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Federal Court Blocks Texas Prosecution of Netflix Over Cuties
Judge Michael Truncale (E.D. Tex.) issued a preliminary injunction, including against pending prosecutions, concluding that the film is likely fully constitutionally protected, and that the prosecutor's theory that it contains child pornography is likely unsound. Federal courts generally abstain from blocking pending state prosecutions, under the so-called Younger abstention doctrine. But here the court concluded that the prosecutions fit within the exception to that doctrine for groundless prosecutions brought for the purpose of harassment and retaliation. An excerpt:
Section 43.25 [under which Netflix is prosecuted] is a child pornography statute, but the Court is unconvinced that Cuties contains child pornography. In all of Cuties, there are no sex scenes and there is only one scene that contains nudity. In that one scene, the Cuties are watching a video on one of their phones when a dancer in the video flashes her breast for a fraction of a second. But that dancer ("Jane Doe") was not a minor. Therefore, her nudity cannot constitute child pornography.
Mr. Babin received notice—well before he sought the New Indictments—that Jane Doe was over eighteen at the time of filming. On October 9, 2020, shortly after Netflix received service of the First Indictment, Netflix's counsel met with Mr. Babin and Mr. Hardy to discuss the case and the indictment. Trying to determine what specifically prompted the indictment, Netflix's counsel volunteered that "if the issue were the fleeting sight of a woman's breast, that they should know that the woman was over eighteen and thus not a child when that scene was filmed." Netflix's counsel also offered to provide proof that Jane Doe was over eighteen when the scene was filmed, but Mr. Babin and Mr. Hardy denied that the indictment involved the exposed breast and expressed no need to see such proof. Despite Netflix volunteering this information, Mr. Babin later obtained the New Indictments under Section 43.25—one of which is for Jane Doe's nudity.
For more, see the opinion (Netflix, Inc. v. Babin). Congratulations to E. Leon Carter, Linda R. Stahl, Joshua J. Bennett, and Monica Litle Goff (Carter Arnett PLLC) and David M. Prichard (Prichard Young, L.L.P.), who represent Netflix.
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Its kinda weird how the casual definition of child pornography is gradually being extended to fully clothed people (in some cases adults that simply look young) doing completely normal things on the opinion of random people that some hypothetical pervert could get off on it.
Best for these cromags to not go to Europe where women of all ages don't even own bikini tops, yet society doesn't collapse.
On a practical note, what is the legal status of an image of a 17-year-old woman topless on an European beach? I could see one being in the background of either holiday pictures/video or European media.
Our TV news often has shots of random beachgoers on hot days, I suspect Europe's does too.
So, say, in an attempt to learn Italian, I download their TV newscasts & TV programs. Am I downloading kiddie porn?!?
No.
Any other stupid questions?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cuties-is-an-unflinching-look-at-what-it-means-to-be-a-preteen-girl-no-wonder-people-cant-handle-it/2020/09/16/42fa1bc2-f783-11ea-a275-1a2c2d36e1f1_story.html
I don't see how the kiddie porn laws are Constitutional in the first place.
I have not seen the movie but the court's description does not convince me it is not child pornography under federal precent at least. "Child pornography" can include fully clothed pictures with too much attention drawn to the crotch. It also includes cases where context shows a sexual motive, like a guy with some otherwise-innocent nudes who obviously finds them arousing. In my state we also have a law against posing a nude minor.
Fortunately nobody, especially the court, cares whether you’re convinced.
I recall reading an article many years ago concerning how constrained the rights of child sex offenders could be wrt magazines and books, and they quoted someone who said that the offenders don't generally try to order porn. They order mail-order catalogues of children's clothing.
Does that make those catalogues porn? Nope.
You may be right but just because some guy in his mom’s basement gets prosecuted for something doesn’t mean a powerful Democrat megadonor corporation like Netflix would get prosecuted for the same thing. Far from it. Justice is getting more and more corrupt and selective.
The movie isn't remotely pornographic under any reasonable standard. There's nothing calculated to cater to a prurient interest in it, and it's tame even within its theme, which is pretty much "kids are trying to grow up too fast and feel pressured to sexualize themselves, and that's a bad thing."
I've no interest in watching it myself, but the "Here's how horrible this sex is, let's show you graphically with attractive actors doing lewd things, wink, wink!" genre of pornography has a long history as a way of trying to evade censorship laws.
I believe I've read that they only adopted the justification you relate after getting complaints.
Yet another Brett “I know nothing about this but here’s what I think” special? Delightful!
We discussed exactly this a couple years ago, you may recall. You're describing the defense they mounted of the film after the backlash began, not how it was originally promoted.
The theme doesn’t really make sense.
“Here’s a bad thing we’re doing before your very eyes. Isn’t this bad? Yes, the very thing we are doing as we film this, is the precise thing we are saying is bad and should not be done. But we are only doing it to show you how bad it is.”
Of course that doesn’t make it criminal, but that should be up to the State not the federal judiciary.
I'm not sure that is actually the theme, anyway. More like, hey the world is tough but this is how it is.
Apparently a major theme is that the Islamic mother and family are bad and repressive because they oppose things like the daughter wearing revealing clothing and twerking on stage. That gives you a more balanced picture of the themes.
Makes me wonder if the 1995 movie Kids could attract the ire of a prosecutor. Aside from the sex talk an unconscious 15 year old is raped.
I used to work for a company that did point of purchase displays. One of our clients was a manufacturer of underwear and nightwear for girls between the ages of 13 to 18. When building a 3d model of the display you sometimes had to have the art on the display. Every image came with a certification that the models were over 18. If the wrong person would have come in at the wrong time it could have become a hassle. We tried for years to find a woman designer for that account, but, couldn't find one.
The bottom of the first paragraph says "doctrine for groundless protections brought for the purpose of harassment ..." Is that correct? How can a "protection" be groundless? Should that be "prosecutions"?
Whoops, sorry -- fixed, thanks!