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Thoughts on the Supreme Court's Ruling in the Harvard and UNC Racial Preferences Cases
A preliminary assessment of today's decisions. The majority rightly struck a blow against the use of racial preferences for purposes of advancing "diversity" in education. But there are some flaws in its reasoning.
Today, the Supreme Court ruled against Harvard and the University of North Carolina in cases challenging the legality of their use of racial preferences in student admissions. The decision severely restricts, even if it doesn't completely ban, the use of racial preferences of purposes of achieving "diversity" in educational institutions. Chief Justice Roberts' majority opinion does an excellent job of laying out many of the flaws in diversity preferences, including nebulous goals, reliance on crude racial classifications and stereotypes, and the unconstitutional use of race as a "negative" to disadvantage Asian-American applicants, among others. Justice Neil Gorsuch's concurrence correctly points out that the cases could have been resolved more easily by relying on the plain text of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
On the downside, the Court did a poor job of reconciling its decisions with previous precedents giving much broader leeway for "diversity" preferences, most notably Grutter v. Bollinger (2003) and Fisher v. University of Texas II (2016). Some parts of the majority opinion could also potentially enable the continuation of some racial preferences in disguise.
No blog post could do justice to the 237 pages of majority, concurring, and dissenting opinions in this case! But I will try to expand somewhat on several key points.
First, it's important to remember that Harvard and UNC justified their use of racial preferences by reference to the supposed educational benefits of racial and ethnic "diversity." Even if you think affirmative action can be justified on some other basis, such as compensating for historical injustice, today's rulings are focused on the far more dubious diversity rationale.
And, as Roberts and Gorsuch effectively explain, that rationale is so full of holes that it can't possibly pass muster under the "strict scrutiny" imposed on the use of racial classifications. For example, the racial categories into which Harvard UNC divide up applicants (black, white, Latino, Asian, etc.) are extremely crude and verge on simplistic stereotyping. As Gorsuch points out, the "Asian" category "sweeps into one pile East Asians (e.g., Chinese, Korean, Japanese) and South Asians(e.g., Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi), even though together they constitute about 60% of the world's population." The other categories are not much better. WASPS, Jews, and immigrants from Bulgaria and Sweden are all equally "white." "Latino" likewise includes people from a vast range of nations and cultures. "Black" lumps in native-born African-American descendants of slaves with immigrants and children of immigrants from a wide range of countries in Africa and the Carribbean. The "narrow tailoring" required by strict scrutiny surely compels a far more nuanced assessment.
As Chief Justice Roberts explains, this kind of lumping also inevitably leads to crude stereotyping, based on the assumption that all members of these broad categories have relatively similar views and backgrounds, different from those of all the other broad aggregates. That is pretty obviously false in many cases. For example, an upper-middle class white person probably has much more in common with a native-born African-American from the same economic background in the same city, than either is likely to have with an immigrant from Bulgaria or Nigeria, even though the former is classified as "white," and the latter "black." Along related lines, the exchange between Clarence Thomas' concurring opinion in today's cases and Ketanji Brown Jackson's dissent powerfully demonstrates how two native-born African-Americans from southern states can have vastly different perspectives on the the black American experience, its history, and what that history implies for today.
The crudeness of the racial and ethnic categories used by Harvard and UNC also undercut Justice Jackson's otherwise powerful appeal to the historic disadvantages faced by African-Americans. She is obviously right that blacks are on average worse off than whites on various social and economic dimensions, and that the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, and other discrimination is a large part of the reason why.
But even if blacks are worse off, on average, that doesn't mean that all or even most black applicants to elite institutions like Harvard have suffered greatly from discrimination. Many are relatively affluent members of the upper middle class. Conversely, many of those discriminated against by affirmative action themselves come from groups with their own histories of disadvantage and discrimination (most notably Asians).
One of my black classmates at Yale Law School was the son of the attorney general of his state. That does not mean his life was free of racism (for example, he still experienced racial profiling by police, which is a serious injustice opponents of affirmative action, including my fellow libertarians, should pay more attention to). But it seems unlikely he was, overall, as disadvantaged as, say, a recent Asian immigrant, or a poor white applicant from Appalachia.
The horrific historic injustices suffered by African-Americans do not justify lumping them all into one group for purposes of racial preferences. The same goes for whites, Latinos, and others.
If the racial and ethnic categories Harvard and UNC use are nebulous and crude, the same applies to the goal these categories are supposed to serve. As Roberts also explains in detail, it is hard to say what is meant by "diversity," what the educational benefits of it are, and how we can measure whether and to what extent they have been achieved.
None of this matters much if you think universities should be given broad discretion to use racial preferences, so long as it is for seemingly good motives. But even supporters of affirmative action usually acknowledge that there needs to be at least some rigorous scrutiny of government's use of racial classifications. They can't just be given a pass, like run of the mill government policies. That's true whether you are an originalist, a living constitutionalist, or some combination of both.
Consider, for example, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's statement that "[t]he mere assertion of a laudable governmental purpose, of course, should not immunize a race-conscious measure from careful judicial inspection…. Close review is needed 'to ferret out classifications in reality malign, but masquerading as benign,' Adarand, 515 U.S., at 275 (Ginsburg, J., dissenting), and to 'ensure that preferences are not so large as to trammel unduly upon the opportunities of others or interfere too harshly with legitimate expectations of persons in once-preferred groups.'" The Harvard and UNC policies can't possibly survive a genuine "careful judicial inspection."
