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Criticism by Public University Professor Isn't "Under Color of Law," Can't Be Unconstitutional Retaliation
From today's Eighth Circuit decision in Brown v. Linder, written by Judge Raymond Gruender and joined by Judges James Loken and Steven Grasz:
James Brown and Marc Linder both work for the State of Iowa. Brown is a urologist at the University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics; Linder is a professor at the University of Iowa College of Law. After Linder criticized Brown's expert testimony in a case unrelated to this one, Brown sued Linder under 42 U.S.C. § 1983, alleging that Linder retaliated against him for engaging in constitutionally protected speech….
According to the complaint, Brown provided expert testimony for a meat-processing company in litigation about the company's compliance with labor regulations. As a board-certified urologist, Brown was asked to opine on the health consequences of the company's bathroom-use policy for its employees. Before, during, and after Brown's testimony, Linder made it known that he disapproved of Brown's support for the company's policy.
First, in the days before Brown's testimony, Linder "registered a verbal complaint" to Karl Kreder, the head of UI's urology department, about Brown. Along with the complaint, Linder sent a series of emails to Kreder in which he referred to Brown's "self-confessed money-driven report, deposition, and hearing testimony." Then, during Brown's testimony, Linder appeared in the gallery wearing a t-shirt that said "People Over Profits." Following the testimony, Linder continued to condemn Brown by making comments in local newspaper articles. In one article, published in both the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier and the Cedar Rapids Gazette, Linder stated that Brown's testimony "could have unleashed … terrible consequences for workers of Iowa." In another, published in UI's student newspaper, The Daily Iowan, Linder called Brown a "hired gun" who "had never even published a single scholarly article on urinary incontinence frequency/urgency." These articles attributed Linder's comments to "Marc Linder, a UI law professor whose focus is on labor law" and "Marc Linder, UI Professor of Law," respectively.
In addition to these published comments, Linder allegedly criticized Brown's testimony by stating or implying that Brown wanted "to [M]ake America Great Again by helping his customer," "subordinate[d] … his medical ethics" in order "to pay his kids' college tuition," and wished for workers to "urinate less and kill animals more." Brown does not say when, in what form, or to whom Linder made these criticisms.
Brown says that Linder's "multi-faceted retaliatory vendetta" caused him and his family emotional and psychological distress. Others expressed to Brown their concerns about Linder. Kreder told Brown that he was worried about Brown's safety and advised him to hire a lawyer. Another UI colleague also recommended that Brown hire a lawyer and told Brown that Linder "is harassing the s**t out of you." To protect himself and his family from Linder, Brown bought a gun and a dog….
Section 1983 provides a cause of action against anyone who, "under color of" state law, deprives a person of federally guaranteed rights. To state a claim under § 1983, a plaintiff must allege facts sufficient to show that the defendant's injurious conduct was "fairly attributable to the State," rather than carried out in a "purely private capacit[y]."
Brown argues that his complaint contains ample facts that together plausibly allege that Linder acted under color of state law. These include that Linder (1) identified himself as a state employee when he criticized Brown in the newspaper articles, (2) relied on "the prestige of his official position with [UI] to gain credibility with his audience," and (3) "used the instrumentalities and resources of the State of Iowa to facilitate his retaliatory conduct." Brown further argues that the complaint adequately pleads state action because it alleges, and Linder himself does not contest, that Linder was acting within the scope of his UI employment when he carried out the retaliatory conduct….
[A] state employee, merely by publicly identifying himself as such, does not act under color of state law. See Magee v. Trs. of Hamline Univ. (8th Cir. 2014). In Magee, we held that a plaintiff failed to plead that a police officer acted under color of state law when her complaint alleged only that the officer identified himself as a state employee in a newspaper editorial disparaging the plaintiff. We explained that to act under color of state law, a state employee must "exercise power possessed by virtue of state law and made possible only because [he] is clothed with the authority of state law." Because the complaint failed to identify any relationship between the officer's conduct and the performance of his duties as a state employee, the plaintiff did not adequately allege conduct under color of state law….
