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"The Unresolved Threshold Issues in the Emoluments Clauses Litigation" - Now Published in the Georgetown JLPP
"The President Has Three Bodies and There Is No Cause of Action for Ultra Vires Conduct"
The Georgetown Journal of Law & Public Policy has published the new article I co-authored with Seth Barrett Tillman: "The Unresolved Threshold Issues in the Emoluments Clauses Litigation: The President Has Three Bodies and There Is No Cause of Action for Ultra Vires Conduct."
The federal courts never fully settled the nature of suits brought against the President based on the Foreign Emoluments Clause. Moreover, the federal courts still have not fully settled whether a cause of action exists to challenge ultra vires conduct--and no, it is not enough to just say "equity!" Our piece should have relevance for future litigation against presidents.
Here is the abstract:
Shortly after President Trump's January 2017 inauguration, he was sued for violating the Foreign and Domestic Emoluments Clauses. The plaintiffs alleged that Trump's acceptance of profits from foreign and U.S. state governments violated these once-obscure provisions of the Constitution. We filed amicus briefs in these cases, and made two arguments that had implications for separation of powers jurisprudence.
First, the Plaintiffs erred by suing President Trump in his "official capacity." Under settled case law, a government officer violates the Constitution in his official capacity if—and only if—a government policy or custom must have played a part in the violation of federal law. Still, the Plaintiffs never alleged that President Trump acted pursuant to any government policy or custom. Nor did the Plaintiffs allege that Trump acted "under the color of law"—a precondition for pleading an individual-capacity claim. Rather, the case concerned alleged conduct that President Trump took personally. With respect to the Emoluments Clauses, the President has three bodies and can be sued in three distinct fashions: [1] an official-capacity claim involves a government policy or custom; [2] an individual-capacity claim involves action taken by a government officer under the color or law; and [3] a personal claim involves private conduct, absent state action.
We identified a second jurisdictional problem. The Plaintiffs argued that the federal courts had equitable jurisdiction to halt ultra vires action by a government officer. To support this argument, the Plaintiffs contended that federal district courts could issue an injunction—an equitable remedy—against the President. This argument conflated equitable jurisdiction and equitable relief. A plaintiff cannot establish equitable jurisdiction merely by seeking equitable relief. Rather, the plaintiffs must invoke a traditional equitable cause of action that was judicially recognized by 1789, or a cause of action that was created by Congress or the courts. The Supreme Court has not recognized a free-floating equitable cause of action to challenge ultra vires conduct by government officers.
Ultimately, the Supreme Court did not settle these issues, or any others presented by the Emoluments Clauses litigation. After President Biden's inauguration, the Supreme Court vacated the lower-court judgments that ran against the President, and ordered the courts of appeals to dismiss the cases as moot.
As the Emoluments Clauses litigation fades in the rear-view mirror, this Article offers a retrospective of these two unresolved threshold issues. Our article also provides some guidance on how to litigate future allegations that the President personally violated the Constitution.
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Of course, the biggest issue is that business profits aren't "emoluments" in the first place. The emolument clause prohibits supplementing an office's compensation, essentially, on the principle that no man can have two masters, and if you're drawing a paycheck for your office from somebody besides the government you may end up acting for that somebody, not the government.
But the clause was never applied to outside income earned in normal commerce; A number of our early Presidents were wealthy businessmen, and they didn't cease engaging in business just because they held office.
It was rationalized that Trump's business profits were "emoluments" in order to escape the need to demonstrate that the profits were a result of people paying more than ordinary market rates, which might have made the income bribes, not emoluments.
Trump supplied hotel rooms in exchange for money. The hotel lost money.
The more important question which the scumbag, Deep Swamp judge failed to address, is: Democrat lawfare to harass a political opponent. This traitor judge should have assessed all legal costs to the personal assets of the plaintiffs. He failed to report the lawyers to the Disciplinary Counsel for filing a claim devoid of merit. He violated his own judicial duty to report misconduct, and should be removed from the bench. Of course, the lawyer profession colludes in a total cover up of its massive misconduct and violations of its own Rules of Conduct.
People are getting really angry at the Swamp and this scumbag, worthless lawyer profession. It is 1000 times more toxic than organized crime, and it must be crushed to save our nation.
Using the phrase "ultra vires" makes the article garbage. Latin is only used by the Catholic Church. Any in a legal utterance with Latin violates the Establishment Clause and makes the utterer look like a real, pompous jerk. Latin should void the utterance, especially if by a government official. How, about using the phrase, "Not my job, man?"
