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Let States Issue Immigration Visas - a Federalist Response to GOP Governors' Migrant Busing Stunts
GOP governors' ploy highlights the value of giving states the power to issue their own migration visas. It can simultaneously ease labor shortages, reduce disorder at the border, enable more migrants to escape poverty and oppression, and help restore the original meaning of the Constitution.

The Republican governors of Arizona, Florida, and Texas have been busing recently arrived Latin American migrants to Democratic "sanctuary" jurisdictions. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis even had 50 Venezuelan migrants flown to the Massachusetts island of Martha's Vineyard. So far, this policy has mostly amounted to political theater, using migrants as props. But, despite the cynical motives of the Republican governors, the idea of giving migrants a chance to go to states that welcome them is a good one that could alleviate many flaws of America's immigration policy.
Liberal sanctuary states support expanded immigration to such an extent that they refuse to cooperate with most federal efforts to deport undocumented migrants. More conservative state governments often prefer a more restrictive immigration policy.
Both red and blue states can benefit from a policy allowing state governments to issue visas and work permits to immigrants not otherwise eligible for legal entry under federal law. State-based visas would enable state governments to take in immigrants who can fill needed slots in the economy, refugees fleeing poverty and oppression, and anyone else whom they might wish to welcome. Particularly at a time of massive labor shortages in many parts of the economy, such added migration would be a great boon to receiving states. Even some red states have recognized the need for additional immigrant labor in areas of their economies. For example, GOP members of Congress from rural states have sought to pass a bill increasing guest-worker visas for agricultural laborers.
A system under which states could grant visas without federal approval would enable them to swiftly secure as much labor as they wish – and also to help people fleeing oppression. The present US refugee system is slow to the point of sclerosis, admitting a record-low of 11,411 refugees in fiscal year 2021. Letting states do their own refugee admissions would enable far more people to escape poverty and tyranny, especially if states could partner with private organizations, along the lines of Canada's successful private refugee-sponsorship program.
Some conservatives claim the negative reaction of destination states to Republicans' busing of migrants proves that sanctuary jurisdictions are hypocritical, and don't really want immigrants to come. But the very fact that they embraced sanctuary policies is strong evidence to the contrary. Such laws deliberately make undocumented immigrants more difficult to deport, and thus increase the size of the migrant population. Many sanctuary jurisdictions demonstrated their commitment to their policies by fighting prolonged (and mostly successful) legal battles to defend them during the Trump administration.
Moreover, most of the blue-state outrage over the busing is not about the presence of the migrants themselves (whom charities and local residents mobilized to help) – but over the use of migrants as political pawns and the ways in which some were deceived about where they were going, and enticed with false promises of work permits. A state-based visa system could mitigate such problems by automatically granting work permits and leaving migrants in no doubt about where they are going. Sanctuary jurisdictions and others genuinely want more immigrants, and state-based visas could help them achieve that goal.
Conservative border states and others who seek to alleviate disorder at the border could also achieve some of their goals by such a policy. If state governments could issue their own migration, work, and refugee visas, many migrants would have no reason to cross the southern border in the first place. They could instead go directly by plane or ship to the states that grant them entry. Those that do cross the southern border would not need to do so illegally or cause any disruption. They could use legal ports of entry, and then quickly get on their way to their final destinations. Most of the disorder, violence, and death at the border is caused by the lack of legal pathways to entry, which forces people fleeing poverty and oppression into the black market. State visas could greatly mitigate that problem. A state-based visa system would also channel immigrants to states that want them, thereby reducing undocumented migration to those that don't. As Wall Street Journal columnist Jason Riley points out in a recent article, a system of state-based visas would simultaneously ease labor shortages, and reduce disorder at the border.
State-based visas also alleviate the harms caused by a situation where large numbers of migrants wait many months to have their asylum claims adjudicated, while also being ineligible to work legally, and thereby having to subsist on charity, welfare, or the black market. A state visa program can incorporate immediate work authorization, which would simultaneously benefit the migrants themselves, enable them to immediately start contributing to the US economy, and minimize reliance on public funds. Immigrants with work permits can swiftly begin to support themselves and their families.