In the majority opinion, Chief Justice Roberts also emphasizes that race cannot be used as a "negative" in university admissions. In one sense, as he also points out, any use of racial preferences creates such a negative for non-preferred groups. That's an inevitable feature of the zero-sum nature of college admissions at selective institutions. But he also notes evidence that Harvard specifically tried to restrict the percentage of Asian-American applicants admitted, through the use of various devices, such as giving them lower personal ratings. In different ways, Roberts, Gorsuch, and Thomas note that discrimination against Asian applicants makes a mockery of the "diversity" rationale, and also of the idea that racial preferences are supposed to benefit historically disadvantaged groups. After all, Asians themselves have a long history of being victimized by state-sponsored discrimination, of which the detention of Japanese-Americans in internment camps during World War II is just one of many examples.
The Court could, however, have avoided the need to go into the details of the Harvard and UNC programs if it had simply decided these cases based on Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which states that "No person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance."
There is no exception here for racial and ethnic preferences adopted for purposes of promoting diversity, or indeed for any other reason. Harvard, a private institution, is actually covered only by Title VI; it is not constrained by the anti-discrimination requirements of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which only applies to government entities (including UNC). Gorsuch is right to argue that the Harvard and UNC cases could have been resolved based on Title VI alone. However, only Thomas was willing to join Gorsuch's concurring opinion on this point.
That may be because previous Supreme Court decisions have ruled that Title VI's antidiscrimination standards are identical to those of the Equal Protection Clause, and the Supreme Court has a high bar for overruling statutory precedents, reaffirmed just recently in Allen v. Milligan. To my mind, the deviation from the plain text of Title VI is so egregious and so poorly reasoned that overruling statutory precedent would have been justified here. But the majority of justices clearly don't agree.
Less excusably, the Roberts' majority opinion and Brett Kavanaugh's concurrence play fast and loose with the Court's affirmative action precedents, such as Grutter and Fisher II. They contend that today's majority opinion is completely compatible with those previous precedents and doesn't require any significant modification of them. I won't try to go over the various convoluted details here. But I think the dissents by Justices Jackson and Sotomayor effectively point out that these precedents give far greater deference to university decision-making on affirmative action policy than does today's majority opinion. The majority would have done better to overrule Grutter, or at least significantly limit its scope.
The failure to overrule or limit Grutter leaves open the possibility that "diversity" might still be a compelling state interest that could justify the use of racial preferences in admissions, in at least some circumstances. Justice Thomas says that "[t]he Court's opinion rightly makes clear that Grutter is, for all intents and purposes, overruled." I don't think so. Otherwise, there would be no need for Roberts' and Kavanaugh's elaborate efforts to square their reasoning with that precedent. That said, the majority opinion does make it very hard to justify anything like the kinds of crude racial classifications used by many universities today.
In a footnote, Chief Justice Roberts notes that today's decision does not apply to the special context of "the nation's military academies." There are indeed special justifications for affirmative action in the military context that probably don't apply elsewhere. Still, this is another sign that the decision doesn't categorically ban all racial preferences, even in higher education.
The majority also emphasizes that universities can still consider applicants' experiences of racial discrimination and other effects that racial or ethnic identity may have had on their lives:
[N]othing in this opinion should be construed as prohibiting universities from considering an applicant's discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise…. But, despite the dissent's assertion to the contrary, universities may not simply establish through application essays or other means the regime we hold unlawful today. (A dissenting opinion is generally not the best source of legal advice on how to comply with the majority opinion. "[W]hat cannot be done directly cannot be done indirectly. The Constitution deals with substance, not shadows," and the prohibition against racial discrimination is "levelled at the thing, not the name." Cummings v. Missouri, 4 Wall. 277, 325 (1867). A benefit to a student who overcame racial discrimination, for example, must be tied to that student's courage and determination. Or a benefit to a student whose heritage or culture motivated him or her to assume a leadership role or attain a particular goal must be tied to that student's unique ability to contribute to the university. In other words, the student must be treated based on his or her experiences as an individual—not on the basis of race.
Roberts is right that universities can legitimately consider applicants' individual experiences with racial discrimination, and other ways in which their racial and ethnic backgrounds may have affected them. He's also right that such consideration should not become a smokescreen for reintroducing racial preferences by the back door. But I worry, nonetheless, that many institutions will try to do the latter under the guise of the former.
More generally, it is likely that many institutions will try to replace explicit racial preferences with seemingly "race-neutral" alternatives that try to target characteristics that correlated with membership in a particular racial or ethnic group. Such subterfuges were used on a large scale to try to resist desegregation after Brown v. Board of Education. And we already see them in recent efforts to preserve racial preferences for blacks and Latinos, and keep down the percentage of Asian students at selective institutions.
It is also not entirely clear what the implications of today's ruling are for racial preferences outside education, such as in the field of government contracting. The conservative majority on the Court is likely to take a dim view of those preferences, as well. But exactly how dim is hard to tell.
Despite these and other caveats and shortcomings, today's decisions are an important step in the right direction. They won't put an end to all use of racial preferences. But they reaffirm and extend the fundamental principle that such discrimination is deeply unjust, and at least presumptively unconstitutional.
UPDATE: I wrote and posted this before seeing Will Baude's insightful post on the same topic. I agree with most of what he says there.
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Of the three black persons in my law school class (out of 150), one was the child of a judge, another was the child of a prominent lawyer, and the third the child of a prominent businessman. As far as I could tell, they were more privileged than the average white student.
