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"Appeasement"? Or, Avoiding Error?
Justice Breyer did not always vote with the Court’s strict-separationist justices. Good for him.
I appreciate the invitation to blog, here at The Volokh Conspiracy, about a recent (short!) paper of mine, "Justice Breyer and the Establishment Clause." I set out the background and context for the paper in an earlier post. In this one, I summarize my account of what I regard as the first of the three distinctive features of Justice Breyer's judicial legacy with respect to the First Amendment's no-establishment rule.
Scholars and informed commentators know that the just-so story about the Supreme Court in which most cases are decided along ideological or partisan lines is misleading. That said, it cannot be denied that the Court's cases involving the Establishment Clause are regularly resolved by close votes that track familiar "liberal" and conservative" classifications.
Justice Breyer's record, though, is interesting. He was confirmed in the summer of 1994, replacing Justice Harry Blackmun, just a few weeks after the Court handed down a splintered 6-3 ruling in the Kiryas Joel case, holding that New York had violated the Establishment Clause by creating a new school district that tracked the boundaries of a village inhabited entirely by Satmar Hasidim. Just one year later, Justice Breyer revealed his reservations about inflexible judicial policing of a strict form of public secularism: In Capitol Square, he joined concurring opinions by Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and David Souter rejecting the claim that it unconstitutionally "endorsed" religion for an official body to permit a private group to display a cross during the Christmas season in Columbus, Ohio's Capitol Square. On the same day, he dissented, with Justice Souter and two other "liberal" justices, in Rosenberger, insisting that the Free Speech Clause did not require, and the Establishment Clause did not permit, the University of Virginia's Student Activities Fund to pay the printing expenses of a Christian newspaper.
There are other examples, going in each direction. The best-known instance and illustration of Justice Breyer's church-state intuitions is his concurring opinion in Van Orden v. Perry, the Texas Ten Commandments case. Having joined Justice Souter and three other justices in concluding that two displays of the Ten Commandments on the walls of Kentucky courthouses lacked a "secular purpose" and so violated the Establishment Clause, he then concurred with an entirely different group of four colleagues' determination that a six-feet-tall Ten Commandments monument on the grounds of the Texas State Capitol did not.
A reasonable question is whether the mere fact that he voted as he did amounts to a "distinctive" feature of his judicial work relating to the Establishment Clause. Two leading scholars of American law and religion, Micah Schwartzman and Nelson Tebbe, have proposed a reading of that work in which Justice Breyer's defections from "liberal" colleagues' strict-separationist dissents are evaluated as instances of "appeasement." "Appeasement", in their analysis, is "a sustained strategy of offering unilateral concessions for the purpose of avoiding further conflict, but with the self-defeating effect of emboldening the other party to take more assertive actions." They suggest that "appeasement carries particular risks in judicial decision making: Not only can it "affect outcomes", it also "can influence constitutional legitimacy by "lend[ing] credence" to a "conservative" majority's decision, "thereby weaken[ing] dissenting views." Appeasement, they contend, "may also impact the range of constitutional interpretations that are taken seriously at a given time, by lending "plausibility" to "[a]rguments that might have been considered extreme" and by weakening the force of a "powerful" dissent that can "provide a counterweight to efforts by a majority to alter the boundaries of accepted constitutional argument."
I am not convinced. First, the "appeasement" characterization builds on claims about the alleged appeasers' intent: "[A]ppeasement . . . depends on an actor's intent or motivation. Appeasement cannot be undertaken entirely by mistake; instead, it requires a deliberate course of conduct." In my judgment, however, Tebbe and Schwartzman have not convincingly refuted the competing possibility to "appeasement", namely, that Justice Breyer voted as he did in religious-freedom and church-state cases "on the basis of constitutional principle and precedent, according to [his] own interpretation[]."
A second, related, reservation: It is a premise of the "appeasement" argument that the "conservative" Establishment Clause decisions Justice Breyer joined when he parted company with other "liberal" justices were not only wrongly decided, but "assertive", "aggressive", and even "off the wall." His colleagues' rejected dissents are characterized glowingly, as "powerful", "ringing", "principled", and so on. As I see it, though, the decisions in question were correct and the dissenters who were left "isolate[d]" were wrong. That is, in each case that Justice Breyer rejected the argument that a particular practice, action, or policy violated the Establishment Clause, he was not engaging in a "risky", error-enabling strategy or undermining supposedly "powerful" dissents; he was, instead, correctly answering the question presented. This is true even if, in some of these cases, doing so involved re-fashioning, clarifying, limiting, or even abandoning some "preexisting", but misguided, "doctrine[s]."
