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Court Preliminarily Enjoins Minority Business Development Agency Race- and Ethnicity-Based Funding
The case is Nuziard v. Minority Business Dev. Agency, decided Monday by Judge Mark Pittman (N.D. Tex.); here's the summary of the program:
To qualify as a "minority business enterprise" [under the MBDA], a "socially or economically disadvantaged individual" must manage the business's operations and own at least 51% of it. An individual is presumed to be a "socially or economically disadvantaged individual" if they are Black, African American, Hispanic, Latino, American Indian, Alaska Native, Asian, Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander, Puerto-Rican, Eskimo, Hasidic Jew, Asian Indian, or a Spanish-speaking American. But any other race or ethnicity is not considered "socially or economically disadvantaged" and thus ineligible for the center's services….
And here's the court's opening paragraph:
The Constitution demands equal treatment under the law. Any racial classification subjecting a person to unequal treatment is subject to strict scrutiny. To withstand such scrutiny, the government must show that the racial classification is narrowly tailored to a compelling government interest. In this case, the Minority Business Development Agency's business center program provides services to certain races and ethnicities but not to others. Because the Government has not shown that doing so is narrowly tailored to a compelling government interest, it is preliminary enjoined from providing unequal treatment to Plaintiffs….
Note that the challenge was just to race- and ethnicity-based funding, so it might be that the preference for Hasidic Jews isn't covered. The term "Jews" can refer both to an ethnic group and a religious group, depending on the context; but "Hasidic Jews" seems to me to refer just to a religious group (albeit one whose self-identification tends to turn on ancestry as well as religious practice). Nonetheless, the court's analysis suggests that this preference is as unconstitutional as the others.
Congratulations to Richard M. Esenberg, Daniel P. Lennington & Cara M. Tolliver of the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty, and to Jason C. Nash, all of whom represent plaintiffs.
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The best way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.
A simply prescription suitable for simpletons.
And bigots who no longer wish to be known as bigots (because better Americans have made bigotry less fashionable).
Sometimes questions have simple answers, Arthur. Only a simpleton would thing otherwise.
Wasn't too long ago that the top golfer in Amurica was Black (OK, Tiger said he was "Cablinasian") #1 Rapper was White, and the only President you could find on record using the N-word, was our only N-word President. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92baDJVZcCo
AIDS, your express aim is to destroy Islam. You feign to respect and support Islamic immigration to the USA, whilst it's abundantly clear that you wish to subvert their belief system and use them as mere clay as part of your -- wholly non-empirical -- grandiose social engineering project to make a new American person and culture. You aren't merely bigoted against them AIDS, you are Islam's mortal enemy.
Any rational Muslim person reading this blog would see that you are the mortal enemy of their faith. It would therefore be rational for them to find you and slaughter you.
Sure. If society really was a meritocracy, where everyone had equal opportunity for economic success in life, then all we would need to do to correct past discrimination is to stop discriminating. Everything would even out before long. Do you really think we live in that kind of world, though?
What's your stopping function for this belief?
I mean what data would you need to see that make you go, "past discrimination has been atoned for, we don't have to do any more racial preferences "?
I start with a premise that there are no statistically significant differences in inherent ability between different racial and ethnic groups, that couldn't also be explained by differences in current socio-economic conditions.
If the premise is true, then it stands to reason that a perfectly meritocratic society would result in no statistically significant differences in economic outcomes among different groups. Instead, we see that groups that were subject to severe economic discrimination at the time that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed are still well behind the white majority, don't we?
That shouldn't be surprising to anyone. The myth of the American Dream being obtainable equally to anyone willing to pull themselves up by their bootstraps is exactly that - a myth. Being born into a higher wealth tier makes obtaining economic success far more likely than for those born into lower tiers. No group that starts out with far less generational wealth at the time that discrimination is finally dealt with can catch up simply because discrimination stops. (Not that discrimination did stop completely, anyway. Outlawing discrimination in hiring, housing, education, and so on doesn't make it go away like magic.)
Do you think that the statistically significant differences in economic outcomes among Jews, Asians, and other groups are the result of past discrimination in their favor? Should we discriminate against them until other groups have equal outcomes?
Systemic issues are not intentional racism. They don't need to mean only white people benefit, they just mean the meritocracy is borked.