Even assuming that a public-university professor acts in his official capacity or within the scope of his employment when he comments on public
affairs, it would not necessarily follow that he acts under color of state law. See Polk Cnty. v. Dodson (1981) (holding that a public defender does not act under color of state law when "exercising her independent professional judgment in a criminal proceeding"). Indeed, we have suggested that, at least for certain state employment, whether a defendant's conduct is "fairly attributable to the state" depends more on the degree of control that the state exercises over such conduct than on the mere fact that the conduct was within the scope of the defendant's employment. See Montano v. Hedgepeth (8th Cir. 1997). In Montano, we held that a state prison chaplain did not act under color of state law when conducting ecclesiastical activities within the scope of his employment. We observed that, because a prison chaplain's pastoral acts are constitutionally enshrined and not "subject to governmental pressures," such acts, unlike his administrative or managerial acts, are not "fairly attributable to the state." Montano thus demonstrates that "[e]ven when state employees are performing the services for which the state pays them, they may not be state actors while performing functions that the state has no right to control." …The bare assertion that Linder identified himself as a UI law professor and acted within the scope of that employment when he criticized Brown is not enough to allege plausibly that Linder's conduct was state action. Nothing in Brown's complaint indicates that Linder's criticisms involved an exercise of "power possessed by virtue of state law" or were "made possible only because [Linder] [wa]s clothed with the authority of state law." And absent from the complaint is any detail about what Linder's official duties as a state employee include or how his conduct was facilitated by state resources. Without facts like these, Brown fails to allege that Linder's condemnation was anything other than "purely private." …
At the end of the day, we do not doubt that the public might regard a law professor's views on expert testimony as particularly authoritative. Indeed, it is certainly possible that Linder's occupation brought attention to, or elevated the credibility of, his criticism of Brown. Nonetheless, that Linder happens to work for a public university rather than a private one does not, by itself, mean that his conduct was under color of state law.
{We thus need not consider the district court's separate conclusion that Brown failed to allege that Linder's conduct would chill a person of ordinary firmness from engaging in protected speech.}
In theory, Brown may still be able to sue Linder for defamation, but that would be a state-law claim in state court.
Seems to be clearly the right result to me. When I criticize someone in public (someone over whom I have no legal authority), I'm not wielding state power; I'm just speaking.
Disclosure: My UCLA First Amendment Amicus Brief Clinic student Michael Quinan and I had filed an amicus brief on behalf of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression arguing for this result.
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I'm trying to imagine a bigger parasite than that Linder guy. Not coming up with anything.
It's OK,
Shyster won't be able to get a Prostate Exam from any Bored Certified U Dick Doctors (HT whatever Soprano's Character called the Urologist at Tony's Poker game "The Dick Doctor" High Class game, Frankie S Jr!) and good luck getting your BPH/CA treated Surgically, seriously, Urologists make OC look like the Salvation Army,
Frank
He won't have any trouble getting a prostate exam. But instead of a lubricant, the Doc will use liquid sandpaper.
And for some reason, Male Urologist's either have George "The Animal" Steele thick knobby fingers, or those Johny Depp Edward Scissorhands long sharp ones.
It's why I go to one of the few XX Chick Urologists, turn the lights down, mood music, who needs Viagra??
Frank
"XX Chick Urologists"
Like Black MDs in the 1960s or female MDs in the 1970s, my guess is that she'd have to be damn good to have gotten there.
As to fingers, you'd be surprised -- one of the best retina surgeons at Mass E&E is about 6' 04" with the build of a linebacker and very large fingers, but does excellent delicate work.
What about the bar association?
Forgetting that it would inherently be political, let's presume that it was staffed by good government folks. Could said law professor be held accountable as a lawyer?
And even in a "Red" (Red? Ha!, just ask Senators Ass-off/Warlock, only reason we have a Repubiclown Governor is Stacy Abrahams ran again) Klinger (HT Reverend Sandusky) state like Jaw-Jaw, you can't just walk into Court wearing a T-shirt, even in the Peanut Gallery, Judge will throw you out quicker than you can say, "Hunter Biden's Happy Hooker's Heroin Habit" (try saying it fast, it's fun!)
Frank
Accountable for what?
High school teacher in midst of bad divorce breaks into his own home to recover his prized baseball card collection and gets caught.
State revokes teacher's teaching certificate(s) -- permanently.
Is that supposed to be an answer to my question, or did you just have a stroke?
No. This has been yet another episode of Simple Answers to Stupid Questions.
Was he acting in a professional capacity as a lawyer? No. Was he doing anything that could only be done by a lawyer? No. He was doing nothing that anyone in any line of work couldn't do.
David, I usually agree with you, but I don't think that's the standard. A lawyer who commits a violent crime was probably not acting in his professional capacity as a lawyer but I'll bet he gets disbarred anyway.
