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Objective vs. Subjective Inquiry in Restraining Order Based on Divorcing Spouse's Allegedly Threatening Speech
Clearly hostile, but was it threatening?
K.D. v D.D., officially released today by the Appellate Court of Connecticut, in an opinion by Judge Douglas Lavine, joined by Chief Judge William Bright and then-Judge Joan Alexander, involved a restraining order obtained by a divorcing wife against her husband:
[The plaintiff wife] testified that on the evening of June 24, 2021, she went to a restaurant with a group of others, including friends of the defendant. The plaintiff "felt [the defendant] behind [her] shoulder," and noticed that "the hairs on the back of [her] neck stood up." In her testimony, the plaintiff described her encounter with the defendant at the restaurant as follows: "I saw him approaching the hostess stand very physically tense. He stared at me with his furrowed brow twitching and locked eye contact for, what, I mean, twenty-five seconds and I was frozen. He seemed very agitated in his physical movements."
She further testified that during the incident the defendant's shoulders were "very high" and that he was "leaning in aggressively with his hands clenched and tight and it seemed like he was breathing very heavy." She explained that the defendant then moved away from the hostess desk "in a wide circle behind [her] slowly." She stated that she was "in shock." The defendant testified that he went to the restaurant in response to an invitation from a friend, but when the plaintiff arrived he became "very uncomfortable" and did not "feel safe" and, therefore, walked from the hostess stand area to the lobby where he waited for an Uber….
The plaintiff testified that, after the defendant left the restaurant, he communicated with her electronically and she detailed that while she was still at the restaurant, she received a text message from the defendant at 8:33 p.m., stating: "Enjoy your date!" She further testified that the defendant sent her a series of emails on the night of June 25 and in the early morning of June 26, 2021.
The first email stated: "You have 'fucked' all these 'dinner guests' while making me watch and abusing me. I will show you. Is that (unsafe) for those you have violated? Let me know when I should divulge your penchant for underage people." In a subsequent email, the defendant stated, "by underage, I meant legally permissible but young." In another email, the defendant explained that it was "unexpected" that the plaintiff would be at the restaurant and that, "upon seeing you, I left immediately. I hope to never accidentally run into you again." The final email in exhibit 1 concerned childcare issues.
In an oral ruling issued at the conclusion of the July 6, 2021 hearing, the court granted the plaintiff's application for a civil restraining order. The court stated that the plaintiff's testimony "indicated a tone of hostility which the plaintiff felt frightened her. The defendant, the husband, says no hostility, he left and took an Uber. He did indicate he left because he did not feel comfortable to be in the same space as she was. He did not let it end there, however, as he sent the messages in exhibit 1. The wife, the applicant, testified at the restaurant that he stared at her, made eye contact for twenty-five seconds, leaned in aggressively making eye contact, and furrowing his brow, and he was breathing heavily and he was fussing as he walked behind her.
"The court finds that the plaintiff['s] exhibit 1, substantiates the conditions at the restaurant. If all he wanted to do was leave, he could have done so, but he extended the evening with the [plaintiff] in exhibit 1. In exhibit 1 it says, [enjoy] your date and the use of the F word and the reference to others involved leads this court to the conclusion that the testimony of the wife, the applicant, is more credible. The court finds the conduct of the [defendant] creates a pattern of threatening." …
The Appellate Court concluded, though, that the trial court wrongly "viewed the evidence through the lens of the plaintiff's subjective reaction to the defendant's conduct, namely, her resulting fear, and stated that the plaintiff's testimony 'indicated a tone of hostility which the plaintiff felt frightened her.'" Instead, "[a]lthough the reaction of an applicant can help provide context," the court should have looked at whether "it is objectively reasonable to conclude, based on context, that the defendant had subjected the alleged victim to a pattern of threatening"; the appellate court therefore ordered the trial court to vacate the restraining order.
Congratulations to Reuben S. Midler, who successfully represented the defendant.
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25 seconds? Doubtful. My own experience is that unless I am actually using a watch, or counting "Mississippi One" etc, time is really easy to misjudge, both over and under.
I wondered about that. It makes me wonder whether the plaintiff had been briefed on what to say in order to get the RO, and had been told that the more specific you are, the less it sounds like a lie - and she then went too specific!
Irish teacher suspended and imprisoned for refusing to use drlusional pronoun.
All woke is case. The remedy? Kick the ass of that woke judege. Just beat his ass.
The lawyer profession is 1000 times more toxic thsn organized crime. Thete is no legal recourse to their Mafia. Only self help remains to save Ireland and the USA.
Before the lawyer denier gets verklempt from the phrase, just beat his ass, it os from formal logic. That is supreme over all rules.
https://nypost.com/2022/09/06/teacher-enoch-burke-jailed-over-trans-pronouns-flap/
We are sick of you scumbag lawyers. We should get rid of you.
It seems like this sentence is the crux of the legal issue:
"The court stated that the plaintiff's testimony 'indicated a tone of hostility which the plaintiff felt frightened her. '"
Just because she was frightened, does not necessarily mean her fright was reasonable.
If the trial court had said "As a consequence of Defendant's tone, actions and subsequent communications, Plaintiff [b]reasonably[/b] felt frightened..." would the original result have stood up? I would think so.
Are black people threatening because white people find them dark?
Are left-handed people threatening because right-handed people find them sinister?
We have a huge problem with people feeling threatened based on subjective impressions and feeling entitled to shoot.
I highly doubt that any U.S. jurisdiction would let you off the hook for shooting someone just because of your subjective impressions. In other words, this "huge problem" only exists in your head.
I assume ReaderY considers the problem to be the shooting, not the possibility of the shooter avoiding legal consequences.
"In fear of my life" is a subjective impression, I think.
In the self-defense context it is generally both.
An actual subjective fear for one's life that is found to be objectively unreasonable only reduces the offense from murder to manslaughter. In order for it to exonerate you completely, the subjective belief must also be objectively reasonable.
Have you heard of police officers?
" I highly doubt that any U.S. jurisdiction would let you off the hook for shooting someone just because of your subjective impressions. "
Are you a lawyer?
Have you ever resided in the United States?
It's called "imperfect self-defense" when you kill or injure a person whom you sincerely felt threatened by, when a reasonable person would not. Some, but not all, states allow this as a mitigation defense: It won't get you off the hook but it can significantly reduce the punishment.
I am triggered by lawyers and judges. I find them the font of all evil. I would like to get a restraining order at the national level.
Based on the occasional reported decision I gather that "I'm afraid of him" is enough to get a restraining order in many courts.
Not legal advice, but just don't text/call your ex in frustration.
That will always be a no-win situation.
Of course, you Dems support the destruction of the American family and of our way of life.
Not to mention contaminating our precious bodily fluids.
This blog's selection of issues to which it chooses to direct attention is as strange as it is partisan.
I have never known what to make of Jeff Lynne.
His sole "crime" is being a man in public. He did not confront her, stayed far away, and left voluntarily once he saw her. Sure maybe he should have held with tongue and a wiser man probably would not have lashed out later, but he is not required to do so either. As the court noted, nothing here rising to any type of "objective" level, not even close. In fact, he did exactly what he would have probably been advised to do by a lawyer and what would have been expected of him up until the goal posts were moved because "woman offended."
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