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Second Amendment Roundup: Should the Fifth Circuit Reconsider Rahimi En Banc?
The Fifth Circuit's decision in United States v. Rahimi, which held that the federal statute prohibiting possession of a firearm by a person subject to a domestic violence restraining order violates the Second Amendment, has managed to stay in the news for longer than most circuit court decisions. On March 2, a month after it initially released its decision, the Fifth Circuit panel withdraw its original opinion and substituted a revised version.
The end result is the same, and the updates to the controlling opinion appear to be modest, but Judge Ho significantly expanded his concurring opinion, in which he sets out to "explain how respect for the Second Amendment is entirely compatible with respect for our profound societal interest in protecting citizens from violent criminals." Judge Ho emphasizes that "[t]hose who commit violence, including domestic violence, shouldn't just be disarmed—they should be detained, prosecuted, convicted, and incarcerated." But because the law at issue in Rahimi "disarms individuals based on civil protective orders—not criminal proceedings," the panel found no "analogous historical tradition sufficient to support" it. That was especially true, given the way that civil protective orders are used (and abused) in our system, including by a common practice of issuing "mutual restraining orders" in domestic violence cases, a practice that results in the federal prohibition actually disarming domestic violence victims.
Judge Ho's concurrence also highlights the importance of the Fifth Circuit getting this case right. He notes that before Bruen, circuit courts routinely misapplied Heller despite frequent criticism from the members of the Supreme Court that they were "disfavoring the Second Amendment." And he correctly recognizes that Bruen was a response to the lower courts' intransigence: "The Supreme Court has now responded by setting forth a new legal framework in Bruen. It is incumbent on lower courts to implement Bruen in good faith and to the best of our ability."
Of course, the issue is fraught, so Rahimi has received a lot of attention. Given that it invalidated a federal statute, it seems like a likely candidate for catching the Supreme Court's attention too. In fact, it appears that the Justice Department views this as a particularly good vehicle to ask the Supreme Court immediately to consider (or reconsider) some of the effects of its decision in Bruen. Attorney General Merrick Garland made a statement over a month ago, vowing to "seek further review of the Fifth Circuit's … decision," but there is no indication he intends to seek that review from the Fifth Circuit.
For those of us who believe Bruen got it exactly right, Rahimi may be a bad vehicle for the Supreme Court to flesh out its decision in Bruen. As much as the Justices may try to focus on the bigger-picture legal issues, bad facts make bad law, and Rahimi is full of bad facts. Even if the law that kept him from possessing firearms in this case is unconstitutional—and the panel opinion makes a compelling case that the law lacked support from the founding era—it seems clear that Mr. Rahimi is exactly the sort of person who should be able to be disarmed consistent with the Second Amendment. He was involved in five shootings in two months, including one instance when he "fired multiple shots in the air after his friend's credit card was declined at a Whataburger restaurant."
The Fifth Circuit should consider rehearing the case en banc. This would have the advantage of setting the clearest possible precedent to govern future Second Amendment challenges under Bruen and, perhaps just as importantly, permitting other Second Amendment challenges to get to the Supreme Court first. The federal rules of appellate procedure say a case is a good candidate for reconsideration if it "involves a question of exceptional importance." The issue in Rahimi meets that standard several in different ways.
The Third Circuit recently heard en banc argument in United States v. Range, a case raising the constitutionality of the federal law against felon possession of a firearm—a separate subsection of the same law at issue in Rahimi—and it decided the issue was worth en banc treatment just three days after receiving the petition for rehearing was filed. More recently, the Eleventh Circuit issued a decision in National Rifle Association v. Bondi, holding that a Florida law restricting the Second Amendment rights of 18-to-20-year-olds to purchase a firearm was constitutional under Bruen. That same day, before any petition for rehearing could be filed, a judge of that court apparently called for an en banc poll, because the court entered an order withholding issuance of the mandate.
Under Fifth Circuit Internal Operating Procedures, any judge may initiate a vote to take a case en banc, even without a petition. And since it appears no petition for rehearing is forthcoming from the Justice Department, the judges of the Fifth Circuit should exercise that prerogative here. Rahimi may well wind up at the Supreme Court anyway, but given the importance of the issues, and Judge Ho's (correct) assessment that Bruen has tasked the courts of appeals with fleshing out its method first, the Fifth Circuit may do well to consider Rahimi as a whole court first.
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These days many divorce lawyers tell their female clients to claim "domestic violence" and get a restraining order to strengthen their bargaining position. When I was in college one of my classmates was a former police officer who was training for a new profession, because his ex-wife obtained a restraining order on the advice of her attorney. That cost him his job because he couldn't carry a weapon. His Union wanted no part of trying to fight for him because they didn't want to be seen as "promoting" domestic violence.