Do you think that the statistically significant differences in economic outcomes among Jews, Asians, and other groups are the result of past discrimination in their favor? Should we discriminate against them until other groups have equal outcomes?
Is the difference in economic outcomes between whites and blacks in America due to past discrimination in favor of whites? Yes. But it does not follow from that assertion that any group that does better than blacks received benefits from discrimination against blacks.
The real problem here is the zero-sum thinking on how to deal with the effects of past discrimination. Programs like these are seen as taking from whites (and high achieving minority groups like some Asian ethnicities). I don't see it that way. At least, they don't have to be set up in way that would harm other groups.
People applying for a job, entry into college, to get business contract, or whatever, would expect fairness to be neutral criteria related only to the merits of their application affecting whether they are accepted. I think everyone would agree on that, in principle.
But what do we do when some people were disadvantaged (such as by past discrimination against their racial or ethnic group) in obtaining the education, credit worthiness, or other criteria of what they are applying for?
My belief is that it is fair to put extra resources towards helping people in those groups at various steps along the way to economic success. Such as, helping them build up the qualities and credentials that are used in reaching later steps to success like higher education or starting businesses. And some assistance can also be warranted within those steps.
Fairness is a nebulous and inherently subjective concept. For some people fairness is always applying neutral and objective criteria in choosing between individual candidates for something. For others, that wouldn't be fair since people have unequal opportunities before they even become candidates. Even though it is true that life isn't fair, that is a pithy and cliche response to obvious inequalities and is no excuse to do nothing about it.
Ethnicities by household income in the US:
Indian: $141,906
Taiwanese: $119,022
Australian: $99,033
Iranian: $96,056
South African: $94,159
Lebanese: $92,697
European: $91,857
Macedonian: $91,852
Russian: $90,296
Austrian: $89,459
Croatian: $88,325
Turkish: $87,648
Lithuanian: $87,433
Greek: $87,428
British: $87,288
Swiss: $85,543
Albanian: $85,092
Serbian: $84,607
Danish: $84,520
Scandinavian: $84,518
Bulgarian: $84,437
Italian: $84,416
Slovene: $84,261
Czech: $83,823
Armenian: $83,756
Slovak: $83,755
Ukrainian: $83,723
Guyanese: $83,412
Scottish: $83,342
Portuguese: $82,925
Polish: $82,846
Swedish: $82,731
Syrian: $82,532
Belgian: $82,469
Israeli: $82,436
Romanian: $81,768
Canadian: $81,576
English: $81,200
Norwegian: $81,168
Hungarian: $80,684
Finnish: $79,215
German: $78,960
Irish: $78,949
Yugoslav: $78,560
Welsh: $78,025
Scotch-Irish: $77,802
French Canadian: $76,292
French: $75,783
Palestinian: $75,521
Czechoslovakian: $75,453
Egyptian: $74,848
Dutch: $74,717
Arab: $72,943
Slavic: $72,787
Ghanaian: $72,089
Barbadian: $72,053
Trinidadian and Tobagonian: $71,920
Nigerian: $71,465
Brazilian: $70,904
Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac: $70,692
Cajun: $66,476
Jamaican: $65,789
Jordanian: $65,607
Belizean: $63,785
West Indian: $63,597
British West Indian: $63,213
Pennsylvania Dutch: $62,436
Moroccan: $61,773
Haitian: $60,169
American: $59,995
Subsaharan African: $58,881
Ethiopian: $58,507
Iraqi: $57,067
Arab / Arabic: $52,578
Afghan: $52,197
Appalachian: $49,747
Black American: $46,774
Somali: $38,821
Do you think the data support your beliefs?
What is the source? This list looks really odd. Arab/Arabic is listed at $52,578, but then there is also Arab higher up at $72,943. I also don't see any Latino/Hispanic groups listed, nor are Native Americans. Where would I fit in there? Do I use Norwegian, French Canadian, or German, given my family tree that includes all of those? Is it even consistently categorizing people by ancestry or is this a list coming from people that are recent immigrants?
The data you presented neither supports nor refutes my assertions because it is so unclear what it even is.
It's a list of household incomes by ethnicity from Wiki.
I state what it is at top of the list.
There are 75+ ethnicities outranking American Whites in household income. Many of them of the black, brown, and yellow persuasions.