State-sponsored visas are not a new idea. They have, in the past, been advocated by politicians from both parties. In 2017, Republicans Sen. Ron Johnson (Wisc.) and Rep. Ken Buck (Colo.) proposed a bill that would enable states to issue work visas for up to three years, and later renew them (though Buck later backed out). More recently, Utah Republican Rep. John Curtis advanced a similar plan. In 2019, then- Democratic Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg (now Secretary of Transportation under President Biden) proposed a system of "place-based" visas under which communities seeking additional labor could sponsor visas for migrants who would have to remain there for three years, before becoming eligible for permanent residency anywhere in the United States. The Biden administration later put forward a version of this proposal. Visas granted by subnational governments have also been successfully used by Canada and Australia. For a more detailed overview of the Canadian and Australian systems, and various US proposals for state-issued visas, see here. But none of these ideas have made much progress in Congress, so far.
Increasing state control over immigration policy should also appeal to conservatives and others who seek a return to the original meaning of the Constitution. As James Madison, the "father of the Constitution," Thomas Jefferson, and other key Founders argued, the text and original understanding of the Constitution did not give the federal government any general power to restrict immigration. For the first hundred years of American history, immigration policy was largely under the control of the states. It may not be possible to fully restore that approach. But a system of state-issued visas would be a step in the right direction.
State-based visas are by no means perfect. Depending on how such a program is structured, immigrants who receive them might - at least initially - be confined to a particular state, thereby sometimes missing out on valuable job and educational opportunities. That could also reduce their potential contributions to the US economy, if a given immigrant could be most productive in a state other than the one that granted the visa. From a moral standpoint, it would be preferable to completely eliminate laws under which where people are allowed to live and work is restricted by arbitrary circumstances of parentage and place of birth.
But, as always, the best should not be the enemy of the good. For migrants fleeing poverty and oppression like the Venezuelans flown to Martha's Vineyard at the behest of Ron DeSantis, the right to live and work in even one American state would be a vast improvement over being barred from all. And pro-immigration states can further mitigate the problem by granting reciprocal access to each others' state-based visa holders.
Ron DeSantis has rightly said that Venezuela's socialist government "is responsible for countless atrocities and has driven Venezuela into the ground." If he and other Republicans mean what they say about the evils of socialism, they should stop using migrants as pawns, and instead support a system that makes it easy for victims of repressive regimes to find freedom in American states that want them. Progressives, libertarians, and others should also recognize that such a system would be a major advance over the status quo.
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alternatively the biden adminstration could start enforcing immigration laws
Right. This is a Heads-I-win-Tails-you-lose proposal.
Unless the federal government will enforce immigration laws to states that don’t want them, this is dead on arrival.
Maybe we should shut it down, like was done in the 1920s . Sort out who is here and then start over following the law.
As we have seen at Martha’s Vineyard the liberal sanctuary supporters are more than happy to welcome illegal aliens, as long those aliens are housed elsewhere.
They were housed a few miles away from where the airport is they arrived at. Should they be housed at the airport??
They were not illegal, and they wanted to go where the jobs were ayhow.
Sure, but first we'll need to address the fact that the Biden administration has been blocked from changing immigration policy by Trump appointed judges. The administration has attempted to make immigration policy changes--probably changes you'd disagree with, admittedly--but they're currently unable to do so.
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Sure, but first we’ll need to address the fact that the Biden administration has been blocked from changing immigration policy by Trump appointed judges. "
Seriously - there is not a single court ruling preventing the biden adminstration from enforcing immigration law - immigration law as written
These people are here legally.
Remember the Remain in Mexico policy?
I remember when you wept for Elian Gonzalez and wanted him to remain with his American kidnappers…now you don’t care about asylum seekers fleeing communism. My how times have changed. 😉
I remember when you wept for Elian Gonzalez and wanted him to go back into Communist oppression because not only wasn't it a big deal, but you harbored sympathies for Cuba.