I believe there's language in the bar rules about not bringing disrepute to the profession. A bar prosecutor could probably charge him with that, though I doubt it would stick.
Why do you believe that? Neither the ABA model rules nor the ones in effect in Iowa contain such a provision. Iowa Rule 32:8.4 (which look substantively identical to model rule 8.4 except for the scope of the ban on discrimination) provides that
Which do you think was plausibly violated here?
b, c, d, g, and I'd give her a good wash too.
“engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice.” Which harassing a witness probably is. It's probably also an attempt to influence a witness, which where I'm from is a felony.
Would that stick? Maybe, maybe not. I can tell you that in Florida, lawyers have been suspended for harassment of witnesses and opposing counsel. Don’t know about Iowa, but down here we’re expected to act like grownups.
So basically you're not allowed to criticize people in harsh terms in Florida? What?
Where the line is crossed from harsh criticism to harassment is a question of fact for a factfinder. But that line does exist.
In a rare turn of events, I may agree with Krychek here.
Here are the facts of the case. Marc Linder had published a book a while ago, regarding the "right to urinate" or something along those lines. Basically that companies should let their employees go to the bathroom when they needed to. He views it as a cause of his, and credits this cause with OSHA changing its policies.
Fast forward a couple decades, and there's a fairly mundane case regarding a company whose supervisors were reprimanding their employees from going to the bathroom outside certain break schedules. OSHA fined the company $3500 and told them to knock it off. During the case, the company brought in Brown as an expert witness, and he testified that on average people only need to use the bathroom once every 3 hours. Pretty mundane stuff, and Brown was paid $600 for his expert testimony.
Apparently this alarms Linder greatly, and he views this as a threat that OSHA may overturn his "legacy" of allowing people to use the bathroom whenever they need to (as opposed to potentially having scheduled breaks). So, he goes on to attack Brown. But not via just criticizing his testimony, but filing official complaints with Brown's supervisor (Brown's supervisor warns Brown that Lindler seems nuts), and Lindler goes on to request all sorts of information about Brown and so on...
At this point I'm sure Brown regrets giving the mundane expert testimony. This type of grief wasn't worth $600.
Question is, is Linder using his position as a University of Iowa employee as a method to attack Brown. And...it starts to look like he may be doing so.
That's not really the question being posed by this lawsuit, but it's certainly not the question here: the question here was, "Could said law professor [i.e. Linder] be held accountable as a lawyer?"
Could he be held accountable as a lawyer?
If the lawyer went around harassing expert witnesses…Perhaps yes.
It might make justice difficult if expert witnesses didn't testify in cases the lawyer was on the other side of, because those expert witnesses were aware of a campaign of harassment for years after the case, that the lawyer engaged in.
"Question is, is Linder using his position as a University of Iowa employee as a method to attack Brown. And…it starts to look like he may be doing so."
Looks that way why?
"It might make justice difficult if expert witnesses didn’t testify in cases the lawyer was on the other side of, because those expert witnesses were aware of a campaign of harassment for years after the case, that the lawyer engaged in."
Where did you lean that Linder was involved in the case that Brown testified in?
"Brown as an expert witness, and he testified that on average people only need to use the bathroom once every 3 hours."
Not very convincing. Assuming the median is close to the mean that means that half the time the need occurs in less than three hours, and then the question is how long you can be expected to "hold it" compared with the time to the next break.
"
Yes, of course. Committing an actual crime is an independent reason for discipline, up to and including disbarment. But of course this guy didn't commit a crime. This guy exercised his constitutionally-protected freedom of speech.
Maybe. It could be construed as harassment, witness intimidation or witness influencing, none of which are protected speech.
Criticizing someone to the media cannot, in fact, be construed as harassment, witness intimidation or witness influencing. (Especially 1-2 years after the witness has already testified!) Nor can wearing a t-shirt during testimony that says "People over profits."
The only thing that arguably could is that he sent a complaint to the head of the guy's department, criticizing the guy. Seems rather unlikely that this isn't constitutionally protected speech.
Hi David - all of this discussion reminds me of the "David Ruiz makes bumptious bar threats re: Ari Cohn" on Twitter.
Ah, yes: cursing is unethical!
I see nothing to suggest that Professor Linder's criticisms of Dr. Brown lacked First Amendment protection. He offered commentary on testimony given in an administrative agency proceeding, an issue of public concern.
