exact same obvious error.
And if you correct for the error? Yeah, illegal aliens clearly have a higher crime rate than people here legally, and not by a small margin.
Mind you, Somin is going to continue claiming the contrary, regardless.
Does it inflame your hemorrhoids to talk out of your ass as often as you do?
All the more reason to repel the invasion. Texans do not want to be replaced.
I guess this is a law or lawmaking history question for any lawyers or buffs or historians out there: have the precise definitions of words always been a sticky subject in the law and the interpretation of it? If so, why aren’t words more routinely defined for the purposes of a specific law or statute? Or is this a modern preoccupation? I can see where maybe our Founders assumed that everyone knew what “invasion” or “insurrection” meant, but knowing what I know about the (even-to-this-day) disagreements that went into the making of our founding documents, this seems unlikely.
It seems like all modern contracts often define precisely what they mean by a word. Why don’t laws?
Some certainly do. Like Section 63(12) of the New York Executive laws, which includes a definition of “fraudulent”, which unfortunately fails to please Trumpcionadoes because it doesn’t include a requirement for “harm”. So they complain about the definition.
They can’t win, basically.
The section of the river in at issue is unquestionably not “navigable”. Its depth fluctuates from completely dry to three feet, depending on the weather and time of year. The majority of the Fifth Circuit panel that ruled for the federal government got around this by stating that the river had “historically” been navigable, citing a 1975 Army Corps of Engineers that, in fact, did not say that. It also wrote that the section of river could be made navigable. Well, perhaps, at tremendous cost and environmental impact, but by that reasoning, every inch of land in the United States could be a “navigable” waterway. In any context that didn’t involve immigration, Somin would be outraged by such an assertion.
Beyond that, one would imagine that an immigration enthusiast like Somin would actually want migrants to cross safely at ports of entry, which this barrier encourages. Illegal border crossers used to run from Border Patrol. Under the current regime, they run to them, because they know they will be processed and released into the United States. Those migrants who wish to avoid the Border Patrol, for the most part, should really trouble people, because they probably have bad intentions.
Whoa! You are coming dangerously close to admitting that illegal aliens are mostly well-intentioned, and do not pose a threat to the good citizens of Rock Ridge after all. We can't have that!
Of course, most immigrants are "well intentioned." But, (a) even if 95% of the 10 million+ migrants that have entered this country under Biden have good intentions, that's still a lot of people with bad intentions; and (b), just because someone has good intentions, that does not necessarily make his actions "harmless" to others. For example, a massive increase in the supply of labor drives down wages. And there is the obvious over-taxing of government resources expended on immigrants, resources that would otherwise be directed elsewhere.
Too bad House Republicans are too busy with bogus investigations and infighting to do anything about it.
Maybe they learned their lesson from abortion: better not solve any problems or their voters won't have any reason to vote for them.
Congress has done its duty. It has passed immigration laws that the President is sworn to enforce. But he simply refuses to do so. There has never been such a gross dereliction by a President in American history.
It would be the equivalent of a Republican president saying he wanted to replace the income tax with a sales tax, Congress not giving him what he wants, so the President refuses to collect income taxes. If anyone complained, he would simply shrug, saying, "The system is broken; Congress must act." Of course, Republicans would join Democrats to impeach and remove such a President within a week.
Is Biden supposed to use his own money? Congress needs to appropriate sufficient funds. It's an unfunded mandate at the moment. There was a whole SCOTUS case about it.
You are doing a fine job of filling in for GaslightO.
Finally you have something nice to say!
Money for what? If he won't enforce the law, no amount of money will change anything. He views the Border Patrol as a concierge service for border crossers. Any increase in funding will only be used to process and release migrants faster. Lack of money has never been an issue before. Lack of will, not lack of funding, is the problem.
Man are you uninformed! How embarrassing for you.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-954_7l48.pdf
Moreover, since its enactment, every Presidential administration has interpreted section 1225(b)(2)(C) as purely discretionary, notwithstanding the consistent shortfall of funds to comply with section 1225(b)(2)(A).
Biden is detaining all the people he’s been given the money to detain. He'd love to detain more people, but Congress won't cough up the cash. Just what law do you think he’s not enforcing?
Do you not understand the meaning of "discretionary"? Do you not understand the meaning of "law"? You just cited a couple. So, he's exercising his "discretion" not to enforce a law. And curiously, nothing about lack of funds in the argument.
It's like a district attorney who refuses to prosecute anyone, at his "discretion", and when people complain about rising crime, he says he needs more money. Nobody would accept such an asinine excuse. Well, almost nobody, apparently.
To clarify, when I say "Biden", I mean the people actually running things in the Biden administration, not titular President Joe Biden, a barely sentient vegetable who barely knows who or where he is. And despite the "constant shortfall of funds", no other President in history has felt it necessary to throw the border wide open.