It's ironic "that side" wants to import people hand over fist so they can win elections and slowly reorient this nation into a broken-economy with control over business (the corruption's kickback-induction engine.) I.e. wreck the whole economic reason to welcome immigrants!
I like this state visa idea. I see that it had support from some in Congress on both sides. I like the idea that visa holders could travel by ordinary means, rather than crossing the Mexican border. Let's see if Congress is interested in solving a problem as opposed to exploiting a problem.
In defense of DeSantis. Last winter, the feds flew planeloads of immigrants to JAX airport. No warning or coordination with the state. They dumped them on the airport tarmac at 3AM and the planes flew away. DeSantis' reply is just fair turnabout of this Biden admin ploy. It is unrelated to the countries where immigrants come from.
It probably wouldn’t work. If we cannot keep them from risking their lives to cross a dangerous border in the middle of a forsaken desert, what makes anyone think we can keep them limited to just a single state? So California or Colorado provides massive “state-based” visas, the folks come in to work, and then they move to Texas, Florida, and Arizona where there are low or no available visas. And really, this isn’t any different than the third largest group of illegal immigrants, from China, that use visitor visas and airplanes to cross the border.
Two wrongs don’t make a right, yadda yadda. There is no “fair play” when you’re lying to people in order to use them in a political stunt. It’s wrong no matter who does it.
States that welcome illegal immigrants? Strip away the virtue signaling and you won't find many. Especially after the menial-labor positions are filled.
Strip away the straw and the strawman doesn't exists anymore. No states welcome illegal immigrants. Some cities and states have made practical concessions to live with an issue they cannot change.
Some conservatives claim the negative reaction of destination states to Republicans' busing of migrants proves that sanctuary jurisdictions are hypocritical, and don't really want immigrants to come. But the very fact that they embraced sanctuary policies is strong evidence to the contrary.
And once again Somin is backwards on everything. Blue states actions contradict their words. Notice they were fine with illegal immigration and all the hassle. As long as someone else had to pay for it. Massachusetts complained after getting 50 illegals...what Texas gets in an hour.
Words are cheap. Actions show you what people believe.
You would think that so obvious a point would be thought of by Somin.
Obviously wrong. Perhaps you or Billy G could supply an example of blue states being "fine with illegal immigration and all the hassle." I would've thought even you could recognize such a blatant straw man.
In Europe, Germany is very generous in refugee policies that don't affect it much. EU policy says the country where a migrant or refugee first arrives gets to deal with the problem. De jure, that includes Germany. De facto, that means countries within a boat ride of or sharing a land border with non-EU countries.
Sanctuary policies are actions, not words.
By "original" you mean, prior to 1880?
It sounds suspiciously like a form of Neo-Indenture to me.
It does; I agree. However, undocumented immigrants are subject to the same risks no matter where they land except sanctuary jurisdictions. It's easy enough to use someone's lack of legal residency to force them into some form of servitude--especially if they have had children in the US and being deported means leaving them behind. At least in sanctuary jurisdiction, the local law enforcement will not deport them if they haven't committed a violence offence.
I'd call that "Putting lipstick on a pig". Adding a legal façade to an otherwise reprehensible practice doesn't make it much better.
If we can't keep them from entering the country illegally, how do we stop them from crossing from Illinois to Texas? The blue states can sponsor as many as they want, admit them to Chicago or New York, then let them move on to Florida or Texas like everyone else.
Not a very bright idea, unless Somin just wants unregulated immigration.
Spoiler: He just wants unregulated immigration.
We need the workers now, whereas the solid yet slow growth economy from 2014–2019 didn’t really need workers. The pandemic made many Americans realize they had enough in savings to retire but we need more workers. Btw, Republicans will just virtue signal because the only asylum seekers that will get to vote will be the Cubans who will be voting Republican in a year. And I will never support anything Cuban Americans promote because they will lose all my respect as a community if they end up voting for DeSantis after his stunts.
What jobs can an illegal immigrant fill without occupational licenses or the required degree's to fill those jobs? You seem to imply illegal immigrants can fill America's labor shortage yet make no effort to connect the training or education of illegal immigrants to the American labor shortage.