Clarence Thomas, from all accounts, grew up underprivileged and was a hard worker in law school. I understand his resentment at being thought of as inferior as the product of affirmative action (which he surely is, particularly in his present job). But his opposition to AA is of a piece with his general hostility to civil rights and the rights of the disadvantaged in general.
Did you listen to the Slow Burn podcast on Thomas? It was really fascinating.
Justice Thomas is the only justice in history to unequivocally call the president that gave him his start a “racist”. He characterizes then governor Reagan’s trampling of the 2A when scary Black men started exercising their 2A rights as one of the most vile and racist policies since the end of slavery…that’s pretty badass! Reagan was a vile racist according to Justice Thomas and I agree with him!
Based on his Surpreme Court Picks, 2 of 3 who supported Abortion) he certainly contributed to limiting the growth of the Black Race, almost as much as Richard Milhouse (3 of 4 of his Picks voted for "Roe") and "45" has done the most to encourage more Black Peoples being born as 3 of 3 of his picks voted to end "Roe",
Dammit!!!!!!!
forget that last part
Frank
I’m like Trump—I support Planned Parenthood because their clinics are smack dab in the middle of Black neighborhoods…I only wish they did a better job. 😉
I'm not sure about the relative magnitude, but he's right about the direction. It was racist.
Have ChatGPT write an essay about how you started the first Trans Muslim Club in one’s high school’s history…LET’S BURN THIS MOTHERFUCKER DOWN!!
Make that the Afro-Eurasian Trans Muslim Club.
By "rights of the disadvantaged" it seems like you mean special rights above and beyond the rest of humanity. And that those rights are generously awarded upon being granted membership in a special class called "the disadvantaged".
Read Thomas's concurring opinion. It isn't about "hostility to civil rights" or "the rights of the disadvantaged." (By the way, what are "the rights of the disadvantaged"? I mean, do they have different rights than the rest of us?) It's about human dignity. I am a man, he says; I am not my skin-color. If the government treats me based on my skin-color, it is denying me my human dignity. I found Thomas's opinion inspiring.
Captcrisis - You mean Thomas's hostility to violations of 14A?
You make assumptions, echoing Justice Jackson, for which there is little to no basis: "She is obviously right that blacks are on average worse off than whites on various social and economic dimensions, and that the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, and other discrimination is a large part of the reason why." Really? What is the "legacy"? I would posit that the legacy of mass murder and torture suffered by Jews only 80 years ago -- and before that off and on for over a thousands years, was kind of a tough "legacy." But most recovered. Blacks were doing better economically and socially in the early 60s than now, so did the "legacy" disappear and then magically reappear?
Everyone not afraid of being called a racist knows that the dysfunctional culture of black communities is the primary -- and often sole -- cause of the gaps cited by Jackson. She should know better and in turn, Professor Somin as well, himself a survivor of the "legacy" of pogroms a/k/a massacres.
Anything you might trace this black cultural dysfunction to?
I haven't deeply researched it, but clearly not related to slavery or Jim Crow. Were it so, Jews would all be beggars in the streets given their vastly longer history of oppression, and Chinese Americans would be waiting tables. Slavery and Jim Crow are an excuse. Slavery ended before paved roads, indoor plumbing, cars and planes, computers or electric lights. And even then it ended because of 350,000 white men who died for it. Further, the entirely of the law cited in todays' various opinions was written by whites or adopted by white judges.
Jews, Poles, Irish, Italians -- all faced discrimination equal to or worse than Jim Crow, which was largely in the south. Why are there so many Jewish hospitals? Law firms? Consulting and accounting
firms?
"Jews, Poles, Irish, Italians — all faced discrimination equal to or worse than Jim Crow..."
You need to provide citations to prove this assertion.
My Irish immigrant ancestors could use the same water fountain that the WASP majority used, as could Jews, Polish, and Italians. My Irish ancestors were redlined for buying houses. The house I bought in Tampa that was built in the 1920s had a covenant to prevent its sale to Blacks but not Jews, Polish, Irish, or Italians. Jim Crow was about segregation. Where were the Irish segregated formally and required to use separate facilities?
(I'm not saying the Irish didn't have issues with discrimination, but it wasn't anywhere near equal to what Black Americans experienced.)
He means here? In the US? No. How many of those groups dealt with slavery (arguably the Chinese did in California but somehow they don’t make his list).
I grew up in the Jim Crow south. Everyone is using it poorly for political purposes, but I think you had to have experienced it to really understand the depth of it. Kinda like visiting Auschwitz. Intellectually you can know it was awful but you have to see it to get the scale of it and the depth of the cruelty.
That said, Jim Crow was basically gone when my age hit two digits. I’m almost 66. It’s long gone. You can’t blame the inability of certain subdivisions of our society to prepare for and competently participate in higher level education on Jim Crow anymore. Might as well blame it on polio or Elvis’ hips.
Until we admit that, it’s never going to improve.
Jim Crow wasn't some big bird that landed, laid a few eggs, and then flew off to never be seen again. It was a symptom of a deeply racist society that didn't stop being racist when Jim Crow ended. When school segregation ended they had to call out the national guard to ensure the safety of Black students. The beliefs that brought Jim Crow to America are still at work with the "anti-CRT" movement where basic Black history isn't being taught in some states lest it offend White children (or, more likely, their parents.) Those same beliefs are using computers to deftly carve out political districts to minimize minority political impact. Jim Crow isn't really gone, it's just changed its shape in order to continue moving forward in today's world. Much in the same way, I might add, that Ilya is worried Harvard might do in its own pursuit of racial diversity on campus.
So what do you call the Holocaust?
Thank you for explaining my life experience to me. Where did you grow up, California in the 80s?