There's the misconception that only women can be the victim of "domestic violence". In the early 90's I worked as an armed guard at a facility that hid battered spouses and their children that had a verifiable threat against them from their ex. Many times it was a man and his children. On that job, I had to pull a weapon twice. Both times it was on a woman.
"Both times it was on a woman."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the most dangerous situation for peace officers remains a DV call.
And if I'm reading it right, just as many men are battered by women as women battered by men. Men underreport DV.
In 1993 Saturday Night Live had a skit "Real Stories of the Arkansas Highway Patrol." One segment was a response to a domestic violence call where Bill Clinton denied being beat up by a drunken Hillary. https://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93spatrol.phtml
I wouldn't know about a DV call being the most violent call. As I said I was just a guard. I've heard that, but, have no proof one way or another.
But it's legally irrelevant if Rahimi is an awful or dangerous person. You can't rule "people subject to restraining orders are disqualified only if they are suspected of other misbehavior." The person is or is not subject to a qualifying order, and the law does not look any further.
A decade or so ago a man in Massachusetts shot an intruder who turned out to be a cop quietly investigating a reported burglary. There was a miscommunication. The homeowner didn't know he had been reported as a burglar in his own house, and the police officer had been told the owner was out of town. The shooter faced no criminal charges. The police chief took away his gun permit anyway. That decision was subject to review in state court where it was upheld. If Texas wants to take guns away from people who abuse them without being charged, Texas needs to adopt a procedure to do so.
" You can’t rule `people subject to restraining orders are disqualified only if they are suspected of other misbehavior.'”
That wasn't the ruling. I think this ruling was a slap at jurisdictions that fail to prosecute and convict repeat offenders. If Rahimi is such a Corn Pop that he shouldn't be armed, put him away for those offenses, and the disarmament is a mere side benefit, not the main---or sole---punishment.
Akin to ERPOs: if the subject of the ERPO is a danger to self or others, prove it in court and commit him so he can't hurt anyone with anything, don't just disarm him and leave him free to pursue harm by other means.
Stephen Halbrook's post described this as a case with bad facts. But the facts aren't relevant to the legal question.
But that's why bad facts lead to bad decisions: Because the worse the facts are, the greater the temptation to rule on the facts, not the legal question.
The 5th Circuit’s opinion is debatable, but there’s more of a point to it than that. The basic point is that if you want to strip people of constitutional rights, you need a stronger burden of proof than just preponderance of the evidence, and you need a hearing, not an ex parte proceeding.
You don’t necessarily need beyond a reasonable doubt; the standard for taking away parental rights is clear and convincing evidence. But the standard is higher than what’s currently needed to get a restraining order.
A potential issue with a purely historical analysis is that what we today call “domestic violence” was legal in the 19th century so long as it didn’t result in serious injury. Under common law, husbands had a legally protected right to use force to discipline and control their wives. By the late 19th century courts were backing away from saying the law blessed and protected sucj activities, and instead said it was a matter of family privacy. This was the term the Griswold court adapted to and which remained in use to describe things like contraception and abortion (which they said the Constitution blesses and protects) at least until Casey. Under a historical approach, government should not intrude on private family matters to take away people’s guns.
"You don’t necessarily need beyond a reasonable doubt; the standard for taking away parental rights is clear and convincing evidence."
Not a good analogy here.
Look, first, parental rights implicate the rights of the children. They're limited rights in regards to somebody else, but a gun is just an inanimate object.
Second, while taking parental rights away acts in regards to that particular child, it doesn't implicate your right to any future child: You could go out and get pregnant, and the court order would have nothing to do with your relations with THAT child, they'd have to do it all over again to take the next kid away. A court order of that sort can't prohibit you from having future children!
Similarly, a civil action can deprive you for cause of any particular bit of tangible property, and a gun is no different in that regard. But, while a court order could demand that a book, (To use another item that implicates an explicit constitutional right.) you own be turned over to somebody else, it can't demand that you refrain from owning books.
So we're actually talking about an action that's radically different from the civil actions you might analogize it to: It doesn't deprive you of a particular exercise of a civil liberty, it deprives you of the civil liberty itself.
I think the only due process sufficient for that is a criminal conviction. And not a misdemeanor, either.
So if the state takes away all your children, no worries, each is a mere isolated instance of your right to have children, not the right itself, you could always have some more.
I don’t think most people would see things that way.
And I think advocates of gun rights miht be wise to accept an analogy to having ones children taken away and not try to claim that they think their children mean less to them compared to their guns. That type of argument might actually persuade some people the opposite way. If you value children, then these gun nuts who don’t value them are going to have to yield.
I don't see things that way, either.