Why is there a total cover up of lawyer misconduct and violations of the Rules of Conduct? Sanctions would deter the filing of frivolous claims. That would cut the income of the plaintiff bar, of the defense bar, and of the judging racket.
"Latin is only used by the Catholic Church"
Nope. It is commonly used in English law. England has an established church. It is not the Catholic church.
Also, many Latin phrases are used by educated Englishmen such as myself. And I'm Jewish.
In the US, a secular nation, all Latin in a legal utterance promotes the Catholic Church as an authority. That is illegal. Any Latin should void the entire utterance. Stop being a self hating Jew. Remember the Inquisition. The American lawyer is running the Inquisition 2.0 with its plea deals.
The first Inquisition ended when French patriots beheaded 10000 church officials, in their Revolution. That is an excellent remedy for the 2.0 version.
Assertion is not evidence.
Defend your claim that Latin magically promotes Catholic authority.
it's as absurd as claiming the use of Latin must be Fascist because Fascists claimed to be the inheritance of Rome.
Or that Latin usage is anti-democratic because it glorifies the Roman Empire.
(i kid - not that my words are jokes, but you're such a lunatic obsessive idiot that I have zero expectation you CAN provide an argument that isn't hilariously batshit pure assertion.)
Why would anyone get as as angry as you are, and filled with so much hate? The answer is simple, the rent seeking is being threatened, the economic interest in the current kleptocracy of the lawyer. People that angry, that needful of the rent become deniers. Deniers do not argue in good faith.
Let's keep it simple. Here is the paragraph from the catechism on the elements of mortal sin. The word element in the law is unlawful. But look at this content.
1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."
Now look up the first degree murder of your state.
In America, a secular nation, you may not use religion texts in the law.
I read the Sharia. I like 90% of it. It is much less procedural and less rent seeking. All Islamic countrie have low crime rates, even the poorest. It is much better than the catechism as a basis of law. Yet, what would you say if I wanted to establish Islamic law in the US, replete with a bunch of formal, antiquated Arabic expression in statutes and in court decisions? If you say, you are OK with that, you need to get the hell out of our country. Now, why is the catechism any more acceptable than the Sharia?
Eugene allowed personalized death threats and links to sex with animals sites on his prior blogs. When you bring up the catechism, you get banned. Why? It threatens the rent. Eugene is a denier. The lawyer with the highest IQ and an expert in the First Amendment is indoctrinating 1000's of intelligent and ethical young people into the unlawful, supernatural doctrines of the American legal profession. He is on the arrest list as are all law school endowed chairs.
Siggie. How much of your income or that of your employer comes from government, a wholly owned subisidiary of the lawyer profession, and a criminal cult enterprise that is worthless and toxic?
"I read the Sharia. I like 90% of it."
No surprise that from our lil' autistic authoritarian arse!
What is it with you and autism, anyway? It seems to be your go-to insult.
I've no more issue with autistic people than I have with color blind people, but if a color blind person is going to be a jerk about my outfit, or worse, want to impose, say, a school uniform of their choice on my kids I'm going to say 'hey, you're color-blind crazy self is full of malarky.' Likewise if an autistic person buys into some nonsense about how all tech companies, lawyers, etc., are committing treason for the Chi-Coms and should be executed I'm going to say 'hey, you're an autistic authoritarian arse.'
And, of course, it's not my go-to insult. Lot's of people here I've never accused of autism even though I think they are wrong (sometimes laughably and awfully). But Behar is fairly clearly let's say somewhere interesting on the spectrum.
Folks, he's a nattering nonsensical nutjob.
Hi, Queenie. I missed you so much. You are the only one stupid enough to reply to me. I was getting lonely.
What is your preferred pronoun, Hon? I want to include it in my letter of support to get a better job.
"You are the only one stupid enough to reply to me."
Consider the ignorant, imbecilic incel who would write that.
Big Trump fan this guy it should be noted!
Hon, in my letter, what should I say you identify as?
As your Lord and Master, much as your mother identifies me.
Actually, you are the only one stupid enough to reply to you, 99% of the time. Virtually all responses to your comments are other comments by you.
Hi, David. Aren't you a lawyer? You need to STFU. I have discussed this matter with Eugene. He assures me Reason is working on adding an Edit function to the Comments. The reason to link my answers is for your convenience. It allows you to come to one place and to follow all my hopes, dreams, ideas, and aspirations for the lawyer profession. I hope you enjoy them.
Lots of crazy people talk to themselves.
I dedicate my Comments to you , Queenie.
These emoluments suits were basically a case of grasping at straws. The precedent of Mount Vernon selling products from the estate to the U.K. during Washington’s presidency was quickly forgotten.