NB: The list of ethnic groups (by ancestry) seems to have been arbitrarily curated, since it excludes many Asian-American ethnic groups whose household incomes are significantly higher than those listed below. In addition, the table omits Americans of Native American ancestry as well as Americans of Hispanic or Latino ethnicity. Interestingly it also includes European as a "detailed ancestry". Very arguably, all major tables on this page should be combined.
This note was right above the list you copied for your comment. (Wikipedia can be good, but it depends greatly on how thorough the writers are and how careful they are at checking sources. That particular table is suspect.)
If you think that page is useful, then the table at the top at least takes its data from one clear source. (Median household income 2021 - American Community Survey by the Census Bureau)
Asian Americans $100,572
White Americans $74,932
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander $69,973
United States (general population) $69,717
Some other race $57,671
American Indian and Alaska Native $53,148
African Americans (Black American) $46,774
There are 75+ ethnicities outranking American Whites in household income. Many of them of the black, brown, and yellow persuasions.
Following one of the references to the census data page, I find that "French Canadian" ethnicity, for instance, consists of like 97% native born American citizens. That is, they are white. Similar percentages apply to those that are "German", "European", etc. Whereas, many ethnicities include high percentages of those born in those countries. That 'detailed ancestry' table you copied is just not useful in this discussion.
Even working from your own flawed premises, your logic is awful. Being able to explain differences by either A (differences in inherent abilities) or B (differences in current socio-economic conditions) doesn't mean diddly about systemic racism.
I'm not sure what you are saying, exactly. My argument only depends on the existence of past systemic racism, which I think we can all agree existed, yes? What I am saying is that even if we assume that we fixed that past systemic discrimination 50 years ago, the persistence of large inequalities of economic outcomes between whites and those groups that were subjected to such discrimination would be evidence that stopping discrimination isn't enough.
Your premise is false, as Dr. Sowell, among others, has pointed out repeatedly.
Is it? How has Dr. Sowell, among others, shown that people from different racial and ethnic groups have inherent differences in ability that can't also be explained by the socio-economic differences themselves? For instance, academic achievement and results of ability tests later in life depends not just on innate intelligence at birth, but also the environment that a child grows up within. Nutrition, exposure to toxins (such as with lead poisoning), and so on will all have an impact. How sure can we be that things we use to try and measure innate ability, like IQ tests, are really separating out educational opportunities, language fluency, and many other variables?
Just saying that your favorite public intellectuals have shown my premise to be false does not prove it false. It is just an appeal to authority.
1. Shouldn’t you try to do the empirical work to see if your premise (assumption) is true first? Isn’t it a perfectly valid, and important, scientific question before you go off trying to create legal responses?
2. The preponderance of American whites are poor and have never received higher education. If what you say is true about starting points, then why isn’t a class lens MORE salient than a racial one?
1. The null hypothesis would be that race and ethnicity have no relationship to inherent ability. Any empirical work would have to prove that hypothesis wrong. I am comfortable assuming that the null hypothesis is correct until someone else does the work to show that it is wrong. Besides, there are so many confounding variables (like you mention in 2.), that I am skeptical that anyone claiming to have disproved it has really done so. (See controversy over Charles Murray and "The Bell Curve")
That there is clearly not any academic consensus on this question, leaves me with some choices. I could try and study this like it was my job to do so, and do original research worthy of publication in social science journals. I could read through thousands of pages of such research that professionals have done. Or, I could continue with my assumption that the null hypothesis is correct until someone that doesn't accept that premise can show me evidence that would be convincing. I chose the last option. As well as all of that, it has the virtue of not requiring me to consider any racial or ethnic group as being inherently inferior to others.
2. Class is an important part of what we are talking about. It is part of my reasoning that upward mobility isn't as likely as most Americans think it is or should be. People with less wealth or income are clearly at a disadvantage at gaining more wealth or increasing their income compared to those that are already in the higher rungs. I would certainly like to see efforts to reduce this gap in opportunity reduced for everyone without the wealth and income to make success easier for themselves.
But the difference between poor white people and poor people of color in this country, though, is the history of systemic racism and discrimination, most obviously targeting black people.
