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Plaintiff in Title IX Wrongful Discipline Case Against University May Depose His Accuser
From Judge Reed O'Connor's order today in Doe v. Texas Christian Univ. (N.D. Tex.):
[Non-party Jane] Roe's earlier reports of sexual assault by Plaintiff John Doe prompted Defendant TCU's institution of Title IX disciplinary proceedings against him and, in turn, gave rise to this suit…. [Doe subpoenaed Roe] to appear for deposition.
In September, the court held that Doe was entitled to take Roe's deposition:
Roe argues that requiring her to appear for an in-person deposition would produce only irrelevant, duplicative testimony, given that she has already testified exhaustively on the record produced in the Title IX disciplinary proceedings. She argues that any information she possesses has no bearing on any of Doe's claims—erroneous outcome, selective enforcement, or gender bias—and that the Court's consideration should be confined to the disciplinary record. Second, Roe claims that compelling her testimony would impose an undue burden in the form of "significant emotional harm and trauma" by forcing her to relive the experiences giving rise to her sexual assault allegations.
Doe argues that it is essential to depose Roe—who is designated as a key witness by both parties to the suit—because she has personal knowledge and information "relevant to the fairness and thoroughness of the process from its inception to its end," including information about the myriad interviews, meetings, and investigation that TCU conducted prior to and during the proceedings to which she was a party or witness; and information shedding light on her own credibility, including her motives for and manner of reporting. Doe also claims that Roe's evidence that compelling her testimony would impose an undue burden is insufficient and that she must therefore be deposed….
The Court finds that Doe's need to discover information about interviews, meetings with TCU officials, the investigation, the panel hearing, and the appeal in which she participated directly or as a witness are relevant to Doe's claims as it may shed light on both the accuracy of the outcome of the disciplinary proceeding (erroneous outcome) and TCU's potentially disparate treatment of Roe (a female) and Doe (a male) throughout the investigation and proceedings (gender bias; selective enforcement). Information reflecting on Roe's credibility—including potential motives to lie or to report, contradictory statements, and conversations with others throughout the process—is similarly relevant to Doe's claim of erroneous outcome.
Having considered her evidence, the Court recognizes that Roe's deposition will necessarily impose some hardship on her given the sensitive nature of the case. However, with the following limitations, the Court finds that allowing the deposition would not impose an undue burden and that it is justified in light of Doe's need to obtain the information.
Roe moved to reconsider, and yesterday the court adhered to its original decision:
In the intervening two weeks between the Court's first Order and her motion to reconsider, Roe obtained a second opinion from a treating professional that indicates requiring Roe to sit for a deposition "could be a trauma trigger," could cause Roe "distress," could "negatively impact her mental health," and "may cause her progress [made in counseling] to stall and fall behind." Primarily based on this treating professional's opinion, Roe asks the Court to reconsider its previous decision and to quash the deposition in its entirety….
[But w]hen considering Roe's initial motion to quash, the Court weighed Doe's need for Roe's testimony with the significant burden obtaining it would likely impose on her (according to her first treating professional, Kim Garrett). There the Court found that crafting parameters for the deposition, rather than completely quashing it, was an appropriate remedy in light of Doe's considerable need for information highly relevant to his dispute with TCU. The Court made this determination despite Ms. Garrett's unequivocal opinion that a deposition would, "to a reasonable degree of professional certainty," cause Roe "significant emotional harm and trauma." The declaration of Roe's second treating professional, which provides a more modest assessment that a deposition "may" or "could" be detrimental to Roe's well-being, does not alter the Court's undue burden analysis….
Again, the Court recognizes that permitting Roe's deposition to proceed will impose some degree of hardship on her given the sensitive nature of the instant dispute. The burden that necessarily comes with being deposed about one's allegations of sexual assault is not lost on the Court.
Still, the Court finds that the burden imposed is not so unreasonable and oppressive that it outweighs Doe's substantial need to obtain relevant information from Roe regarding the underlying allegations that gave rise to this lawsuit. And with the conditions previously imposed on the deposition—in addition to Doe's subsequent agreement not to appear in-person at the deposition—the Court finds that modifying the subpoena, rather than quashing it outright, is the appropriate remedy. Accordingly, the Court ORDERS that Roe's deposition be subject to the following conditions [which are similar to the ones in the original order -EV]:
- The single deposition shall occur at a neutral site (as agreed by the parties);
- The deposition shall be limited to 4 hours total;
- No more than two attorneys may be present for either party (as agreed by the parties);
- Roe shall be entitled to have one party present aside from counsel;
- Doe may not seek any information from Roe regarding her prior sexual history with anyone other than Doe and is ORDERED to refrain from seeking information for the purpose of embarrassment, harassment, or other improper means.
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Guessing that it's a typo on the middle and that Roe requested the reconsideration, not Doe?
If not, curious what Doe had to complain about?