"unless Somin just wants unregulated immigration."
Bingo.
Ah, I wouldn't worry so much about that, the red states are all about coming up with ways to restrict movement across state borders. All you need is a privately-enforced bounty system. Are you aware of someone moving into your neighborhood who looks like they don't have a valid state visa? Report them! Get $10k for your trouble. State comes and picks them up on a bullshit charge - like maybe a taillight on their car is out or something - and then sends them to the DHS, which is more than happy (even under Biden) to send people out of the country with minimal process.
For a lawyer that likes to talk about immigration so much, Somin completely blanked on the fact that the "migrant crisis" is mostly dealing with asylum seekers.
"For a lawyer that likes to talk about immigration so much, Somin completely blanked on the fact that the “migrant crisis” is mostly dealing with asylum seekers."
Have to point out if an illegal alien crosses the border and says they are an asylum seeker they get to stay while if they don't claim they are seeking asylum they get kicked out.
Yeah, I think he's well aware that illegal immigrants are coached to say they're refugees seeking asylum if they happen to get caught.
How would this work? Texas can issue visas--or not? If Texas chooses not to issue visas, could it deport noncitizens who didn't have them? That might be interesting.
Or is the idea that any state can issue an unlimited number of visas to live, work, and vote anywhere in the entire country? An unlimited right to say yes, but no right to say no?
Given that states don't have general authority to restrict movement across their own borders, Somin's proposal would unsurprisingly imply an unlimited right to say yes, and no right to say no.
I suspect if this were implemented, a state could make a tidy sum issuing "transit visas".
Seriously? Are we going to have border checkpoints at each state border? One of the big reasons the EU was created was to avoid that nightmare.
Put your passports away, you have entered the Somin Zone.
Since Canada currently uses this system, perhaps you should do a little research into how things work up there. Have you ever driven from one province to another? Were there any border checkpoints?
Is it a stunt to ask cities that are inviting them to come to share some of the cost?
Asking people to be at least partially responsible for the consequences of policies they profess??? These are the kind of radical ideologies that are destroying this country. Ask any progressive.
I'm not a progressive, but I live in a progressive city with a sanctuary policy and I live in a neighborhood that is popular with immigrants.
Here's the bottom line: undocumented immigrants create a ideal target for crime because they can be deported if they report being a victim. So you can steal from them, extort them, and enslave them with impunity as long as the local law enforcement will assist in deporting them. This is bad for the local community as a whole. Meanwhile, undocumented immigrants pay sales and property taxes just by going about their daily lives. They contribute to the economy. They often have citizen children. And, they aren't eligible for most of the social safety net programs so they don't consume the same amount of tax dollars as poor, American-born families do. In other words, they are a net positive.
Meanwhile, the Feds, whose job it is to locate and deport undocumented immigrants, are sucking vast amounts of tax monies out of local communities by shifting Federal enforcement costs onto local jurisdictions. Add that to the economic issues that come with increased crime on immigrants who fear deportation, and you've got an expensive "solution" to a minor problem.
The sanctuary policies are all about mitigating the consequences of illegal immigration. Progressives are making the practical choice.
"So you can steal from them, extort them, and enslave them with impunity as long as the local law enforcement will assist in deporting them."
That is, in fact, the reason for allowing them here: To provide a large pool of safely abused labor. And in some cases to distort apportionment by providing a lot of warm bodies that can't legally vote.
Of course the people who want to abuse and exploit them get a lot of help from people who demonise and hate them and treat them as cunning and scheming or less than human.
To provide a large pool of safely abused labor
*exactly*. Which is why DeSantis treating them like political weapons and not people is so fucked up!
Our system is inhumane in badly in need of reform. But the GOP is blocking the reform, largely because they want the system to become more inhumane.
Our system is so inhumane that people are lining up to get here? 5 million since Biden. If only these inhumanely treated illegal aliens could warn folks back home...
Because there is lots of crap situations in the world.
That does not give us license to be so hateful to the victims.
