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From Dean Erwin Chemerinsky (Berkeley Law) and Chancellor Howard Gillman (UC Irvine) on Free Speech on Campus
Chemerinsky and Gillman are the co-authors of Free Speech on Campus, and have long defended free speech and academic freedom. (For another recent item from the two of them, see here ["Free speech doesn't mean hecklers get to shut down campus debate"].) I don't always agree with them on such matters, and I tend to disagree with them even more on other matters; but their thoughts on the subject are always interesting, and based on deep academic expertise. Here's an excerpt from their Yahoo! News piece yesterday:
We applaud the efforts of the Department of Education to require that campuses deal with anti-Semitism and Islamophobia after a recent uptick in incidents following the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel on Oct. 7. In response, [Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona and Assistant Secretary of Education Catherine Lhamon] have issued statements saying schools that fail to adequately deal with these incidents can be deemed in violation of Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which provides that recipients of federal funds cannot discriminate on the basis of race or ethnicity.
We have no quarrel with the proposition that campuses have a duty to act when there is speech that constitutes discriminatory harassment within the meaning of federal law. The official standard promulgated by the Education Department is that campuses must respond when the speech "is subjectively and objectively offensive and is so severe or pervasive that it limits or denies a person's ability to participate in or benefit from the recipient's educational program or activity."
The problem is that universities have been advised in briefings by the Department of Education that protected speech, including speech that would not meet the definition of harassment, can create a hostile environment that universities are obligated to address.
This puts universities in a very difficult position as the entire point of a university education is to protect the expression of all ideas and prepare students to encounter — and, if necessary, rebut — those ideas….
Universities have been advised that statements from protesters such as "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" — which are clearly constitutionally protected — likely create a hostile environment for Jewish students which undermines their equal opportunity to an education, thus requiring investigations and mitigation efforts. But this is speech protected by the First Amendment, and we know that some Muslim, Arab and Palestinian students similarly feel threatened by protesters who chant "We stand with Israel." Do they also require investigations and mitigation efforts?
It is easy to imagine endless other examples of students complaining about a hostile environment as a result of being exposed to protected speech. What should universities do when conservative Christians complain that pro-abortion or pro-trans rights advocates create a hostile environment for them? Or, conversely, when LGBTQ+ individuals and allies say conservative Christian activists create the same situation for them? …
The Department of Education should make it clear that, on college campuses, a discriminatory educational environment cannot be created merely through exposure to objectionable ideas and speech that is protected by the First Amendment.
And from their S.F. Chronicle piece yesterday:
It is tempting to say that any advocacy of genocide should be banned and outside the scope of the First Amendment. That, though, is not and never has been the law. Allowing the government such a power of censorship would not be easily cabined. Some argue that what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocide. Could a university then ban speech supporting Israel? Those who oppose abortion have often described it as a form of genocide. Could a college so inclined ban all pro-choice speech?
The courts have been consistent that hateful speech is constitutionally protected. In the early 1990s, over 360 colleges and universities adopted hate speech codes. Every one, without exception, that has come to court was declared unconstitutional as a violation of the First Amendment….
And they argue that the right solution is a response to the speech, not restriction of the speech (though, in light of their AP piece, I take it that they think such a response should be a matter of each university's judgment, rather than mandated by the Department of Education's interpretation of Title VI):
[But] there is much that university officials can and should do besides punishing speech when there is hateful speech. Indeed, federal law requires that colleges not be "deliberately indifferent" when there is harassment. University officials have many tools, including using their voices to condemn hateful speech, providing educational programs and training about antisemitism and other types of bigotry, and providing support for students. If people are advocating genocide, that must be responded to as an abhorrent violation of campus values, even when the First Amendment does not permit the censorship or punishment of the individual speaker.
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My understanding was that the regulations and law have the additional requirement that students be *targeted* on the basis of their membership in a protected class.
Regardless of how you interpret the severe/pervasive etc aspect of the standard I don't see how most of the speech in the current controversy *targets* Jewish students. Has targets been interpreted in a way that means disparetly impacts rather than requiring any intention to have any effect on those students? I mean unlike a swastika drawn for the purpose of intimidating a Jewish student these protestors would be making the same chants independently of the presence of Jewish students.
