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Greg Ablavsky Responds to Rob Natelson's "Cite Check"
I'm glad to see co-blogger David Kopel following the very fruitful exchange between Greg Ablavsky and Rob Natelson about the original scope of federal power over Indian affairs (an exchange I tracked earlier here). David mentions and quotes a "cite check" that Natelson recently published taking issue with a number of the citations and quotations in Ablavsky's 2015 article.
I thought readers might also be interested to know that a couple of days ago, Ablavsky published a detailed 40-page response to Natelson's cite check, which you can download here. Here is an abstract:
As part of an ongoing and often heated academic disagreement, Robert Natelson recently purported to "cite check" my 2015 Yale Law Journal article Beyond the Indian Commerce Clause. He claims that the article had a "disturbing number of inaccurate, non-existent, and misleading citations, as well as deceptively-edited quotations," and suggested that the article was likely published only to placate a faculty member or due to left-wing bias.
Given Mr. Natelson's earlier ad hominem attacks, no one could mistake him for a good faith critic of my work. However, because of the stakes of this dispute, which takes place in the shadow of the upcoming Brackeen v. Haaland case at the Supreme Court, I have taken the time to respond thoroughly to each of his concerns about my article. I group his critiques into three categories:
1) Plain Error: Every single one of the sources Mr. Natelson claimed was "non-existent" is readily available online and confirms my original citation. Unaided by me, my law student research assistants were able to find them in mere moments. I'm honestly quite surprised that a scholar would risk their reputation by making such obvious and easily proven errors in levying serious charges against another scholar.
2) Misleading Use of Context: Mr. Natelson repeatedly argues that the full context of quotations vindicates his position and rules my interpretations not only invalid but deceptive. He does this by writing limiting principles into the plain text of sources that do not contain them, expressing certainty on what the sources really meant even in the face of silence. At best, he has floated possible alternate explanations that I find highly implausible given the evidence. But, though I think my interpretations stronger, I cannot "prove" Mr. Natelson's view wrong any more than Mr. Natelson can "prove" my view wrong: no responsible historian would assert such certainty in the face of a silent source. The only claim here that I think can be deemed objectively wrong is Mr. Natelson's claim to definitive authority and knowledge.
3) Asserting Interpretive Disagreements Are Factual Errors: Many of the critiques that Mr. Natelson makes are actually interpretive disagreements that he claims are factual errors. Mr. Natelson is free to dispute my views, which he clearly does. But the idea that I committed scholarly misconduct by offering my interpretations in my own article is laughable. This standard of "cite-checking" decrees as sound scholarship only the interpretations that Mr. Natelson deems correct—a standard ultimately subversive of scholarship itself.
I have not repaid Mr. Natelson's article with the attention that he has lavished on mine. However, in the course of researching this response, I asked my RAs to examine his evidence from Eighteenth-Century Collections Online that the phrase "commerce with Indians" and its analogs "almost invariably meant 'trade with the Indians' and nothing more." Without any involvement by me, my RAs disagreed with this assessment. They concluded that the phrase only clearly meant trade in a little more than half (58%) of the instances that Mr. Natelson relied on.
I admire the patience both scholars have had for this exchange, and I'd recommend anybody reading Natelson's critique to read Ablavsky's response along side it.
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Was this published before the Volokh Conspiracy’s recent examination of this issue, or after?
Why is Prof. Baude, rather than Mr. Kopel, providing this additional information?
The Dave Kopel post on the Volokh Conspiracy is dated 10/11. The metadata on the Gregory Ablavsky PDF says it was created on 10/13.
Although the SSRN page says it was written 10/10.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4244353
"Every single one of the sources Mr. Natelson claimed was "non-existent" is readily available online and confirms my original citation. Unaided by me, my law student research assistants were able to find them in mere moments."
If true, that is damning. There is only one appropriate response- an apology and retraction.
Any thing other than that (the whole, "Yeah, I might have been totally wrong about the facts and my attacks, but I'm still right because of X, Y, and Z,") will just show that Mr. Natelson is not interested in the truth, and his claims should not be taken seriously in any context.
Also, as a rule of thumb, before publicly accusing someone of fraud, dishonesty or bad faith, it might be a good idea to raise your concerns with them privately.
As a corollary, it is usually wiser to lay out one’s findings more matter-of-factly, and let the reader (or the scholarly community) make its judgment about honesty and good faith.
I wondered about this, too. While the "read both articles" recommendation is certainly wise, the citations part is a factual dispute that I as a layman can't judge. It would be nice if Baude, Volokh, Kopel, or someone would say if Natelson's claims re: citations are factually correct or not.
Don't hold your breath.
So I read the full piece. Here's my thoughts-
1. There were three instances of Natelson incorrectly accusing Ablavsky of making up sources. Ablavsky has the receipts. One of them is a pagination issues- different versions of the text have the cited material at different pages; the other two are just wrong. To be clear- if you are going to accuse someone of making things up, you better (1) make sure it's not just a pagination error on your side, and (2) ensure that you've performed your due diligence. This, alone, should be enough to rubbish the work of Natelson.
2. To be clear, and as others have said- if someone was interested in the truth (as opposed to having other interests) they would have reached out and contacted the other scholar or made more effort to locate sources, instead of making these assumptions and making incorrect accusations of bad faith.
3. The contextual section (pp. 9-20) is also quite damning to Natelson. The equivalent of a serious scholarly smackdown ... IMO.
4. Finally, the interpretive disagreements (pp. 20-36) is just that- not errors, but genuine disagreements of interpretation. Which again is damaging to Natelson.
After a review of this paper, I struggle to think of a context in which Mr. Natelson's words on any subject should be taken seriously.
I called former Prof. Natelson a low-grade hack at the fringe.
I stand uncorrected.
His standing at the Volokh Conspiracy, however, seems secure. Maybe we can look forward to some Natelson-Blackman collaborations.
Carry on, clingers.
I just noticed that Natelson is not listed among the contributors to this white, male blog. I thought he was a Conspirator. Has he been tossed for failure to meet this blog’s professional standards?
If so, what does this indicate with respect to Blackman’s prospects? And did it occur before or after this week’s humiliation?
Were it not for the fact that Brackeen v. Haaland is before the SCOTUS, I'd be tempted to rest my reaction to this dispute entirely upon the observation by Kissenger (among others) that academic politics are so vicious precisely because the stakes are so low."