By saying Jim Crow is still around in some evolved form is laughable. And worse it diminishes the shit that real people had to endure and overcome. Jim Crow meant that they couldn’t vote or stay where they wanted or marry people of other races. I know George Floyd was mistreated, but what he got was a picnic compared to what, say, Emmitt Till got.
Back then they had to worry about cops setting dogs on them, today they have to deal with microaggressions. Yeah, pretty much the same.
Democrats and leftists like Ilya keep it alive for cynical purposes.
Noticed too late to edit: " My Irish ancestors were redlined" should be "were not."
Read the first chapter of WEB DuBois' _Souls of Black Folk_ .
Anything you might trace this black cultural dysfunction to?
The federal government's policies decimating the nuclear family.
Strange that aide to single mothers, forces mothers not have husbands so they can max out the free money.
Black Culture was centered on family and Church. Uncle Sam showed up and subsidized bad choices.
When you tax something, you get less of it, if you subsidize something you get more of it.
Yeah, there is a sharp drop off in the Black community creating wealth with LBJ and his "Great Society" then the generations of DNC instilled victim narratives and victimization of the community have only cemented the bad outcomes further.
Yes, a 76% illegitimacy rate.
Heritage did a study a while back that found that when you statistically adjust for the differences in illegitimacy, the White/Black poverty gap vanishes -- that an equal percentage of both races were living in poverty.
We *know* that illegitimacy caused problems -- I learned that teaching in in an all-White school in Northern Maine.
The fact that only 24% of Black babies have an official father when born -- and that doesn't include cases like Barack Obama whose father left when he was a couple years old -- is relevant here.
As is a culture which values basketball skills but not literacy, but we can't say that...
And why is that rate a thing? What are the correlated variables?
Correlated variables aren't necessarily the cause of whatever you're looking at; in fact, they usually aren't. That's why we have a high bar, that most scientists believe should be even higher, to demonstrate significance.
My thinking is poverty is partially in the mix here. Folks like to elide it because that’s what gives them a big number.
But, by current standards, almost everybody in the 1920's was in poverty; By 1920's standards, nobody is today. And yet, out of wedlock birth rates are about 5 times higher now.
Absolute poverty, I mean. Simple lack of individual resources is clearly not the problem. The problem is what people do with the resources they have.
Because of culture, especially around government and liberalism.
"Anything you might trace this black cultural dysfunction to?"
The efforts of LBJ and other Democrats to establish a dependent underclass that would be reliable votes for their party.
You financially incentivize out-of-wedlock births for half-a-century (to the point where, today, it's something like 3 out of 4), and then you wonder at all the pathological behavior ...
"Liberals" are always so well-intentioned ...
Blaming events 3 and more generations ago for culture today is a cop out
Yes liberalism.
"Dysfunctional culture of black communities"???
Please clarify, Dysfunctional? How??, "Fambily Structure?" there are more white children born "Out of Wedlock"(I prefer the classic "Bastard") than Afro-Amurican, "Drug Abuse"?? Fent-a-nol deaths are predominantly among the Rhythm/Melanin challenged, "Regular Church Attendance?" OK, the Hispanics lap the field, but the "Black Communities" certainly aren't lacking in Religion,
Frank "OK, yes, I'll give you the Jheri Curl"
Hunter Biden is working on evening the playing field. In fact, the way the Big Guy conned China out of a billion dollars was threatening to unleash a coked up Hunter with a bag full of viagra on China to spoil their gene pool. 😉
Frank, there are more (numerically) White children born out of wedlock and a higher number of White families on welfare -- but there is a higher percentage of Black families in both categories.
A smaller percentage of a larger population creates a larger n.
The problem causing the educational and material well-being gap between whites and blacks is a gap in educational achievement, but not in college it starts in kindergarten, and by the time the average black child is 10 they are already so far behind the national average they are unlikely to ever catch up.
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/raceindicators/indicator_rca.asp
That's the problem, not a lack of affirmative action in elite colleges, and nothing those elite colleges do will address the problem.
School systems like Baltimore, which is emblematic of most major cities spend as much or in many case much more per pupil than suburban or rural districts with much higher success rates.
My proposal for a trial program is to set aside 10% of Baltimore's school budget (fire some administrators, lots of them to free up the money), then pay the parents bonuses for each 5% increase in math and reading scores, no matter whether they are in the top of the class or bottom.
Incentives work and they should be tried, and continuing to poor money down the current school system rathole won't help.
We are having this argument about elite college affirmative action because fixing the real problem is too hard and the inner city schools where the problem is at its worst have given up.
It’s not just that fixing the real problem is too hard. Maybe it’s not even that hard if we genuinely try.
It’s that fixing the real problem requires identifying the real source of the problem, and the left are, by and large, prevented from identifying the real source of the problem by their own ideology.
The actual source of the problem is the choices that the ‘disadvantaged’ are making. That’s why offering them better incentives would help. Changing somebody’s incentives when the problem is outside their own control would be pointless.
But, to the left, this is “victim blaming”, a categorically forbidden, evil thing to do. They HAVE to identify the source of the problem, and thus the target for any solution, somewhere else. Somebody other than the ‘victim’ HAS to be at fault. No other conclusion is thinkable.
So, the only people who can be guilty are the people who aren’t making the bad choices! And the fact that they're well off can't be because they're making good choices, that gets you back to noticing the bad choices of the not well off.
If the well off aren't well off because they're doing the right things, how else can they be well off, except that they're doing the wrong things? This ideology makes concluding that the people who aren't poor are predators essentially unavoidable!