Do you not understand the meaning of “discretionary”?
Hahaha oh lordy, that's a good one.
He's exercising his discretion to not enforce border laws like a traffic cop exercising his speed limit discretion by handing out free nitro kits to the more lead footed drivers.
He isn't limiting it to failure to enforce, or else he wouldn't be in this fight with Texas. He's affirmatively helping illegal immigration.
He’s exercising his discretion to not enforce border laws like a traffic cop exercising his speed limit discretion by handing out free nitro kits to the more lead footed drivers.
That's not happening; just check the USCIS numbers.
But it is what you *feel* is happening. And you're willing to speculate whatever you need to align your feelings with reality.
"That’s not happening; just check the USCIS numbers."
The God damn USCIS numbers are my basis for saying that. Encounters up five-fold, and most of the encounters NOT leading to deportation.
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Nobody told right-wing dumbass F.D. Wolf about January 6?
Too bad you're too busy letting black men peg you.
Your gay sex fantasies are getting more particular, huh Chuck.
Opinions are not permanent: perhaps illicit immigration -- hoards of not-yet-armed and not yet-organized citizens of other nations pouring over our borders and sapping our resources to the degree that that nation's largest cities are crying for assistance -- is currently an invasion, but perhaps in the future the situation might change for the better.
If illegal immigration is so beneficial, wouldn't cities be crying for more immigrants rather than funding for mitigation?
There is plenty of middle ground between invasion and beneficial.
And, as we've learned with Medicaid funding, plenty of middle ground between beneficial and what's politically viable to ask for.
The text of any law is supposed to be interpreted under it's ordinary meaning, and the intent when the law was drafted.
However, now some courts have now gone beyond the meaning of "sex" to mean "gender identity", have re-defined Civil War sized insurrections to include a local riot, so there's no reason why we can't re-invent the meaning of the term "invasion".
I think you're conflating statutes and the Constitution.
But your 'liberals bad so it's OK for me to discard my principles' is noted.
Statutes and the Constitution are both law, Sarcastr0. So there's nothing to conflate here.
Oh, you can, and you no doubt will. As Sarcasrt0 alluded to, that's what having no actual principles allows you to do. Enjoy!
The original meaning of constitutional language is sometimes inconvenient for conservatives. The United States had (nearly) completely open immigration from the founding through most of the 19th century.
Clearly this wasn’t considered an “invasion” back then. And if it wasn’t considered an invasion back then, why shoukd it be considered one now?
Because people you invite into your house and people who come into your house are not the same.
(I'm not addressing the pros or cons of immigration, but laws change: 'the speed limit on this road used to be 70!' isn't a defense against a speeding ticket if the limit is now 60.)
Sure, and the protestations of immigration maximalists like Ilya notwithstanding, the law should be enforced or it should be changed. At the same time, calling violation of a regulation on activity that was unregulated and welcomed for half the country's history an "invasion" is demagoguery.
Who can forget these famous words:
"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame."
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
"But STOP right there,
you invaders, you.
We who built this country,
(excluding, of course, you and you and you),
don't want your kind here.
Stop invading! We don't want to be you."
(I may have added that last bit.)
A poem is not a law.
The difficulty with that argument is that under our federal system as it’s been interpreted by the courts, Texas doesn’t do either the inviting or the keeping out. Immigration laws aren’t Texas’. What’s it to Texas whether Uncle Sam puts out a welcome sign or puts up a no trespassing sign but lets people in anyway? Why does the sign Uncle Sam puts up make any difference to how this affects Texas? It doesn’t change what people are doing. It isn’t for Texas to welcome or not welcome immigrants. The fact that people in Texas would really like Uncle Sam to have a different policy doesn’t change the basic character of what immigrants are doing.
As I mention below, one could argue that a state veto over migration (as opposed to importation) should have survived the 13th Amendment, immigration should be limited to only those each state thinks proper to admit, and that federal permission to enter the country shouldn’t imply permission to enter the states that don’t want it.
But that’s not the system we have. At any rate, the fact that there is both an Invasion Clause and an Importation Clause that specifically mentions migration indicates the Framers thought of repelling invasions and restricting unwanted migration as very different powers, completely different subjects. It’s right there in the text.
The problem is that Congress HAS passed laws making this immigration illegal. It's just executive branch policy not to enforce those laws.
The supremacy clause keeps getting cited, but it doesn't make executive branch policy supreme, it makes federal "law" supreme. So, in principle, Texas should be the one citing the supremacy clause, not the Biden administration, since Texas is acting consistent with federal law, and it's the Biden administration violating it.
Those laws give broad discretion to the executive, Brett. The laws are being enforced, just not with the performative cruelty Trump used that you seem to enjoy. But you are yet again taking what you think the law ought to be, and deciding that's what the law *is* but for those evil Democrats.