Since my edits keep getting abandoned same question if you replace targeted with race based conduct as ive seen it described elsewhere. How does the fact that a group takes offense render a statement race based? I presume it's the same standard with religion and presumably if a religion decided any use of the word "green" was deeply offensive wouldn't render such use religious based conduct right?
Peter,
If the speech is made in a physically threaten manner, such as rattling a locked door and shouting at the people inside, as was the case at Cornell. It seems that certainly is targeted harassment because the speech accompanies physically threatening action. Similar occurrences took place at MIT. If the speech is part of a demonstration meant to block students access to their classrooms or dorm rooms, that looks to the blocked student to be physically threatening and targeting harassment and not merely speech.
If we are talking about a table with signs and discussions with "hateful" messages, that certainly should be permitted, no matter whether a passing student or faculty is disturbed by the message. The passerby needs to grow a thicker skin.
You're calling lot of things speech that aren't speech or expression.
Exactly. Because he's trying to draw a clear line, in examples of expression, where it isn't speech that's prohibited.
He's looping in non-expressive conduct with coincident speech and calling it 'speech is made in a physically threaten manner.'
I don't think the right way to analyze that is as speech that's not protected, but rather separate nonexpressive conduct that has never been 1A protected.
Otherwise you get some mission creep into expressive conduct/speech.
Can you imagine a Klan chapter at MIT doing to Black students what the SJP (etc.) has done to Jewish students?
Forget the MIT Police or even Cambridge & Mass State Police, the FBI would have been on campus the next day and arresting people for civil rights violations.
Likewise, can you see UMass putting up with the Klan taking over buildings and blockading cafeterias? I can't....
What, really, is the difference between SJP and KKK????
They don't let you do edits? They aren't allowing it for me, either.
I think it's a recent bug that started late Monday night or very early Tuesday morning.
There's no such explicit targeting requirement. The rule is quoted above, based on Davis v. Monroe County Board of Education (1999): speech that "is subjectively and objectively offensive and is so severe or pervasive that it limits or denies a person's ability to participate in or benefit from the recipient's educational program or activity." (A school or school board becomes liable if it is aware of such harassment and deliberately indifferent to it.)
Why is it so difficult to make a distinction between protected speech and threats of physical violence? Why is it so difficult to make a distinction between protected speech and civil disorder?
Part of the problem is that the people running academia, including the schmucks at the Dept of Education, don't believe in freedom of speech in the first place. Another part of the problem is that a lot of these people shouldn't have been hired in the first place -- eg the President of Harvard who appears to have plagiarized her dissertation.
Anyone remember DKE at Yale?
https://www.businessinsider.com/yale-delta-kappa-epsilon-2018-1?op=1
Isn't that precedent?
I remember how a "trap house" party at Yale was somehow triggering, and demanded an immediate response by Yale's administration.
But apparently a pro-Hamas mob chanting "we gonna kill all the Jews!" outside the Jewish center...that needs a commitment to free speech.
It wasn't just a "trap house" party. They were going to serve "chicken" there.
You're glossing over the problem.
Yes, and I remember how all of us were on the side of traphouse kid and against the "snowflakes," and I remember how the Yale administration came down on our side and got rid of all thw DEI people who had originally given traphouse guy a hard time.
I'm still on traphouse kids's side of pro-free-speech and anti-snowflake. What happened to the rest of you to suddenly be the most diehard of DEI advocates ever to post on the VC?
Universities have been advised that statements from protesters such as "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" — which are clearly constitutionally protected — likely create a hostile environment for Jewish students which undermines their equal opportunity to an education, thus requiring investigations and mitigation efforts.
All of the following are Constitutionally protected speech:
"Gas the Jews"
"Hitler was right"
"Hey Kike, we are going to kill you all."
"N-words are all monkeys."
"All N-words should be deported to Africa."
"Repeal the 13th Amendment"
"God Hates Fags"
So his position is, if any of these were chanted on campus, the administration should do nothing.
I think an argument could be made that most advocacy of genocide constitutes a true threat.
That is a true threat, and not constitutionally protected.
Is it imminent? Not clear to me that under Brandenburg it's not protected. (Although it's debatable.)
Brandenburg covers incitement of unlawful activity. True threats are not protected even if there is no intent to carry out the threat. From Virginia v. Black (2003):
Correct, although they are subject to a recklessness requirement under the Counterman case.
Doesn't really seem like a serious threat to kill all Jewish people.