For a few decades, the Supreme Court's doctrines and holdings relating to the First Amendment's Establishment Clause often reflected an ahistorical, impractical, and morally unsound understanding of church-state separation. This understanding continues to be taken for granted by many, particularly in the American legal academy. More recently, though, the justices have been gradually correcting the Court's earlier mistakes. This development is regularly characterized as the work of the Court's "conservative" justices; it is seen by some scholars, including Tebbe and Schwartzman, as a "collapse", rather than a correction. The latter interpretation is the better one, though, and it is part of Justice Breyer's legacy that he understood that the First Amendment neither authorizes nor requires aggressive judicial revision of longstanding practices or the unyielding imposition and enforcement of an abstract public secularism.
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This isn’t legal analysis. It’s partisanship using fancy language. Justice Breyer is being accused of betraying the cause in much the way the Texas House of Representatives leadership was accused by Trump et al. when they impeached Ken Paxton, just in a more high-brow way. “Appeasement” here as an accusation is just a somewhat less emotional and more rational-sounding version of “treason.” Both imply a shameful collaboration with the enemy.
In both cases, partisan warfare is so deeply ingrained in the psyche that the idea that somebody might be motivated to do something that hurts the cause for reasons that aren’t essentially treasonous and reprehensible is simply inconceivable. The cause can do no wrong. Nothing supporting it can be bad. And nothing that goes against it can reflect any good.
This isn’t legal analysis.
To what is "this" referring?
For years the court was on an anti-religion jihad, at least in terms of any government involvement.
Now the court has swung to a more middle way that treats government interactions with religious organizations as being no different as government interactions with other private organizations like private schools or NGO’s, as long as the purpose is secular. And it acquiesced in Congress decision to rebuke the Supreme Court’s Smith decision and force the government to be more solicitous of private conscience.
I don’t see any of this as earth shattering, and it’s far more restrictive than either the plain text, or the original intent of the establishment clause would require, so a fair amount of retrenchment was needed to better align the court with the actual constitution, not what some would wish it were.
Mandatory tithing is unconstitutional, brief prayer in public schools probably not, but that’s not changing, and certainly private prayer in public schools is protected speech.
There's a vocal minority that wants to root religion, especially Christianity completely out of the public sphere, and are willing to engage in persecution to do so, like banning church gatherings during Covid when malls and supermarkets and casinos and restaurants were open. I'm glad the supreme court, after some dithering, shut that down at least.
It’s not that I want to root religion, especially Christianity, out of the public sphere. It’s that I don’t think religion is entitled to special rights or privileges not afforded to any other advocacy group. And in this context, religion is essentially just another advocacy group. So try treating it like any other advocacy group would be treated, and the answer to most of these issues become obvious.
We would not allow someone advocating for or against veganism to say a few words before the high school football game starts, or before a school assembly starts, or before a city council meeting starts. The idea that I should have my time taken up listening to a spiel for or against veganism as a condition of being allowed to transact official business would be laughed off the stage. So why is religion special?
And it's not even that I consider religion to be nonsense, although I candidly do. It's that religion has developed this massive sense of entitlement. As if, OF COURSE WE'RE ENTITLED TO SPECIAL RIGHTS. WE'RE RELIGION." That's probably 90% of the hostility that religion encounters.
Granting religion special rights and privileges is not what the Establishment Clause cases do. You may be thinking of the Free Exercise Clause cases.
For example, one of the cases discussed in the main post, Rosenberger, deals with whether a religious group may receive funding on the same terms as secular groups. Over a dissent that included Breyer, the Court ruled that it could. One cannot say this gives religious groups a special privilege. To apply your hypothetical, a vegan group would have been eligible for such funding without any question.
Likewise, in Van Orden v. Perry, also discussed above, the question was whether a Ten Commandments monument should have been permitted on state grounds alongside several other monuments. While it is indeed unlikely that Texas legislators would have erected a monument to veganism, that owes more to the lack of political support for such a monument than any favoritism of religion. Indeed, the religious monument was permitted in that case only because the Court found it was erected for a secular (historical) purpose rather than as a form of religious proselytizing.
One can quarrel with the results (contra Breyer, I think the case for an Establishment Clause violation was much stronger in Van Orden than Rosenberger) but it simply is not accurate to say these Establishment Clause cases involve preferential treatment of religion.
I don't recall mentioning the Establishment Clause. I was simply responding to Kazinski.
"To apply your hypothetical, a vegan group would have been eligible for such funding without any question."
That's because 1A says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion . . . ;" it doesn't say, ". . . make no law about veganism."
There are plenty of vegans who make a religion out of it.
Does Alabama Football count as a religion too?
We often see secular patriotic invocations before such meetings. And even if you want to set that aside as a special case, more and more on college campuses and in other very progressive milieus, we are starting to see "land acknowledgements" before such meetings.