Neither you nor Texas gets to tell the executive how to use it's discretion. Congress could weigh in; that's their job.
It's not that you don't think it's an invasion. It's that you support it, because you think every stupid, squat, short, brown mestizo has a human right to live in America.
The bigotry always simmers at or just below the surface at this white, male, disgruntled, movement conservative blog.
Well, there are two whole continents of "America", and most of those folks were born in one or the other of them...
"I have explained why such contentions are badly wrong as a matter of text and original meaning, and why accepting them would set a dangerous precedent empowering states to engage in war without congressional authorization,"
That is literally the purpose of the invasion clause!
To be sure, they envisioned a state repelling an invasion in the interval between the invasion commencing, and the central government learning of it and responding. But that, still, is "without congressional authorization".
What they didn't envision was that the country would be invaded, and the central government would invite the invasion and attempt to stop border states from resisting it.
The invasion clause has real meaning. 9/11 was an invasion. I could easily imagine a situation in which an emboldened Mexican drug cartel sends in parties to take over Texas towns and such in a way that’s effectively an occupation. I think that would be an invasion. If the federal government was ineffective, Texas could act on its own, use the Texas national guard, create or mobilize a Texas militia if it wants, and employ military force to kick them out. If something behaves like an army, it is an army so far as the constitution is concerned. And it can be treated like an army, no technical formalities needed.
I think the biggest difficulty with calling unwanted immigration an invasion is that the Constitution itself uses different language. There’s an Importation clause referring to importation and migration. That clause refers to restricting migration. Maybe, as the text suggests, that should have continued to be a state prerogative. The 13th Amendment got rid of importation, but why was the language “as the states now existing think proper to admit” rendered a nullity? You could certainly argue that that clause ought to give both Congress and each state an independent veto over immigration into the state, and that just because Congress allows foreigners into the country, they don’t gain a right to travel to whatever state they want, but only to ones willing to admit them. But that’s just a different constitutional argument.
The point is that the constitution regards restricting migration as an entirely different thing from repelling an invasion. The difference is right there in the text. There are separate clauses for each. Whoever gets to restrict migration, whoever gets to repel invasions, they are just not the same thing.
There was a lot of weasel wording around slavery, and the slave trade: They weren't ready to move against slavery yet, but they weren't about to acknowledge it in the Constitution, either.
I think you could say that legal immigration is "migration", while illegal immigration is "invasion", since "invasion" entry into a place contrary to the will of those entitled to a say in the matter.
" but why was the language “as the states now existing think proper to admit” rendered a nullity?"
Because 1808 has come and passed? The actual phrase was, "The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight,"
It was an acknowledgement that, prior to the Constitution taking effect, the states HAD been in charge of immigration, and pushing off any federal control of the matter to a specified date in the future.
Which date is long since passed, so the states long longer have a say in the matter.
There is no proper reason for allowing people to cross our borders outside of our designated crossing points. None. Everyone knows that if a Republican were in the WH, these illegal crossings would be halted forthwith. This is an “invasion”, yes, but one designed by the Democratic Party, implemented by the US government, and funded by taxpayers.
Stop voting Democrats into office if you don’t like what they do. “Elections have consequences.”
Congressional Republicans are complicit, too. More obvious grounds for impeachment of an agency head could hardly be found.
"Everyone knows that if a Republican were in the WH, these illegal crossings would be halted forthwith."
I know nothing of the sort. On the contrary, until Trump came along, keeping the illegal immigrants coming was bipartisan policy. There might have been some disagreement about the exact level of illegal immigration that was preferred, but that it was desirable to have a lot of it was the consensus. The last Republican President who was serious about halting illegal immigration was Reagan, and that's assuming he was actually suckered by the Democrats on that amnesty/enforcement deal, and not just going along with a charade.
That's why a Republican Congress refused to fund Trump's border wall, and kept shorting the budget for immigration enforcement.
Republican voters, of course, were not part of this consensus, and that's a large part of why Trump won the nomination in 2016.
Granted there woud be some illegal entry. But not 3 million PER YEAR.
No, under a normal Republican President, probably closer to 1 million a year.
The Republicans push it to make business interests happy, driving down wages. For the Democrats, it's that AND demographic engineering. So, naturally, they want more.
Even for a Democrat, though, Biden, or whoever is calling the shots now, is turning out to be something of an extremist on illegal immigration.
Republicans habitually think of politics as a "repeat game", and anticipate that the parties will keep swapping control of the government going into the future. Democrats, I think maybe because of that long period of complete control they had in the early 20th century, don't think of that as a normal state of affairs, and are continually working towards permanent rule by one party.
I think they've concluded that they're in the end game for that, and have thrown caution to the wind.
Probably!
There is no proper reason to allow people to drive faster than the speed limit either. They just do it anyway.
GOP are admitting their illegal drug war facilitates invasion of the US?