To me, it was telling that none of the Trump complainers could see any problem with Bill and Hillary's "charity" trust fund collecting donations from foreigners while she was Secretary of State, even while most of the donations went to "overhead" and not actual charity.
Can you point me to a source for your “overhead” claim? I was under the impression that the Clinton Foundation spent an unusually LOW percentage of raised funds on administrative overhead, but of course those are just the numbers they report to the IRS.
According to Charity Navigator, the Clinton Foundation isn't actually all THAT bad in terms of overhead, about 24%. Of course, this is based on their reported numbers, without a deep dive into what the program spending actually bought.
I think it can be fairly said that Clinton is more charitable than Biden, however. (He did significantly increase his charitable giving after the embarrassment of that revelation, but to this day his donations are way below average for his income bracket.)
It does appear the donors thought they were buying something besides charitable works, as the donations simply imploded after she lost the 2016 election. Dropped over 80%.
And how do you know that none of them could see any problem with Bill and Hillary's trust fund? I objected to both the Clinton's conduct and Trump's conduct, and I doubt I'm the only person who did. But this is just more what aboutism anyway; you seem to think if you can find someone behaving badly on the other side, that that somehow excuses your guy.
Do you object to the Big Guy's conduct?
It depends on which specific conduct you're referring to, but even if I do, that's just more irrelevant what aboutism.
The point of "whataboutism" is to show the hypocrisy of the complainers AND to show that the complained-of activity is not as exceptional as the complaints make it out to be.
This is a remarkable racketeering operation.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21119396-clinton-foundation-2020-990-and-audit
No, the point of what aboutism is to change the subject. Because even if the complainers are hypocrites, that's irrelevant to the question of whether the person they're complaining about actually did something wrong; even hypocrites are sometimes right on the merits.
What aboutism is an argument about motivation. The motivation is to attack the opponent. When it comes to one's own side, there is no need to enforce the law. Such motivation should always result in sanctions of all costs to the personal assets of the plaintiff. To deter. What aboutism should be used in the law to deter misconduct, such as harassment by litigation.
KryKry. Harassment under color of law violates 4.4 in the Rules of Conduct. What aboutism is quite relevant if the Disciplinary Counsel were not in collusion to cover up all lawyer misconduct. The disciplinary counsels and their employers are all on the arrest list for collusion.
Mayor of Morontown's Meanderings!
Big Trump fan this epsilon!
Queenie, what gender do you identify with, or with what species? I do not want to be seen as a human supremacist.
No one would confuse you with human Davie, more like Australopithecus.
But motive is completely irrelevant to whether someone actually did what they are accused of doing. You don't get a free pass because your accuser is imperfect, and you don't get a free pass because your accuser has impure motives. What aboutism is nothing more than a distraction from the central question of whether the accused actually is guilty of the crime. The only time motive would be relevant is if you're arguing that the witness is lying and has a motive to lie. But if the witness is telling the truth, *why* he's telling the truth is beside the point.
Actually, in a political context we're often forced to choose between two alternatives, and in an A vs B decision where you can't just say, "I'll take neither, thank you!", it's absolutely relevant when A is accused of some offense whether B is just as guilty.
Relevant to what? To whether A committed the offense? Nope.
There is no point of whataboutism, other than to respond to someone else's argument in an irrational way. Whataboutism is just a slang term for the tu quoque fallacy.
I disagree here, sincerity and integrity can be addressed by them. That might tell you much about the argument but can about the one putting it forth.
The emoluments clause would apply to the Secretary of State as much as it applies to the President. How many emoluments clause lawsuits were filed against SS Hillary Clinton?
So if I give an officer money for a favor it's totes different than giving them a contract in which they will make money?
Honey, the hotel lost money. It has to be sold.
Irrelevant, insipid idiot.
The relevant question is, are you giving them money for something people generally pay somebody for? Or are you giving them money for holding the office? It's that latter that's an emolument.
As I said, until recently, Presidents typically had significant business holdings, which they did NOT shut down while President, and nobody thought their ordinary business income was any sort of "emolument" until Trump.
But what if I'm president, and I'm selling a house with a fair market value of 100k, and someone hoping to influence policy pays me a million for it. Is that an emolument?
Because I think that's the argument with Trump. It isn't that hoteliers aren't normally paid when they sell someone a room for the night; it's whether this was a transaction that would have happened on the same terms if he hadn't been president.
No, that's a laundered bribe, which is ALSO impeachable.