This is exactly where most on the left disagree. See EXPLAINING WHITE PRIVILEGE TO A BROKE WHITE PERSON... https://medschool.duke.edu/sites/default/files/2022-02/explaining_white_privilege_to_a_broke_white_person.pdf
"One of my black classmates at Yale Law School was the son of the attorney general of his state. That does not mean his life was free of racism (for example, he still experienced racial profiling by police, which is a serious injustice opponents of affirmative action, including my fellow libertarians, should pay more attention to). But it seems unlikely he was, overall, as disadvantaged as, say, a recent Asian immigrant, or a poor white applicant from Appalachia."
But it's because of this that you get intersectionality - that oppression olympics is not a game that makes sense - there is no single 'oppressions' metric.
And how everyone is unique, but that there are areas of common experience across some groups. So being black has it's issues, as does being male, as does being a recent immigrant, or being poor.
And that being a black immigrant has it's own unique set of issues.
And some issues are good, not bad.
The 2022 objections you linked to are absolutely correct and well put, but some years out of date re: the latest thinking on diversity and outreach.
And that’s why I oppose diversity—“let’s give recent immigrants preferential treatment” said no society ever!
Before he was murdered, I used to compare myself and Ennis Cosby -- we were both the same age and grad students in education, and I used to ask the Black deans and administrators (many of who knew Bill Cosby personally) how Ennis was more disadvantaged than I.
They really couldn't answer that...
If I were applying to college right now my essay would be about how hard it is growing up as a trans Muslim…all praise to Allah!!
Esp given his upbringing. Wife knew the Cosbys back when the kids were little. She ran the flower shop at the Hilton in Las Vegas, and would sneak the family in through her store, to evade the paparazzi. Went up to their suite several times for champagne (and Bill Cosby was the last guy she would have expected anything untoward from - always the perfect gentleman and dedicated family man). After Elvis, and his animal magnetism, her favorite star, in her working there. The point though is that Enis grew up in an intact, loving, family, with two devoted parents, living in expensive suites, at top tier hotels, when they traveled away from their mansion, so that his father could perform. The kids were always perfectly behaved. Everyone loved the family.
His estate in Western Massachusetts is so expensive that it screws up the town tax assessment for school aid -- mean versus median.
Yet another anecdote from Dr Ed that obviously never actually happened.
Last time I checked, (2 minutes ago) 0.4% of current NFL players are "Asian" (Coincidentally 0.4% of TBI patients are "Asian") and seems like everywhere I go Asians kids are walking home from work, playing football, will the discrimination ever end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
Frank "Speaks Asian Fruentry"
You left out all the Jewish quarterbacks.
Man I was so bummed when I found out Bernie Kosar wasn't a "Member"
I'm a Harvard graduate (1965), and my granddaughter is starting her sophomore year at UNC. I don't know about UNC, but I don't think Harvard is going to surrender.
Here are a few straws in the wind from the Harvard Gazette:
Harvard united in resolve in face of Supreme Court's admission ruling: Leaders emphasize "abiding values" behind mission to educate creative thinkers, deepen human knowledge, and promote progress.
President-elect Claudine Gay's message to the community: The decision "will change how we pursue the educational benefits of diversity. But our commitment to that work remains steadfast."
The fight for campus diversity — and the work that remains
Education, with its power to transform lives, has long been a focal point in the country's struggle to cultivate a pluralistic democracy.
It's not as clear cut as George Wallace's pledge: "I say . . . segregation today . . . segregation tomorrow . . . segregation forever."
But it's in the same spirit of opposition.
When the 5th Circuit outlawed affirmative action then governor Bush found a way around the ruling…I would bet Harvard administrators are smarter than Bush. 😉
“Education, with its power to transform lives, has long been a focal point in the country’s struggle to cultivate a pluralistic democracy.”
Yeah, the usual happy talk. Here’s the question: how exactly does racial diversity in the university cultivate a pluralistic democracy? If you get three people together in a room and one of them is Black, exactly how is pluralism being cultivated? What if you swap the Black guy out for an Asian? How exactly does that prevent pluralism from being cultivated?
Bah. None of these claims stand up to the slightest scrutiny. They’re just stand-ins, clay pots of actual ideas, they crumble at a touch.
If you replace all or nearly all the Black students with Asian students, you omit an important American experience and perspective from student interactions and academic discussions. The effect of this ruling, for any university that does what conservatives intend for them to do, is, effectively, segregation of Black students--diverting them away from the more privileged institutions towards the more desperate ones. A pluralistic democracy permits coalitions that leverage their resources to exert political power and advocate for their shared position. Policies that create large wealth gaps among disfavored groups reduce their ability to advocate for themselves effectively. So without the opportunity to build bridges and share their experience in university and without the wealth-building that can come from a college degree, these attempts to keep Black Americans part of an underclass damage plural democracy. Consider this just another aspect of the same efforts that go into gerrymandering districts to reduce the chance of electing a Black representative.
And what does that have to do with building a building or removing a brain tumor? Or trying to keep an innocent black man from getting railroaded?
It helps to not be viscerally afraid of Black people if you want to build a building.
Do you really think that people attending these selective universities either go into it being "viscerally afraid of black people" or are easily made such by seeing fewer of them? Not everyone will have your experience.
I think Somin and Roberts are viscerally afraid of black people. I think a great many of the comments on this thread reflect visceral fear of black people. I think if you asked black people, educated or uneducated, of whatever class, to read this commentary, they would agree that point after point reflects fear of black people. There is little in this decision, or in the present commentary about it, which is not based on visceral fear of black people.
