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No First Amendment Problem with Searching Records of E-Mail Account "PedoZack82@gmail.com,"
when the user had also posted a Match.com entry saying "MAP 4-10," and there was police testimony that "MAP" means "minor attracted person" and "4-10" was the age of the children in whom he was interested.
From Christensen v. Commonwealth, decided Thursday by the Kentucky Supreme Court:
After the Kenton Circuit Court denied his motion to suppress, Keram Christensen entered a conditional guilty plea to 313 counts of possessing matter portraying a sexual performance by a minor, eight counts of distributing matter portraying a sexual performance by a minor, one count of promoting a sexual performance by a minor (victim under 18), one count of promoting a sexual performance by a minor (victim under 16), and one count of using an electronic communications system to induce or procure a minor to commit a sexual offense. He was sentenced to seventy years' imprisonment ….
On August 20, 2019, Detective Austin Ross of the Covington Police Department received a Cyber Tipline Report from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) that a user of the online dating website Match.com had recently posted information potentially expressing a sexual interest in children. In particular, the user's biography described himself as:
Quirky Bisexual Nudist. [MAP 4-10]. Seeking friends and dates, spend the evening together. I like baseball, hockey, NASCAR, basketball. Also like travel and the performing arts, or just staying in and cuddling to a good show. When I say I want kids, I mean it.
The user was identified as "Zack" from Covington, Kentucky, and the email address associated with the account was "pedozack82@gmail.com." Detective Ross was able to obtain the subscriber information associated with the email address and traced it to a physical address in Covington which was Christensen's residence.
The following day, Detective Ross applied for and was granted a warrant authorizing a search of Christensen's house…. The affidavit sought permission to search the residence for multiple items, including electronic devices, but did not seek authority to search the devices themselves. {Additional search warrants were subsequently issued authorizing the search of Christensen's computer and other electronic devices. No challenge has been raised relative to those warrants.}
The search came up with lots of stuff, which led to the prosecution; and the court rejected the argument that the search violated the First or Fourth Amendments. It concluded that the search was backed by probable cause:
Probable cause does not … require certainty of an actual crime being committed or that evidence of criminal acts or contraband will be located during a search pursuant to an issued warrant. Rather, so long as the totality of the circumstances present a fair probability such evidence will be uncovered based on the information provided in the supporting affidavit, the warrant-issuing judge's determination of probable cause will not be disturbed. Such circumstances are present here.
Christensen made an online post indicating his interest and desire to obtain a child with whom he could perform sexually explicit and illegal conduct which resulted in the issuance of the NCMEC Cyber Tipline report received by Detective Ross. In his affidavit seeking the search warrant, Detective Ross indicated that through his training and experience the term "MAP 4-10" was indicative of a person identifying themselves as a pedophile attracted to children between 4 and 10 years of age. He further indicated evidence was likely to be uncovered regarding multiple victims as offenders targeting minors routinely use a variety of digital platforms to attempt to lure their prey.
Taking a commonsense view of the totality of the circumstances viewed through the lens of common sense, while also affording the great deference due to the fact-finding judge, we hold the warrant-issuing judge had a sufficient basis to determine a fair probability existed that contraband or evidence of a crime would be located at Christensen's home. The facts presented would convince a reasonably prudent person to think that a search would reveal contraband or evidence of a crime. For these reasons, we cannot say the finding of probable cause was arbitrary and will thus not disturb that determination.
And the court rejected the First Amendment argument:
Christensen further goes to great lengths in an attempt to cast his online postings and email address as nothing more than pure speech, protected by the First Amendment …. Christensen fails to recognize that speech attempting to arrange sexual abuse of a child is not constitutionally protected. His First Amendment challenge requires little discussion as it is patently without merit.
The Commonwealth clearly has a compelling interest in protecting minors from being lured to engage in sexual acts or to be sexually abused and speech intended to further such objectives certainly does not enjoy constitutional protection. To argue otherwise ignores the rule that "[o]ffers to engage in illegal transactions are categorically excluded from First Amendment protection." "Speech attempting to arrange the sexual abuse of children is no more constitutionally protected than speech attempting to arrange any other type of crime." "Put another way, the defendant simply does not have a First Amendment right to attempt to persuade minors to engage in illegal sex acts." "Speech intended deliberately to encourage minors' participation in criminal sexual conduct has no redeeming social value and surely can be outlawed. … And where … speech is the instrumentality of the crime itself, the First Amendment provides no shelter from the government's exercise of its otherwise valid police powers."