The null hypothesis could just as well be the contrary of your framing, and your comfortability is simply a function of your political prejudices (as evidenced, for example, by the last line of your second paragraph). Perhaps you ought to approach the production of scholarship without wholly prejudicing it methods or results with a given ethico-political ideology?
Your bald assertion about the difference between the outcomes for poor whites and other poor populations in America, in terms of systemic racism, also just begs the question. The very claim of systemic racism, in other words, including its being the predominant factor (over class considerations) is itself a contested hypothesis. It's exactly what some classical socialists deny (whilst also asserting that racism itself was a capitalist tool to help buttress class stratification in America), and why they try to provide empirical evidence showing why class is the more important feature in an explanation.
No, I stated a null hypothesis correctly, because that's what a null hypothesis is - that there is no relationship between two variables under examination. Anyone suggesting that two variables are connected has to disprove the null hypothesis.
The very claim of systemic racism, in other words, including its being the predominant factor (over class considerations) is itself a contested hypothesis.
What's contested about more than two centuries of slavery followed by a century of Jim Crow and open discrimination being common even outside of the South?
What’s contested? Cause and effect. For one thing, whether class considerations drove racism. For another, whether ‘systemic racism’ can explain observed phenomena today.
One example of that latter is Adolph Reed’s claim, which challenges whether police-induced killings are indeed a function of systemic racism. Like others, Reed argues that the data suggest that the rates of police killings of civilians are proportionately the same in areas/states with low black populations (ie police shooting and otherwise killing whites there) as states with large black populations. Thus police killings in the USA are better explained in terms of class, ie, that blacks deaths at the hands of cops are generally due to their class status (as poor), not their race.
*Where the whites killed in those other states are generally from the same class.
"If the premise is true, then it stands to reason that a perfectly meritocratic society would result in no statistically significant differences in economic outcomes among different groups."
No, it does not. You are completely ignoring cultural factors and values that would affect such outcomes, and which do not bear on how "meritocratic" society is (whatever that means).
Just for illustration, most people do not order their entire lives solely to maximize "economic outcomes." And quite rationally so.
With that being said -- of course, "society" is not "perfectly meritocratic," it will never be so. This idea is inherently extremely subjective, utopian and should not be a goal. Making systems incrementally more merit-based in general would be a fine goal though.
Well Jason, we can't be too far from there. My wife was telling me a story about some people she met a couple of weeks ago, a middle aged couple that had migrated from Cambodia about 5-10 years ago. They don't speak English but found a job making sandwiches for a firm that packages and sells them in supermarkets and convenience stores. Most of the other employees are spanish speaking and don't speak english either.
The couple using nothing but their savings since they came here and their current income just bought a house in the phoenix area.
If they can do it, by making sandwiches at minimum wage, with no English skills, then who cant?
If they can do it, by making sandwiches at minimum wage, with no English skills, then who cant?
I'm sure I could find an anecdote of someone that faced similar obstacles that is still poor and homeless if I try. But I'm sure it was just that they were too lazy to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right?
Anecdotes are not powerful arguments, no matter how sympathetic the people in them are.
JasonT20 6 hours ago
If they can do it, by making sandwiches at minimum wage, with no English skills, then who cant?
I’m sure I could find an anecdote of someone that faced similar obstacles that is still poor and homeless if I try. But I’m sure it was just that they were too lazy to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right?
jason - you make an excellent point which refutes the premise of your argument.
the example Kazinski used was a very disadvantaged couple that pulled themselves up the economic ladder through hard work in spite of disadvantages vastly exceeding the disadvantages of a typical african american.
This belief in "past discrimination " and "systemic racism" has become a crutch / an excuse to forsake the hard work that others have used to achieve success. Blaming past discrimination is a far greater impediment to success than any actual past discrimination.
Why did you switch from "stop discrimination" to "correct past discrimination"?
Surely you realize those are not the same thing.
Surely you realize those are not the same thing.
I think my point is that stopping discrimination isn't enough to correct past discrimination, so, yes? Unless your point is that trying to correct past discrimination shouldn't be the goal, I don't get your issue with my comment.
What's that saying? "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."?
Look, the obvious problem with your scheme, is that you're trying to correct past discrimination by present discrimination. Against people who didn't commit that past discrimination! That last part is really, really important.
You want to think you're the good guy, but you're not. You're just another bad guy.