I also see no violation of any disciplinary rule, but assuming arguendo that a rule was violated, the First Amendment should foreclose professional discipline. "[D]isciplinary rules governing the legal profession cannot punish activity protected by the First Amendment, and that First Amendment protection survives even when the attorney violates a disciplinary rule he swore to obey when admitted to the practice of law." Gentile v. State Bar of Nevada, 501 U.S. 1030, 1054 (1991).
I think the fact that he’s doing something that could reflect poorly on the law profession is enough to merit a look by the state bar. Not sure what the answer is, but if the harassment is bad enough to merit attention from the head of the UI Urology Department then it’s possibly punishable by the bar, although I wouldn’t think it would rise to the lever of disbarment.
Linder appears to be a guy who has become so partisan in his politics that he’s detached from reason.
The Iowa Rule of Professional Conduct are available here:
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/docs/ACO/CourtRulesChapter/12-30-2022.32.pdf
Which rule do you think might have been violated?
Which is not a basis for imposing professional discipline.
Being detached from reason is -- I once had a long conversation with the Connecticut Bar on behalf of a former student (at his request) and knowing that I wasn't an attorney, she explained the process as well. As I remember it, "being detached from reason" *is* something the bar deals with -- one can be mentally ill (and that is protected by ADA) but when it interferes with the ability to practice law, they have to step in.
One specific example she gave me was when people stop taking their meds -- and with a STUAF background, I knew exactly what she was talking about.
I give up on what "STUAF" means, but I guarantee that unless it's a brand of floor polish, you didn't know what sh was talking about.
Student Affairs.
For that matter, is he a lawyer? He doesn't appear to be licensed in Iowa, and Texas (the last place he's reported to have worked, according to his bio on the law school website) has him listed as inactive.
I didn't check that! Good catch, though I assume that being inactive does not protect one from bar discipline.
Good point, NAS — a bar card is neither required to teach nor be an administrator, and the JD is considered a “Doctorate” — but not a “Terminal Degree” and most people don’t know the difference.
I don’t know if the ABA requires everyone teaching at a law school be licensed to practice in that (or any) state but there is nothing in the general (eligible for Federal FinAid $$$) accreditation that does. Most folk see “lawyer” (particularly from a good school) and stop there. (And maybe the Dean doesn’t want to know.)
Outside of the law school world, the absolute best Constitutional Law Professor that the State of Maine ever had a PhD in Political Science — he’d never gone to law school. He taught undergrads. *I’ve* taught Business Law at a Community College — unlike with K-12, there is no formal qualification of instructors.
What’s worse are the administrators with law degrees who claim to be lawyers — and hence experts in the law. I had to deal with a couple of those at UMass, the biggest problem being that they were WRONG — and stupid.
And then there are the cases of the professors who never actually had the degrees they claimed to have -- nobody bothered to check.
"Was he acting in a professional capacity as a lawyer?
Actually, yes -- if you apply the "Teaching, Research, & Public Service" mantra of the larger university. This concept originated with the Land Grant Universities where professors would go out to the local Granges and answer farmer's questions about land & livestock. They'd test both their soil and their well water -- and the land grants still do some of this for nominal fees.
So by the same token -- IF the concept applies to law schools -- the law professor is going out doing "public service" as an expert in a field that others aren't, much like the ag guy doing soil tests. And if the latter botched those and everyone's crops died, wellllll...
Blah blah blah. Those are all words, but they don't make any sense and don't have any relation to the facts. The law professor wasn't acting as an expert in a field. The urology professor was.
"Blah Blah Blah"? ( I think it's supposed to be "Bla"
Most intelligent thing you've posted.
and "The Urology Professor was" is incorrect Engrish, I don't know, a dangling pronoun, adverb disagreeing with a adjective, malfunction of the conjunction, since this Blogs filled with Grammar Nazis (first they came for the incorrect Capitolizers, then for those who say "Literally"....)
"Was" what? Impotent? (He's a Urologist, Physician, fix your own Tallywhacker) Right? Wrong?
Frank
As usual, Mengele, you're all fucked up. Read what you are responding to again, slowly, and with your eyes open.
“Was” what?
Quite clearly and correctly, the "the urology professor was [acting as an expert in a field]."
Typical English language construction though it might have been preferable to put it all in one sentence with either a comma or semicolon to make it more obvious to any fucking idiot who might be confused.