I think the result is right, but for a different reason: Speech can be used as evidence, whether of guilt or of probable cause, even if it's fully constitutionally protected. Saying "I hate Joe Schmoe" is fully constitutionally protected, but if the police are looking for Joe Schmoe's killer, that statement could be one of the items of evidence on which they rely in getting a warrant (or in proving motive at trial). And where there is enough speech to rise to the level of probable cause, a warrant is authorized whether or not the speech is itself constitutionally unprotected.
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I think your reasoning is better than the court’s, but I don’t see how it constitutes probable cause either way. Is a person’s having written, “I am sexually attracted to children” sufficient probable cause to believe that there’s evidence of a crime (either child pr0n or child molesting) in that person’s home?
(Or does this just fall under "If you're that stupid so as to call yourself 'pedozack,' you deserve what you get"?)
They're proud of themselves now, they take a whole month to celebrate and have parades. Embassies and Big Businesses wave their flags in support. Why wouldn't he show off his lifestyle choices?
I read the quoted match.com profile as saying more than just “I am sexually attracted to children”
From the match.com profile: "When I say I want kids, I mean it."
On top of him describing himself as a MAP, to me, this says: "I am sexually attracted to children and I am actively seeking a child to have sex with".
That's how I read it too. He wasn't just making a distasteful but legal declaration, but was stating, or strongly hinting, at illegal activity planning.
Then again, courts have seen as protected pretty outrageous and murderous statements in tweets and lyrics. But are they sufficient for investigation or warrants, as opposed to prosecution?
I considered that, but on Match.com? Who on earth could think that would make sense? (I mean, besides someone who's dumb enough to identify himself as PedoZack, I guess.)
"I considered that, but on Match.com? Who on earth could think that would make sense?"
Someone saw it and considered that meaning enough to contact the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children who reported it to the police.
But how does it say “there’s a good chance evidence of a crime will be found in my gmail account”?
Misread the facts, but a search of the house seems like even more of a reach.
If someone makes that kind of post to a dating site and has "pedo" in their email address, that seems like good reason to believe they have taken profile far enough to at least have kiddie porn (excuse me, "child sexual abuse material") at their house.
The FBI has used much less evidence to go after a lot of conservatives.
David, I agree with you on both points and will throw in a third -- just because they found the evidence doesn't mean this was probable cause for the search.
Substitute "money" or "gold" for "children" and see where you end up. "I love money" doesn't mean that I am the person who robbed the local bank, nor is it probable cause to suspect that I did.
But there is another possibility here -- someone so stupid to identify himself as pedozach was suspected to be a pervert and some third party posted this so as to bring him to the attention of law enforcement. Or the police themselves, suspecting his guilt, did it themselves.
Thus concludes another episode of “Dr. Ed finds the stupidest possible take”.
The last one hadn't even ended yet!
Heh.
Reason ate my comment making a similar observation.
A better analogy would be someone posting “Drugs 4 Sale” on craigslist, with the username DrgDlr69.
69? Not 420?
Prior to Lawrence, there were a series of cases holding that mere propensity to same-sex attraction didn’t imply an intent to engage in illegal same-sex sex acts.
Why should pedophila be treated any differently?
But here there is more than "mere propensity" to sexual attraction to minors.
There is also a statement implying that he was actively seeking minors.
So an analogy of this case to pre-Lawrence law would be a statement of "I'm gay and I'm actively looking for men to have sex with."
Somewhat off topic, but is there a compelling reason why pederasts are not subject to capital punishment? This seems like it would be free money as far as policy proposals go.
Compelling? Not really.
The reason is quite simple; it offended a majority of the Supreme Court, so the Supreme Court pretended that it’s prohibited by the Eighth Amendment.
The Supreme Court says capital punishment can only be used with great difficulty in a small subset of murder cases. Some states kept capital punishment for rape or statutory rape on the books into this century. Such laws are unenforceable.
Why provide the time, protections and resources necessary for a capital conviction when prison justice will get you to the same place faster, cheaper and with some degree of deniability.
Same reason rape doesn't get capital punishment. If you're gonna be executed anyway, well, dead women tell no tales.
" If you’re gonna be executed anyway, well, dead women tell no tales."
Rapists were executed for centuries without this happening.