Why not focus on the businesses that exploit them?
I’ve said before – my family moved to Texas when I was in high school. Nixon was still president. So I’ve been interacting with – what the hell can you call them any more? Peopke who aren’t supposed to be here for all of my adult life. They don’t bother me. I mostly admire them because they work their asses off at menial dirty physical jobs. And, honestly, if I were in their position I’d have done the same damn thing they did. As would all the “OMG ILLEGALS” types.
Problem is we can’t let them come here in an unlimited amount. Nobody has the resources for that. Hell, NYC is bitching about getting a couple hundred. The feds can’t do it either – Trump and Biden have us up to our eyebrows in debt and with our inflation problem any major new spending is going to exacerbate that.
And these “migrants” aren’t really asylum seekers. It’s the obvious way to game the system. Most of them would never qualify. They’re economic refugees, like they’ve always been. Seems like Venezuela is over represented right now given the communist ruination of the country. Note that a lot of the sanctuary types were also “Viva Chavez!” back when he took over. Those people contributed to this mess mightily and should help bear the load, instead of putting it all on Del Rio and Eagle Pass.
They don't come here in unlimited amounts.
You should consider that making a blanket judgement that migrants are all 'obviously' gaming the system is not how you should treat individuals.
Obviously you didn’t see the word “most”. That’s the only way to explain your response. And yes, most of them are gaming the system. Understandable, but recognize it for what it is.
Please tell us what is currently limiting how many are crossing the border. Anybody that wants to us walking right in.
What are you talking about? We still have border control guards. They wouldn’t be taking the difficult desert crossing and dying otherwise, they wouldn’t be being caught at the border and deported otherwise.
The right keeps saying it, that doesn’t mean it’s true,
Nobody asked. Nobody even rang ahead. That's how you know it's unserious and designed solely to fuel comments like yours, and nothing else.
Another rousing meeting of Libertarians For Authoritarian, Bigoted, And Cruel Immigration Policies And Practices, convened -- as usual -- at a white, male, faux libertarian, bigot-friendly, right-wing forum.
LABCIPP
Ilya, have you considered the possibility that there may exist other topics of discussion besides open borders?
Too much libertarian content for you at this blog, Goju?
"Depending on how such a program is structured, immigrants who receive them might—at least initially—be confined to a particular state"
Enforcement should be a cinch!
I have a better idea. Whenever asylum seekers arrive in Florida, transfer them immediately to Puerto Rico, to await processing of their asylum claims there. To compensate both Florida and Puerto Rico, recruit an equal number of Puerto Ricans to move to Florida. That way, Florida suffers no asylum-seeker immigration, no illegal immigration, and no diminution of its population. I should add that recent antics from DeSantis played no part to motivate my proposal. /s
Make them Puerto Rican drag queens and you've got yourself a winning solution!
I'm told that Florida is a fascist shithole.
Ergo, nobody should want to stay there even for an instant. Not Puerto Ricans, not asylum-seekers. DeSantis is doing would-be asylees a favor by sending them to better states.
DeSantis should highlight that aspect more - 'We're getting these vulnerable people out of our fascist shithole and into places that aren't fascist shitholes!'
*gets California visa*
*immediately drives to Arizona*
This might be a good idea. Let's do this right after we secure the borders and deport all illegal aliens.
How do you propose to "secure" our airports from people who fly in on valid visitor visas and never leave?
Legit question: Do we know the percentage of all those in the country illegally visa overstays are?
About half, IIRC.
Some combination of overstay insurance and GPS ankle monitors?
Oh right.
That'll attract foreign visitors.
"Welcome to the USA. Now put on this ankle bracelet."
Are you that xenophobic?
I agree; ankle bracelets is a terrible idea.
The US should learn from the experience of others, and simply ask the visitor to install a simple helpful guide app, like China does.
The ankle bracelet is only for people who can't get the overstay insurance. You'd rather I said, get the insurance or stay out?
I'm confused. In this post despite a few lines acknowledging the value of giving immigrants the chance to go to states that claim to want them Ilya seems to mostly bash foot voting and red states simply facilitating such immigration to such states and give blue states a pass who in reality quickly deported such needy migrants out of their vicinity.