"Might have been preferable"??
ya think?? I think it "Might have been preferable" if Lee Harvey and James Earl (first rule of investigating Political Assassinations, "Round up every loser with 3 names") hadn't shot John Fitzerald and Martin Lucifer, I mean Luther.
And missed where whether Fucking Idiots (i.e., You) can understand what you mean matters, lets see, "Fuck You" or "fuck, you" do you get my drift??
Frank "Dick, Suck, my"
Oh, Mengele, you have wounded me mortally with your vicious wit.
Why would it be any sort of ethical violation for a law professor to disagree with a urology professor? The law professor might have a bad argument. But why would it be an ethical violation?
The professor here used a more caustic style than standard academic language. But what he did was nonetheless an argument, not mere harassment or name-calling. The line may be hard for zealots to see. But this was well on the discourse side of the line.
Clarification: if the law professor alleged false facts, e.g. if the claim that the urology professor has never published a relevant paper is a false factual claim, he could be sued for defamation, and such libel might be otherwise actionable.
But it might be better for a court to sort that out before the school takes any action.
wasting 250ml 02 per minute (and producing 200ml CO2, almost like there's a chemical reaction or something) and I had to satisfy my curiosity,
and unlike the "Conspiracy's" A-hole "Reverend" in name only, who's ashamed of his Law School, Mr. Linder went to,
Of Course,
Education
Harvard Law School, J.D. 1983
so in the last 40 years I've done more for humanity in 15 minutes at the "Free Clinic" (Only one working for "Free" there is me) than this douche-bag's done in 40 years. Still can't believe the T-shirt in Court thing, don't Courts have Bouncers ??(I know, they call them Marshalls, or Deputies)
Frank
Actually, the T shirt was protected speech -- it was in the gallery of the legislative hearing.
Linder seems like an ass; Brown seems like a snowflake.
He's complaining that the guy… criticized him? And is pretending to be afraid?
Linder attacked his profession reputation. Very publicly. He appears to have tried to get Brown fired. That would piss any of us off.
Probably not a "Coincidence" that Linder's the only Iowa Law Professor that doesn't have his photo on their webpage (photo of the Law School Building instead)
Where I come from the Per-fesser would have an unfortunate encounter with Vito "Ripper" Rocco and Tony "Brass Knuckles" Mattenga, and would develop um, a "Speech Impediment"
Frank "Hates Lawyers, except for mine of course, best Mouthpiece money can buy"
Probably not a coincidence. His profile picture at the UI law school website, for, I don't know, the last ... 3, 4, 5 ... ? years was of him in his "People over Profits" t-shirt.
Well-adjusted people, however, can typically work through that frustration without filing a transparently frivolous lawsuit.
and then there's the "Peter Blunt" school of law
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBAI9dR7gp8
I wasn’t really commenting on the lawsuit. I was responding to this guy dissing Brown for being worried about his safety. The response to his testimony is so overdone that I could see being concerned about the guy’s mental stability.
That isn't what the comment you responded to was addressing.
“Brown seems like a snowflake”.
I don’t think you read too good.
I think the clear parsing is that this is about the lawsuit. Snowflake is about losing it and suing.
Which is borne out by DMN's response to you below.
“Pretending to be afraid”.
You just like to argue for the sake of arguing, even when you don’t have a point.
Someone who knows nothing about the law could well write a $20K-$40K retainer check and then quietly do what the purported expert tells him to do.
Unless this were an attempt to avoid a SLAPP dismissal -- and it might have been, I fail to understand why the Section 1983 route was used.
Um, because 1983 has statutory fee shifting, and defamation (which was also alleged, but which the court punted to state court) does not. Iowa does not have an anti-SLAPP law.
Wow, guess somebody passed the Bar! (I never pass a Bar) Still doesn't mean I don't want Perfessor Linder to meet "Tommy" from Goodfellas (not in real life, it's a friggin Movie) I see Linder as a sissier version of "Billy Batts" thinking he's owed something just because he "Did Time" at Hah-vud.
Frank "Union Rep"
OK David, let me throw you another possibility -- could the law professor have invoked sovereign immunity -- stating that since he was a public employee, he couldn't be sued?
Just asking here --
What -- if anything -- does the IA state tort claims act say here?
Could it possibly be that the obnoxious law professor was shielded from a state libel claim because he was a public employee? That would explain the Sect 1983 because that bypasses the 11th Amendment.
No.
No. And again: there still is a libel claim pending.