Whoops, thanks, fixed.
Nice to know that you care enough about your posts to check in on the comments occasionally.
He also responds substantively to comments on occasion. Plus reminds people to be respectful to other commenters when that's called for.
This white, male, conservative Republican blog censors liberals for making fun of conservatives, claiming to be enforcing civility standards, yet ignores calls for liberals to be gassed, raped, shot in the face, sent to Zyklon showers, placed face-down in landfills, pushed into woodchippers, etc. Not to mention the regular use of vile racial slurs and the relentless, daily, racist, gay bashing, misogynistic, immigrant-hating, Islamophobic, antisemitic, right-wing bigotry. The standard at this blog isn’t respectfulness; it’s low-grade, brutal, hypocritical partisanship.
Carry on clingers. So far as better Americans permit, that is.
Oh, definitely -- indeed, I often check the comments precisely to see if people have pointed out any errors, any important backstory items, follow-up decisions, etc.
This white, male, right-wing blog provides weird, wall-to-wall coverage of treatment of men accused of sexual assault -- and seems to report on just about every decision issued by a certain nondescript federal trial court judge from backwater Texas.
Carry on, clingers.
One fights to protect freedoms on distasteful grounds before they encroach on something more meaningful.
'member when Mr. And Mrs. Middle America wanted to ban Nazi marching, and you shit all over them to protect Nazis?
Good times...good times.
The important thing about the First Amendment isn't that there's high value in every last vibration from some drooler's mouth.
It's in denying dictator-wannabees their best weapon in the golf bag of tyrants: censorship.
The value in confronting your accuser is to deny tyrant-wannabees another favorite power: secret trials and "trust us, you need to go to jail".
Never happens? Bullshit. We almost got rid of a president based, at least in part, on testimony by a "secret witness".
The issue is the myopic focus, not the valor of the cause.
Misandrist Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland
I muted him long ago. You know what he'll say on any issue, and it saves a lot of space.
Thank you (for your screen name, which demonstrated the Prof. Volokh was not being truthful when he claimed he was censoring liberals for vulgar puns that violated a "civility standard" rather than engaging in straightforward, old-fashioned, viewpoint-driven, partisan censorship).
Isn't he from Dallas?
Northern District of Texas, Fort Worth Division. Fort Worth and a shambling collection of desolate, can’t-keep-up counties. A single-judge operation until a few years ago.
Stupid clingers....men have no rights
Ah yes. . . the poor, white, American male.
***sheds a tear***
Imagine wanting due process and fair procedures for *everyone*.
This blog doesn't seem interested in "everyone." It vividly demonstrates a myopic focus on the interests of particular white males, conspicuously disregarding the interests of many -- perhaps most -- people.
Do you know he is white? Would it change your mind if he is black?
“White men should not be afforded constitutional protections because _________ (fill in any historical sin or perceived present-day slight).
You can’t be taken seriously, and I rarely do.
It would not change my mind.
This blog has the tastes of a teenaged white male with no friends but shelves full of Ayn Rand, country music, gun magazines, and Trump merchandise.
Filed for later use. You don’t care if a black college man doesn’t get to rebut charges of sexual assault.
I do not object to anyone defending his rights.
I find this blog's fixations strange. Because they are.
This just shows how little you pay attention. Pretty much all of the Conspirators, except Blackman, were anti-Trump.
They are professors so things that are happening on college campuses and in administration is something they are thinking about and dealing with daily. And right now issues surrounding due process in Title IX cases is a big one. So much so that RBG herself called out the lack of due process being afforded to pretty much exclusively male students.
How much do you hate yourself that you religiously read a blog/comments and then comment when there is never anything you even want to listen to or think about, much less agree with.
" Pretty much all of the Conspirators, except Blackman, were anti-Trump. "
If so, they keep that on the down-low. Anyone who endorsed John Eastman and Ted Cruz is a MAGA loser.
A disproportionate percentage of the accused males are Black, but no one keeps this stastic.
Truly those who believe everyone has rights are abhorrent.
"report on just about every decision issued by a certain nondescript federal trial court judge from backwater Texas"
Remember the fun times when a federal judge in Hawaii put in place a national injunction that basically stopped all of Trump's initial immigration reform which resulted in him questioning why a small court on a far away island had such power? Oh the finger waging lecturing we got from the left about how the courts work and our constitutional form of government for weeks after that. Guess those lessons didn't stick....
NPC Alert.
This is an interesting case. It balances a third party's rights with the rights of a litigant. Why wouldn't this be on the menu?
What race are the people accused of sexual assault?
I would bet my bottom dollar the university comes up with a magical settlement before that deposition happens.
Why? Do you hypothesize a conspiracy by the university that might be undermined by Roe's testimony?
I doubt the deposition will help the university case any and also I imagine there will be some internal political pressure to "protect the victim" that will force the issue. Internal university bureaucrats are militant about Title IX and will do just about anything for it.