He didn't just reveal himself to be a raging hypocrite who undermined his entire philosophy did he?
Some conservatives claim the negative reaction of destination states to Republicans' busing of migrants proves that sanctuary jurisdictions are hypocritical, and don't really want immigrants to come. But the very fact that they embraced sanctuary policies is strong evidence to the contrary.
This is Orwellian nonsense. When you literally declare yourself a "sanctuary" for illegal immigrants in an official written proclamation, yet the moment all of 50 illegal immigrants show up in your tony, progressive enclave, you immediately call in the military to remove them, you do not grasp the concept of "sanctuary". You demonstrate that your words are empty virtue-signaling. The residents cheered as the immigrants departed on buses. You would be hard-pressed to find a clearer example of hypocrisy, and that is the impression most Americans had.
Moreover, most of the blue-state outrage over the busing is not about the presence of the migrants themselves (whom charities and local residents mobilized to help) – but over the use of migrants as political pawns and the ways in which some were deceived about where they were going, and enticed with false promises of work permits.
This conclusion is based on nothing besides Somin's view that progressives have pure motives, but conservatives have nefarious motives, a worldview typical of those who live in his bubble. He unquestioningly accepts an allegation as true, while ignoring the only proven deception in the case, Martha's Vineyard's promise of sanctuary.
Yup, this perhaps one of if not the most embarrassing and nonsensical of Ilya's posts to date. And thats up against some serious competition.
you immediately call in the military to remove them,
Fucking load of shit. The National Guard moved them to a place where they could be housed.
The cheering was support for the migrants, asshole.
wow you can read minds.
I can read minds at least as well as F.D.Wolf can.
I mean, that's what the National Guard holds itself out as doing, and then did.
So yeah, this yelling that the liberals secretly hate migrants doesn't comport with reality of what happened.
Won't stop the right from declaring victory. But this didn't turn out like y'all hoped.
LOL. The internet generation is so angry.
Don't worry about the feelings of those wealthy, white progressives. I can assure you that they are incapable of feeling shame. Comically, they actually feel they should be praised for having to tolerate a little diversity for 48 hours.
If Hispanics want to be welcome in Martha's Vineyard or any other wealthy progressive enclave, they better be carrying a mop or some hedge clippers. Otherwise, it's, "¡Adiós, amigos!
It was the off season, those wealthy white progressives were elsewhere, your narritivist twit.
The island residents giving interviews and in those pictures were not residents of the island?
Sure, the richest that only visit their mansions in the summer might have left, but the remaining 2/3 of the island - the permanent residents - are still rich-and-white. 95th percentile median income, 90% white certainly fits that description. But perhaps the Census was lying, right?
And again, since you often can't read: This is only the permanent, year-round, residents. Not the visitors, or the summer home owners.
Summertime is off season for northern climes?
Unless they were all camping in Newfoundland.
No empty hotel rooms on MV? During the off-season? Sure, buddy...
No jobs. You don’t need to buy these desperate and obvious lies, or maybe you do.
" a worldview typical of those who live in his bubble "
His bubble involves the Federalist Society; a white, male, bigot-friendly right-wing blog; Cato Institute; and the ASSOL (Antonin Scalia School of Law). He has indicated he is an originalist; he testified for the Republicans at the Sotomayor confirmation hearing.
Other than that, great comment, wingnut!
Lol. No.
The problem is that the President refuses to faithfully execute the laws, betraying his oath of office. We don’t need dumb, complex workarounds that would require several constitutional changes to deal with that.
We need an honest government with executive and legislative branches working within the laws according to the constitution, to try to serve the people of the country. Instead they break the law, work around the constitution, and ignore the needs of the people. Or intentionally make our lives worse to punish us for sins against the Earth.
It’s a lot bigger problem than anything to do with migrants. A complex new state visa scheme isn’t going to happen.