Murder takes a level depravity beyond most other crimes.
Why do you think it didn't happen? I would agree that murder was not inevitable after a rape.
Most rapists were not executed during most of history. Most rapists weren't punished at all.
Of the subset of rapists who were subject to capital punishment (such as for raping a woman of higher class than you), yes those women were frequently raped and murdered. Contrary to your claim, murder takes no greater depravity than many other crimes - I'd even go so far as to say considerably less than many other crimes.
A few states retained such laws (making e.g. rape of a child a capital crime) into the 21st century, but the Supreme Court struck them down in 2008 in a case called Kennedy v. Louisiana.
I don't see a First Amendment problem. I do think the application for a search warrant is quite weak.
Match.com has filters to prevent people from saying naughty things in profiles. You'd think they would know to block "MAP" or "MAP" followed by a number.
The LGBTQP crowd is so f'n gross.
You realize adding the P to that is an effort by the right wing to poison the well against the whole LGBT movement, right?
You realize that’s his purpose too, yes? That and loudly failing to convince people he’s totally not gay?
"poison the well"
The T already did that.
More Republican politicians and Christian pastors have been found guilty of child abuse and child pornography than there are trans people in the US.
And because it bears repeating: “More Republican politicians and Christian pastors have been found guilty of child abuse and child pornography than there are trans people in the US.”
and Ted Kennedy left more young women to asphyxiate (NOT drowned, there's a difference) than everyone who's ever served in the Senate, House, Surpreme Court, POTUS or VPOTUS, unless there's someone I forgot about,
Frank
Can someone please let poor Frank know that Ted Kennedy has been dead for 10 years, Chappaquiddick happened 50 years ago, and maybe he could try to find something that's not ancient history to talk about.
Oh? That sounds interesting.
Can you please provide me with where you get your numbers for Republican politicians and Christian pastors found guilty of child sexual abuse and creation/possession of child pornography? Also, where are you getting your numbers for trans people in the US?
It sounds like you might have found an interesting data source, and I'd like to see what else might be in there.
I know you must be very busy, Otis, but you could please share your data for your assertions in this post?
Where are you finding the data on the number of Republican politicians and Christian pastors convicted of child sexual abuse or creation/possession of child pornagraphy?
Where are you getting your data on the number of 'trans people' in the US?
I'd really like to see this data, as it sounds very detailed and interesting. I'm sure you can produce it easily, since you can quote such detailed 'facts' from it.
No, the pro MAP rhetoric and the insanity of not being able to define a woman do that.
An old piece of minor satire of mine:
Paul Ryan today reaffirmed his support for child pornography after a 19-year-old man was convicted of 17 counts of child abuse. "The time is not ripe to have a discussion on this - more data is needed. But we have a constitutional right to publish and read child pornography and I continue to favor the preservation of citizens' rights. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families."
Wayne LaPierre, of the National Reading Association, said that a free press and free speech are important for keeping this country free, and it is not up to the government to tell its citizens what they can write about, and what they are permitted to read. He also indicated that his thoughts and prayers were with the victims.
A more direct statement came from Ted Cruz - "what part of "shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press" do you liberals and mainstream media not understand?"
Many groups have called for limitations on the publication of child pornography, but pro-pornography advocacy groups have been far more successful in preserving the right to "speak and publish", with donations to Congress exceeding $10 million. The National Reading Association itself paid over $20 million to help elect Donald Trump, seeing him as far more supportive of child pornography than his opponent.
Comedy is hard. Best not to attempt it.
Many a truth is spoken in jest.
Well, you seem to have little difficulty in playing a clown, so how hard can it be?
"how hard can it be?"
Beyond your ability at least.
No, no, no. That's much too feeble a comeback. You could have gone for, "I just imagine myself to be a liberal, so no thought required. Like your satire". For example.
Yes, that would have been about as lame and unfunny as your original bit.
More feebling
“Many groups have called for limitations on the publication of child pornography”
This is going to be misunderstood, but I think it needs to be said.
In the Early 20th Century, China had a serious Opium problem and there are historical reasons for that. When the Communists assumed power, they eliminated it by killing all the users. Instead of going after the growers and distributors and dealers, they simply eliminated the users. (Does Opium even grow in China?)
That is the approach we are taking towards the sexual abuse of minors — instead of addressing the source (the production) and the distribution, we are are attempting to address all of this via (essentially) killing the customers. And we don’t take this approach with illegal drugs — if we did, it would have worked as well as it did for the CCP.