The reason they went for "emolument" rather than "laundered bribe" is because getting an emolument at all is unconstitutional, while if you accuse somebody of getting a laundered bribe, you have the tedious requirement of PROVING the payment wasn't an ordinary market transaction.
They tried to get away from having to prove that the terms were unusual.
Iirc at least some of those making emolument charges against Trump thought he was certainly getting business for holding the office. It's just an empirical question from there.
"nobody thought their ordinary business income was any sort of "emolument" until Trump."
That doesn't strike me as telling of much, especially given that Trump and his supporters alike styled him as a very different kind of President *because* he was primarily (only?) a businessperson.
Eh, in recent history we've had a run of wealthy Presidents, but they were typically people who had investment income, not actively managed businesses. Easy to put in a blind trust without loosing your shirt.
But in the longer run of history, Trump wasn't an unusual case. As a fraction of the national GDP, we've had several Presidents who were wealthier, and multiple Presidents who ran real businesses even while being President.
You didn't address my point. I'll repeat it:
"especially given that Trump and his supporters alike styled him as a very different kind of President *because* he was primarily (only?) a businessperson."
Did Trump and supporters not sell him as different because he was primarily (only?) a businessperson or not? You can't complain then when his opponents treat his business dealings as something new and problematic.
Your point is in no way relevant to the question of whether or not Trumps ordinary business dealings are emoluments.
This is a mathematically perfect ending to the issue, since it was about hurting a political opponent. Opponent gone, mission accomolished. Drop everything and shove equipment into boxes in the basement.
Spot on.
" Drop everything and shove equipment into boxes in the basement."
...until the next time.
Couldn’t a plaintiff get around the 3-body problem simply by suing in the alternative, covering whichever capacity the judge eventually determines is the correct one? It would matter for some purposes, like civil rights claims, which only exist if acting in an official capacity or under color of law. But why would it matter for a general equity claim?
Congress could use the off season to provide guidance to the courts.
Another multiple bodies case. My state constitution allows for a voter initiative to be presented to voters as a constitutional amendment if 1/4 of the legislature votes in favor. An amendment was presented to the legislature. Opponents were a majority but not a 3/4 supermajority. Sensing the backing of the body, the president of the Senate (known informally as "the corrupt midget") refused to allow the measure to come up for a vote. This happened more than once. Backers of the measures tried different ways to gain jurisdiction but the courts said no every time. You can't sue a legislator in official capacity for legislative acts, even those that clearly violate the constitution. You can't sue in an individual capacity because an individual has no power to take official action. You can't beat the legislature in court when judges get their jobs through political patronage.
American (and British) legislative procedure is weird...
"As the Emoluments Clauses litigation fades in the rear-view mirror. . . ."
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
Republicans are quite spiteful creatures and have zero problems going (and surpassing), the depths that Dems can and have reached.
If anything, I'd say this issue will become a key point in every election and administration - until the Supremes settle the issue.
The Georgetown Journal of Law & Public Policy has published the new article I co-authored with Seth Barrett Tillman
The Georgetown Law Journal was busy?
GJLPP is a conservative affirmative action academic journal.
Could Hunter and Joe's co-mingled finances lead to an emoluments claim?
Sure. Its going to be payback time in next years' GOP house.
Thanks for confirming my statement above!
Not a very serious one. Again, just doesn't match what the authors of the Constitution meant by an "emolument".
A bribery claim, OTOH? That could be well founded.
"Not a very serious one."
Neither were the ones against Trump.
"serious" has nothing to do with it.
Bribery will be on the table too. don't worry.
Except Trump.
I'd think there would be a difficult question of how much money President Trump actually did receive when a foreign or domestic dignitary stayed in one of his hotels. It's not like the money flowed directly into his pocket. It was most likely paid to a corporation (or some other artificial entity form of ownership) of which Trump was an, or maybe the sole, shareholder. Trying to trace or figure out what Trump as an individual got from those stays would be at best very hard, perhaps entirely speculative.
Unless the room went for more than the going rate for that hotel, you hardly get an emolument just out of the Saudi ambassador deciding to stay in a Trump hotel instead of the Marriott.
The benefit to Trump depends on whether the room would have produced less income without the ambassador trying to curry favor. I don't think it's an emolument, though. Just a conflict of interest, and less of a conflict than the Secret Service renting space or Saudi Arabia sending Kushner a giant wad of money.
"It puts the emoluments on its skin, or else it gets the hose again."
So, the President can be in Washington with his first body, while speaking at the Keokuk, Iowa Kiwanis Club with the second body, and with the third body going to Europe to discuss the war in Ukraine.