I think this commentariat is as unlikely to recognize that as it is to consent to go unarmed among any group of black people, of whatever class or educational status. I read the crap on this thread and I find I can barely breathe for fear of where this nation, in its terrible ignorance, stark terror, and tacit malice, is headed, while it celebrates.
I think Lathrop hates Asians. Between his position on this case and his position on the Thomas Jefferson case, his comments reflect virulent hatred for Asians and their success.
Nonsense. Just a day ago I congratulated Neal Katyal on his SCOTUS victory. You got to admit, when it comes to winning Supreme Court cases, Katyal is in elite company. I celebrate that success.
I think your comment reeks of a visceral fear of black people and you need to deny vehemently that you have such a fear, so you point the finger at others imagining they share your visceral fear of black people.
It does seem that way, doesn't it?
Actually, the Voting Rights Act requires that districts be gerrymandered to ensure they are "majority minority" but not so much as to "dilute" the Black vote.
See Abby Thernstrom's _Voting Rights and Wrongs_.
As to the wealth gap, it's the 76% illegitimacy rate causing that.
And what you're saying otherwise is really quite racist -- you're saying that Blacks are inferior and that IS a racist thing to say.
It's not so much that the Voting Rights act requires it, as that the courts construed it to require it. Nothing in the statutory language itself seems to demand such a policy, and I doubt you could have gotten a statute that actually mandated such a policy through Congress.
Black people only exist in universities?
Conservatives are aiming for segregation of black students while a majority of universities implementing policies that actively segregate black students on their campuses (black-only dorms, classes, student facilities, graduation ceremonies) are promoting integration?
I think your White Savior ignorance and bigotry has gotten the best of you here.
They, along with Whites, could, you know, study harder.
Providing a predominantly Asian student body with more diverse hookup opportunities may be a worthy goal; it can not justify racial discrimination.
Perhaps. But the question isn't racial discrimination or not. It's explicit racial discrimination or implicit racial discrimination.
Thomas makes a good case for implicit racial discrimination. Roberts leaves the door open.
But personally, I prefer transparency to "subterfuge."
The Mass Governor and AG are essentially saying the same thing.
I’ve known white people that knew the only reason they were at an Ivy League school was because they were from a podunk town and just happened to be aware of a full scholarship someone set up…but I still think “diversity” is dumb because it gives preferential treatment to children of recent immigrants.
The upshot here is the universities were granted 45 years to level the playing field by legally discriminating against white students, and now that time has come to an end. I really don’t see a problem with that.
So, what are the results of 45 years of working on racism? Are universities less racist now? If not, then why not? Universities have been 100% run by people who profess they hate racism in all its forms. They have had complete run of the place, to do whatever they liked.
If racism still exists in universities, then arguably allowing legal discrimination against white people isn’t how you eradicate it.
And in that 45 years, were there no countervailing forces that sought to disadvantage Black Americans? ("War on Drugs;" racial profiling in policing, education, and healthcare; funding schools based on neighborhood home values; gerrymandering, etc.)
"Universities have been 100% run by people who profess they hate racism in all its forms." -- requires evidence. You also go from the goalpost of "less racist" to "if racism still exists."
Bullshyte.
Let's start with school funding -- here are the Mass Stats https://profiles.doe.mass.edu/statereport/ppx.aspx -- each state publishes these figures.
There ISN'T a clear racial gap.
If you think it’s even 10% as bad for blacks today as it was during Jim Crow, you’re deluded.
I was a teenager when the Good Ol' Boys Roundup scandal was exposed.
Except that's a lie and a strawman. Those are the federally mandated reporting categories, not the categories used internally by Harvard and UNC admissions. They made this super-clear in their briefs and at oral. The district court and the first circuit figured it out.
Yet here you are, perpetrating the lie. Pretty pathetic, because you must know it's a lie.
Just like Roberts and Gorsuch knew that they were lying. Just like they did in Kennedy. This activist conservative court has proven itself willing to make up facts to suit its preferred outcomes.
Fortunately, it's also destroyed stare decisis in its mission to steamroll precedent, which will make it oh so easy to toss all these decisions when the time comes.
Egregiously Wrong!
No, those are the categories used by Harvard and UNC. Why do you keep pretending that their Trump-quality BS on the subject has any credibility? You can't use a metric that you don't track.
Why wouldn’t they use more granular categories internally? Ilya’s lie doesn’t even make sense. They have no incentive to restrict themselves to the federally-imposed categories for admissions.
They testified that they do in fact track the more-granular categories internally.
UNC but not Harvard testified that they track "religion and country of origin and that sort of thing," and only if proffered; if you did any sort of data collection you'd know that's a bad way to track representative information. CoO is a piss poor way to track ethnicities anyway; in what way would a Kurd born to immigrants in Sweden help UNC's metrics by putting down Sweden, Iraq, or Turkey? Is it even very helpful when the universities insist that they rely on self-identification?
Isn’t the point of foreign students to get full tuition?? All of this is so dumb—the point of undergraduate education should be educate the most students with the fewest students/families going into debt. So maximize endowment spent on tuition and room and board while getting wealthy families to pay full tuition. So the private college down the street from me makes it easy—anyone who maxes out the state scholarship fund plus Pell Grants pays no more tuition. As long as we are maxing out that dynamic nobody should be complaining about anything.
Universities don’t have perfect information, and it’s not a 14A requirement that they do. I’m sure they wish they did.
In any case, Ilya’s lying.
International students, regardless of race, are defined as White by the feds.