The rationale is that by addressing demand, we are reducing the number of children who actually will be harmed in the production of this product — which is asinine. If anything, reducing the demand will reduce the profit which will only lead to MORE children harmed as production is increased to maintain revenue.
I'll go further -- what Constitutional right does NAMBLA -- the National Man/Boy Love Association -- have to exist?
Once one accepts the legitimacy of violating the First Amendment rights of adults so as to protect children, once one criminalizes the mere possession of images on the rationale that it will protect unknown children in the future, then why not take the next logical step and criminalize NAMBLA?
Conversely, there is the argument of the stem cell researchers -- all of the abortions that created those stem cell lines have already happened and hence using them won't cause future abortions. Doesn't the same argument apply here?
Freeeom of speech must be fought for on distasteful grounds, before it encroaches on something more important.
Again, the benefit of the First Amendment isn't that there's high value in every last popcorn husk coughed out of the mouth of a 400 lb. guy with a farmer's tan.
It's in denying nascent tyrant kings the driver in their golf bag of Tyrant Toys.
That is the approach we are taking towards the sexual abuse of minors — instead of addressing the source (the production) and the distribution, we are are attempting to address all of this via (essentially) killing the customers.
Do you really think that people who produce and distribute child pornography don’t get prosecuted, and don’t face more severe punishments than people who simply possess it? (Note that this guy was in the latter category.)
That's not satire, it's slander.
Slander?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XscaGDxuQqE
Maybe you just sit out all discussions of slander and libel, mm’kay?
I'm not sure what he thought he was going to accomplish, I can't imagine there are many 4-10 year olds on Match.com and I'm sure they have an 18+ policy for users. Also doesn't seem the best place to go if you want to procure a minor.
At first blush it strikes me as a prank, he had the goods but the warrant justification still seems very weak.
I’m not sure what he thought he was going to accomplish, I can’t imagine there are many 4-10 year olds on Match.com
He was looking for women who had such kids and would go along with it.
Like I said, Match.com (a very mainstream and above-board website) doesn’t seem like the place those women would go.
It strikes me like walking into a CVS and asking the pharmacist if he knows where you can find some meth.
I wouldn't think there would be that many mothers of 4-10 year olds interested in sending their children off to a pedophile. In fact, I'll bet there are so few of them that if you're talking to one on the internet, chances are great it's really a police sting. Which makes me wonder about the intelligence of the guys I keep seeing on the news who were caught up in police stings. How do they not know that they're being set up?
I guess he was hoping 99.99% of people would see it as a prank, and the 1 person that didn't would give him what he wants. But yeah, especially on Match you're just going to find a cop.
If 99.99% of people would see it as a prank, how does that constitute probable cause?
"Your honor, while almost any reasonable person would consider it a prank, I instead believe it to be evidence of a crime...."
Probably 99.99% of people who say "there's a bomb on this plane" are joking, even though almost no one else finds that particular joke amusing, but because of the stakes involved it's going to be taken very seriously.
There is a difference between saying "there is a bomb on this plane" and "I like bombs."
OK, next time you go through airport security, tell the nice TSA agent that you like bombs and let us know how it goes.
Yes, but to put it in the frame of the Match.com profile in this case, it wouldn't just be "I like bombs", it would be "I like bombs and I'm looking for a bomb to take on a plane".
"I like bombs," said by @mr_terrorist at the terminal. Followed it up with "when I say I want explosions, I mean it."
“. But yeah, especially on Match you’re just going to find a cop”
I wonder about those who don’t — wonder *why* they don’t.
If one is willing to believe that the CIA smuggled drugs — not saying the did, only that it’s alleged — would we be surprised if Law Enforcement is involved here as well? There’s lots of Federal money floating around, and I’d love to see an objective, disinterested, audit of it.
Most pedophiles are literally retarded.
Any supporting research?
"I wouldn’t think there would be that many mothers of 4-10 year olds interested in sending their children off to a pedophile. " -- Sadly, you lead a privileged life if you think that. There's a lot of absolute trash parents who are happy to sell off their kids for money, drugs, or God knows. Percentage-wise, yes, it's a small number, but that's still an awful lot of kids in absolute terms.