And I don't approve of land acknowledgments either, and would happily shut them down if I could. The principle is the same: There's no reason why I should have to listen to someone else's opinion on a controversial subject as a condition of transacting official business. He's entitled to his opinion; he's not entitled to a captive audience for it.
Amen!
What you do/don’t approve of is irrelevant. The fact is that your premise…
So try treating it like any other advocacy group would be treated, and the answer to most of these issues become obvious.
We would not allow someone advocating for or against veganism to say a few words before the high school football game starts, or before a school assembly starts, or before a city council meeting starts.
…is demonstrably false. Many such things ARE allowed, so not allowing religious invocations, especially on constitutional grounds, is very much the opposite of treating religion just like the activities of any other advocacy group.
You have a point, although if you wear a hat it won't be as obvious. To the extent that such other things are done (and you've not named any), they shouldn't happen either, and two wrongs don't make a right. Nobody should have to listen to someone else's spiel as a condition of transacting official business.
I see you still haven’t done anything about that vacuum between your ears.
To the extent that such other things are done (and you’ve not named any)
So you responded to Nieporent’s post (which did name some) without bothering to read it?
And for the love of dog…for once in your miserable existence, try to focus. Your premise was:
“It’s that I don’t think religion is entitled to special rights or privileges not afforded to any other advocacy group.”
The things you're complaining about are NOT “special rights or privileges not afforded to any other advocacy group”.
And I see you still haven't done anything about your reading comprehension issues. I didn't say that *Nieporent* hadn't named any; I said *you" hadn't named any. You hadn't, and you still haven't, and I already responded to Nieporent.
So, who are these other non-religious advocacy groups that are asking to be given the floor before football games, school classes, and city council meetings? If you can come up with any, my response will be that they shouldn't be doing it either, and that they are wrongly being permitted to doesn't justify giving the same special privilege to religion or anyone else. And even if you can find some, my bet will be that for every advocacy group that gets a captive audience, there are a hundred that would like to have one but can't.
And I see you still haven’t done anything about your reading comprehension issues. I didn’t say that *Nieporent* hadn’t named any; I said *you” hadn’t named any. You hadn’t, and you still haven’t
I was assuming that you were at least intelligent enough to not need them repeated for you in someone else's post. A clear mistake on my part, and an assumption that was clearly not warranted by your comment history. So your argument isn't that you weren't provided with any such examples...it's just that they weren't repeated in my response? That they're not valid unless/until I copy-and-paste them into my own posts? Are you even capable of feeling embarrassment for an argument that stupid?
my response will be that they shouldn’t be doing it either, and that they are wrongly being permitted to doesn’t justify giving the same special privilege to religion or anyone else.
So those other groups are being afforded the "same" privilege that you're complaining is somehow "not afforded" to other groups?
Those other groups that you still haven't named, and as to whose existence I confess to being skeptical?
Here's the overarching issue: I routinely interact with about a dozen other commenters here, some of whom share my world view and some of whom don't. The only one to whom I routinely have to explain that no, that's not what I said, is you. Everyone else seems to understand me, whether they agree with me or not. So, if the only person who routinely misreads what I'm saying is you, maybe the stupidity isn't with me. Maybe you're just a halfwit suffering from a really bad case of Dunning Kruger.
Those other groups that you still haven’t named
Holy crap. Your mental development really did arrest sometime around the age of 10, didn't it?
I've wasted far more time on your childish bullshit than anyone ever should. My bad. No more.
I doubt it is 90 percent. Plenty of the distaste for religion, particularly among younger and educated Americans, derives from religion being associated mostly (and belligerently) with old-timey bigotry these days. The superstition aspect seems important, too, but it is the bigotry that is fueling America's substantial move away from religion.
Well, that and the hypocrisy. And the freeloading and demands for limitless special privilege. And the sexual abuse of children. And the additional abuse of victims. And . . .
There are plenty of strong reasons modern America is rejecting religion.
Well, there are two clauses in the First Amendment, the Bill of Rights, specifically and specially concerning religon. Special clauses, not general ones. The rights they speak of are in fact special rights, not general ones. It’s just the way it is. You may like it. You may not. But they’re there.
People should be entitled to believe as they wish. They should not get limitless special privilege based on superstition; the Constitution requires little to nothing in the realm of snowflakey privilege for religious claims. Society already bends over backward -- accrediting shitty and nonsense-based schools, letting churches freeload, etc. -- to accommodate the gullible consumers of organized religion. The recent expansion of privilege for superstition is destined to be reversed as our society becomes more and more reasonable, educated, and modern.
Competent adults neither advance nor accept supernatural arguments in reasoned debate among adults, especially with respect to public affairs.