Somin seems to have parted ways with reality and went off to see the wizard quite a while ago. There’s no place like home Ilya! You can’t deal with real world problems in fantasy land.
intentionally make our lives worse to punish us for sins against the Earth.
Seriously, what happened in your past to make you such a fictional resentment addict.
Fuck off. You make our lives worse, we notice. You send FBI SWAT teams to raid cooperative people who are only charged with misdemeanors, we notice. You stoke hatred until it leads to the murder of an 18 year old, and then lie about it, we notice. You destroy countless lives and disrupt countless others with useless, years-long Covid policies, we notice. You didn’t think we’d notice?
Losing the culture war to your betters has made you cranky and disaffected, Ben.
Your only solace will be delivered by replacement.
Until then, you can rant and rail, whimper and whine as much as you like . . . but you will continue to comply with the preferences of better Americans.
You're on notice, clinger.
“Forcing me to share the load for something I advocated for” is “using migrants as political pawns”. Lol
I’d say that posturing about being a sanctuary to virtue signal with no intent to take in migrants is using them as political pawns.
Really, bevis, you think this was cool and good?
Martha's Vineyard isn't a sanctuary city. It's not a city. Moving migrants to where there are jobs is win-win. And the state WAS willing to take them in. Happily.
Your narrative is wrong. You crave liberal hypocricy, and there is plenty of it, but not in this case.
This was an awful stunt, and I cannot believe you are OK with what it tried to do, and how it treated these people.
I said on an earlier post that what DeSantis did was bullshit. Florida isn’t being overwhelmed, he had to grab people from Texas to use, and Martha’s Vineyard never proclaimed themselves a sanctuary. That was a stunt with no real point that hurts the effort of the border governors to make a legit point.
NYC is showing hypocrisy. As is DC. I don’t give a shit about its political flavor.
You specialize at putting thoughts in my head that were never actually there. How about just reading what I say and only what I said and leaving me out of your political preconception?
Hard to imagine, but this is the most non-sensical article this author has ever published on reason.com. From one non sequiter to the next, this is just an amazing word salad.
Obviously, we need to import thousands of Law Professors to increase diversity. Then import News Reporters etc... I would welcome Weather Girls being granted 'work' visas from South America and Mexico.
I can tell you from experience that if, for example, you are in Singapore on a work visa, and you lose your job for some reason, you will be met by police officers, likely within hours, who will escort you to the airport and see you onto a plane leaving the country. If you are in the United States on a work visa, and you lose your job, nothing will happen, and you can pretty much stay forever.
Would Professor Somin accept the proposition that aliens who enter under such a program would not have the right to enter another state unless naturalized?
Would he accept the idea that the 14th Amendment right to travel does not apply to such aliens? Perhaps they might waive this tight as a condition of wntty under a state sponsorship program.
If he doesn’t accept both propositions, and I rather doubt he would, then the program he outlines doesn’t really make any sense. If state sponsororship or an alien means sponsorship for entry anywhere in the United States - and the ability to travel to any other state after having entered the sponsoring state initially effectively means that - then the states that don’t want them don’t get anything out if it. Why would they agree to such a program if the back door is left wide open?
An acceptable program might be constitutional. I agree the Importation and Migration Clause gives states primary power over immigration with Congress having merely the option to preempt them, not a requirement. So I’d tend to agree could pass legislation devolving to states whetherr to admit immigrants or not.
I think the tricky thing is limiting immigrants to states that want them, which I think would be central to obtaining agreement. Permanent residents at least normally have a full set of constitutional rights. Perhaps a waiver of a right to travel as a condition of entry would be constitutional.
I have generally been favorable to live-and-let-live compromises that, while not conforming to ideals of how things should be, nonetheless let people get key aspects of what they want. This might be such a compromise.
I would note that a compromise deal whereby immigrants are only allowed to live legally in a select set of states that want them may be less than ideal, and it may be of questionable constitutionality. But it would nonetheless leave nearly all would-be immigrants much better off than not being allowed to live legally anywhere in the country.
Would point out an analogy to a variety of issues old and new - alcohol, stores open on Sundays, gambling, porn, prostitution, marijuana. I suuspect some states will do it for abortion.