My point was that parental rights are very unlike 2nd amendment rights, in that they're rights over and with respect to another human being, and are subject to being taken away on a showing that you're somehow not treating that human being properly. The 'thing' over which the right is exercised has countervailing rights!
But a court finding that you're abusing your son Bob doesn't deprive you of the right to reproduce, it only takes Bob away from you for Bob's sake. It's a limited deprivation, even if it isn't a minor one. You'd never get away with depriving somebody of the right to reproduce in a civil hearing. That's Buck v Bell, and while it hasn't been formally overturned, it's still a dead letter.
By contrast, my guns have no countervailing interests to protect.
So parental rights are just not enough like 2nd amendment rights to analogize between them. THAT is my point.
To me, the closest analogy is civil commitment. If a person is so mentally impaired he can't take care of himself, the state can commit him to a mental institution. But that requires a full blown evidentiary hearing, and proof by clear and convincing evidence. Addington v. Texas, 441 U.S. 418 (1979) is the leading case.
The end result of such a hearing is complete loss of liberty. To my mind, depriving someone of his 2d Amendment rights is less of a loss of liberty, so I don't see why that standard should not suffice.
But that is much more rigorous than what is generally applied in restraining order cases, so I think this decision is right in its result, although not all of its reasoning.
Texas does have a procedure to take guns away from people who abuse others without charging the gun-owners with a crime. The civil DV order against Rahimi did just that, and he consented to it.
You know what's also due for reconsideration after Bruen? United States vs Hayes. At the time it was decided, the Court was still treating the 2nd amendment as a second class right subject to lesser scrutiny. And the retroactive application really stinks to high heaven.
People who commit domestic violence should also be:
- prohibited from practicing law or medicine
- prohibited from any form of intimate contact or relationship
- required to wear a distinctive badge when out in public.
Two words: due process.
Legislate punishments for such offenses not on the basis of orders, but convictions.
"Intimate" and "domestic" imply that there will be uncooperative witnesses, if any.
I share your condemnation of men who batter women. But I will not cut down every tree that the Devil would hide behind.
You "share [his] condemnation" while in the same breath buying into the trope that only men batter women. The statistics say otherwise.
According to multiple studies (going back to the 1970s and independently replicated many times since), roughly half of all instances of domestic violence are bi-directional. Of the other half that are perpetrated by only one of the partners, the split is approximately equal between men and women being the abusers.
"while in the same breath buying into the trope"
As I sipped coffee after posting that, I knew I would need to come back to see this, and stand corrected.
I don't buy into that trope. So allow me to recast. I share the commenter's condemnation of people battering intimate partners. See my other comments above.
My apologies then if I overreacted. I have seen far too many people who deny the very existence of 'battered husbands' - including a truly distressing number of family court judges.
I can understand the overreaction, no apology necessary.
I've known a few such battered men, and women who admit that men can be battered.
Those same studies reveal some harrowing findings about intimate partner violence between same-sex partners too.
Just look at Paul Pelosi.
These are the fans you have cultivated, Prof. Volokh, and the reason you'll never shake the questions about bigotry.
(Strike the "never." I suppose those questions don't follow you into Federalist Society meetings.)
Preserve 2A rights but use possession of a gun as an enhancer to charges and sentences following any subsequent criminal or at any rate unlawful activity.
A man has a TRO against him and he turns up at his wife's home with a gun? Felony trespass, minimum X years, even if he doesn't unholster it.
"Possession of a deadly weapon in furtherance of . . "
No problem. In most jurisdictions, that offense is already low-hanging fruit for prosecutors.
For already violent crimes, I think. But here we're talking about currently non-violent crimes or, in the case of TROs, criminal contempt - which may rise to the level of a felony, but under my proposal would definitely be a felony with an enhanced sentence.
A man who has a TRO against him and turns up at his wife's home with or without a gun is in contempt of court. Problem is that judges don't have the spine to come down hard on it (and perhaps jurisdictions lack the resources to deal with it.)
Yup. My point is that if the man has a gun on him when violating the TRO the punishment should be graver and perhaps it should be a separate criminal offence, not merely criminal contempt.
"A man has a TRO against him and he turns up at his wife’s home with a gun?"
Of course the wife will be dead in a few minutes, but that's just collateral damage.
Got to keep the 2A nuts happy!
We love in an imperfect world which means an innocent will die somewhere because of some non-illegal or even fully justified action.
But we gotta keep the human rights nuts happy!
Rights exist even when you account for the fact that not everyone refrains from violating them. Otherwise we have no rights and no need for rights. I suppose we can just let Der Führer tell us how to act and we can just make anyone who steps out of line disappear. Because who needs rights?