(A) Because diversity is a euphemism adopted solely for superficial compliance with prior SCOTUS decisions, and using more granular categories would do nothing to advance their goals; and
(B) They don't collect the data to use more granular categories internally, so they have no choice.
Even if you were correct about A, you still lose, because
Assuming the goals of these Universities is to help disadvantaged Blacks, they'd still need more granular categories to do so (in this case socioeconomic and related ones).
But that's stupid anyway because it doesn't explain their treatment of Hispanics and Asians. If they only care about Blacks, why are they helping out Hispanics? If they care about all minorities, why do they discriminate against Asians instead of just white people? Or do you think all these universities all across the country are actually just secretly racist against Asians? I know you're not that stupid.
B is just false. People can put whatever they want on their applications.
How so? If the university is flooded with Asians, doesn't promoting diversity require admitting fewer Asians?
Only if "Asian" is a monolithic group.
Or you want more representation from any non-Asian groups.
I’m of Afro-Eurasian descent…boom goes the dynamite!
Thomas wholeheartedly endorsed "such subterfuges" today, as did other justices at oral argument.
This opinion is very clearly an unspoken -- or actually, pretty much spoken -- deal to allow racial preferences in higher education as long as they're sufficiently beneath the radar not to bear the "taint" of racial preferences.
That's all Thomas ever wanted. Read his opinion. He's in love with indirect racial preferences like HBCUs and California's "race-neutral alternatives." He's all good with giving minorities a leg up... as long as it's implicit. He thinks explicit preferences simply do more damage than good because then no one really trusts the outcomes, most especially the minority beneficiaries themselves. Better to just keep the whole system opaque.
They have to be because of Bush’s Top 10% Rule…all of this is just Kabuki Theater.
For someone who complains about hidden racism, you sure are full of it. I notice you can't bring yourself to actually quote any of Justice Thomas's concurrence that you think supports the spin you put on it.
Unlike Ilya, I don't lie.
That's right, he's lamenting Brown v. Board of Education for ruining an all-Black high school. He prefers segregation to affirmative action, because at least segregation avoids the zero-sum problem of college admissions, which can lead to racial butt-hurting:
None of that comes remotely close to saying "allow racial preferences in higher education as long as they’re sufficiently beneath the radar not to bear the “taint” of racial preferences."
For example, the whole thing about race-neutral policies is that they don't impose racial preferences.
Without endorsing Randals take, how do you feel about scholarships that can only go to HBCU students?
That's an interesting question.
Would these scholarships be available to anyone attending one of the Historically Black Colleges and Universities, regardless of race?
As of 2015, the average HBCU student body was 17% white, and 5% hispanic. Some, like West Virginia State University, are far beyond that - 75% white and only 8% black.
No, the whole thing about race-neutral policies is that they don't use individuals' race as the mechanism for imposing racial preferences.
But racial preferences remain the goal. How else do you think California and Michigan were able to ultimately get their minority admissions up higher than when they were using race as the explicit mechanism? What do you think the word "alternatives" means in "race-neutral alternatives?" The answer is the same to both questions: the universities are selecting students based on proxies for race, like "inner-city kids," "first-in-family college students," "economically disadvantaged kids," while at the same time decreasing their use of factors that tend to work against minorities, like grades and test scores. The goal of increasing student diversity, including racial diversity, remains. They're just constrained in how they go about implementing that goal.
Are you serious?
Even Volokh nods...
“If [anyone] can find in Title VII ... any language which provides that an employer will have to hire on the basis of percentage or quota related to color, race, religion, or national origin, I will start eating the pages one after another, because it is not in there.”
~ Hubert H. Humphrey
(1911-1978) US Vice-President, US Senator (D-MN)
during the debates over the Civil Rights Act of 1964
And for a non-lawyer that is the end of the story, no more blather, Mr Lawyer
Sotomayor dissent page 6 – “Simultaneously with the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, Congress enacted a number of race-conscious laws to fulfill the Amendment’s promise of equality, leaving no doubt that the Equal Protection Clause permits consideration of race to achieve its goal. One such law was the Freedmen’s Bureau Act, enacted in 1865 and then expanded in 1866, which established a federal agency to provide certain benefits to refugees and newly emancipated freedmen.”
You would think sotomayor would have been understanding of legal history and important distinctions in law. The laws passed were to benefit freed slaves as a class, not to benefit a specific race as a class. While the two classes overlap, the important distinction is benefits were for the first class - ie the former slaves.
Jackson's dissent was advocating for the institutionalization of perpetual discrimination.
Does Jackson lack a basic grasp of the meaning of 14A.
Quick answer,
"No"
The Court issued a single opinion in both cases, based, in both, on an exhaustive examination of the Equal Protection Clause. But Harvard is a private institution, and the Equal Protection Clause applies only to states and state governmental entities. There should have been an analysis examining the applicable statutes, e.g. the Civil Rights Act.
The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1965 and amended multiple times since. It is logically possible, it is not a foregone conclusion, that the Civil Rights Act imposes fewer limitations on a private entity’s “diversity and inclusion” efforts than the Equal Protection Clause imposes on state entities.
To decide Harvard’s case, the Court needed a separate opinion that engaged in the appropriate statutory construction.
A single opinion for both, ignoring the fact that the two cases have to be based on two potentially different legal frameworks, looks like ideological imposition, an assertion of the Justices’ personal opinion, not a fair attempt to discern and ascertain the law. And stating that the Equal Protection Clause decides Harvard’s case when Harvard is not subject to the Equal Protection Clause simply makes no sense.