Now, I know what you're going to say: They might not have personally committed the wrong, but they were unjustly enriched by it. Right?
No, actually they weren't. Discrimination isn't a zero sum game, it's a negative sum game, because it's economically irrational. It destroys potential wealth without making the people it's NOT practiced against wealthier.
But even if that weren't true, what IS true is that you're just perpetuating the cycle of discrimination, creating another generation of victims with a valid claim to having been wronged.
Really, it IS true: The only way to stop discrimination is to stop discriminating.
Disclaimer: Obviously, if you want to voluntarily pay reparations for the sins of some long dead guy who might have looked a bit like you, that's your right. Have fun! Just leave everybody else out of it.
He's also ignoring that his cycle is perpetual. If you have to correct past discrimination with present discrimination, you never stop. Because the people you are discriminating against now in order to "fix" past discrimination (or actually, their descendants, even if they never were discriminated against) are then entitled to discrimination in their favor.
So no, you're wrong. The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race - is to stop discriminating on the basis of race. Stop grouping people together based on things like skin color and treating them as undifferentiated masses.
This is a great comment, because it encapsulates the simplistic white resentment mindset. To be clear you don't need to be like this to be against affirmative action, but it seems to be quite common around here!
- Affirmative action is not punishment, nor eye for an eye.
- Discrimination is not negative sum *if the meritocracy isn't perfect*.
- It's not economically irrational to tap talent pools that are currently being neglected.
- 'the current system where whites and Asians are disproportionately at the top is the best of all possible worlds' is a telling worldview.
- You want to think you’re the good guy, but you’re not. You’re just another bad guy. Yes, just another oppressor of white people. Listen to yourself.
- Really, it IS true: The only way to stop discrimination is to stop discriminating. You understand path-dependent processes, yes? You seem to forget this idea real quick when it comes to policymaking
“Affirmative action is not punishment, nor eye for an eye.”
Do you think that the people you discriminate against, in order to discriminate in favor of other people, really care? Peter does not CARE that your goal in robbing him is to pay Paul, nor should he.
“Discrimination is not negative sum *if the meritocracy isn’t perfect*.”
Just because the meritocracy isn’t perfect doesn’t mean the discrimination isn’t negative sum. Surely you understand this? Discrimination makes meritocracy LESS perfect!
“It’s not economically irrational to tap talent pools that are currently being neglected.”
But we’re talking about affirmative action as it actually exists, not as it was proposed for a year or two right at the beginning.
” ‘the current system where whites and Asians are disproportionately at the top is the best of all possible worlds’ is a telling worldview.”
I have no idea whether it’s the best of all worlds, but bringing whites and Asians down just for the purpose of bringing them down isn’t likely to make it a better world.
“You want to think you’re the good guy, but you’re not. You’re just another bad guy. Yes, just another oppressor of white people. Listen to yourself.”
Yes, he’s exactly that: He’s advocating racially discriminating against innocent people. That makes him the bad guy, no matter how he tries to justify it in his own mind.
“Really, it IS true: The only way to stop discrimination is to stop discriminating. You understand path-dependent processes, yes? You seem to forget this idea real quick when it comes to policymaking”
Yes, I understand path dependence. Do you understand “sunk costs”?
Ah! So you think that when blacks were denied jobs in favor of less qualified whites, it wasn't a "punishment" against the blacks?
There is zero effective difference between disfavoring some groups and favoring all other groups. It is nothing but dishonest to pretend otherwise.
You don't oppose racial discrimination. You're just arguing to justify your preferred version of it.
Then why did you respond to a quote about stopping discrimination with a claim about "correcting past discrimination"?
If you DID mean something entirely different, why did you respond to the post at all, considering you addressed absolutely zero content from it?
The best way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.
That line comes from CJ John Roberts writing in his majority opinion in Parents Involved (2007). That case held that a school district could not use race as a consideration when assigning students to schools in order to make individual schools match the demographics of the district as a whole. (Unless it was correcting de jure segregation, which should have happened long before 2007)
What did you think Kazinski's purpose was in quoting Roberts? I think it is most obviously understood to say that stopping discrimination is the end of any necessary effort to meet the broader goal of equality under the law or equality of opportunity in socio-economic terms. And perhaps, like so many others in this thread, he believes that any race conscious effort to correct for past discrimination is just another form of discrimination now. I don't see the term used very often anymore, but I used to see this referred to as "reverse discrimination" a lot. I am expressing disagreement with that sentiment. I am not going off on some tangent. I am directly addressing the original posted comment.