I think the accused’s best defense against 1983 was that he was not acting as a state agent but was just expressing a personal opinion. To use an immunity defense wouldn’t he have to be acting as an agent of the state?
Those might be grounds for a defamation suit (if Linder alleged false facts rather than merely negative opinions), but a § 1983 claim?
I agree as to the lawsuit. I was responding to your questioning Brown’s fear for his personal safety. We don’t know everything of course, but based on what’s here it seems as if his critic/stalker is at least a little unbalanced. Might be more than a little.
Plaintiff should have been sanctioned for such a baseless claim. Is there a right not to be slandered/defamed in the Constitution? (And that's on top of all the other deficiencies. Why do courts tolerate this?
It's right there in the "Penumbra" (could Billy Douglas have defined "Penumbra" if you gave him a Funk & Wagners??) along with the right to kill your unborn baby and same/sex/marriage (Hey, I'd take a "Occasional Sex Marriage" No Respect at all!!)
Frank "And I like William O Douglas, William O Douglas was a friend of mine, (not really, I was 13 when he retired from the court) just seems like a cool dude, except for the Liberal part"
It's my understanding that the inherent right to one’s reputation was historically reflected in terms of Amend. I’s “freedom of speech” not extending to libelous, slanderous, or defamatory conduct; regardless of how the standard for proving libel varies between state or status as a public figure/official has changed over time. I would think, though, that the onus is on the injured to submit a separate claim for his injuries or notify the appropriate disciplinary bodies for them to bring a disciplinary complaint.
I think it’s a mistake to treat the right to one’s reputation with the same skepticism one can have when justifying “emanations,” “penumbras,” or Amend. XIV’s “liberty” language to protect a right to use contraceptives or engage in sodomy.
"Brown bought a gun and a dog . . ."
For emotional support, I assume.
I dunno. The guy took multiple shots at Brown’s job. How obsessed with this is he? Hard for you and me to say.
You also don’t know what the dean may have told Brown — what advice he may have given him — e.g. “this guy is crazy, be careful.”
Also not mentioned is what the institution's Behavioral Intervention Team may have concluded about this -- it is possible that the campus police chief warned Brown and suggested the gun & dog.
He took one shot at Brown's job, contacting the department head and criticizing Brown. Over a period of years after the fact, he criticized him several times in the media.
Did Brown contact the police or try for a restraining order? Seems that if he were threatened enough to buy a gun and a dog that he might have considered getting the authorities involved.
And, what is a urologist (head of the urology department) doing offering assessments of someone's mental health? That's like Jenna Ellis opining about constitutional law, or Frank Mengele commenting about English language usage.
This guy reportedly hires out as an expert witness in cancer cases . . . as a urologist. How much more of a stretch would psychiatry be?
Good point -- if true.
AND if he was always on one side or the other -- any evidence of that?
He could -- I'm not saying is -- be a straight shooter who discusses cancer regardless of who loses the lawsuit.
Stella, a Department Chairman -- in anything -- is responsible for the wellbeing of his professors. It's what command is all about....
"He took one shot at Brown’s job, contacting the department head and criticizing Brown"
That you KNOW of.
Do you even know what a Behavioral Intervention Team even IS?
Brown may have been put into the position of (IMHO, wrongly) not being able to repeat all of the things that he had been told. So he can state what he is "allowed" to, but not the rest...
I see you're making up law again based on your janitorial experience.
Just for the fun of teaching the dog to shoot the gun.
A not so subtle warning to the local cops.
A perfectly obvious and correct decision.
Dear Prof. Linder:
I thought you should be aware that some asshole is signing your name to stupid letters and articles.
Yours truly,
James Brown
cc Arthur Modell
Prof. Brown's confusion in this regard might be understandable; he appears to be earnestly trading on his government position and his employer's reputation when seeking work as a mouthpiece-for-hire.
How awful those others are allowed to voice opinions contrary to your own.
I don't know whether I would agree his opinions. I don't know what they are, and I don't know much about urology (regarding which he seems to be knowledgeable) or cancer (about which he apparently testifies with some frequency). I just know he is a guy who admittedly trades on his publicly funded government position, and the reputation of the institution that employs him, as a mouthpiece for hire, then accuses others of abusing government position by criticizing his opinions and conduct. Sounds like a hypocrite and jerk.