Where does the First Amendment say "you are entitled to contract with the state to run a service on behalf of the state, but you won't have to obey the same policies and regulations that all other contractors doing the same job have to obey"?
I think I missed that part.
I actually don’t understand this argument. A great deal of what takes place in a legislature consists of spiels for and against veganism,and all kinds of other things. People say all kinds of things you don’t particularly want to hear. If there’s a filibuster going on, they might read from the Bible, but they might read from the phone book. They might give a spiel on anything at all, just to waste time.
There are certainly arguments against the Marsh v. Chambers legislative prayer decision. But “they don’t normally let people give spiels on things people don’t want to hear” doesn’t strike me as one of them. They do that all the time.
Well of the 118 Founders , I'd say at least 100 disagree with you.
Check the recent 3 volumes by Judge Mark T Boonstra.
Religion is special because it isn't making a spiel for veganism !!!
You are the typical positivist, reductionist, naturalism child. It isn't a symphony it's sounds, it isn't the Pieta , it's marble.
Does Tocqueville sound like he's talking about vegans :
religion “should be considered the first” of America’s “political institutions” and even that it is necessary for Americans to “maintain Christianity…at all cost.”
Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, trans. Harvey C. Mansfield and Delba Winthrop (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2002), pp. 279–280, 519
>Scholars and informed commentators know that the just-so story about the Supreme Court in which most cases are decided along ideological or partisan lines is misleading.
This is itself misleading. "Most politically significant cases" is not the same thing as "most cases".
Choose reason. Every time.
Choose reason. Every time. Especially over sacred ignorance and dogmatic intolerance. Most especially if you are older than 12 or so. By then, childhood indoctrination fades as an excuse for gullibility, superstition, ignorance, backwardness, and bigotry. By adulthood -- this includes ostensible adulthood -- it is no excuse, not even at a backwater religious school.
Choose reason. Every time. And science, modernity, inclusiveness, freedom, education, and progress. Avoid dogma, superstition, ignorance, bigotry, authoritarianism, insularity, backwardness, and pining for "good old days" that never existed. Not 75 years ago. Not 175 years ago. Not 2,000 years ago, except in fairy tales suitable solely for young children and especially gullible adolescents (of all ages).
Choose reason. Every time. Be an adult.
Or, at least, please try.
Thank you.
You are a stupid man, for sure.
You are the child , not educated , not logical
religion “should be considered the first” of America’s “political institutions” and even that it is necessary for Americans to “maintain Christianity…at all cost.”
Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, trans. Harvey C. Mansfield and Delba Winthrop (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2002), pp. 279–280, 519
Plus you are stupid to say no one ever arrived at God solely by reason, PURE STUPID
Cicero says that almost no philosophers in history before him held atheism or agnosticism.
So misleading, that SCOTUS predictors that look at partisan and ideology issues are more accurate then SCTOUS predictors that do legal analysis.
In the last few years, Clarence Thomas has been very vocal about needed "corrections". This includes some rather alarming recent cases, such as Lawrence v. Texas (2003) and Obergefel v. Hodges (2015). And very recently, he also voiced his support for making Hammer v. Dagenhart (1918) good law again (it was later overruled in the 40s).
You know, the one that said the government can't prohibit the sale of goods made with child labor.
Do you agree with Thomas regarding these other decisions that need to be "corrected"?
To be fair, Thomas did not say that government could not prohibit child labor. He merely said that child labor is not interstate commerce, and hence the power to regulate it is one the Framers assigned to tbe states and not the federal government.
When the California Supreme Court, not known as an ultra-conservative institution, struck down a San Francisco ordinance restricting circumcision on grounds that under the state constitution power to regulate licensed professions lies solely with the state legislature and not city and county governments, nobody got especially worked up about how the opinion was preventing “government” from getting anything done.
... okay, let me clarify, since you failed to understand from context.
Spin it any way you want, Thomas is against the laws that prohibited child labor in this country.
Actually you make a farce of your own statement by implying that legislation against child labor should originate with the judiciary . Typical of you.
This is a little light on what they believe Justice Breyer's jurisprudential philosophy on this issue is. The argument just seems to be that he has one and that they agree with it. It feels like that should have been essential information to discuss.
Superstitious, right-wing law professor, posting at a white, male, movement conservative blog, agrees with Republican Supreme Court justices tilting the playing field toward special privilege for religion (and related bigotry).
This professor seems destined to be unhappy, and to be opining in an entirely different key, after Court enlargement makes the Court more hospitable to reason, science, modernity, inclusiveness, and progress.
“Like Aristotle, conservatives generally accept the world as it is; they distrust the politics of abstract reason – that is, reason divorced from experience.”
― Benjamin Wiker
So dumb REv uses 5 yes 5 5 5 abstracts in a row.
What is progress, why it's agreeing with the rev.