I seriously doubt Kazinski was making a reference to Robert's similar phrase. The phrase, like many other pithy phrases, has long since enter the vernacular as a self-contained concept.
Using the phrase to mean exactly what it says (especially in the non-quote adapted form Kazinski used) works quite well without trying to drag in what you think the context of a different ruling 16 years ago was. When you look at Kazinski's other comments, such a conclusion is quite clear. Well, to anyone that doesn't wan't to twist and defend their off-topic attack on a strawman.
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Isn’t ‘Eskimo’ a racist term?
Aren’t a lot of Asian Americans and Spanish-speaking Americans quite wealthy?
Aren’t most American Whites poor? Why wasn’t ‘Appalachian’ considered to be a relevant group for protected designation?
Why don’t red teamers show this to middle class and poor whites to make it clear to them why it’s fundamentally against their interests to vote blue? They don’t need some ‘Southern Strategy’ to win. IF your middle class really is shrinking, and your poor are getting poorer, then how is it in your interest as a whitey to support this — all whilst the various government permit the dumping millions of Spanish-speaking illiterates into the country?
(I’m being facetious of course: it’s obvious to the rest of the world that the red team establishment wants these developments just as much as the blue team. Christie-Haley-Pence-DeSantis should be stitched together as a human centipede and be allowed to run for president as one person.)
Did anyone ever identify the screen name Robert Bowers used at the Volokh Conspiracy?
It was "Jerry Sandusky" oh wait, that's you.
It always amazes me that progressives are fine with rank discrimination against not only whites, but also other minorities. (It's like the purposeful discrimination of Asian Americans in higher (and now even lower) education. Do they not think Asians faced past racial discrimination?) I mean, I understand that racial preferences are today what they've always been, namely, political patronage for favored groups, whether white or minority. And some minorities aren't politically powerful and impactful enough to compete for such patronage against more-beneficial voting blocks--especially if they are willing to vote Republican in significant numbers. But the blatancy of it is astounding.
That's because regardless of what the left says, it's not about "past racial discrimination," but about quotas. Asians have an average IQ above that of whites, so they don't need the discrimination in order to reach parity (or beyond) in outcome with whites. Blacks, with their average IQs of 85 and their poor impulse control and future time orientation, are genetically incapable of competing with whites without discrimination in their favor.
“Liberals” and “progressives” are shameless hypocrites. They support racist crap like this while patting themselves on the back for being “anti-racist.” It’s truly astonishing.
Remember to even be "anti-racist" one must be openly racist against certain groups.
Oh, they outcry this will cause!
While unpopular to say out loud, many minority business exist only because considerably lower expectations apply to minority-owned businesses: the entire equity movement effectively bemoans the disappearance of the "white man's burden" and seeks to reestablish that burden. Is it time to eliminate each "racial classification subjecting a person to unequal treatment" and to re-assert "equal treatment under the law"? Or is is still necessary for the white man to bear the burden of caring for the less capable members of the population and to urge savages to participate in society?
Oddly enough, advocates of so-called equity policies favor the latter approach -- and this would seem to be a stance that is most humiliating to capable non-Caucasians.
It’s also a time honored tradition for there to be a one or two person “minority owned business” for government contracting purposes. The “business” is that they get the contract from the government because they have the correct color skin, then they subcontract it out to a real business who does the work. Nice work if you’re born with the right melanin.
It's usually a certain percentage of a contract must go to minority or female owned subcontractors and why highway projects in Massachusetts are so damn expensive.
But if SCOTUS ever struck this down -- wow...
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AIDS: always trolling, always missing the mark, never touches upon the merits due to incompetency.
Do you and your loved ones have a running bet about when the ‘disaffected’ American whites are going to kill y’all? Beyond just your immediate family, how many casualties do you reckon there will be over the next decade? How many refugees from the USA to the rest of the West?
The "Minority Business Development Agency" is obviously Slanted against Asian-Amuricans, it's Black and White!
How many businesses has Obama helped to create (BLM doesn't count)?
The details don't matter. He didn't build that.