I would laugh at that if said on Twitter. If someone said it to my face, I would take it as a serious threat.
A 'never went to law school' response from BL. As Tons of awful and outrage-causing speech is protected.
I personally think there is something to explore about student speech being more regulatable by universities than general speech - seems like I differ from Prof. Chemerinsky on that.
But a bare 1A argument isn't going to go far.
Once again, beclowns himself. I am well aware all of that is protected -- which I expressly stated in my post.
Question is, what should universities do if such speech is made on campus. Some of which has happened, as I pointed out in the link to the Rolling Stone article.
Back to muting you go.
For those interested, the link is here:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/antisemitism-college-campuses-1234891263/
'So his position is, if any of these were chanted on campus, the administration should do nothing.'
This makes it sound like you *don't* think the administration should do nothing.
You didn't make a Tinker argument, so it really looks like you think the speech is not protected.
And yet you say it is.
Yet again, I am left asking what your desired upshot is? You're angry at the status quo, but it's not clear why and it's not clear what change you want.
This is not the third time this has happened.
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Here are my answers (as previously stated):
re: why
Our universities have been suppressing certain ideas for decades. Advocacy of genocide ranks pretty high among the ideas they’ve been suppressing. Except … now. Now, when there’re numerous students (and professors!) who want to advocate for the genocide of Israelis (“From the river to the sea!”), our universities have suddenly discovered the virtue of freedom of speech. Curious, isn’t it?
re: what change you want
So, what should we do? I’ve long maintained that all public higher-ed institutions should be shut down. As for private ones, the government shouldn’t interfere with them, no matter what they teach or what discussions / presentations they allow. If I were running such a (private) school, I would not interfere in any way with student advocacy / discussions / presentations. However, I’d be very careful about whom I’d hire, trying to avoid professors who advocate for genocide. And if, upon being hired, a professor surprised me by so advocating (especially, but not only, in the classroom), I’d fire him. (Yes, he has a right to speak his mind, but my (private) school has a right not to be associated with him.*)
* This may very well be wrong under current laws. If so, the laws should be changed.
No, his position is that the university should respond with countering speech. Read the last paragraph above.
I'm not sure that approach has any hope of being successful but if you're going to criticize an author, criticize what they actually said, not your strawman of it.
I think an argument could be made that most advocacy of genocide constitutes a true threat.
'statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals.'
I'm not seeing a good argument for advocacy of genocide to indicate a plan for the speaker to commit violence.
Add in the recent broadening definition of 'advocacy of genocide' and this seems an unlawful take and a bad idea.
Are we talking genocide genocide or "there are two sexes" genocide?
"subjectively and objectively offensive"
Must be nice being a court. Wanna turn a subjective standard into an objective one? Just tack "objectively" in front.
From my subjective view, your comment was funny.
But from an objective perspective, well, I'll have to leave that judgement to the courts.
(It must be nice indeed.)
It's not "turning it into" one; it's adding one. "And" is a conjunction that means both things.
Still just one thing.
No:
(1) subjective; and
(2) objective
It's two things. I just checked.
It's linguistic much ado about nothing.
In this context, "objective" refers to the reasonable person standard, while "subjective" refers to the target's personal opinion. I think it is bad linguistics to use "objective" for a standard that requires a subjective judgment, but I understand it is used to distinguish it from the subjective beliefs of the target.
“ I think it is bad linguistics to use “objective” for a standard that requires a subjective judgment, but I understand it is used to distinguish it from the subjective beliefs of the target.”
Yup. But it sounds better to say you have an objective standard. That’s why it’s nice to be a court.
The reasonable person is supposed to be objective in how they reach their judgment, not the judge who determines what an objective reasonable person would conclude.
Your eagerness to dump on judges is not only inconsequential to the debate, it's not justified either.
Still subjective. And you are entitled to your opinion about what’s justified.
Yes, lawyers use jargon. It's not great.
Janky naming doesn't make the standard itself illegitimate or bad to use.
No one said it did.
Here is some free speech, up on Youtube. For now. Expect some to claim it's racist, or Islamophobic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUMl58i4m0w
It sounds like you think free speech cannot be racist or Islamophobic.
Or that Youtube is required to keep all 1A protected speech up, as though it is a government agency.
I suspect you don't mean these things; might you clarify?