Define conspiracy. Is a concerted effort by the Obama administration to institute a “believe all women all the time” policy that ruined young men’s lives a conspiracy? Universities instituted policies where men couldn’t defend themselves. The defendant (guilty party) couldn’t question the accuser. Text messages casting serious doubt about the rape accusation were ignored.
There have been dozens of such lawsuits successfully argued or settled.
Obama committed extortion.
Seems like an awful lot of resources being spent on this Title IX stuff. Imagine how much better educated people would be if we just left crimes to the criminal justice system.
Look, there has to be something all those DEI administrators get to do. They can't all literally just show up, get a cup of Matchta, attend a couple of meetings, take a yoga break, take a meditation break, take a coffee break, get some red wine (on tap), and then go up to the roof and enjoy the nice weather.
Oh, wait. Sorry, wrong organization.
Or...it's a gift to lawyers to give them a new domain to shoot around in like drunken Cheneys.
I went to Baylor for my undergrad. When our scandal broke several years ago, that was always my question.
Why did the young woman go to a counselor and a coach instead of the police? What did she expect would happen? They couldn’t unilaterally decide to kick him out of school. The coach could kick him off the team, but that’s about as fair as the kangaroo courts universities set up.
Rape U.? In backwater, can't-keep-up Texas?
Checks out.
Here, I give a proper example of the use of the term 'begging the question." The question at issue is whether there was a sexual assault in the first place. Claiming that Roe will be harmed by having to relive an assault that has not been proven to have happened in the first place 'begs the question' as to whether there ever was an assault. The opinion of a 'treating professional' is irrelevant to the case. Said treating professional assumes the very thing that is at issue. If the opinion of the treating professional (whatever the F that means) has any value to the court, then Doe's case should be thrown out. Why do we need a court if random shrinks can make determinations as to the facts of the case?
Ah, English, how I love thee. Wouldn't this be better described as "assuming facts not in evidence", rather than "begging the question", though? We're still at the discovery phase of the investigation, not the judgment phase. Begging the question implies a conclusion.
In this litigation, that's actually only a secondary issue. Remember that this is a suit by Doe against the university, not a defense by Doe. Doe is arguing that the investigation violated his rights. Even if he were guilty, the investigation could still have been conducted so poorly that it violated his rights.
For a more extreme example, consider a pickpocket caught on tape and clearly guilty. Despite the obvious evidence of guilt, the police torture him into a confession. The pickpocket also argues that are targeting him because he's left-handed (assume for the sake of argument that there is in fact evidence that the police regularly pursue left-handed pickpockets while ignoring right-handed pickpockets). Let's further assume that the pickpocket wants to claim that the police intimidated witnesses, falsified evidence, etc. The fact that he's guilty of pickpocketing does not excuse the police for abusing the process along the way.
Very great points!
I still don't get some of the restrictions. Things like "Doe may not seek any information from Roe regarding her prior sexual history with anyone other than Doe and is ORDERED to refrain from seeking information for the purpose of embarrassment, harassment, or other improper means."
Seems to me Doe is basically saying Roe is lying about the incident which in and of itself is embarrassment at the least and harassment as well. As for Roe's sexual history other than with Doe I could see some (but not all) circumstances (like being a sex worker with over a thousand clients) where it might be relevant.
On a more general issue Title IX really needs to be brought more in line with current jurisprudence.
See Fed R. of Evidence 412.
FRE 412 applies to the introduction of evidence at trial and not to the scope of discovery. The discoverability of an alleged victim's sexual history is resolved pursuant to the standard of FRCP 26. Moreover, because FRE 412(b)(2) contains an exception allowing sexual history to be admitted in civil cases, the accused will often have an argument that discovery is necessary in order to determine whether the exception applies.
Anyway, it sounds like in this case the main arguments concern the university's procedures, so it stands to reason that the plaintiff may not care about delving into the alleged victim's sexual history.
We were better off under the old regime where men could rape women with impunity than the tyranny we have now.
Yes, because those are the only two options for people who are not capable of escaping binary thinking.
My suggestion is file a goddamn police report. Press charges. Don’t go to a counselor or who sets up a kangaroo court where a young man can’t defend himself.
Duke lacrosse ring a bell?
There have been dozens of universities who have already settled or been beaten in court.
Good suggestion. I have reached a conclusion that not only should all credible accusations of criminal conduct be handled by the criminal justice system but also that (1) campus police departments should be reduced to security guard operations, without arrest or police investigation authority, and (2) all educational institutions should be mandatory reporters for sexual assault and likely other criminal matters.
I don't think those are the only two options. But if presented with the false dilemma, I posit that the former regime was better.
It’s revealing advocates have to pretend our only choices are rape with impunity or the complete lack of due process or basic fairness for their preference to be defensible. It seems an implicit admission any of those choices in between are superior.