States that have legalized these things have generally allowed a sort of NIMBY veto, with a patchwork of laws that generally make it relatively easy for localities that don’t want it to keep it out. In some cases, like alcohol and sunday shopping, nearly everybody but a few holdout localities allows it, but the holdouts are permitted to remain. In others, the localities that allow it are more limited. Marjuana, which is new to being in this category, nonetheless seems to be following this rather well-trod pattern, legal but only in localities that want it. In a couple of cases, like porn and gambling, the Internet and federal law have more or less taken things out of states and localities’ hands and overridden the previous pattern of local compromise, but the pattern is still discernable.
I realize this sort of compromise may make both libertarians and social conservatives go bonkers. The very definition of a compromise means that it never perfectly embodies anybody’s ideal. But it tends to keep the peace. People who want it get it. People who don’t want it keep it out. People who don’t like the majority’s decision can vote with their feet. And people who want it but don’t want to admit that they want it can simply go to the next town, get it, and then quietly drive back to their pristine homes.
The difference between migrant and refugee is probably lost on the general public.
Sure, a lot of them are probably mistaken on that score, and often due to being misled.
But they still ARE being coached to say they're claiming asylum if they get caught.
It's been a long time since anyone from Latin America can make a case for political or religious persecution (Cuba being a notable exception). Considering economics, crime, or government corruption are not valid reasons to claim asylum status it's pretty obvious virtually everyone arriving have bogus claims.
Sure, but unless they somehow arrive here without passing through a third country, they're not valid refugees here; You're a refugee in the first safe country you reach, after that you're just a migrant.
You may have a point in some countries on the indigenous front, but even that has been changing in recent times in many countries as power shifts. I'm not a fan of the policies of places like Bolivia or Ecuador right now, but you can't really say they are indigenous unfriendly.
Ultimately I think the real solution to stem the tide is to help to bring a greater level of prosperity south of the border, and create an incentive to not leave in the first place. Perhaps tax credits to US companies to move production from China to Latin America for products that aren't economically feasible to manufacture domestically. It seems like that would be a win-win for all involved.
It helps their development, it lessens some of our dependence on an enemy nation, it shortens logistics and transportation lines, it helps to mitigate the border crisis.
In principal I never had a problem with Trump's America First policy, I just always thought it should have been expanded to "Americas First", a sort of hemispherical solidarity, so to speak.
What does it matter if the Republicans are accomplishing what he claims to want? It would be as if he spent the majority of the time he talked about blue states speculating how all they want out of it is more votes.
Then you and Ilya should be doubly criticizing the Dems and not giving them a pass. You could just as easily speculate they have bad intentions. Plus they just proved how hypocritical they are. And they are the ones who claimed they welcome illegals.
Ironically what you said about standard of living was exactly the case 30 years ago in China, and look at what our money has done there.
All it would really take initially would be to bridge the Darien Gap through Panama and the very northern tip of Colombia at least with rail to create a continuous link from the top of Alaska to the southern tip of South America. What do you think that would do for commerce and the economies of Central and South America?
Don't you think the vast majority of people heading here would have much rather remained at home near their families, friends, communities, etc.?
The best way to keep people from coming here is to give them a reason to not leave in the first place. (and yes, part of me wouldn't mind a little vicarious pleasure in putting the screws to China)
Lastly I'll add after all the things we did to Latin America throughout the 19th and 20th Centuries it's not hard to make the case we owe them one. Why not do it by making us all better off?
They're just disaffected, antisocial, desperate, delusional, bigoted losers. They are flailing at everything and anything as modern American society continues to reject them and pass them by.
None of that, of course, is a problem replacement won't solve.
Things got worse in 2019 than they were under Obama…Congress needs to take action because the president can’t solve this issue.
Things got better when Trump took office, and then got worse when potential illegal immigrants figured out that Congress didn't mean to LET the President solve the problem, that they actively wanted the problem.
Today we've got a President and Congress on the same page: They both want an absolute flood of illegal immigration, and they're getting it.