You do realize he wasn't looking for a 4 year old's dating profile but an adult to arrange a sexual encounter with a 4 year old, right? I don't get the point of defending pedophiles with this sort of disingenuous argument.
My post was only 3 sentences long, the least you could do is read all of them (or at least the 2nd one)
Yes, I ignored the unfounded assumption, unless you mean to correct me there.
My first thought here was “SWATting” — intentionally getting someone in trouble with the police.
All they have is a GMail address that comes back to a physical address — it’s been a few years since I set up a GMail account, but there was no verification of who I said I was. And passwords do get hacked — mine was a decade or so back.
Now if they had an IP address that traced to a physical address, that would be something, but just the GMail account strikes me as quite sketchy. And you don’t have to be around undergrads long before you find a few who think that it would be fun to get someone into trouble this way. And unless match.com requires a credit card, how difficult would it be to post something there — or to figure out how perverts identify themselves? (That’s probably taught in undergrad law enforcement courses.)
I don't like child molesters, but I'd really like the cops to do a little bit more to respect the 4th Amendment. Whatever happened to answering the posting and seeing what the response was?
Google knows the IP address you used to register and the IP addresses you recently used to read email. The police can in most cases turn that into a physical address with sufficient confidence that even a privacy-minded judge would sign a warrant.
I think there is a legal requirement for some online services to record the IP address used to sign up.
So, you think they just happened to choose someone who had a bunch of child pornography in his house as the swatting victim? Or did they plant that?
“Cyber Tipline Report #53508390”
There’s what, 334 million people in the country and they’ve reported over 53 million people? That’s a LOT….
I remember the vastly inflated numbers of missing children in the '80s and wonder -- and would love to see an audit...
From their website:
"During the last 37 years, our national toll-free hotline, 1-800-THE-LOST®, has received more than 5 million calls. We’ve circulated billions of photos of missing children. We’ve assisted law enforcement in the recovery of more than 376,000 missing children."
I think the point, apedad, is that the tipline report number implies ten times more than the number of calls they allege. They also claim "billions of photos" on a population that scales to single-digit millions (at best) of missing children across their entire 37 year history. Unless they somehow found a thousand photos per kid, their claims are coming across as mere puffery.
(And for clarity, no, passing around 2 photos a billion times each is not what normal english speakers assume when you say you "circulated billions of photos".)
Orgs like this are often dumb and self-congratulatory but I think you're reaching. The report number could be random, they might not combine mostly identical tips, it might go by the order of something else, might be a hash of time and date or location. As for "circulation," I don't agree with you. There are many identical Bibles in circulation. There are many identical dimes in circulation. I don't see an issue there, even if it's puffery.
Criticize them for being bad at their jobs and being terrible at understanding the tech they rely on instead.
I wonder if they are any better than the people they are chasing -- I read somewhere that the USSS assigns agents to this subject for TWO WEEKS and then reassigns them because of the psych damage it does if they do it any longer.
So these people collect pictures of 4-year-olds being violated, and they're not sick as well?
According to their website, the 'tipline' number (currently over '116 million reports') includes reports of 'Apparent child sexual abuse material (CSAM)', of which they state there were almost 30 million in 2021 (up from 20 million in 2020). The vast majority of those reports come from hosting companies - such as the 22 million reported from Facebook.
Also, they say more than 90% of their tips resolve to outside the US.
NCMEC is a real and legitimate organization, with some non-standard ties with government law enforcement. While I would hardly be surprised if there was puffery in their stats, I don't think they would be excessive. I don't think they'd need to be.
I'm having trouble generating outrage that someone who advertised themselves as a pedophile was taken seriously by the courts.
Wait a minute... I know that "probable cause" does not require certainty that evidence will be successfully found during the search but how does it not even require certainty that a crime was committed? That seems like it should be a starting-gate question. If you don't have evidence that a crime even occurred, there's no basis for anything else.
I must also admit to a growing skepticism of any claims made by policy based solely on their "training and experience". While it seems to have worked out here, that phrase is far too ambiguous, deferential and prone to abuse. It has become a synonym for mere intuition. And while your intuition might be right, it is supposed to be insufficient for legal proceedings.
You need probable cause that a crime was committed, and that the evidence will be found there.
One thing that doesn't add up is that they needed a search warrant to look for computers (etc) but that the warrant didn't allow them to search the same?
It's 2023, who *doesn't* have at least one computer or smartphone? So having one (regardless of what's on it) is evidence of a crime?