The Justices needed to have explained, thoroughly and carefully, why (in their view) the law for private entities is the same as the law for state entities. They pretty much ignored the difference. That was wrong.
ReaderY, I wondered about some of the same issues, especially the use of the Equal Protection Clause against Harvard. It is hard to imagine Roberts would not have thought of that. Is it possible there is some kind of sketchy attempt going on to lay groundwork for future use of the Equal Protection Clause to accomplish objectives which the Civil Rights Act could not reach? As a non-lawyer that is a question beyond my competence, but it made me wonder.
Footnote 2 from the decision, you may have missed it:
"2 Title VI provides that “[n]o person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.” 42 U. S. C. §2000d. “We have explained that discrimination that violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment committed by an institution that accepts federal funds also constitutes a violation of Title VI.” Gratz v. Bollinger, 539 U. S. 244, 276, n. 23 (2003). Although JUSTICE GORSUCH questions that proposition, no party asks us to reconsider it. We accordingly evaluate Harvard’s admissions program under the standards of the Equal Protection Clause itself."
See Gorsuch's concurring opinion
“2 Title VI provides that “[n]o person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.”
No, it didn't. That statutory construction was already done by SCOTUS, at least as far back as Bakke, and nobody asked for it to be overruled. It's established law that they are not two "different legal frameworks."
It's a great decision from my vantage because I worked under Census and CFPB regs that demanded I check for racial and other discrimination in mortgage lending but would not even let me proxy the race !!!!
"For consumer lending such as auto loans, credit cards, and personal loans FIs aren’t even allowed to ask or collect race or ethnicity in most cases.
As a result, lenders have to determine borrowers’ ethnicity and race using “proxy” data, or data based on the FI’s best estimates using the information it does have, including publicly available demographic data."
But anyone who has done this will tell you the results are crap.
They also force good minority lenders out of the market because the big banks seek out minority lenders and know they are bad risks but they write off because the CFPB fines are much much worse.
EG
CFPB Orders Wells Fargo to Pay $3.7 Billion
Well how are you going to reduce the impact of all of the things that happened generations upon generations ago? Because if you don’t and just keep trying the SOS you’re going to get the same shit result.
People in certain subgroups just aren’t being well prepared for upper level things. Instead of acknowledging that we just holler racism. Now it’s the standardized tests and the English language.
There are issues upstream of universities related to certain subgroups that need to be addressed, but our political class finds it easier to just scream “racism”. That ain’t working. And going forward it won’t, either.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-moynihan-report-an-annotated-edition/404632/
Texas has been dealing with this for years and so these 6 justices know this ruling is of little consequence.
Seems consistent with Rokster v. Goldberg and the "Raise Armies" clause of the Constitution.
It's not an exemption; it's a deferral of that issue until it's actually properly before the court.
Justice Thomas is probably like Trump in that being attacked by Democrats made him a Freedumb Cockup RepooplicKKKunt. Contrast that with Kavanaugh who was involved in politics and knows how people get attacked and how attacking Democrats is necessary when your goal is slaughtering innocent Muslims and so he isn’t a big flappy pussy like Trump and Thomas.
They should have said that -- although I believe that the majority of military officers come out of ROTC programs in the state universities.
The average Black male high school graduate has the reading and writing ability of the average White 7th Grade girl.
THAT's a big part of the college gap....
Queen, who is at fault for the limited change in performance of blacks at the college level? Who is failing to educate them at the lower levels? Perhaps a little less time spent on gender fluidity and a little bit more on math might help…….
It is not the job of Harvard to provide a divetse selectionif sexual hookup opportunities.
This is what I hate about typing on a phone.
I thought that might be the case, but honestly was too lazy to look.
I would love to see minorities (blacks and Hispanics) educated on the same level as other races at the K-12 level. That would fix all this stuff. But I fear it won’t happen in my lifetime between appalling performance among big city school districts and some cultural problems within the communities themselves.
Be nice though….
Yea, they have a degree in Black Studies. Wow....
I don't doubt that the percentage of the black population with a college degree is much higher; The percentage of the overall population with a college degree is higher, after all; When I went to college back in the 70's, going to college was the exception. Now it's the usual thing to do.
Blacks still enroll and graduate from college at a much lower rate than other racial/ethnic groups, though.
I don’t see it ever becoming an issue. That’s because many of the appointments to the service academies are intensely political, at least to the extent that they are made by members of Congress. Imagine telling such that they can’t appoint a kid of one of their biggest donors because he had the wrong skin color. And then the question of why this member was being deprived of his choice, and some others weren’t. Besides, having a racially diverse officer Corp to lead racially diverse enlisted ranks is much easier to justify (and pass strict scrutiny), than for a college or university.
Except that ROTC produces 70% of Army officers, 83% of USMC officers, 61% of Navy and 63% of USAF officers.
It's the overwhelming majority, and ROTC is in regular civilian colleges and universities, affected by today's decision.
That would show up in the NAEP and hasn't.
I agree, we need to complain more about the left's racism.
The right side of the political spectrum should point out the lefts infatuation with promoting racism.
Graph of out of wedlock births by race.
My position is that the "War on Poverty" damaged blacks worse, because they were disproportionately situated to BE damaged, but that it similarly damaged everybody who was similarly situated.
Now, Jim Crow had something to do with blacks being so situated at a higher rate than whites, that much is true. But it still wasn't the actual cause of today's problems.
This matters, because if you want to fix problems you need to know what actually caused them. Not why they happened to be where the cause occurred half a century or more ago.