Hypocrite? Check, Jerk?? Double Check, Convicted Sex Offender??? if you believe a Jury and years of failed Appeals,
Jerry, for all of your haughty dismissal of the "Klingers" I see you as that dude who holds up the line trying to remember if his card is Credit or Debit (did they have Debit cards when you went in the joint?) Or what's the Penitentiary equivalent? can't remember the # on your phone card (do they still have those??)
Seriously, when you can't figure out who the sucker is at the Poker game, look in the mirror,
Frank
And? When DeSantis tried to prevent Florida public university professors from doing the same, he was rightly criticized (and slapped down by the courts). It's perfectly legitimate for a professor with expertise in a given field to testify as an expert. And it's perfectly legitimate for an expert to be remunerated for his or her service as an expert.
Of course we all know there are 'experts' who will say anything even remotely colorable as long as the check clears, but there's no evidence of such behavior by Brown. The fact that one testifies for a corporation does not indicate the testimony is false.
The point is that this guy is quoted in a publication as expressly stating that he trades on his position as a faculty member (and on the employer's reputation) when offering himself as a mouthpiece for hire . . . then goes to court and cries about another faculty member's "abuse" of a government position when the snowflake's paid-for opinions are criticized.
That report indicated he is a urologist who hires out as a medical expert regularly (more than 40 times in a year), mostly in cancer cases. Maybe there is a sound explanation for that.
The only report I see says that he has served as an expert more than 40 times in a four year period, not more than 40 times a year (which would be nearly impossible). Presumably the "sound explanation" for that is that he's a respected urologist.
"not more than 40 times a year (which would be nearly impossible)"
I agree that is very unlikely, But why impossible? Assume 250 working days a year, that's an average of over six days per case. (Assuming you take weekends off.) Most expert reports take two to three days to write, and most of the time experts don't testify. And even if they do, one day for prep at depo, one day for depo. Six days to devote to one case does not seem impossible to me.
I once had a case where the other side proffered an economics expert whose resume indicated he had drafted some 200 expert reports in the last few years. As far as I could tell, that was his sole source of income.
This article indicates 42 times in four years . . . or a bit less frequently than a white, male, movement conservative blog with a scant academic veneer uses a vile racial slur.
A Bloomberg headline aptly summarizes this decision:
Law Professor’s Free Speech Win Over Testimony Critique Affirmed
This urology professor may well be respected . . . at least, by Iowa standards.
I said almost impossible, not impossible. And the reason I say that is because you neglected to factor in that he has a day job. If he were just a professional expert witness, it would still be ambitious but he could do it. (In theory. Of course, logistics would be tough.) But he also has other professional responsibilities.
OT, but I though relevant considering recent posts
https://www.the-sun.com/tech/7054317/artificial-intelligence-defend-a-human-in-court-first-time/
"ROBO COP Artificial Intelligence is about to defend a human in court ‘for the first time ever’
ARTIFICIAL Intelligence is breaking a new frontier, with a company teasing that their robot will be playing an important part in a trial in court.
The AI robot will be the first to advise a defendant in a court of law.
The news was shared by the publication New Scientist, which explained that the AI would be in the defendant’s phone.
The robot would listen in on court proceedings and would then advise the defendant through an earpiece.
The AI was developed by a company called DoNotPay, which describes itself as “The World’s First Robot Lawyer.”
The company was founded by Joshua Browder and is described as a chatbot.
It was initially designed to battle parking tickets and now has expanded to provide other services, which vary greatly and explain complicated topics to people that need them.
“The DoNotPay app is the home of the world’s first robot lawyer,” reads the website.
“Fight corporations, beat bureaucracy, and sue anyone at the press of a button.”
The website lists a set of features that the AI is allegedly equipped to handle, including college fee waivers, connecting people with inmates, helping out users with bills and rent, facilitating divorce certificates, and more.
Some of DoNotPay’s biggest features include providing advice that'll help you avoid paying a parking ticket.
It also advises on more complex stuff, like creating fake phone and credit card numbers in order to help users avoid paying extra fees and filtering out spam.
The app is a subscription service, charging $36 the year.
The first AI court trial will be held in February, with details like specific dates and locations being protected by the app.
While an AI robot lawyer is definitely an experiment and creates a degree of risk for the defendant, it opens some interesting doors for the future of artificial intelligence. "
While I understand that the court resolved this on the simplest grounds (defendant did not act under color of state law), I would have liked them also to hold that mere criticism cannot be "retaliation."
As for defamation, this sounds like opinion to me.