NOOBIE QUESTION ALERT
It is not clear to me how to differentiate between domestic violence and plain old regular violence and I am too lazy to research it. To wit:
Rahimi was not married to the first or second female but was living with them (at least off and on and there is a strong implication sex was involved at some time) so I will buy into domestic violence in this case.
But what happens if Rahimi had gone to a juke joint, picked up a floozie, had sex in a car, and engaged in the same act as with the two females mentioned before. Not to mention Bill Clintons famous 'I did not have sex with that woman'; she just sucked my dick and then I shoved a cigar in her cunt. What counts as sex.
A restraining order is disqualifying under federal law if it protects an "intimate partner", defined as "the spouse of the person, a former spouse of the person, an individual who is a parent of a child of the person, and an individual who cohabitates or has cohabited with the person."
A misdemeanor domestic violence conviction has a broader definition of who the special victims are. The law also disqualifies a person if the victim "has a current or recent former dating relationship with the victim". Under current precedent the defendant's knowledge must be proved, and a jury ought to vote not guilty if the situation is ambiguous.
Why is this different than folks who are placed in pre-trial confinement?
The govt is taking away their rights without a criminal conviction?
For one thing, that is temporary. You have the right to a speedy trial.
For another thing, bail is usually granted, so it is even more temporary.
So "if you haven't beaten up your wife in 6 months, you can get your guns back"?
Under my state's law a restraining order normally lasts a year. If no charges are filed or you are acquitted you have to stop beating your wife for a year to get your guns back.
Well, my personal opinion is that, if the government puts you in pre-trial confinement, and no conviction follows, they should cut you a nice check as they let you go. You know, to make you whole? But I'm been told that's a crazy idea.
That's not a crazy idea at all.
You didn't answer my question but I do agree with your idea.
HANG ON A SEC....
"(Rahimi) also admitted that he was subject to an agreed
civil protective order entered February 5, 2020, by a Tarrant County state district court after Rahimi’s alleged assault of his ex-girlfriend. . . . The order also expressly prohibited Rahimi from possessing a firearm."
He AGREED with the restraining order - INCLUDING NOT POSSESSING A FIREARM.
He could have fought it then but didn't.
He should lose just on that part alone.
That makes the facts look better for those who are afraid of letting a bad person get away with something. If he has a gun he has to be charged under state law and not under federal law.
Mr. Halbrook, aren't you implicitly conceding that the Fifth Circuit panel botched the Rahimi decision badly enough that even if the U.S. wants to go straight up to the Supreme Court, a pro-gun-rights judge on the Fifth Circuit should request rehearing en banc so that the Rahimi decision can be cleaned up?
I would hope that all of those judges are "pro-rights" for every one of the rights in the Constitution.
No, he is not implying that the 5th "botched" the Rahimi decision badly, or to any other degree.
“How Appealing” has posted a copy of the U.S.’s cert petition in this case, “US asks Supreme Court to uphold domestic violence gun law”: Gram Slattery and Nate Raymond of Reuters have a report that begins, “The U.S. Justice Department has asked the Supreme Court to allow a federal law stand that makes it a crime for people under domestic violence restraining orders to own firearms.”
Sorry not to be able to get the links to work. Maybe
https://affordablecareactlitigation.files.wordpress.com/2023/03/rahimi-pet-final.pdf
Bruen is wrong, and Rahimi is wronger. According to Bruen, as interpreted by the Fifth Circuit, the fact that Congress did not pass a law taking guns from wife-beaters before 1996 is proof that such a law would be unconstitutional. Rahimi, quoting Bruen, says:
"When the challenged regulation addresses a "general societal problem that has persisted since the 18th century, the lack of a distinctly similar historical regulation addressing that problem is relevant evidence that the challenged regulation is inconsistent with the Second Amendment."
But wife-beating was not a general societal problem since the 18th century. On the contrary, it was an accepted practice then. It BECAME a general societal problem when society came to see it as such. So any argument based on the absence of prior legislation is nonsense.
More generally, mores change, and the public perception of what sort of person is dangerous enough to disarm, and who should be protected from such a person, changes over time. Judges have been interpreting things like "clear and present danger" for a long time. Surely, they can craft a similar test for disarming dangerous people. They just don't want to, and that's both wrong and shameful.
The law here is narrowly tailored and applies only while a restraining order is in place. It is very clearly constitutional facially and as applied to this particular piece of sludge. The court should rehear it, but only if the other judges are better than the morons who created this abomination.
The FBI didn’t finish over 1 million gun background checks in time to stop a sale in 2020 and 2021
As gun sales soared over the past two years, more background checks slipped through holes in the system.
So -- sleight of hand-- let's switch our incompetence over to family courts and pretend we did something.