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/12/06/should-universities-ban-advocacy-of-genocide/?comments=true#comment-10346274
These dudes are just afraid of the Red Guards and Hamas supporters who do the chant.
Colleges all over punished all sorts for "misgendering" etc. but protecting Jewish students is just a bridge to far for these dudes.
More free speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW_k-mUfzhE
This is not a time for humor.
(That's FUNNY.)
It's satire. A great way to criticize someone or something.
"It is tempting to say that any advocacy of genocide should be banned and outside the scope of the First Amendment. That, though, is not and never has been the law."
Just for fun, let's pick that apart.
The U. S. has ratified the Genocide Convention, which provides in pertinent part:
"Article III
"The following acts shall be punishable:
...(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide"
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide
In ratifying the Genocide Convention in 1988, the United States attached this reservation:
"(2) That nothing in the Convention requires or authorizes legislation or other action by the United States of America prohibited by the Constitution of the United States as interpreted by the United States."
https://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=IND&mtdsg_no=IV-1&chapter=4&clang=_en
The United States has interpreted the Constitution such that incitement can be punished *if* (roughly) it can cause imminent lawless action.
Wouldn't this suggest that incitement to genocide would need to risk imminent lawless action - at least mob action, maybe genocide itself?
Not being a genocide expert, I request the comments of those who know more.
Federal statute on the subect:
18 U.S. Code § 1091(c)
"Incitement Offense.—
"Whoever directly and publicly incites another to violate subsection (a) [proscribing genocide] shall be fined not more than $500,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."
Incitement laws have been interpreted quite narrowed per the First Amendment.
No, it's not the general way the word is used. But legally, incitement laws (and presumably statutes?) as applied need to meet Brandenburg's 'imminent lawless action' test.
Statutes -> treaties.
No conflict due to the U. S. reservation.
Somebody yesterday referred to the "statues." On a scale of this to that, you didn't even make a mistake.
LOL
BTW: Your Clarence Thomas finish yesterday was peak fun of my day.
😛
If Universities were actually committed to allowing the expression of all viewpoints on campus, then this would be a sensible argument. But a wide variety of first amendment protected speech is already restricted on campus.
Requesting that universities not be required to restrict one such form of speech when they already restrict so many others has the appearance of supporting that specific type of speech, and not free speech in general.
All good university presidents are now sharpening their pencils and expanding their speech restrictions...errr... they're protections against harm.
harm Harm HARM!
Requesting that universities not be required to restrict one such form of speech when they already restrict so many others has the appearance of supporting that specific type of speech, and not free speech in general.
Sure. To evaluate speech, and sort it according to content is kind of the point of a university.
"Effective immediately, all Jews will be considered honorary Persons of Color for purposes of our regulations."
Governments and universities, including public universities, can expect to be at odds with regard to expressive freedom. Government standards for expressive freedom in the public square sort poorly with a university community's need to operate as a continuously useful locus to foster evaluation of the content of competing ideas.
University ideas may go beyond what government would permit, or they may require the university community to stop short of what government would permit, to preserve university comity. Standards to sort cases on those bases are beyond the capacity of government to create, at least within the usual scope of American constitutionalism.
The university will strive for something like a free marketplace of ideas, where ideas themselves compete as if they were personified contenders in a meritocracy. Government will insist to the contrary—that notions of meritorious ideas, or unmeritorious ideas, have no place.
Government expressive standards leave no scope to evaluate content, if to do that advantages any speaker ahead of another. With government, the thing is equality among speakers, with content mostly excluded from notice. At universities, to evaluate expressions according to content is the point.
From that contrast it follows that government expressive standards cannot work for universities, and workable university standards are unsuitable for government administration. Those mutually interfering systems can function side-by-side in only one way. Government must give way.
Government must afford universities, public and private, legal scope to create their own regimes to evaluate expressive content, and to apply those as norms to which university community members give consent. Government must not attempt to impose content indifference on university standards to govern expression.
Folks dissatisfied with university expressive constraints, or unhappy with university expressive scope deemed over-broad, will remain free to step off campus, and into the public square. There speakers will always remain free to express themselves according to government-defended norms of personal equality.
A society which decided to limit itself exclusively to either the university set of content-sensitive expressive standards, or to the government's regime of personal equality regardless of content, would be poorer for the limitation. A genuine free market for ideas requires simultaneous operation of multiple marketplaces, with a diversity of rules to govern them.